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Postby bluefete » November 30th, 2016, 10:23 am

Just WOW!

It makes you wonder what kind of deal the T&T government is going to make with them.

https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/11/25/bad-deal-2/

Bad deal - Former PM warns that Sandals concessions are hurting the economy

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Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur is contending that tax concessions granted to the Caribbean hotel chain Sandals are hurting the island’s finances, already reeling from a decline in revenue from the offshore financial services sector.

Presenting a lecture Wednesday night sponsored by the Sir Arthur Lewis Institute of Social and Economic Studies, Arthur said an already eroding tax base occasioned by changes to the second largest revenue earner, the offshore sector, was made worse by the concessions, not only to Sandals, but to the entire tourism sector, the island’s primary money earner.

“The Government of Barbados . . . has set an extraordinary precedent by extending complete duty and tax free status to Sandals for 40 years, with the intention of making such a status available to other enterprises in our main sector – tourism,” the former Prime Minister said.

Sandals, which began operations here in 2013 at the former Almond Casuarina hotel in Dover, Christ Church, has been granted a 25-year tax holiday that includes a waiver on all import duties, taxes, impost and levies on capital goods such as building materials, as well as food, alcohol and beverages.

The waiver also extends to duties on the importation of motor vehicles and personal and household effects for senior hotel staff and non-Barbadian workers.

At the end of the 25-year tax holiday the rate on concessions will be cut by 50 per cent for an additional 15 years.


Faced with mounting pressure from the accommodation sector for a similar deal, Government eventually announced that the hotel sector would be eligible for similar concessions.

Arthur said the loss of revenue as a result of these concessions had come after Barbados’ main financial trading partner, Canada, had drastically reduced the island’s once lucrative offshore business.

He explained that Barbados had been attractive to Canadian companies because this island was the only Caribbean territory with a tax information exchange agreement with Ottawa.

This advantage ended in 2007, he said, and Canada has since entered similar agreements with other countries and had been extending to them other tax deals that were beneficial to offshore companies.

“In consequence, international business and financial services have migrated from Barbados, leading to a decline in revenues directly generated by the sector from $356 million in 2007 to $97 million in 2013,” Arthur said.

He said Barbados’ other major trading partners had also been making changes to their regulatory regimes that will adversely affect the operations of international business and financial entities based here.

Arthur said the declining offshore revenue combined with the tourism tax giveaways, “signify that the Government of Barbados will continue to experience significant difficulty in raising the revenue to finance the plethora of public services that has been put in place since Independence”.

He said at its peak the international business and financial services sector produced 34 per cent of Government’s revenue, reaching an estimated total of $356 million.

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“ What's Trending: A Sweet Deal ”


The Nation’s Online Editor Sherrylyn Toppin looks at What’s Trending today in Barbados.

Operators of international hotel chain Sandals have been “gifted a sweet deal to establish its brand here”.

According to today’s lead story in the Weekend Nation: “For the next 25 years, the international conglomerate has been exempted from paying all import duties, taxes including VAT, imposts and levies of any nature whatsoever on the importation or local purchase on all capital goods needed for the equipping, operation and promotion of the hotel, as well as on all food and beverages.

And when that tax holiday period is over, Sandals will only be required to pay half of the “applicable rates and taxes prevailing” for the next 15 years”.”

This news was met with outrage by online readers who queried why local hotel operators were not being given the same concessions.

This is what some of them had to say.

Robert Goode: Sweet deal indeed, but for whom? This deal … was a big foot move that will be an albatross around the necks of the taxpayers of Barbados for the next 40 years – long after the dealmakers are all gone.

Michael Goddard: Sweet for Sandals, sour for all other businesses. This is blatant corporate welfare. If the minister really wanted to assist the industry he would have reduced the tax burden on ALL tourism players. Instead, he has picked a favourite and given them an unfair advantage against their competitors.

Orson Arthur: That is a sweet deal. Can that be extended to some of the other hotels that trying to make it?

Carlene De Boss George: I hope this savings is passed on to the guests.

Kathie Daniel Fertur Lux: If they had given REDjet concessions like this, they might still be flying.

Pearl Davy: [I] Just got here from Canada, and I think Barbados is selling itself out. If they can afford to give this deal to Sandals, what’s wrong with giving it to the people of Barbados?

Ross Charles: This is absolutely ridiculous! The country is in serious need of an economic boost and the Government is giving away freebies to multi-billion dollar companies like candy! It’s time for change.


Meanwhile in Antigua:


http://antiguaobserver.com/concessions-tek-back/

Concessions ‘tek back’
June 17, 2016 Kieron Murdoch


The owners of Sandals Grande Resort are crying foul after the government of Antigua & Barbuda has stated its intention to discontinue a long-standing concession of 65 per cent of the Antigua & Barbuda Sales Tax (ABST) from the room rates the hotel collects from its guests.

According to an attorney for Sandals Resorts International (SRI) James Bristol, the agreement under which the Sandals Grande Resort received a 65 per cent concession on ABST was binding and was negotiated in 2009.

He called the action “despicable” and said it puts Antigua & Barbuda “in a bad light internationally as a safe place in which to invest… It is atrocious. As a lawyer and a former attorney general of Grenada I have never seen the like.”

Bristol contends that the government took, “unilateral action to break an agreement upon which Sandals has relied and performed…”

In a June 9 letter to Prime Minister Gaston Browne, Chairman Gordon “Butch” Stewart, decried the change.

The letter read: “The withdrawal of the concession poses significant operational cost increases for Sandals at a difficult time in which investors need to be confident that arrangements made with host territories are trustworthy…”

“We view this decision as quite regrettable. It calls into question the trust and credibility of the Antiguan administration and sets a bad precedence for investors in the region, whereby sacred agreements which are preconditions for development can be broken at will.”

“We consider this a breach of contract inconceivable with far-reaching implications beyond the boundaries of Antigua,” it added.

Contacted, Prime Minister, Gaston Browne said the government has the “right” to renegotiate the “clearly inequitable” agreement, but advised that negotiations over the ABST are ongoing.


PM accuses Stewart of politicising Sandals concessions issue
June 18, 2016 Kieron Murdoch





Prime Minister Gaston Browne has laid the charge of politicization on hotelier Gordon “Butch” Stewart for writing to the United Progressive Party (UPP) regarding the current row over the government’s threat to remove a lucrative Antigua & Barbuda Sales Tax (ABST) concession.

In a letter provided to OBSERVER media, and dated June 17, the prime minister informed Stewart that his decision to involve the UPP “greatly disappoints” him (Browne).

Browne told Stewart that the issue of ceasing the concession “has been made a partisan political issue by you, Sir, by writing to the leader of the opposition political party”.

He added, “By placing the issue in the public domain, it has now become a matter requiring negotiations in public. That, Sir, cannot be in the best interests of the relations between my Government and the Sandals Resort.”

Attorney for Sandals Resorts International (SRI), James Bristol of the Grenada-based law firm Henry Henry & Bristol, wrote to the political leader of the UPP, Senator Harold Lovell, and informed him of the matter.

The letter, dated June 14, stated, “I am instructed by Sandals Resorts International. It is with regret that I inform you that the government of Antigua (& Barbuda) led by the Honourable Gaston Browne has chosen to withdraw certain concessions granted to my client in 2009…”

In his June 17 letter, Browne charged that the move was both “bad faith in negotiations” and “an attempt to damage the integrity of my Government”.

The government’s withdrawal was first communicated to SRI’s attorney, Bristol, via a June 2, 2016 letter from the local firm Marshall & Company.

In response to that letter, Stewart, the chairman of SRI, wrote to Browne on June 9, calling the “decision to… rescind (the) concession agreement with Sandals” a “blatant breach of our agreement”.

In 2009, SRI entered into an agreement with the government to pay only 35 per cent of the ABST collected on room rates – an agreement SRI argues is binding, and the prime minister argues is void.
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Postby Sundar » November 30th, 2016, 11:45 am

Great is the PNM

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Postby Strugglerzinc » November 30th, 2016, 2:35 pm

We will end up owing Sandals money and will have to pay them to stay.

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Postby nos_specialist » November 30th, 2016, 2:50 pm

hadda make a friend in Sandals and import alll my crap thru them...

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 30th, 2016, 3:13 pm

nos_specialist wrote:hadda make a friend in Sandals and import alll my crap thru them...


Or open a manufacturing entity here and you will be eligible for duty exemptions.

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Postby Miktay » November 30th, 2016, 3:28 pm

But isnt this Forin Direct Investment?

Some people say thiz a way to diversify the economy...ent?

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Postby V2NR 3.0 » November 30th, 2016, 3:30 pm

Very interesting read

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Postby pugboy » November 30th, 2016, 3:42 pm

if they dont have to pay duties they will import every single thing they consume
there will be no local suppliers as they claimed they would support
except for stuff like toolum which is not manufactured elsewhere lol

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Postby Gladiator » November 30th, 2016, 5:47 pm

pugboy wrote:if they dont have to pay duties they will import every single thing they consume
there will be no local suppliers as they claimed they would support
except for stuff like toolum which is not manufactured elsewhere lol



Correct is right... these politicians selling the public dog $hit wrap up in gold paper.

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Postby Redman » November 30th, 2016, 7:22 pm

Of course the NET position of the Sandals venture in Barbados isn't discussed.

What is sandals contributing to Bdos coffers?

Sandals visitors impact the non sandals related economy how?

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Postby De Dragon » December 1st, 2016, 12:16 am

Redman wrote:Of course the NET position of the Sandals venture in Barbados isn't discussed.

What is sandals contributing to Bdos coffers?

Sandals visitors impact the non sandals related economy how?

Who cares? Imagine Barbados, who don't seem particularly scrunting wrt to tourism investments, giving this type of concession. Either somebody getting a beautiful piece of grease hand, or Sandals will make a massive impact there. Sadly, in T&T I suspect the former will happen and we will be saddled with this nonsense like how all large corporations seem to leave us.

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Postby bluesclues » December 1st, 2016, 2:21 am

Bad idea barbados.

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Postby Slartibartfast » December 9th, 2016, 4:48 pm

Madness!

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Postby dude2014 » December 9th, 2016, 9:54 pm

Well, brace yourself TnT.
Didnt Kamla gave Oil companies a similar deal on their Investments?
PNM response to this is the UNC did it.

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Postby Redman » December 9th, 2016, 10:05 pm

Yes she did.

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Postby bluefete » December 9th, 2016, 10:59 pm

dude2014 wrote:Well, brace yourself TnT.
Didnt Kamla gave Oil companies a similar deal on their Investments?
PNM response to this is the UNC did it.


How many more dotish jackasses do we need in our politics?

Kamla did it and government oil revenue plunged from $40 billion to $1 billion this year because the oil companies maximised that incentive.

Rowley doing it because Kamla did it? What jackassery.

So Sandals will come here and wine on us. We have to upgrade the Arthur Robinson airport in Tobago to meet Sandals standards.

Low level paying jobs for locals in the hotel.

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Postby eliteauto » December 11th, 2016, 9:30 am

Upgrading the airport and relevant infrastructure is a benefit. I'm sure the desal plant is welcomed

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Postby toyota2nr » December 11th, 2016, 11:13 am

Our government is gonna shaft the country with that deal. Sandals is one of those resorts that is all inclusive. Once guests enter they stay in there until time to leave. The economy of Tobago will not benefit in any way from this deal.

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Postby Redman » December 11th, 2016, 12:05 pm

toyota2nr wrote:Our government is gonna shaft the country with that deal. Sandals is one of those resorts that is all inclusive. Once guests enter they stay in there until time to leave. The economy of Tobago will not benefit in any way from this deal.


so whats your alternative suggestion??

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Postby toyota2nr » December 11th, 2016, 12:17 pm

Redman wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:Our government is gonna shaft the country with that deal. Sandals is one of those resorts that is all inclusive. Once guests enter they stay in there until time to leave. The economy of Tobago will not benefit in any way from this deal.


so whats your alternative suggestion??


Do things the proper way. The only party benefitting in this arrangement is Sandals. Using that tax break Sandals would import everything they need. Nothing would go to the economy of Tobago. The tax break T&T giving Sandals is way too much.

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Postby eliteauto » December 12th, 2016, 6:56 am

details of the tax deal please toyota2nr

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Postby dude2014 » December 12th, 2016, 2:21 pm

Redman wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:Our government is gonna shaft the country with that deal. Sandals is one of those resorts that is all inclusive. Once guests enter they stay in there until time to leave. The economy of Tobago will not benefit in any way from this deal.


so whats your alternative suggestion??


Lawrence Duprey and his company owns the land and he said he has a deal lined up for a 2000 room hotel.
I have more faith in Lawrence Duprey than in the PNM or Sandals.

As for Tobago economy, it is about time they return unused funds to the consolidated funds for redistribution.
The PNM ruining Tobago ..........

Will need to check your facts on the drop in oil revenue. When I check I will say.
The Budget is a good place to start. It certainly not 1 billion.

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Postby Dizzy28 » December 12th, 2016, 2:41 pm

dude2014 wrote:
Redman wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:Our government is gonna shaft the country with that deal. Sandals is one of those resorts that is all inclusive. Once guests enter they stay in there until time to leave. The economy of Tobago will not benefit in any way from this deal.


so whats your alternative suggestion??


Lawrence Duprey and his company owns the land and he said he has a deal lined up for a 2000 room hotel.
I have more faith in Lawrence Duprey than in the PNM or Sandals.

As for Tobago economy, it is about time they return unused funds to the consolidated funds for redistribution.
The PNM ruining Tobago ..........

Will need to check your facts on the drop in oil revenue. When I check I will say.
The Budget is a good place to start. It certainly not 1 billion.


Lawrence Duprey through Angosutura used to own the land.....But does he still own it now or is it that it now belongs to the GORTT based on the Clico bailout and the terms of that bailout?

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Postby dude2014 » December 12th, 2016, 9:46 pm

Cannot say what is the position. However the first time Lawrence came back to Trinidad in 2016 he said it was one of the assets of a company he owns, Ocean Properties or something.

It was in one of the newspaper. He has other companies, such as DALCO. He will find a way to get it back.
Remember the GORTT sold the Methanol Plants. Who bought it?

He is smarter than Culvert Invert. Besides remember the 2/$5 million cheque to PNM.
Just saying .... Conspiracy theory?
WE have to be careful we the Citizen dont get ripped off. Need to think our Tax Holidays Thru.

I cannot be paying VAT on more things and have foreign business leaving our shores with it .........

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Clico Battle for No Man’s Land.

That is what is shaping up on all fronts—from Government to the Clico owners of the property—as the spotlight continues to increase on one of the last pristine pieces of beachfront in the English-speaking Caribbean
It is now a particularly significant chip in T&T’s tourism portfolio following interest by Jamaican “Sandals” chain magnate Gordon “Butch” Stewart.

However, CL Finance majority shareholder Lawrence Duprey, who said yesterday he will use all legal measures to fight for the property—owned by Clico subsidiaries—also said he has been holding talks over the last 18 months with a major global brand name resort developer which also wants No Man’s Land.

And which he said was a bigger name than Sandals.

“We’ll protect our constitutional rights,” Duprey added. “The way things are going, we must guard against undemocratic action, so we’re prepared for court—any court anywhere—to protect what we have to.”

No Man’s Land is part of the Golden Grove estate at Bon Accord Lagoon, Buccoo. The estate, including environmentally important wetlands, comprises between 429.8 and 517 acres of freehold land owned by Clico subsidiaries, Occidental Investments Ltd (OIL) and Oceanic Properties Ltd (OPL).

In an increased T&T tourism thrust, Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley has spearheaded moves for exploration of a possible Tobago Sandals development arguing that a brand name will earn significant benefits for Tobago tourism and increase hotel rooms by 750.

On June 25, Tobago House of Assembly (THA) Tourism Secretary Tracey Davidson Celestine was reported as saying the THA had had four meetings with Sandals founder/chairman Stewart. At the end of June, Government announced an eight-member team led by onetime PNM minister Wendell Mottley to pursue and handle all negotiations for the Sandals project.

In a Trinidad Guardian July 4 article, Stewart revealed a preference for No Man’s Land (NML), adding if it did not work out, he would examine another. But he said he had looked around Tobago and had not found another. Projecting development in three years or so, he had confirmed Rowley approached him to bring the Sandals chain to Tobago in 2015 before Rowley won the general election, and contacted him after winning.

At the PNM’s July 13 Tobago Council executive election, Rowley maintained the call for a Tobago Sandals development, noting the benefits it could bring. A July 14 Business Guardian story revealed the NML area was owned by Clico subsidiaries.

Replying to T&T Guardian queries on NML, on July 16, Finance Minister Colm Imbert said the land at Golden Grove was a “non-issue,” confirming, “The land is owned by Clico.”

Imbert said: “If and when an agreement is reached with Sandals for the construction of a resort at that location, the land will simply be acquired by the Government. This can be done in many ways. It can be sold to the Government and the proceeds of sale netted off against the amount owed by Clico to the Government, or it can simply be purchased.”

Imbert said the situation was not a “big deal” and has nothing to do with Duprey.” He said the project was still at the conceptual stage.

Imbert, who said negotiations are about to begin, said: “If and when agreement is reached by all parties, designs will be finalised and all relevant issues addressed at that time.”

Duprey: I have no ties with Sandals

Subsequently contacted, Duprey made it clear he had no ties with the Sandals proposal, nor is he giving his blessing to acquisition of the estate.

Rather, Duprey said he has been negotiating with a global investor comprising combined US and European interests concerning a proposed US$3.5 billion resort for the Golden Grove estate/NML.

He said the developers involve a “major brand name in the world market” but are not yet in the Caribbean and the brand was “way above Sandals’.”

“The NML is likely the last pristine beachfront in the English-speaking Caribbean and is uniquely high value over other resorts because of the Nylon Pool, hence our developers’ interest in investing such a sizeable sum.

“The group whose name I cannot publicise at this point has developed ventures in environmentally-sensitive areas and it’s one of the reasons we’re talking. In the 1990s, Clico had developed Buccoo Reef using money from the profitable Methanol plant in protecting environmentally important projects. The reef was one of three, but we weren’t able to continue. If we get permission to build, that protection (of Buccoo Reef) can resume. Any developer will have to be extremely careful to protect the reefs as they’re now global watch after being destroyed.”

Duprey said the number of rooms for the proposed resort will depend on Town and Country Planning permission.

He acknowledged a Certificate of Environmental Clearance for the spot had lapsed since 2009 and would have to be renewed and efforts towards that would start soon.

On Tobago environmentalists’ concerns that NML should remain pristine, Duprey said, plans to dialogue with groups and communities and involving them would be done.

No Man’s Land worth $2bn

The Mottley team mandated to pursue negotiations for a Sandals development project has met only once, T&T Guardian confirmed last Friday, and is now “getting together.” Mottley was said to be overseas.

The team does not yet officially know what location will be pursued for Sandals, but expects that information “as soon as it’s finalised.” It was noted Government gets ten per cent on every hotel room fee and room expansion would benefit T&T revenue.

But former Clico executive official Claudius Dacon said, government’s “unilateral” proposed Sandals development for NML “is being conducted without consultation or permission from its rightful owners.”

He said: “It’s been more than seven years since Clico management approached Central Bank and Government, seeking clarification on its strategy for dealing with the domestic implications of the global disaster. But new laws were hastily drafted and enacted enabling the Government to seize control of Clico and CL Financial without the courts’ permission and virtually no accountability.

“Sale of MHTL shares alone at a price of less than 50 per cent of its market value made the Statutory Fund solvent (as was said in 2015). Other assets have increased in value by over a staggering $14 billion (as the Finance Minister said this month). Now the anticipated development of a hotel by Sandals exposes the hidden value of another of Clico’s investments.”

Saying No Man’s Land (NML) is a significant piece of Tobago real estate, he said: “But it belongs to a wholly owned subsidiary of Clico and the value now placed on NML/estate is approaching $2 billion. Such a valuation makes Clico solvent even on the basis of Minister Imbert’s strange assertion in the Senate recently.

“This is because the wholly-owned subsidiary of Clico that holds title to the land is valued in the latest accounts at an unbelievable $18 million...

“Armed with this information as they surely are, the minister and Central Bank governor should move immediately to relinquish Section 44 control of Clico. If the conditions that gave rise to the control have ceased to exist, as they have, then by virtue of the same Central Bank Act, control must be relinquished.

“Continued use of the powers granted under then act might well be unlawful particularly in this case to the continuing sale of assets. What is worse is that many other assets are believed to be similarly undervalued...(but) Clico is solvent. It needs to be taken off the backs of taxpayers...”

Clico owners already turn down WASA bid

Already, Clico subsidiary owners of the estate, Occidental Investments Ltd and Oceanic Properties Ltd, have rejected an offer by the Water and Sewerage Authority (WASA) to purchase some of its lands for $4.6 million for a proposed sewerage system for south-west Tobago, according to June 2016 documents

These state that only 23 per cent of the overall acreage (120 acres) has been approved by the Town and Country Planning Division for development. “The remaining lands are deemed environmentally reserved lands (wet lands).”

WASA had indicated in 2013 it intended to install a wastewater treatment system in south-west Tobago and requested that OIL and OPL transfer to it certain parcels of land.

But Clico commissioned a valuation of the proposed parcels of lands to be transferred to WASA and in April 2016, GA Farrell and Associates valued them at $7 million.

By letter dated June 8, 2016, to Clico’s executive chairman, WASA offered to pay $4,555,855 for the land.

Documents stated: “The Boards of Occidental Investments Limited and Oceanic Properties Limited having considered both the WASA offer and GA Farrell valuation have decided the WASA offer is too low and should be rejected. The Boards also decided a letter be issued to WASA advising of their decision and to indicate that our asking price is $7 million.”

Lambeau Tobago resident Dedan Daniel, who started a petition to preserve NML, has called for the THA to give full disclosure on any Sandals development and host public discussions. His petition has 2,113 signatures of the targeted 2,500. The THA subsequently stated the petition was premature.

THA Chief Secretary Orville London has reportedly said NML will remain a public space. Yesterday, THA Tourism adviser Neil Wilson said Tobago needs a brand name development.

“Since we lost Hilton we’ve lost arrivals.” He said NML was a spit of land and he was uncertain if it could accommodate a hotel, but felt the allure of the area was its name.

Duprey mum on Colman report

Duprey was asked about the hints from government officials about the contents of the Colman report on the Clico/HCU Commission of Enquiry which included “serious allegations of misconduct on the part of a handful of privileged few, who were part of Clico management.”

Duprey said, “We didn’t perform any egregious actions. We had no criminal intent. It was a privately owned company and we ran it as such.”

He declined comment on whether the report should be published or laid in full in Parliament and queries about Government urging the Director of Public Prosecutions to act speedily on the report. Duprey said there had been no reply from Central Bank or Government to his April letters outlining plans to seek to regain control of the Clico companies.

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Clico/CLF shareholders: Deal likely on land for Sandals

As Clico and CL Financial shareholders await budget statements on the future of the company’s assets, they’ve shelved initial scepticism and agreed in principle to Government’s proposed Sandals hotel development on their Golden Grove estate in Tobago.

Carlton Reis, representative of Dalco, the largest CLF shareholder, confirmed this after shareholders of both entities met Finance Minister Colm Imbert recently.

Reis, who said he also represents CLF majority shareholder Lawrence Duprey, said shareholders, including United Shareholders Limited (USL), have agreed on the hotel idea after receiving assurances about the return of several CLF companies.

He said the group will shelve previous concerns about the Tobago project on their estate and work with Government.

“We don’t have a problem with the plan. As businessmen we want to see Tobago developed. This (Sandals) project will benefit Tobago and T&T’s hotel industry, putting us on the map,” he said

Clico has been under Central Bank supervision since the 2009 collapse of the former financial giant. Shareholders says Central Bank law stipulates guiding the company until solvent and “handing it back to shareholders after.” Government estimates the bailout debt is around $23billion.

Imbert had said he would detail future directions for CLF/Clico assets in his Budget speech to be delivered on Friday. In the 2016 fiscal package, Imbert said he intended to bring the matter to an amicable conclusion and outlined certain moves.

In the April mid-year review, he gave further details on certain CLF assets and he further outlined resolution of Clico issues in July.

Clico’s subsidiaries, Occidental Investments Ltd (OIL) and Oceanic Properties Ltd (OPL), own the 600-acre Golden Grove estate, including the sand spit known as No Man’s Land which is at the centre of the Sandals plan. Tobago House of Assembly (THA) chairman Orville London, at last week’s consultation on the Sandals plan, assured that No Man’s Land and Nylon Pool would not be touched.

In May Duprey had said he would fight to keep the estate since he had been speaking with UK-European investors on a proposed $3 billion hotel development.

Reis said yesterday that Duprey, who is based overseas, wasn’t part of the local negotiations but was working with and advising him “on these issues and with the Tobago lands.” “He’s willing to work with it and help contribute towards development of the twin island state. In negotiations sometimes you have to give to get,” he said.

Contacted for comment, Duprey said he wasn’t part of the recent negotiations.

Reis expects the Tobago plan to involve Clico transferring ownership of the land to the THA. This will offset part of its debt to Government. He said the group can also work with Government on the hotel development via its subsidiary Home Construction Limited

The estate was valued at approximately US$35 million three years ago, according to reports.

Reis said while the group supports the plan in principle, representatives are still to discuss the overall position and are awaiting Budget statements on the issue.

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In April, Imbert asked United Shareholders Limited to identify what CLF shareholders wanted and expected. Spokesmen for USL said shareholders were “taken aback” at Imbert’s mid-year review plan for CLF.

They detailed proposals, envisaging CLF would remain with varying percentages and retain control of six companies, including Angostura Holdings Limited, Colfire Limited and Home Construction Limited.

In July the group wrote to Imbert expressing anger at perceived “deception and betrayal” because no information on the size of Clico’s debt and disposing of assets was given before talks on the matter. They began moves toward legal action.

However, when Imbert met them in August, before the shareholders’ agreement expired, they were given the assurance that shareholders would have an opportunity to raise the money to repay their debt and to buy back company assets. Reis said the last Government had not facilitated that.

“But this Government is doing it a little different and is more understanding. For the first time, we feel things are a little more on the right path.”

The shareholders expect to have negotiations with Government on repaying the debt. Reis said nothing was signed and they are still in talks, but the debt may be less now—around $20 billion—“since we repaid some after Methanol Company sale.”He added: “We’re clear the six companies must be obtained by Clico again and we feel positive with the response so far.” Reis said the shareholder’s agreement, which allows Government to have a say in CLF business, wasn’t renewed after the August expiration since they want to know the real size of the debt.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.tt/business/2016 ... nd-sandals

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Postby The_Honourable » January 10th, 2017, 2:30 pm

Afra Raymond discusses Tobago Sandals Resort at the Tobago Benchmark Symposium.

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Afra Raymond video asked alot of very key questions ... I would really like to know how the Trinidad Hilton upgrade cost so much? ... Anyhow hopefully they come up with a model which will see the Trinibago taxpayers see some kind of return on their investment instead of the usual taking it up you know where with no vaseline.

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Postby Dizzy28 » January 11th, 2017, 10:33 am

timothymcdavid wrote:Afra Raymond video asked alot of very key questions ... I would really like to know how the Trinidad Hilton upgrade cost so much? ... Anyhow hopefully they come up with a model which will see the Trinibago taxpayers see some kind of return on their investment instead of the usual taking it up you know where with no vaseline.

I would believe that the Hilton cost plenty to renovate because they choose to keep the hotel operational section by section instead of a complete rebuild. That phasing didn't allow for economies of scale. Also the Hilton stipulated FFE would be more expensive to procure than standard FFE.

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Postby eliteauto » January 11th, 2017, 11:35 am

Hyatt is currently in the last stages of renovation whilst they stayed open as well, Hilton's retrofit was grossly over priced, some of the rooms remain dated, I used the presidential suite in late November and the furniture on the patios was peeling, the mini freezer needed defrosting the jacuzzi in the master bath is oldish and the furniture and tv in the living area was similarly dated, the executive suite is in much better condition and the furniture there is unchanged in the last 3 years where I've used that suite about 6 times , so that makes the PS at least 5 years old or more, even the lobby changes aren't that noteworthy

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