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Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby widdyphuck » July 30th, 2017, 8:05 pm

Exploitation of others makes you rich..What's your take on this..

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Postby 10-01 » July 30th, 2017, 8:20 pm

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby vaiostation » July 30th, 2017, 8:59 pm

That is capitalism. Every nation in the world does this.
But don't worry, if you feel exploited it have plenty of Venezuelans to take your place...
I myself have seen how businesses take advantage of locals as well as foreigners.
Once people know is not them being taken advantage off them ain't care...

I know it have men on here think every trini does drink, lime and fete everyday, but they somehow blind to the exploitation of our own people. A large portion of the society not even making more than $3000 for de month...

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby nos_specialist » July 31st, 2017, 6:36 am

so first you ask, how is working in Petrotrin, then you ask this...

I'm observing your posts.

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Postby Average » July 31st, 2017, 6:56 am

Watch the Juniper Hill Inn episodes (there are two) from Hotel Hell and you will understand.

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Postby zoom rader » July 31st, 2017, 7:31 am

Best you ask the family that was on TV recently who said they are protected by the middle classes

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Postby 10-01 » July 31st, 2017, 8:25 am

nos_specialist wrote:so first you ask, how is working in Petrotrin, then you ask this...

I'm observing your posts.


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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby Dizzy28 » July 31st, 2017, 9:20 am

This depends on what is considered cost. There is finite wealth so someone with more means someone else has less.
However in the transferring of that wealth if there is utility given to the spender via the provision of goods and or services then he has not suffered i.e. the cost was of value.

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Postby zorced » July 31st, 2017, 12:15 pm

wtf wrote:Exploitation of others makes you rich..What's your take on this..


vaiostation wrote:That is capitalism.


Pristine/predatory capitalism.

These kind of systems can allow brilliant minds who have needed ideas to be struggling in addition to public infrastructure, health, security etc. while pristine capitalists who destroy economies have billion dollar showrooms of unusable chattels. The latter should only exist after the former is prioritized.

Governments are also to blame because of poor management of identifiable limited resources such as land and poor regulations of monopolies/fair trade.

You also have to factor what other counter-productive expenditure the money is being channeled to such as illegal drugs and weapons.

Don't get me wrong, capitalism can be a good thing if it allows your wealth to scale proportionately with your contributions to society and move away from the above.

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby timelapse » July 31st, 2017, 12:34 pm

Here's my take..
Lets say that the world is a barrel containing 9 apples and that the are 10 people .Everybody needs to eat a whole apple to be comfortable.

If everybody shared the apples equally, everybody would get some, but not the total amount that is required.This is communism.

One guy decides that he wants 5 apples, and because he is stronger than the rest of them, the remaining 9 people have to fight over 4 apples.This is capitalism.IMO, being rich has to come at the cost of others.

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Postby MaxPower » July 31st, 2017, 12:38 pm

^ how many of those 10 people deserve the apples?

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Postby ruffneck_12 » July 31st, 2017, 12:49 pm

why don't poor people just buy more money

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby Dizzy28 » July 31st, 2017, 1:06 pm

A theoretical question for you all to answer (it will be subjective)

If all the money in Trinidad was equally shared among all 1.4m people. Do you believe in 5 years time everyone would have the same amount or some people would end up poor and others much richer?

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Postby michaelm » July 31st, 2017, 1:10 pm

timelapse wrote:Here's my take..
Lets say that the world is a barrel containing 9 apples and that the are 10 people .Everybody needs to eat a whole apple to be comfortable.

If everybody shared the apples equally, everybody would get some, but not the total amount that is required.This is communism.

One guy decides that he wants 5 apples, and because he is stronger than the rest of them, the remaining 9 people have to fight over 4 apples.This is capitalism.IMO, being rich has to come at the cost of others.


Then plant your own apple tree! Rather than sitting around watching how many apples other people have.

You won't get an apple right away but you'll have a lot in the future. And plant other short crops for the interim while you nurture your apple tree.

And don't make excuses why you can't grow an apple tree... Like the other person has better soil, more fertilizer, more time etc.. Heck if apples don't grow in your climate then plant oranges and use it to barter for apples later on!

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby ruffneck_12 » July 31st, 2017, 1:21 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:A theoretical question for you all to answer (it will be subjective)

If all the money in Trinidad was equally shared among all 1.4m people. Do you believe in 5 years time everyone would have the same amount or some people would end up poor and others much richer?



We will end up where we are currently

The former rich people will build back their wealth.
The former poor people would just have a nice car park up in a galvanize shed. And a '20,000W' courts stereo set but sleeping on a mattress on the ground.

It's not how much money you have, it's what you chose to spend/invest it on.

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby zorced » July 31st, 2017, 1:55 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:A theoretical question for you all to answer (it will be subjective)

If all the money in Trinidad was equally shared among all 1.4m people. Do you believe in 5 years time everyone would have the same amount or some people would end up poor and others much richer?



We will end up where we are currently

The former rich people will build back their wealth.
The former poor people would just have a nice car park up in a galvanize shed. And a '20,000W' courts stereo set but sleeping on a mattress on the ground.

It's not how much money you have, it's what you chose to spend/invest it on.


Like winning the lottery and ending up with a deficit net worth.

Just remember not all of the "have nots" spend their disposable income like this and would be in a vastly different position from where they are right now should something like this happen.

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Postby RedVEVO » July 31st, 2017, 1:59 pm

timelapse wrote:Here's my take..
Lets say that the world is a barrel containing 9 apples and that the are 10 people .Everybody needs to eat a whole apple to be comfortable.

If everybody shared the apples equally, everybody would get some, but not the total amount that is required.This is communism.

One guy decides that he wants 5 apples, and because he is stronger than the rest of them, the remaining 9 people have to fight over 4 apples.This is capitalism.IMO, being rich has to come at the cost of others.


You definitely need to go back to trade school.

And then go look for your Daddy.

Capitalism is when one guy buys 5 apples and divide it into 20 pieces and sell them at a profit
to the remaining 9 people.

Gov't takes the other 4 apples then waste it.

Then Gov't Tax all 10 people.

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Postby 10-01 » July 31st, 2017, 2:04 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:why don't poor people just buy more money


why do poor people want to look rich ( buys the most expensive stuff eg. clothes , shoes , watches etc ) and cant afford it

but rich people jus buy normal stuff ?

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby pugboy » July 31st, 2017, 2:15 pm

Most definitely In the case of pyramid schemes aka clico

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Postby RedVEVO » July 31st, 2017, 2:23 pm

10-01 wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:why don't poor people just buy more money


why do poor people want to look rich ( buys the most expensive stuff eg. clothes , shoes , watches etc ) and cant afford it

but rich people jus buy normal stuff ?


It makes them happy .

Then they go on Facebook with a selfie.

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Postby RBphoto » July 31st, 2017, 2:23 pm

This is a sufferer question.

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Postby 10-01 » July 31st, 2017, 2:25 pm

RedVEVO wrote:
10-01 wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:why don't poor people just buy more money


why do poor people want to look rich ( buys the most expensive stuff eg. clothes , shoes , watches etc ) and cant afford it

but rich people jus buy normal stuff ?


It makes them happy .

Then they go on Facebook with a selfie.


:oops: who d fack pays $2500 for a jordan :?:

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Postby matr1x » July 31st, 2017, 2:37 pm

The small fish will always be eaten by bigger ones.

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby timelapse » July 31st, 2017, 2:51 pm

RedVEVO wrote:
timelapse wrote:Here's my take..
Lets say that the world is a barrel containing 9 apples and that the are 10 people .Everybody needs to eat a whole apple to be comfortable.

If everybody shared the apples equally, everybody would get some, but not the total amount that is required.This is communism.

One guy decides that he wants 5 apples, and because he is stronger than the rest of them, the remaining 9 people have to fight over 4 apples.This is capitalism.IMO, being rich has to come at the cost of others.


You definitely need to go back to trade school.

And then go look for your Daddy.

Capitalism is when one guy buys 5 apples and divide it into 20 pieces and sell them at a profit
to the remaining 9 people.

Gov't takes the other 4 apples then waste it.

Then Gov't Tax all 10 people.


Trade is not even in this situation.What I am talking about is division of resources. If resources were ready available, there would be no big demand for them.Everybody would have what they wanted .

What this have to do with my Daddy?
I know where mine is, do you?

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby airuma » July 31st, 2017, 3:30 pm

timelapse wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:
timelapse wrote:Here's my take..
Lets say that the world is a barrel containing 9 apples and that the are 10 people .Everybody needs to eat a whole apple to be comfortable.

If everybody shared the apples equally, everybody would get some, but not the total amount that is required.This is communism.

One guy decides that he wants 5 apples, and because he is stronger than the rest of them, the remaining 9 people have to fight over 4 apples.This is capitalism.IMO, being rich has to come at the cost of others.


You definitely need to go back to trade school.

And then go look for your Daddy.

Capitalism is when one guy buys 5 apples and divide it into 20 pieces and sell them at a profit
to the remaining 9 people.

Gov't takes the other 4 apples then waste it.

Then Gov't Tax all 10 people.


Trade is not even in this situation.What I am talking about is division of resources. If resources were ready available, there would be no big demand for them.Everybody would have what they wanted .

What this have to do with my Daddy?
I know where mine is, do you?

Am...... you did mention capitalism....

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby airuma » July 31st, 2017, 3:32 pm

michaelm wrote:
timelapse wrote:Here's my take..
Lets say that the world is a barrel containing 9 apples and that the are 10 people .Everybody needs to eat a whole apple to be comfortable.

If everybody shared the apples equally, everybody would get some, but not the total amount that is required.This is communism.

One guy decides that he wants 5 apples, and because he is stronger than the rest of them, the remaining 9 people have to fight over 4 apples.This is capitalism.IMO, being rich has to come at the cost of others.


Then plant your own apple tree! Rather than sitting around watching how many apples other people have.

You won't get an apple right away but you'll have a lot in the future. And plant other short crops for the interim while you nurture your apple tree.

And don't make excuses why you can't grow an apple tree... Like the other person has better soil, more fertilizer, more time etc.. Heck if apples don't grow in your climate then plant oranges and use it to barter for apples later on!

Most sensible post I have seen in recent times.

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby sickbad » July 31st, 2017, 6:00 pm

10-01 wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:
10-01 wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:why don't poor people just buy more money


why do poor people want to look rich ( buys the most expensive stuff eg. clothes , shoes , watches etc ) and cant afford it

but rich people jus buy normal stuff ?


It makes them happy .

Then they go on Facebook with a selfie.


:oops: who d fack pays $2500 for a jordan :?:
sLACK people !

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby matr1x » July 31st, 2017, 6:50 pm

Ninjas always going to church looking for prosperity

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby RedVEVO » July 31st, 2017, 7:58 pm

10-01 wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:
10-01 wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:why don't poor people just buy more money


why do poor people want to look rich ( buys the most expensive stuff eg. clothes , shoes , watches etc ) and cant afford it

but rich people jus buy normal stuff ?


It makes them happy .

Then they go on Facebook with a selfie.


:oops: who d fack pays $2500 for a jordan :?:


Facebook people .. who pants falling down and underwear showing ..

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Re: Does being rich come at the cost of others?

Postby RedVEVO » July 31st, 2017, 8:01 pm

matr1x wrote:The small fish will always be eaten by bigger ones.


In Trini small fish eating small fish .. everyday

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