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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby sMASH » October 8th, 2018, 3:18 pm

About 11% max capacity... and it took 4 hours.
Okay.

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Postby pugboy » October 8th, 2018, 3:52 pm

who get the crane contract to move the ramp everyday ?

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Postby toyolink » October 8th, 2018, 4:08 pm

Finally the boat can provide some relief.
One wonders if the Tobago business community can recover the losses sustained during this painful procurement process.
No more bad news with this vessel would be welcomed.

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Postby sMASH » October 8th, 2018, 4:45 pm

pugboy wrote:who get the crane contract to move the ramp everyday ?
Well damn, talk about nice wuk.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby sMASH » October 8th, 2018, 4:46 pm

After sandals start, who going to remain in business?

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Postby De Dragon » October 8th, 2018, 4:52 pm

sMASH wrote:After sandals start, who going to remain in business?

Plenty people, JUHN Scarfy Ltd., Impsy Ltd., Arse-Wari Ltd., Goebbels Young Ltd., Roundabout Rohan Ltd...............

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Postby gastly369 » October 8th, 2018, 6:33 pm

tr1ad wrote:
sMASH wrote:
K74T wrote:Image
What percentage of the capacity did they have, weight wise?


85 persons, 10 vehicles according to PATT
Rofllll eleleleolol

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby No_Name » October 8th, 2018, 9:41 pm

De Dragon wrote:
sMASH wrote:After sandals start, who going to remain in business?

Plenty people, JUHN Scarfy Ltd., Impsy Ltd., Arse-Wari Ltd., Goebbels Young Ltd., Roundabout Rohan Ltd...............


Doh forget PENIS Inc...lol

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Postby hydroep » October 10th, 2018, 1:56 am

Yes, put fellas like Malcom Jones and see how efficiently things will run. PATT board will have it nice, less responsibility for the same salary because allyuh done know dem eh taking no salary cut...:|

PATT to be relieved of seabridge duties - Rohan

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More changes are com­ing at the Port Au­thor­i­ty of T&T.

Works and Trans­port Min­is­ter Ro­han Sinanan is “push­ing for” the To­ba­go seabridge to be com­plete­ly re­moved from its purview and placed un­der a new com­pa­ny.

Sinanan de­tailed the plan dur­ing yes­ter­day’s 2019 Bud­get de­bate in Par­lia­ment. He ad­mit­ted the seabridge had caused a lot of agony for both Trinidad and To­ba­go, adding when he as­sumed of­fice he’d been faced with a “loom­ing cri­sis about to ex­plode.” He said he was re­fer­ring to the T&T In­ter-is­land Trans­port com­pa­ny, a PATT sub­sidiary which was man­ag­ing the seabridge.

“I don’t want to get in­to who was right or wrong, or who said what or didn’t say, or whose fault it was—that was the sub­ject of three in­ves­ti­ga­tions, most sig­nif­i­cant­ly by Par­lia­ment’s Joint Se­lect Com­mit­tee,” Sinanan said.

He said prob­lems in­clud­ed lack of vi­sion and plan­ning for what Gov­ern­ment want­ed to do on the seabridge, lack of prop­er main­te­nance of ves­sels, in­suf­fi­cient train­ing for lo­cals to han­dle ves­sel main­te­nance and lack of ac­count­abil­i­ty and re­spon­si­bil­i­ty for seabridge op­er­a­tions.

Sinanan said so­lu­tions in­clud­ed get­ting a com­pe­tent team to man­age/main­tain ves­sels and train­ing of lo­cals to main­tain them. He said the new team is al­ready “on board and aware of their oblig­a­tions.”

He said he would be “push­ing firm­ly” for re­moval of the seabridge from the Port Au­thor­i­ty and plac­ing it un­der a new com­pa­ny with a sep­a­rate board.

“The new com­pa­ny will have the skillset for an ef­fi­cient, ef­fec­tive and re­li­able seabridge and in­ter-is­land sea trans­port sys­tem. The new com­pa­ny will al­so be re­spon­si­ble for the Port-of-Spain/San Fer­nan­do wa­ter taxis,” he added.

“This sep­a­ra­tion of du­ties will en­able the Port Au­thor­i­ty to re­or­gan­ise it­self so it can com­pete and be on par with up­grad­ed ports of the re­gion.”

In March at the height of fer­ry is­sues, Sinanan had hint­ed a ten­der would have been ad­ver­tised for a man­age­ment com­pa­ny to take over seabridge and wa­ter taxi op­er­a­tions. He’d said then he wasn’t con­vinced there was in-house ca­pa­bil­i­ty con­cern­ing the ves­sels’ main­te­nance.

The Port Au­thor­i­ty will be mak­ing a pre­sen­ta­tion on the re­struc­tur­ing of op­er­a­tion to Cab­i­net this week, he said.

Oth­er plans to re­vive the seabridge in­clude re­plac­ing old fer­ries with new fast fer­ries, he said, not­ing these fer­ries were or­dered from Aus­tralia for de­liv­ery in 2020. Ten­ders al­so close short­ly for the lease of an ad­di­tion­al fer­ry. He said if “things go as in­tend­ed,” the leased fer­ry will sup­ple­ment the T&T Spir­it and Galleons Pas­sage on the seabridge un­til the new fast fer­ries ar­rive.

Sinanan said when the two Aus­tralian ves­sels ar­rive in 2020 and be­gin op­er­at­ing from PoS to To­ba­go, the leased fer­ry will no longer be used and the T&T Ex­press will be put up for sale. At that time, the Galleons Pas­sage will be put on the pro­ject­ed To­co fer­ry port run. Ten­ders are al­so cur­rent­ly be­ing is­sued for an­oth­er car­go ves­sel.

He said this week’s start of Galleons Pas­sage sail­ings takes To­ba­go seat ca­pac­i­ty back up to 1,500. He said the cur­rent car­go ves­sel was al­so work­ing in an “ac­cept­able man­ner at 60 per cent of peak car­go re­quire­ments.”

“...The seabridge is back to nor­mal and will be get­ting bet­ter with this turn­around,” Sinanan de­clared.

He said a foren­sic au­dit rec­om­mend­ed by the JSC com­mit­tee will al­so be done in­to the ten­der­ing process for the Su­per Fast Gali­cia and all the cir­cum­stances sur­round­ing it.


[url]http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/patt-to-be-relieved-of-seabridge-duties--rohan-6.2.687401.3f41f3df5f[url]

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby ElSoc » October 14th, 2018, 10:41 am

How come no mention of the Galleons making to trip to Bago in 4hrs with nearly full load?

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Postby gastly369 » October 14th, 2018, 10:53 am

Cause "nearly full load".....

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Postby ElSoc » October 14th, 2018, 11:45 am

315/400 is still ok not so? Much better than 85

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Postby hustla_ambition101 » October 14th, 2018, 11:47 am

sMASH wrote:After sandals start, who going to remain in business?
Whose fault with that be?

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby Strugglerzinc » October 14th, 2018, 3:04 pm

hustla_ambition101 wrote:
sMASH wrote:After sandals start, who going to remain in business?
Whose fault with that be?


People who go Sandals don't go to smaller hotels, inns, apartments and guest houses. Its Magdalena, Coco Reef etc that going to see the majority of competition, not the smaller operators.
Sandals is adults only so that's how much people out right there?
The rest ah Trinis will want to try it to be in the stoosh crowd then complain bitterly afterwards how expensive it was and how Coco Reef or Grafton better for the money.

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Postby j.o.e » October 14th, 2018, 4:10 pm

ElSoc wrote:How come no mention of the Galleons making to trip to Bago in 4hrs with nearly full load?


Because Trinis much prefer to moan about negatives.

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Postby rspann » October 14th, 2018, 4:21 pm

ElSoc wrote:How come no mention of the Galleons making to trip to Bago in 4hrs with nearly full load?



Maybe because 4 hrs ent nothing to boast about?

If they bought the right boat it would have been much less.

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Postby ElSoc » October 14th, 2018, 6:36 pm

rspann wrote:
ElSoc wrote:How come no mention of the Galleons making to trip to Bago in 4hrs with nearly full load?



Maybe because 4 hrs ent nothing to boast about?

If they bought the right boat it would have been much less.


That's the time it currently takes the other two.

The other two boats are being built are they not?

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » October 14th, 2018, 7:10 pm

ElSoc wrote:
rspann wrote:
ElSoc wrote:How come no mention of the Galleons making to trip to Bago in 4hrs with nearly full load?



Maybe because 4 hrs ent nothing to boast about?

If they bought the right boat it would have been much less.


That's the time it currently takes the other two.

The other two boats are being built are they not?


The previous boat was doing it in less time.....you boiling da balizeee every morning boyy

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Postby rspann » October 14th, 2018, 7:12 pm

ElSoc wrote:
rspann wrote:
ElSoc wrote:How come no mention of the Galleons making to trip to Bago in 4hrs with nearly full load?



Maybe because 4 hrs ent nothing to boast about?

If they bought the right boat it would have been much less.


That's the time it currently takes the other two.

The other two boats are being built are they not?

How long it took the Warrior spirit and the Express?

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Postby teems1 » October 14th, 2018, 7:14 pm

j.o.e wrote:
ElSoc wrote:How come no mention of the Galleons making to trip to Bago in 4hrs with nearly full load?


Because Trinis much prefer to moan about negatives.


Spirit and Express did it in 2hrs 45mins and 3hrs if choppy waters with full passenger and vehicle load. That number jumped to 4hrs when only running on 1 engine due to poor maintenance.

The GP trip was 4 hours 10mins and there were only 85 persons and 10 vehicles.

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Postby rspann » October 14th, 2018, 7:28 pm

Thanks Teems, I was wondering if is only me thought that it too just over 2 1/2 hours. Also coming back used to take less too.

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Postby worksux101 » October 14th, 2018, 10:27 pm

Spirit and Express were 2.5-3 hrs depending on sea condition.
Not sure if it were those or their predecessors that were capable of doing it in under 2, however were found to be damaging Trinidad’s north coast with the resulting waves.

I’m still of the opinion that a port in Toco would be best for the passenger ships, and leave the cargo ship in POS.

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Postby hong kong phooey » October 14th, 2018, 11:16 pm

worksux101 wrote:Spirit and Express were 2.5-3 hrs depending on sea condition.
Not sure if it were those or their predecessors that were capable of doing it in under 2, however were found to be damaging Trinidad’s north coast with the resulting waves.

I’m still of the opinion that a port in Toco would be best for the passenger ships, and leave the cargo ship in POS.

there is plans to build a port in Toco.
With the highway time to get to Toco will be drastically reduced.
Look and see who purchasing all the land in Toco for the last 3 years

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Postby worksux101 » October 14th, 2018, 11:37 pm

No surprise. Same in Fyzabad where the highway was supsd to past. Corrupt country is corrupt

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Postby ElSoc » October 15th, 2018, 12:27 am

worksux101 wrote:Spirit and Express were 2.5-3 hrs depending on sea condition.
Not sure if it were those or their predecessors that were capable of doing it in under 2, however were found to be damaging Trinidad’s north coast with the resulting waves.

I’m still of the opinion that a port in Toco would be best for the passenger ships, and leave the cargo ship in POS.


Yeah I remember going on it in 09 or 05 and it took that 2.5hrs but in more recent times it's been 4hours or slightly more. The Galleons could be useful on the Toco route with another boat.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby No_Name » October 19th, 2018, 12:06 pm

So GG broke down in d Ocean for almost an hour this morn...
Passenger who I knw said it eh ready fuh da Bago rin...

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Postby K74T » October 19th, 2018, 12:10 pm

Is he a marine engineer?

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Postby hong kong phooey » October 19th, 2018, 12:41 pm

No_Name wrote:So GG broke down in d Ocean for almost an hour this morn...
Passenger who I knw said it eh ready fuh da Bago rin...


No it did not break down it stopped so passengers could enjoy the scenic beauty

or the unc flush a jersey down the toilet and cause the boat to shut down

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby hydroep » October 19th, 2018, 1:34 pm

Electrical problems, running on 3 engines.

https://newsday.co.tt/2018/10/19/galleons-passage-electrical-issues/

Thing eh even make two weeks yet. Ah wonder if it under warranty?...:|

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby No_Name » October 19th, 2018, 3:49 pm

K74T wrote:Is he a marine engineer?


Tell me, does common sense have to do anything with someone's Status? Especially one who frequents the seabridge...
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