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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 17th, 2018, 6:54 am

Bets on when it would start to work

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby ADONI » July 17th, 2018, 8:00 am

^^A 3 months before the next general election!

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby kstt » July 17th, 2018, 9:19 am

Is there strong current between Trinidad and Tobago?

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby bluefete » July 17th, 2018, 9:23 am

kstt wrote:Is there strong current between Trinidad and Tobago?


THIS!

And how strong does it have to be to affect the Galleon's Passage?

I never heard that problem when we had the MV Panorama(which used to take about 5-6 hours to get to Tobago) / MV Gelting / T&T Spirit or any other previous vessels.

It seems like they are putting up all the excuses up front - just in case.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby Skanky » July 17th, 2018, 10:07 am

kstt wrote:Is there strong current between Trinidad and Tobago?


Very strong currents which last for weeks sometimes.
When I used to work offshore I worked with lots of foreigners who worked in every imaginable part of the world. Every time we had to stop work for current they would all say the same thing....Trinidad has some of the worst currents they have ever experienced in their lives.

Now these fools go and buy a boat that is unable to cope with the currents we have here.
I have never before seen such incompetence.

If stupidity were football the PNM would be France.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby meccalli » July 17th, 2018, 10:26 am

Can't speak for bigger vessels but there's culmination of several internal waves and eddie currents that interact on the north coast. The prevailing equatorial current runs west/north west constantly with the exception of spring tides for a couple hours, this usually interacts with internal waves that run parallel and sometimes opposite to the prevailing guyana current, those are generated by the shelf break off the coast of tobago.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby sMASH » July 17th, 2018, 10:53 am

^^aka the bocas!!

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 17th, 2018, 11:03 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:So when the boat have to make the trip from bago to trini and the currents bad...wah deh go do? Stop it with people on board??


so....this is very possible then

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby meccalli » July 17th, 2018, 11:07 am

The bocas has it's own issues generated by outgoing and incoming tides within the gulf of paria but only during the period of tide change which causes a strong ripple known as la remous.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby sMASH » July 17th, 2018, 11:49 am

waiiiiit, it have more than one bad piece ah water... damn...

i like the land. nothing wrong with it.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 17th, 2018, 12:01 pm

Saw these images being shared as photos from on board the Galleons Passage

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby bluefete » July 17th, 2018, 2:31 pm

Skanky wrote:Now these fools go and buy a boat that is unable to cope with the currents we have here.
I have never before seen such incompetence
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Even though the currents might be strong, as others have stated, it boggles the mind that this boat might have to crawl all the way to Tobago, given our sea conditions.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby bluefete » July 17th, 2018, 2:31 pm

Pics above:

Wey de vomit bags??????

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby hydroep » July 17th, 2018, 2:53 pm

bluefete wrote:Pics above:

Wey de vomit bags??????


Sh!tkicker and dem too cheap fuh dat hoss. The railing right dey...:|

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby MaxPower » July 17th, 2018, 4:21 pm

Trinis gonna stinkkkkkk that up....shouldve put all plastic seats.....pressure wash it after each trip

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Postby nick639v2 » July 17th, 2018, 4:27 pm

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Guessing this is car hold spaces???

Ting for mids box on roof and sound off... Couple burnouts.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby airuma » July 17th, 2018, 4:27 pm

Looks like "open container" for vehicles. More money for rental companies in Tobago!

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 17th, 2018, 6:28 pm

Remember people....is not the look but is if it wukking

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby matix » July 17th, 2018, 7:12 pm

I hope no yellow people ain’t sabotage the boat. They always doing that to the PNM

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby sMASH » July 17th, 2018, 7:13 pm

How many passengers this is capable of toting?

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 17th, 2018, 8:21 pm

Rohani say we pumping to bago in 2 weeks time

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!!

Postby De Dragon » July 17th, 2018, 8:58 pm

randolphinshan wrote:
kstt wrote:
WHO LYING NOW ROHAN?

Yesterday the incompetent Rohan Sinanan, Minister of Works and Transport along with a tweet from the Minister of Finance asserted that the Galleons Passage would arrive today by 2:00pm “new and in perfect condition”. I was accused of lying when in a press release I indicated that all was not well with the journey to Trinidad by the Galleons Passage.

With binoculars in hand at the Port of Port of Spain on Galleons Passage watch I anxiously awaited the arrival of the vessel at the tweeted arrival time of 2:00pm. NIDCO by 1:00pm, however issued a release indicating that the vessel would arrive later but sometime today as it is close. I TOLD YOU SO.

According to NIDCO the delay is a result of “the vessel is still experiencing strong currents and has reduced its speed accordingly”. We as a population is expected to believe this information without question.
Monitoring the voyage of the Galleons Passage and consulting with Maritime experts suggests that there is something more in the mortar than the pestle.

Monitoring of the vessel reveals as follows:

The Galleons Passage recorded speeds are recorded as follows,
Departure Cuba, 07/07/2018 11.1kts, Waypoint 17 48N 74,52W 11/07/18@0720hrs 9.3kts,
Waypoint 3 16 37N 73 42W 11/07/18@2031 7.3kts,
Waypoint 4 16 16N 72 55W 12/07/2018)0326hrs 7.5kts,
Waypoint 5 15 43N 71 45W 12/7/18 @1229 8.1kts,
Waypoint 6 15 15N 70 46W 12/7/18@2210hrs 9.2kts
Waypoint 7 14 32N 69 14W 13/7/18@0723hrs 8.5kts.
Waypoint 8 13 56N 67. 56 W 13/7/18 @ 1852hrs 6.5kts.
Waypoint 9 13 14N 6634W 14/7/18@0925hrs 5.4Kts

After consulting Maritime experts, the conclusion is that this information implies that there is an issue, current does not affect a vessel with the capability to do 20 kts so badly as usually you would just simply increase speed. It is suspected that the vessel is now running now on 2 engines clutched in to save fuel.

Waypoint 10 12,52N 65 50W 14/7/18@ 1812hrs 6.4 kts
Waypoint 11 12.32N 65 12W@0035hrs, 6.5kts
Waypoint 12 12 15N 64 35W 15/07/18@ 0711hrs 6.9kts
Waypoint 13 11 52 N 63 51W 15/07/18@1343hrs, 6.6kts.
Waypoint 14 11 39N 63 26W 15/7/18@1950hrs 5.3kts
Waypoint 15 11.39N 63 26W 15/07/18 5.3kts
Waypoint 16 11 33N 63 15W 15/7/18@2229hrs 3.7kts.

This information now suggests now that the vessel is now at this point down to 1 engine or waiting on the fuel barge to go under way replenishment.
Waypoint 17 11 29N 63 07W 16/7/18@0050hrs 4.1kts,
Waypoint 18 11 22n 62 53W 16/7/18@0456hrs 3.5kts,
Waypoint 19 11 19N 62 47W 16/7/18@0637hrs 3.7kts,
Waypoint 20 11 12N 62 36 W 16/7/18@0954hrs No Speed Recorded
Waypoint 21 11 10N 62 32W 16/7/18@ 1100hrs 4.0Kts
Waypoint 20 its current position is 47 miles from the Grand Boca, and doing 4.5-5kts ETA Port of Spain now 0200hrs 17/7/18kts,

Is the government really that brazen that they would have us believe that a boat that can do 20Kts service speed, cannot make headway at more than 5kts for the last 12 hours.

It is time for incompetent Minister Rohan Sinanan and Minister Colm Imbert to allow professional technical experts to present the facts to the population. The Rowley Administration can wish away this issue by name calling those who have pointed out the challenges of the Galleons Passage.

Had the procurement of the vessel for the sea bridge gone through a proper transparent process with qualified and experienced persons the country would not be a witness to this national disgrace.

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Any sensible person will know not to believe this man. Maybe the ghost writing business for Sat slow down and corruption money running low so he getting desperate. As a former Agriculture Minister I suggest he go plant some bodi and baigan and keep his nonsense spewing mouth shut.

Yes, let's attack the messenger :roll: IF what Devant is saying is true, it should be easy to refute not so? I don't mean your histrionic type, but a factual one. Also, every time there are strong currents, are we now expected to tack on 3-4 hours to the sailing time? Weren't we assured that this "brand new" vessel could tek de jamming?

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby sMASH » July 17th, 2018, 10:19 pm

No, we weren't assured the vessel could tek jam. We were assured it was a steal of a deal.

That Venezuela reneged on its purchase, and also it had suffered damage in its initial trials, so that all 4 props and 3 of the 4 shaft covers were changed.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby Rory Phoulorie » July 18th, 2018, 6:18 am

MaxPower wrote:Trinis gonna stinkkkkkk that up....shouldve put all plastic seats.....pressure wash it after each trip

I am sorry for the middle seat passengers in some of those seating areas. Not even an arm rest between the seats. Some poor soul will have to deal with a fat mampie falling asleep, leaning over and crushing him to death during the course of the trip.

All the people who vetted the purchase of that boat needs to be fired. Not surprisingly, this PNM is just as bad as the PP. This country has no future as long as we only have those two parties to choose from.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 18th, 2018, 6:45 am

Well said^

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby hydroep » July 18th, 2018, 12:30 pm

Not sure I believe this nuh, looks like an attempt to weasel-out of planned works and then place the blame squarely upon the shoulders of the traveling public should anything happen:

...This means plans for additional retrofitting have been halted.

One of the major modifications that was planned for the vessel was the covering of the sundeck, which has the capacity to seat 100 passengers.

But Sinanan said a decision was taken to allow passengers to experience the open air seating and give feedback on whether the sundeck should be kept or covered.

He said if passengers decide the deck should be covered, this will be done after the July/August vacation.

But he noted that travelers, particularly tourists, may enjoy the open air experience...


https://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/lo ... 13394.html
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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby Redman » July 18th, 2018, 12:36 pm

Rory Phoulorie wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Trinis gonna stinkkkkkk that up....shouldve put all plastic seats.....pressure wash it after each trip

I am sorry for the middle seat passengers in some of those seating areas. Not even an arm rest between the seats. Some poor soul will have to deal with a fat mampie falling asleep, leaning over and crushing him to death during the course of the trip.

All the people who vetted the purchase of that boat needs to be fired. Not surprisingly, this PNM is just as bad as the PP. This country has no future as long as we only have those two parties to choose from.


this one looks like the last one...and resembles the next.

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Re: The Tobago Ferry Boat Scandal!!! Galleons Passage is here

Postby Ben_spanna » July 18th, 2018, 12:43 pm

all of the qualified construction eneginnering in the wold cant help that twit understand how water mechanics works, he said that in his opinion the boat was superbly suited to Trinibagos passage, yet he himself cannot even maneuver a simple 32 foot cruiser to bring it along side a jetty in perfect conditions.

Some group of individuals are being handsomely rewarded (legally or illegally) for selecting this vessel, these people must be brought before the population and take full responsibility...………….

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