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Yeah that 2007 elections was the best chance we had at some real change. I remember how hot and sweaty everybody got for that, especially the younger voters who felt like politics was an "old man's" game. Mostly old people doing things for the benefit of those that there long time. That catastrophic loss and then COP a huge blow to people thinking that their vote can make a difference. Then COP joining UNC just added insult to injury and pushed people to apathy as they didn't see themselves every being to vote for someone that would represent their interests. I was in UWI at the time and I remember like 80% - 90% of the people I knew voted for COP. When the re-elections were in 2010 people still went out and voted but UNCA but the enthusiasm was gone. By 2015, people seemed to have settled back into accepting that it was just more of the same and biggest talking point about voting was getting time off.hydroep wrote:
You've made some really good points there.
I agree that no side should attempt to whitewash the other, and outside of some unscrupulous politicians and trolls I honestly don't think that's ever anyone's intention. It's usually nothing more than a simple misunderstanding which get blown out of proportion.
The truth is we don't live in a perfect world and regardless of how carefully one treads, someone will inevitably get offended. The trick is to manage the discussion, without stifling freedom of expression because a healthy society is built upon consensus derived from the free exchange of ideas. Anything outside of that sets us on the road to tyranny.
I also think you're on to something with the demoralization of swing voters.
The disappointment of the 2007 elections where the COP failed to gain even a single seat and the failed experiment that was the PP where they were used and discarded like an old washcloth, was a double whammy that has left them livid. The question is: what else is left for them to try?
Outside of an unlikely evolution of the nature of grassroots support, the next best option is to probably aim for an overhaul of the political structure and re-visit the discussion on Proportional Representation. But again, these are not new ideas.
Apart from needing a sympathetic ear in Government to make these things a reality, the established parties only pay lip-service to the idea of constitutional reform. After all, there's not much incentive to interfere with a system that has kept them entrenched for the last 50+ years.
However, I'm inclined to believe that it's probably not apathy at all, just the stark realization that it doesn't make sense beating a dead horse. So, they've decided to sit back and let the current situation play out to its logical conclusion. In the meantime they are getting their houses in order and will be poised to take advantage of any opportunity should it present itself.
Slartibartfast wrote:Yeah that 2007 elections was the best chance we had at some real change. I remember how hot and sweaty everybody got for that, especially the younger voters who felt like politics was an "old man's" game. Mostly old people doing things for the benefit of those that there long time. That catastrophic loss and then COP a huge blow to people thinking that their vote can make a difference. Then COP joining UNC just added insult to injury and pushed people to apathy as they didn't see themselves every being to vote for someone that would represent their interests. I was in UWI at the time and I remember like 80% - 90% of the people I knew voted for COP. When the re-elections were in 2010 people still went out and voted but UNCA but the enthusiasm was gone. By 2015, people seemed to have settled back into accepting that it was just more of the same and biggest talking point about voting was getting time off.
Anyway, I'm expecting more of the same for at least the next 20 to 25 years but if things continue to progress the way that things are progressing I think that we may live to see some very interesting times. Given the increased rate of the concentration of wealth and the rise of AI and robotics that further exacerbates it, I'm guessing that there would be a resurgence of Marxism in the coming decades. I highly doubt that the world would adopt communism but unemployment relief programs may become so ubiquitous that it may give rise to something like universal basic income within our lifetime. Whether or not that occurs in this country is up to debate because as our political leaders and global followers and as PNM like to point out at every opportunity, things can still get a lot worse.
kstt wrote:http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/excaroni-cane-farmer-wins-3m-from-state-6.2.739399.d45da4c097
16 cycles wrote:kstt wrote:http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/excaroni-cane-farmer-wins-3m-from-state-6.2.739399.d45da4c097
what even sadder is those who got money in the earlies and invested in HCU....no idea how HH still out of jail....
Not just HH. All the enablers should have made a jail as well like the big time accountant who knowingly misrepresented the accounts of the company to portray financial health.16 cycles wrote:kstt wrote:http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/excaroni-cane-farmer-wins-3m-from-state-6.2.739399.d45da4c097
what even sadder is those who got money in the earlies and invested in HCU....no idea how HH still out of jail....
kstt wrote:2018-12-05 19.18.12.png
Ben_spanna wrote:And guess what - a "Chinese" contractor is awarded that- so yuh know the Chinese company only getting about 500 million and the rest going into the hands of ……………. use your imagination...……………..
And people wonder why our local construction companies are catching their a$$e$... because big jobs of national pride are being handed to the foreign companies where theres No accountability.
The_Honourable wrote:Build a bridge because it too difficult to cross the street?
https://newsday.co.tt/2019/03/06/bridge ... old-office
rspann wrote:The_Honourable wrote:Build a bridge because it too difficult to cross the street?
https://newsday.co.tt/2019/03/06/bridge ... old-office
So you expect them to walk between all kinda poor people and vagrants?
sMASH wrote:rspann wrote:The_Honourable wrote:Build a bridge because it too difficult to cross the street?
https://newsday.co.tt/2019/03/06/bridge ... old-office
So you expect them to walk between all kinda poor people and vagrants?
building a bridge to cross a road.... and when u go hospital, u hadda sleep on a floor, waiting for a bed.
hydroep wrote:Who paying for Sh!tkicker's checkup?...
gt4tified wrote:12 Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft costing US$1.4 BILLION.
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