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Numb3r4 wrote:car wrote:Numb3r4 wrote:superstainless1250 wrote:nervewrecker wrote:superstainless1250 wrote:nervewrecker wrote:Numb3r4 wrote:
I don't know of the salaries statement exactly (still believe they are over-compensated permanent anyway) but yes Petrotrin has a problem with retaining talent, many leave after 8-15yrs. to go abroad or to one of the foreign multi-nationals.
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Oh and how about this one "dem boy doh stay here long, once dey get experience dey gone."
I feel I know who you talking about.
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When that group go home it have just a handful of permanent men
So who gonna pay for there pension plan? Hmmm
Right now that's the question everybody asking....
Well ah sorry for the employees who has 10 to 15 years permanent employment an is like 45 years of age still have 15 years to go an nobody to continue paying the plan
I guess the taxpayers will foot that bill right....just like in every other oil and gas company.
This employee loss has been going on a while now and the company has not even though of running a small programme whereby they could ever year or so bring in a few graduates and train them for 2 years and the appraise them.
Continuous training or employment programmes were always a threat to union workers or permanent men "dey want to fyah we", "dem eh takin' my wuk", I don't know why no-one could figure that out, a simple programme, that was/is proof that there is no forward/future based thinking at the company. Not to mention things like these help keep the public image and persona of the company in good regard, no one really cared, the company was and always has been an entity on to itself.
The current group of middle aged workers may have it hard, but if we adopt a "Caroni mentality" well VSEP anyone.....then the company will be a company of primarily contract workers. The issue is with the kind on workers who get their jobs there. If it is good guys who are employed on merit then fine, but if the current hiring practises continue.....
From what I last heard there seems to be a lot of "has-beens" or select folks from the private sector who may have been specific appointees or so it is rumoured...who are back....still though don't know how long you could run a company on overpriced consultants and contractors.....
Another thing, the improper distribution of workers, is what I would like to find out about, oil and gas is a technical thing yet I can't understand why their HR dept. is so over-staffed (or so I hear, feel free to correct). The technical fields are quickly farmed out much to the detriment of company...the thing is why do they need a large HR dept. if you have so much contract workers, isn't there less to manage about such workers, there is little long term tracking so you should have a smaller HR dept. or am I missing something? (Fell free to add or comment)
Also does the company have a computerized personnel database or is it still pen and paper or something in between? Serious question.
Computerized.
Yeah as in a proper digital employee database, where they track employees from qualifications to service, work order tracking and performance.
In some departments I don't even know if the work order system is still working though. Anyone knows about this?
Performance reviews were a big thing but after they were filled out by the employee they sort of...well I can't really say what happened after that.
nervewrecker wrote:The section i acquainted with, almost everyone going home next 5 years.
Permanent men that is
Redman wrote:No stone unturned.....sounds good...until you are given a narrow set of terms of reference.
Any stone will be turned outside of the AV issue?
Redman wrote:no-Hence the question.
Newsday learned that at a recent board meeting, a decision was taken to leave no stone unturned in giving Kroll Consulting Canada Company full leeway to find the perpetrators responsible for auditing the crude ‘ received’ at the Pointe-a-Pierre refinery from the lease operator and which according to Petrotrin’s August audit report into the allegations, smacks of a collusion between high-level employees of the company and the particular lease operator with the objective of having falsified the actual oil pumped from the field to its tanks.
Redman wrote:Newsday learned that at a recent board meeting, a decision was taken to leave no stone unturned in giving Kroll Consulting Canada Company full leeway to find the perpetrators responsible for auditing the crude ‘ received’ at the Pointe-a-Pierre refinery from the lease operator and which according to Petrotrin’s August audit report into the allegations, smacks of a collusion between high-level employees of the company and the particular lease operator with the objective of having falsified the actual oil pumped from the field to its tanks.
Only ONE lease Operator
One audit report
one Company
Everything in that article is singular.
Nothing systemic, company ,or process oriented....
Objective of the GPS investigation is....ONE employee.
Full bore investigation into that one spot dey....nowhere else.
If they do it right and truthfully...they WILL bring down this party.
RedVEVO wrote:Petrotrin will never turn a profit .
Rowley better ask Sandals to come take over .
Pointman-IA wrote:RedVEVO wrote:Petrotrin will never turn a profit .
Rowley better ask Sandals to come take over .
PETROTRIN can indeed become profitable but good sense must prevail by all involved.
The company has its STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS.
The SINS OF THE PAST are haunting the company today.
Poor Management Decisions tops the list.
And the list goes on.
RedVEVO wrote:Pointman-IA wrote:RedVEVO wrote:Petrotrin will never turn a profit .
Rowley better ask Sandals to come take over .
PETROTRIN can indeed become profitable but good sense must prevail by all involved.
The company has its STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES AND THREATS.
The SINS OF THE PAST are haunting the company today.
Poor Management Decisions tops the list.
And the list goes on.
Sell Petrotrin and it will be profitable.
Gov't cannot management it.
Or they can form ECOTT (Energy Company of Trinidad and Tobago) that incorporates TLA, NGC, NPMC, etc and operate a business model that is similar to PDVSA.RedVEVO wrote:PNM Rowley wants to liquidate CLICO.
Why not liquidate Petrotrin ?
Sell it to Shell .
RedVEVO wrote:PNM Rowley wants to liquidate CLICO.
Why not liquidate Petrotrin ?
Sell it to Shell .
RedVEVO wrote:^^^^
Petrotrin has wasted $$$$ so much Forex US$ US$ .
Billions and Billions $$$$$
We need to sell that broke foot goose to the highest bidder .
Bring in the Russians , Chinese, or Americans.
Sell, sell, sell .
Petrotrin will NEVER make a profit .
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NEVER !
Pointman-IA wrote:RedVEVO wrote:^^^^
Petrotrin has wasted $$$$ so much Forex US$ US$ .
Billions and Billions $$$$$
We need to sell that broke foot goose to the highest bidder .
Bring in the Russians , Chinese, or Americans.
Sell, sell, sell .
Petrotrin will NEVER make a profit .
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NEVER !
Would you sell your home if your mistress stops cooking for you?
airuma wrote:Pointman-IA wrote:RedVEVO wrote:^^^^
Petrotrin has wasted $$$$ so much Forex US$ US$ .
Billions and Billions $$$$$
We need to sell that broke foot goose to the highest bidder .
Bring in the Russians , Chinese, or Americans.
Sell, sell, sell .
Petrotrin will NEVER make a profit .
.
.
.
.
.
NEVER !
Would you sell your home if your mistress stops cooking for you?
This sounding like a Rowley comment!
So lets analyze your analogy a little..... You are comparing petrotrin to a house, the GoRTT (specifically minister of energy) to the home owner, the mistress who is not performing her cooking duties to the petrotrin management (specifically the chairman)...... so what are the "cooking duties" of petrotrin because they seem to be "cooking books" quite competently.
Pointman-IA wrote:airuma wrote:Pointman-IA wrote:RedVEVO wrote:^^^^
Petrotrin has wasted $$$$ so much Forex US$ US$ .
Billions and Billions $$$$$
We need to sell that broke foot goose to the highest bidder .
Bring in the Russians , Chinese, or Americans.
Sell, sell, sell .
Petrotrin will NEVER make a profit .
.
.
.
.
.
NEVER !
Would you sell your home if your mistress stops cooking for you?
This sounding like a Rowley comment!
So lets analyze your analogy a little..... You are comparing petrotrin to a house, the GoRTT (specifically minister of energy) to the home owner, the mistress who is not performing her cooking duties to the petrotrin management (specifically the chairman)...... so what are the "cooking duties" of petrotrin because they seem to be "cooking books" quite competently.
Where did I mentioned something that can be classed as derogatory?
RedVEVO wrote:Pointman-IA wrote:airuma wrote:Pointman-IA wrote:RedVEVO wrote:^^^^
Petrotrin has wasted $$$$ so much Forex US$ US$ .
Billions and Billions $$$$$
We need to sell that broke foot goose to the highest bidder .
Bring in the Russians , Chinese, or Americans.
Sell, sell, sell .
Petrotrin will NEVER make a profit .
.
.
.
.
.
NEVER !
Would you sell your home if your mistress stops cooking for you?
This sounding like a Rowley comment!
So lets analyze your analogy a little..... You are comparing petrotrin to a house, the GoRTT (specifically minister of energy) to the home owner, the mistress who is not performing her cooking duties to the petrotrin management (specifically the chairman)...... so what are the "cooking duties" of petrotrin because they seem to be "cooking books" quite competently.
Where did I mentioned something that can be classed as derogatory?
Look @ ting nah ? Man gone political ! Man ton lawyer ..
A Mistress .. You are basically calling a woman a "prostitute" or "deputy" = classed as derogatory .
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