Petrotrin update: now Trinidad Petroleum Holdings Ltd

[Pointman-IA]

I was hoping you would have mentioned names like Cooper, Ideco Rambler and Skytop.

The myth of the missing rig.

I guess you heard that by Savitri.

Something the public would not know was Petrotrin workers gave blood to the blood bank during their donation drives at the compound.

I wonder how the blood bank doing now?

Do the international companies do this as well?

Do the anti-Petrotrin voices even donate?

Most industries do this bro, plus you get a free cookie and Malta and 2 hours off work.

You don't have to give blood to have a cookie, Malta and 2 hrs. off work in Petrotrin or what was Petrotrin.

When you donate blood in the hospitals you get a free cookie and Malta. So you taking bullchit

Yeah I know in the hospital/blood drives when you donate blood.

But you didn't have to give blood to get 2 hrs off work and a Malta in Petrotrin, you could just have easily walked out the compound and spend the 2 hrs drinking and chillin' no donation of blood necessary and remember you probably will still get paid.

Daiz joke, yuh coulda go by savitri eat yuh belly full of roti and drink rum till yuh crash d company car then do so an claim it was on the job injury and get many months paid leave and a lumpsum. one of the many true stories of the hard working staff.
An this still slight, considering men teef whole rig from right in front the field police and had to pass guard booth rofl.

Myth, to some extent yes but the their is a lot of truth to the story. Their were noted instances of Petrotrin's equipment being used and leased to other contractors with out the knowledge of Stores or the Machine shop, other instances of Petrotrin equipment being loaned to specific contractors for specific jobs even though said contractors indicated the ability to do the job on their own without Petrotrin's equipment, often at the expense of the company.

One event that I know of involved a rig that while being moved had a component of the mast fell off and damage a public vehicle and as such the Police were called and they unknowingly called Petrotrin thinking it was a Petrotrin rig, when Petrotrin arrived they realised that said mast component was theirs and was now being used full time on a contractors rig.

Another issue involved a contractor's truck being used to move a load of 2 3/8 -2 7/8 in tubing, they were subsequently stopped as their paper didn't checkout, they drivers were cleared but the truck remained impounded by the Santa Flora police stating for quite some time.

Not to mention the instance of contractors with no rig being paid upfront to only then go and buy the rig (that probably was not within specification) and then use it for jobs within Petrotrin.

So for the most part the myth of the ENTIRE RIG disappearing is probably reaching but it is rooted in several small truths, small but true none the less.

And as a young employee there at the time, quite hilarious.

[Numb3r4]

I was hoping you would have mentioned names like Cooper, Ideco Rambler and Skytop.

The myth of the missing rig.

I guess you heard that by Savitri.

Most industries do this bro, plus you get a free cookie and Malta and 2 hours off work.

You don't have to give blood to have a cookie, Malta and 2 hrs. off work in Petrotrin or what was Petrotrin.

When you donate blood in the hospitals you get a free cookie and Malta. So you taking bullchit

Yeah I know in the hospital/blood drives when you donate blood.

But you didn't have to give blood to get 2 hrs off work and a Malta in Petrotrin, you could just have easily walked out the compound and spend the 2 hrs drinking and chillin' no donation of blood necessary and remember you probably will still get paid.

Daiz joke, yuh coulda go by savitri eat yuh belly full of roti and drink rum till yuh crash d company car then do so an claim it was on the job injury and get many months paid leave and a lumpsum. one of the many true stories of the hard working staff.
An this still slight, considering men teef whole rig from right in front the field police and had to pass guard booth rofl.

Myth, to some extent yes but the their is a lot of truth to the story. Their were noted instances of Petrotrin's equipment being used and leased to other contractors with out the knowledge of Stores or the Machine shop, other instances of Petrotrin equipment being loaned to specific contractors for specific jobs even though said contractors indicated the ability to do the job on their own without Petrotrin's equipment, often at the expense of the company.

One event that I know of involved a rig that while being moved had a component of the mast fell off and damage a public vehicle and as such the Police were called and they unknowingly called Petrotrin thinking it was a Petrotrin rig, when Petrotrin arrived they realised that said mast component was theirs and was now being used full time on a contractors rig.

Another issue involved a contractor's truck being used to move a load of 2 3/8 -2 7/8 in tubing, they were subsequently stopped as their paper didn't checkout, they drivers were cleared but the truck remained impounded by the Santa Flora police stating for quite some time.

Not to mention the instance of contractors with no rig being paid upfront to only then go and buy the rig (that probably was not within specification) and then use it for jobs within Petrotrin.

So for the most part the myth of the ENTIRE RIG disappearing is probably reaching but it is rooted in several small truths, small but true none the less.

And as a young employee there at the time, quite hilarious.

I won't get that specific, I'll leave some stuff for the imagination.

[Joshie23]

One of the greatest injustices ever done to workers was at PT! This model of efficiency and profitability was driven into the ground solely by management and the PP Government. These hard working employees who never abused a single perk or benefit were left out to dry by Espinet. Sad that a company that consistently made profits, and the best billion dollar decisions like WGTL, and Samsung had to close, and thus anger caring citizens like Joshie23 and PointMan-IA.

I was going to ask if you didn't have company shares to be multiplying, but then I realised it was Saturday that you posted. Then again, hard-working, shares-owning employees like you don't take days off. #worldsbestworker

You know, your apparent obsession with the whole Petrotrin situation puts some questions in my mind regarding some personal issues you may have that you haven't yet dealt with. Questions that probably aren't TriniTuner friendly. Feel free to PM me though or even let me know if you want to chat on WhatsApp. My friends and family that were affected by the closure have moved on and they were fired...and your chest still bunning yuh?? This inferiority complex rehhllyy starting to act up hoss. Get help, Dragon. I repeat...GET HELP.

[Pointman-IA]

De Dragon.

Take care yuh get a heart attack for worrying about the fate that lead to the closure of that particular state entity.

And yes I am proud to be a former employee of the Petroleum Company of Trinidad and Tobago Limited.

And yes I am proud to be a citizen of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago.

I commend you De Dragon for being employed in the private sector and boasting you have shares but when we all leave this life, we are not taking it with us.

**Pointman-IA was last seen conducting business with private entities in Europe because some of them in Trinidad provide poor quality products and charge ridiculous prices**

Something the public would not know was Petrotrin workers gave blood to the blood bank during their donation drives at the compound.

I wonder how the blood bank doing now?

Do the international companies do this as well?

Do the anti-Petrotrin voices even donate?

Most industries do this bro, plus you get a free cookie and Malta and 2 hours off work.

You don't have to give blood to have a cookie, Malta and 2 hrs. off work in Petrotrin or what was Petrotrin.

When you donate blood in the hospitals you get a free cookie and Malta. So you taking bullchit

Yeah I know in the hospital/blood drives when you donate blood.

But you didn't have to give blood to get 2 hrs off work and a Malta in Petrotrin, you could just have easily walked out the compound and spend the 2 hrs drinking and chillin' no donation of blood necessary and remember you probably will still get paid.

Daiz joke, yuh coulda go by savitri eat yuh belly full of roti and drink rum till yuh crash d company car then do so an claim it was on the job injury and get many months paid leave and a lumpsum. one of the many true stories of the hard working staff.
An this still slight, considering men teef whole rig from right in front the field police and had to pass guard booth rofl.

One of the greatest injustices ever done to workers was at PT! This model of efficiency and profitability was driven into the ground solely by management and the PP Government. These hard working employees who never abused a single perk or benefit were left out to dry by Espinet. Sad that a company that consistently made profits, and the best billion dollar decisions like WGTL, and Samsung had to close, and thus anger caring citizens like Joshie23 and PointMan-IA.

[Galvatron]

Just a thought....haven't heard any Petrotrin workers complain about their compensation package!

[Joshie23]

Just a thought....haven't heard any Petrotrin workers complain about their compensation package!

Complain for what exactly? You from Trinidad?

[Joshie23]

De Dragon.

Take care yuh get a heart attack for worrying about the fate that lead to the closure of that particular state entity.

And yes I am proud to be a former employee of the Petroleum Company of Trinidad and Tobago Limited.

And yes I am proud to be a citizen of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago.

I commend you De Dragon for being employed in the private sector and boasting you have shares but when we all leave this life, we are not taking it with us.

**Pointman-IA was last seen conducting business with private entities in Europe because some of them in Trinidad provide poor quality products and charge ridiculous prices**

Something the public would not know was Petrotrin workers gave blood to the blood bank during their donation drives at the compound.

I wonder how the blood bank doing now?

Do the international companies do this as well?

Do the anti-Petrotrin voices even donate?

Most industries do this bro, plus you get a free cookie and Malta and 2 hours off work.

You don't have to give blood to have a cookie, Malta and 2 hrs. off work in Petrotrin or what was Petrotrin.

When you donate blood in the hospitals you get a free cookie and Malta. So you taking bullchit

Yeah I know in the hospital/blood drives when you donate blood.

But you didn't have to give blood to get 2 hrs off work and a Malta in Petrotrin, you could just have easily walked out the compound and spend the 2 hrs drinking and chillin' no donation of blood necessary and remember you probably will still get paid.

Daiz joke, yuh coulda go by savitri eat yuh belly full of roti and drink rum till yuh crash d company car then do so an claim it was on the job injury and get many months paid leave and a lumpsum. one of the many true stories of the hard working staff.
An this still slight, considering men teef whole rig from right in front the field police and had to pass guard booth rofl.

One of the greatest injustices ever done to workers was at PT! This model of efficiency and profitability was driven into the ground solely by management and the PP Government. These hard working employees who never abused a single perk or benefit were left out to dry by Espinet. Sad that a company that consistently made profits, and the best billion dollar decisions like WGTL, and Samsung had to close, and thus anger caring citizens like Joshie23 and PointMan-IA.

Preach.

[Numb3r4]

Just a thought....haven't heard any Petrotrin workers complain about their compensation package!

Some got goof deals I guess....but many did not.

For those who got they can afford to move on, for those who did not they don't have the time or luxury to complain, they have no choice but to move on.

Those who got job similar to their old one in the new versions of the company, have taken it ultimately because they have little to no other choice, at a drastically reduced salary, often operating on a labour contract that specifies their employment 1 to 2 weeks at a time.

Many have acknowledged that they have been beaten, if not verbally, but you see it, you realize it, and I've seen some of them now and it's a bit sad.

Some are even coming to terms or being forced to come to terms with they fact that they have maybe made the wrong decisions with their lives.




"They can't do we dis" he said, after they had already done it.

[gastly369]

Just a thought....haven't heard any Petrotrin workers complain about their compensation package!

First ask how many actually got "compensated*
Don't believe the idiot on the podium saying "they were generously compensated"...

[car]

Former refinery operator went to the bank wearing only this to protest the foreclosure of his property.

[De Dragon]

One of the greatest injustices ever done to workers was at PT! This model of efficiency and profitability was driven into the ground solely by management and the PP Government. These hard working employees who never abused a single perk or benefit were left out to dry by Espinet. Sad that a company that consistently made profits, and the best billion dollar decisions like WGTL, and Samsung had to close, and thus anger caring citizens like Joshie23 and PointMan-IA.

I was going to ask if you didn't have company shares to be multiplying, but then I realised it was Saturday that you posted. Then again, hard-working, shares-owning employees like you don't take days off. #worldsbestworker

You know, your apparent obsession with the whole Petrotrin situation puts some questions in my mind regarding some personal issues you may have that you haven't yet dealt with. Questions that probably aren't TriniTuner friendly. Feel free to PM me though or even let me know if you want to chat on WhatsApp. My friends and family that were affected by the closure have moved on and they were fired...and your chest still bunning yuh?? This inferiority complex rehhllyy starting to act up hoss. Get help, Dragon. I repeat...GET HELP.

Forgive me if I decline your request for contact and communication, as you have the conversational skills of a large rock. Saturday you say? Clownoso, I work shift, so Saturday is a normal working day for me sometimes. Maybe your PT friends and family used to make a point of not working Saturdays? Your disdain for people who show up for their scheduled workdays says it all about your attitude towards work, which is not surprising given your staunch defence of practices at PT that would never fly anywhere else in the industry.

[Joshie23]

Forgive me if I decline your request for contact and communication, as you have the conversational skills of a large rock. Saturday you say? Clownoso, I work shift, so Saturday is a normal working day for me sometimes. Maybe your PT friends and family used to make a point of not working Saturdays? Your disdain for people who show up for their scheduled workdays says it all about your attitude towards work, which is not surprising given your staunch defence of practices at PT that would never fly anywhere else in the industry.

Ooh. Not just any old rock....but a large one? Your to kind. Or should it be 'you're' and 'too'? Not sure. Maybe your Master's in Communication Studies can assist me. I'm glad you went to work on Saturday. I did too. You're not special. To your statement about my associates 'making a point to not show up to work on Saturdays', a Canadian study showed that over a 20 year period, a consistent 75% of people worked regular, weekday shifts. So statistically, we're in the minority. Maybe you are special after all.

And in response to your point about 'practices that would never fly anywhere else in the industry'...... Ay, Dragon, boy...you got your wish. Petrotrin is closed. You should be happy. Why do you not seem happy? Or is it excessive joy that has you still caught up on the matter?

[Pointman-IA]

De Dragon.

There were Petrotrin workers that worked diligently on Saturdays, just like you.

Are you employed in the oil and gas sector or the hospitality sector?

Playing in the BPL isn't the same as playing in the league over here.

One of the greatest injustices ever done to workers was at PT! This model of efficiency and profitability was driven into the ground solely by management and the PP Government. These hard working employees who never abused a single perk or benefit were left out to dry by Espinet. Sad that a company that consistently made profits, and the best billion dollar decisions like WGTL, and Samsung had to close, and thus anger caring citizens like Joshie23 and PointMan-IA.

I was going to ask if you didn't have company shares to be multiplying, but then I realised it was Saturday that you posted. Then again, hard-working, shares-owning employees like you don't take days off. #worldsbestworker

You know, your apparent obsession with the whole Petrotrin situation puts some questions in my mind regarding some personal issues you may have that you haven't yet dealt with. Questions that probably aren't TriniTuner friendly. Feel free to PM me though or even let me know if you want to chat on WhatsApp. My friends and family that were affected by the closure have moved on and they were fired...and your chest still bunning yuh?? This inferiority complex rehhllyy starting to act up hoss. Get help, Dragon. I repeat...GET HELP.

Forgive me if I decline your request for contact and communication, as you have the conversational skills of a large rock. Saturday you say? Clownoso, I work shift, so Saturday is a normal working day for me sometimes. Maybe your PT friends and family used to make a point of not working Saturdays? Your disdain for people who show up for their scheduled workdays says it all about your attitude towards work, which is not surprising given your staunch defence of practices at PT that would never fly anywhere else in the industry.

[randolphinshan]

Former refinery operator went to the bank wearing only this to protest the foreclosure of his property.

Look at this man nah, no shame. Whilst employed he was making more than triple the national average wage of the majority of workers in this island. Where the money gone now ? Surely he was aware that his wages were highly inflated and unsustainable especially in a floundering company. Time for him to wake up. He already has the coverall, just get a brush cutter now and suffer to survive just as the majority of the working class were doing years ago

[Redman]

Despite all the beat up- we are here....All the stake holders over the last 20 years contributed to where we are today.

Management,Labor,Contractors,Union the political directorate all milked the cow.

And yes the labor and the union component played an on going role in killing the company.

To say anything else is dishonest.

[zoom rader]

Former refinery operator went to the bank wearing only this to protest the foreclosure of his property.

Look at this man nah, no shame. Whilst employed he was making more than triple the national average wage of the majority of workers in this island. Where the money gone now ? Surely he was aware that his wages were highly inflated and unsustainable especially in a floundering company. Time for him to wake up. He already has the coverall, just get a brush cutter now and suffer to survive just as the majority of the working class were doing years ago

Dumb arse an oil worker anywhere in the world always makes more than the agv wage. It's a high skill job and not no goverment clerk or bank job.

In the UK an oil worker makes £4600 agv per month while a goverment employee is at £2300.

Industrial education pays over CXC grade 3 passes.

[zoom rader]

Despite all the beat up- we are here....All the stake holders over the last 20 years contributed to where we are today.

Management,Labor,Contractors,Union the political directorate all milked the cow.

And yes the labor and the union component played an on going role in killing the company.

To say anything else is dishonest.

That's because the unions are owned by PNM

[kstt]

Just a thought....haven't heard any Petrotrin workers complain about their compensation package!

Money still owed. Many "workers" have nothing to complain about because they got nothing. Former workers still waiting for the money that Petrotrin hold back for "BIR" although BIR say they can't do that.

[De Dragon]

De Dragon.

There were Petrotrin workers that worked diligently on Saturdays, just like you.

Are you employed in the oil and gas sector or the hospitality sector?

Playing in the BPL isn't the same as playing in the league over here.

One of the greatest injustices ever done to workers was at PT! This model of efficiency and profitability was driven into the ground solely by management and the PP Government. These hard working employees who never abused a single perk or benefit were left out to dry by Espinet. Sad that a company that consistently made profits, and the best billion dollar decisions like WGTL, and Samsung had to close, and thus anger caring citizens like Joshie23 and PointMan-IA.

I was going to ask if you didn't have company shares to be multiplying, but then I realised it was Saturday that you posted. Then again, hard-working, shares-owning employees like you don't take days off. #worldsbestworker

You know, your apparent obsession with the whole Petrotrin situation puts some questions in my mind regarding some personal issues you may have that you haven't yet dealt with. Questions that probably aren't TriniTuner friendly. Feel free to PM me though or even let me know if you want to chat on WhatsApp. My friends and family that were affected by the closure have moved on and they were fired...and your chest still bunning yuh?? This inferiority complex rehhllyy starting to act up hoss. Get help, Dragon. I repeat...GET HELP.

Forgive me if I decline your request for contact and communication, as you have the conversational skills of a large rock. Saturday you say? Clownoso, I work shift, so Saturday is a normal working day for me sometimes. Maybe your PT friends and family used to make a point of not working Saturdays? Your disdain for people who show up for their scheduled workdays says it all about your attitude towards work, which is not surprising given your staunch defence of practices at PT that would never fly anywhere else in the industry.

I'm employed.
Typical PT worker to attempt to be superior and dismissive of anyone who dares to point out the obvious reasons why PT was failing, and ultimately failed. BPL? What league are you playing in now? 'm sure I'm playing in the league that many of your ex-colleagues are inundating with applications right now. You lost your job and that's tough, but the failure by you and Joshie23 to even acknowledge that a bag of sheit was allowed to happen at PT, is counterproductive.

[De Dragon]

Forgive me if I decline your request for contact and communication, as you have the conversational skills of a large rock. Saturday you say? Clownoso, I work shift, so Saturday is a normal working day for me sometimes. Maybe your PT friends and family used to make a point of not working Saturdays? Your disdain for people who show up for their scheduled workdays says it all about your attitude towards work, which is not surprising given your staunch defence of practices at PT that would never fly anywhere else in the industry.

Ooh. Not just any old rock....but a large one? Your to kind. Or should it be 'you're' and 'too'? Not sure. Maybe your Master's in Communication Studies can assist me. I'm glad you went to work on Saturday. I did too. You're not special. To your statement about my associates 'making a point to not show up to work on Saturdays', a Canadian study showed that over a 20 year period, a consistent 75% of people worked regular, weekday shifts. So statistically, we're in the minority. Maybe you are special after all.

And in response to your point about 'practices that would never fly anywhere else in the industry'...... Ay, Dragon, boy...you got your wish. Petrotrin is closed. You should be happy. Why do you not seem happy? Or is it excessive joy that has you still caught up on the matter?

Dummy, do you know what the little hook with the dot thingy at the end of a sentence means? Even a Standard One student could tell you that, far less someone with a Masters in Communication. Your time would be better spent availing yourself of the counselling that PT offered, where you can work on letting go of your bitterness and resentful feelings.

[zoom rader]

I fed up tell men, don't stay in the same job for more than 5 years. Keep moving improve yourself. Market yourself.

Learn to read the company and what bullchit is taking place. Know when to exit. Working for a company is like riding stocks and shares, you have to know when to leave.

If you do get a promotion in the same company count it as a new job and give that a 5 year plan. No improvement then ride out.

There is no employee loyalty, it's all bullchit. An employer don't care two chits about you as you can be replaced on a snap of the finger.

[The_Honourable]

I fed up tell men, don't stay in the same job for more than 5 years. Keep moving improve yourself. Market yourself.

Learn to read the company and what bullchit is taking place. Know when to exit. Working for a company is like riding stocks and shares, you have to know when to leave.

If you do get a promotion in the same company count it as a new job and give that a 5 year plan. No improvement then ride out.

There is no employee loyalty, it's all bullchit. An employer don't care two chits about you as you can be replaced on a snap of the finger.

Good advice Zoom, i'll keep that in mind.

[Numb3r4]

I fed up tell men, don't stay in the same job for more than 5 years. Keep moving improve yourself. Market yourself.

Learn to read the company and what bullchit is taking place. Know when to exit. Working for a company is like riding stocks and shares, you have to know when to leave.

If you do get a promotion in the same company count it as a new job and give that a 5 year plan. No improvement then ride out.

There is no employee loyalty, it's all bullchit. An employer don't care two chits about you as you can be replaced on a snap of the finger.

Agreed.

In a way this can also be applied to a person's experience with political parties.

Good info./advice

[Pointman-IA]

Nice response Zoom.

Or in the same job position for more than 3 years that can make one stagnant.

I fed up tell men, don't stay in the same job for more than 5 years. Keep moving improve yourself. Market yourself.

Learn to read the company and what bullchit is taking place. Know when to exit. Working for a company is like riding stocks and shares, you have to know when to leave.

If you do get a promotion in the same company count it as a new job and give that a 5 year plan. No improvement then ride out.

There is no employee loyalty, it's all bullchit. An employer don't care two chits about you as you can be replaced on a snap of the finger.

[Pointman-IA]

I am playing in a league.

De Dragon.

There were Petrotrin workers that worked diligently on Saturdays, just like you.

Are you employed in the oil and gas sector or the hospitality sector?

Playing in the BPL isn't the same as playing in the league over here.

One of the greatest injustices ever done to workers was at PT! This model of efficiency and profitability was driven into the ground solely by management and the PP Government. These hard working employees who never abused a single perk or benefit were left out to dry by Espinet. Sad that a company that consistently made profits, and the best billion dollar decisions like WGTL, and Samsung had to close, and thus anger caring citizens like Joshie23 and PointMan-IA.

I was going to ask if you didn't have company shares to be multiplying, but then I realised it was Saturday that you posted. Then again, hard-working, shares-owning employees like you don't take days off. #worldsbestworker

You know, your apparent obsession with the whole Petrotrin situation puts some questions in my mind regarding some personal issues you may have that you haven't yet dealt with. Questions that probably aren't TriniTuner friendly. Feel free to PM me though or even let me know if you want to chat on WhatsApp. My friends and family that were affected by the closure have moved on and they were fired...and your chest still bunning yuh?? This inferiority complex rehhllyy starting to act up hoss. Get help, Dragon. I repeat...GET HELP.

Forgive me if I decline your request for contact and communication, as you have the conversational skills of a large rock. Saturday you say? Clownoso, I work shift, so Saturday is a normal working day for me sometimes. Maybe your PT friends and family used to make a point of not working Saturdays? Your disdain for people who show up for their scheduled workdays says it all about your attitude towards work, which is not surprising given your staunch defence of practices at PT that would never fly anywhere else in the industry.

I'm employed.
Typical PT worker to attempt to be superior and dismissive of anyone who dares to point out the obvious reasons why PT was failing, and ultimately failed. BPL? What league are you playing in now? 'm sure I'm playing in the league that many of your ex-colleagues are inundating with applications right now. You lost your job and that's tough, but the failure by you and Joshie23 to even acknowledge that a bag of sheit was allowed to happen at PT, is counterproductive.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

[Pointman-IA]

Is that who I think it is?

:agrue:

[jhonnieblue]

Former refinery operator went to the bank wearing only this to protest the foreclosure of his property.

Look at this man nah, no shame. Whilst employed he was making more than triple the national average wage of the majority of workers in this island. Where the money gone now ? Surely he was aware that his wages were highly inflated and unsustainable especially in a floundering company. Time for him to wake up. He already has the coverall, just get a brush cutter now and suffer to survive just as the majority of the working class were doing years ago

Dumb arse an oil worker anywhere in the world always makes more than the agv wage. It's a high skill job and not no goverment clerk or bank job.

In the UK an oil worker makes £4600 agv per month while a goverment employee is at £2300.

Industrial education pays over CXC grade 3 passes.

When people don’t know the whole story it’s easy to twist it to suit ones needs lol.

This guy here is off his rocker. Not the first time he has done this. He went mad while working petrotrin. Pulled this exact stunt before and assaulted some bank staff back in the day and petrotrin wanted to fire him. He’s been warded due to mental instability etc. so no he is not prostrating for job loss etc. it just makes a good story as he has on the coverall.

[zoom rader]

Nice response Zoom.

Or in the same job position for more than 3 years that can make one stagnant.

I fed up tell men, don't stay in the same job for more than 5 years. Keep moving improve yourself. Market yourself.

Learn to read the company and what bullchit is taking place. Know when to exit. Working for a company is like riding stocks and shares, you have to know when to leave.

If you do get a promotion in the same company count it as a new job and give that a 5 year plan. No improvement then ride out.

There is no employee loyalty, it's all bullchit. An employer don't care two chits about you as you can be replaced on a snap of the finger.

In every job give yourself a 5 year plan. Work towards that promotion, show you can do the job. At the same time always keep learning, do an education upgrade and lean new skills.

If at the end of the 5 years the company fails to reconsise you then start looking.

The longest I have ever worked in a company was 11 years and that's because I had two promotions in that time frame. At that time I knew the company was making hugh profits and telling workers due to the global financial meltdown (2008) they freezing pay increases (4 yrs). This is a company that sells in US and pays in TT. So I read the bullchit, other workers was pretty smart and they did education upgrades and left around that same time frame as I did. The company could not careless cause there was always 10 men they could find on the go. As men left the reliability and operation took a dip as the skills left. Companies don't care they glad when you leave cause if they pay you 10G the guy that takes your job will get 5G.


The only time you could be stuck in a job and have to take the BS is if you have a morage and heavy loans. But as we see you can still end up without a job as with PT.

The question is do I change jobs when I have a morage/heavy loans? At the end of the day NO job is secure. You have keep moving to pay off your debts. There is no such thing as job security.

Companies expect employees will leave and they always have plans for when happens. In the UK staying in one job is seen as you have no ambition.

[gastly369]

Nooooo job is permanent....even if it has the "name" to it..