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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby Chimera » September 26th, 2017, 10:49 pm

Specialist Baboons wrote:
Zetski wrote:
Specialist Baboons wrote:
Zetski wrote:Aripo savannah will be fine.. not like they destroying it.. we need this highway! allyuh acting like allyuh care about the environment now.. when allyuh flinging yuh bottles and wrappers out d window.

How will the savannah not be destroyed if the highway is being constructed through it??


Valencia stretch.. yuh see any of d forest damaged? what sheit yuh asking me? a lil highway ain't gonna cause harm to anything.

So this highway just gonna magically appear THROUGH the aripo savannah without destroying it’s natural ecosystem?
You do know that the savannah was declared an environmentally sensitive area!

Baboon. We here in Trinidad eh rly business but environment . Our ema are toothless dogs in any event. So before yuh end up on the wrong side of a monkey hand pelau.....know wha yuh doing

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby The_Honourable » September 26th, 2017, 10:55 pm

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pete wrote:Isn't the goal to put a ferry terminal in Toco? So right now the roads may be adequate for current traffic but if you add that increase they won't be able to cope.

Exactly.

If the ferry terminal moves to Toco, the distance traveled will drop from 161 kms to 46 kms. You will cut the time to travel by at least half and the number of trips possible per ferry will double. The cost to carry goods will drop and the number of people likely to travel will likely increase.

All of the traffic that is heading in to POS for the ferry starts driving through Sangre Grande. You need a road. (And the traffic in Port of Spain improves.)


That idea is for the Valencia to Toco highway which is carded for April 2018. This highway is different and separate.

StreetbeastInc and Daran are correct, no need to build this highway at the moment. Fix the roads and deal with squatters. Priority should be the Valencia to Toco highway since that makes sense if you are planning to build a Toco Port/Ferry service (multipurpose) and develop the tourism sector of the area.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=668776

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby adnj » September 27th, 2017, 7:07 am

My error in the last paragraph.

Traffic will be heading through Valencia and slowing traffic flow to Sangre Grande.

I won't debate priorities but a bypass to Sangre Grande looks more than logical.

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 27th, 2017, 7:24 am

streetbeastINC. wrote:unc not even making a fuss cuzz i am sure they got contracts under some hidden scheme


well yuh a see Bhagaloo in the background...wah yuh expect

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby kstt » September 27th, 2017, 7:43 am

Zetski wrote:
Specialist Baboons wrote:
Zetski wrote:Aripo savannah will be fine.. not like they destroying it.. we need this highway! allyuh acting like allyuh care about the environment now.. when allyuh flinging yuh bottles and wrappers out d window.

How will the savannah not be destroyed if the highway is being constructed through it??


Valencia stretch.. yuh see any of d forest damaged? what sheit yuh asking me? a lil highway ain't gonna cause harm to anything.


U don't think there was forest where the road now is?

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby Paw Patrol » September 27th, 2017, 8:25 am

I hear Kublalsing and Jenifer Lawrence linking up for some hunger games

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby De Dragon » September 27th, 2017, 9:04 am

kstt wrote:
Zetski wrote:
Specialist Baboons wrote:
Zetski wrote:Aripo savannah will be fine.. not like they destroying it.. we need this highway! allyuh acting like allyuh care about the environment now.. when allyuh flinging yuh bottles and wrappers out d window.

How will the savannah not be destroyed if the highway is being constructed through it??


Valencia stretch.. yuh see any of d forest damaged? what sheit yuh asking me? a lil highway ain't gonna cause harm to anything.


U don't think there was forest where the road now is?

Jetski and elite and dem have Roundabout Rohan who apparently is a land Moses who does part forest with a wave ah he hand :|

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby Monkey Man » September 27th, 2017, 2:01 pm

Zetski wrote:
Specialist Baboons wrote:
Zetski wrote:Aripo savannah will be fine.. not like they destroying it.. we need this highway! allyuh acting like allyuh care about the environment now.. when allyuh flinging yuh bottles and wrappers out d window.

How will the savannah not be destroyed if the highway is being constructed through it??


Valencia stretch.. yuh see any of d forest damaged? what sheit yuh asking me? a lil highway ain't gonna cause harm to anything.


palos i find you disrespectful to the Primate Alliance eh.

i will jump on yuh and ride yuh eh jetski.

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby RedVEVO » September 27th, 2017, 2:36 pm

streetbeastINC. wrote:lol......the area does not need the highway,,,,,are you an idiot??? have you seen the level of squatting within the valencia and toco reserves with roads come settlement, gardening bushfires, cutting off wildlife with the roads seperating further species........either u a party stooge, a dunce or you are benefitting financially......


Zetski is Scafy other outside bush baby childe ..

And she duncey like Daddy ..

All the Monkey will be affected by this H'way .. sad sad

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby ElSoc » September 28th, 2017, 12:40 am

The_Honourable wrote:
adnj wrote:
pete wrote:Isn't the goal to put a ferry terminal in Toco? So right now the roads may be adequate for current traffic but if you add that increase they won't be able to cope.

Exactly.

If the ferry terminal moves to Toco, the distance traveled will drop from 161 kms to 46 kms. You will cut the time to travel by at least half and the number of trips possible per ferry will double. The cost to carry goods will drop and the number of people likely to travel will likely increase.

All of the traffic that is heading in to POS for the ferry starts driving through Sangre Grande. You need a road. (And the traffic in Port of Spain improves.)


That idea is for the Valencia to Toco highway which is carded for April 2018. This highway is different and separate.

StreetbeastInc and Daran are correct, no need to build this highway at the moment. Fix the roads and deal with squatters. Priority should be the Valencia to Toco highway since that makes sense if you are planning to build a Toco Port/Ferry service (multipurpose) and develop the tourism sector of the area.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=668776


Then where would cars go after travelling 100km/h down from Toco to Valencia? Just back to the existing roads? The opening of a port and the Toco-Valencia highway is bound to increase traffic by a substantial amount. The existing roads may not be able to handle that volume of traffic. So while I agree a highway is not needed all the way to Manzanilla I do believe the first segment from Cumuto junction bypassing Grande and ending at the proposed commencement site of the Toco-Valencia highway is needed.

My only qualm is where does this traffic now go? What is the point of having a freeway from Toco- Cumuto then having people go back through traffic lights until Valsayn. Why not make the Churchill highway a grade separated freeway in its entirety before embarking on this new project? I know there is the issue of land acquistion etc but it should be dealt with. Where possible (e.g Piarco/Trincity) interchanges can be constructed until land is acquired in the more difficult areas like UWI etc.

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby The_Honourable » September 28th, 2017, 2:27 am

ElSoc wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
adnj wrote:
pete wrote:Isn't the goal to put a ferry terminal in Toco? So right now the roads may be adequate for current traffic but if you add that increase they won't be able to cope.

Exactly.

If the ferry terminal moves to Toco, the distance traveled will drop from 161 kms to 46 kms. You will cut the time to travel by at least half and the number of trips possible per ferry will double. The cost to carry goods will drop and the number of people likely to travel will likely increase.

All of the traffic that is heading in to POS for the ferry starts driving through Sangre Grande. You need a road. (And the traffic in Port of Spain improves.)


That idea is for the Valencia to Toco highway which is carded for April 2018. This highway is different and separate.

StreetbeastInc and Daran are correct, no need to build this highway at the moment. Fix the roads and deal with squatters. Priority should be the Valencia to Toco highway since that makes sense if you are planning to build a Toco Port/Ferry service (multipurpose) and develop the tourism sector of the area.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=668776


Then where would cars go after travelling 100km/h down from Toco to Valencia? Just back to the existing roads? The opening of a port and the Toco-Valencia highway is bound to increase traffic by a substantial amount. The existing roads may not be able to handle that volume of traffic. So while I agree a highway is not needed all the way to Manzanilla I do believe the first segment from Cumuto junction bypassing Grande and ending at the proposed commencement site of the Toco-Valencia highway is needed.

My only qualm is where does this traffic now go? What is the point of having a freeway from Toco- Cumuto then having people go back through traffic lights until Valsayn. Why not make the Churchill highway a grade separated freeway in its entirety before embarking on this new project? I know there is the issue of land acquistion etc but it should be dealt with. Where possible (e.g Piarco/Trincity) interchanges can be constructed until land is acquired in the more difficult areas like UWI etc.


We don't have a location as yet on where the proposed Valencia to Toco highway will start. The map that i uploaded here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=668776&start=30#p9595104 shows that it will begin at the end of the Churchill Roosevelt Highway near the Cumuto Barracks but nothing has been finalized as yet.

From the different maps that I have seen, it seems that when the projects are completed this is going to happen. When you reach the end of the Churchill Roosevelt Highway by Valencia, you will be met with an interchange that would split the highway into two. One highway will go North East which is the Valencia to Toco highway wheras the other highway will go south past Wallerfield towards the train line near Aripo Savannah and continue east towards Sangre Grande into Manzanilla (Manzanilla Highway).

I agree with you on the interchanges from Curepe heading east.

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby sMASH » September 28th, 2017, 4:19 am

Will that highway be passing close to the turtle nesting sites, enough where the lights and sounds will impact them?

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby ElSoc » September 28th, 2017, 8:36 am

The_Honourable wrote:We don't have a location as yet on where the proposed Valencia to Toco highway will start. The map that i uploaded here: that it will begin at the end of the Churchill Roosevelt Highway near the Cumuto Barracks but nothing has been finalized as yet.

From the different maps that I have seen, it seems that when the projects are completed this is going to happen. When you reach the end of the Churchill Roosevelt Highway by Valencia, you will be met with an interchange that would split the highway into two. One highway will go North East which is the Valencia to Toco highway wheras the other highway will go south past Wallerfield towards the train line near Aripo Savannah and continue east towards Sangre Grande into Manzanilla (Manzanilla Highway).

I agree with you on the interchanges from Curepe heading east.


Thanks for the heads up then maybe a highway wouldn't be needed as yet but considering the highway from Toco may bring development to the East and especially Grande it may be wise to at least have a highway to Grande and end it there. A good primary connector road, possibly dualled, could serve Manzanilla just fine from there.

I hope the plan is to construct interchanges along the present stretch of highway, I know it was some years ago but now... I dunno

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby originalbling » September 28th, 2017, 10:05 am

Where possible (e.g Piarco/Trincity) interchanges can be constructed until land is acquired in the more difficult areas like UWI etc.


Do a search.... there were plans from many years ago I believe when John Humphrey was minister to remove alot of those traffic lights and replace with interchanges.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 28th, 2017, 2:46 pm

the irony of rowly telling people of massive cutbacks due to the economic situation and then proposing a multi billion dollar highway is just mind blowing

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby Monkey Man » September 28th, 2017, 2:48 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:the irony of rowly telling people of massive cutbacks due to the economic situation and then proposing a multi billion dollar highway is just mind blowing


he true colours starting to show under pressure. Just a lil while again for him to tell us to "hosh allyuh stink cnut"

wait and see.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 28th, 2017, 2:50 pm

and respond by saying it was taken out of context...

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby Zetski » September 28th, 2017, 4:07 pm

Monkey Man wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:the irony of rowly telling people of massive cutbacks due to the economic situation and then proposing a multi billion dollar highway is just mind blowing


he true colours starting to show under pressure. Just a lil while again for him to tell us to "hosh allyuh stink cnut"

wait and see.


he must be under pressure after how Kamla leave d country.. allyuh too wasteful.

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby Dizzy28 » September 28th, 2017, 4:30 pm

Zetski wrote:
Monkey Man wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:the irony of rowly telling people of massive cutbacks due to the economic situation and then proposing a multi billion dollar highway is just mind blowing


he true colours starting to show under pressure. Just a lil while again for him to tell us to "hosh allyuh stink cnut"

wait and see.


he must be under pressure after how Kamla leave d country.. allyuh too wasteful.


:D :D

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby De Dragon » September 28th, 2017, 5:33 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Zetski wrote:
Monkey Man wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:the irony of rowly telling people of massive cutbacks due to the economic situation and then proposing a multi billion dollar highway is just mind blowing


he true colours starting to show under pressure. Just a lil while again for him to tell us to "hosh allyuh stink cnut"

wait and see.


he must be under pressure after how Kamla leave d country.. allyuh too wasteful.


:D :D

Yet another clueless PNM fanboy who chooses to believe that bull..................

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Postby Zetski » September 28th, 2017, 6:19 pm

Wait till oct2 then we'd see who clueless..

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 28th, 2017, 6:54 pm

two years later and you are still swallowing that garbage...it shows you are a special kind of stupid^...oct 2 will show what PNM is known for :taxation and devaluation...that's all...I am still waiting for you to highlight an achievement from this gov't..

let's say for argument sake, KAMLA thief out the money..fine...how did Panday manage the economy on $9 per barrel of oil???
also I am seeking how you justify your PM saying the treasury empty and we need to tighten every fcking thing...but he building this highway for billions...How in the blue fck is this common sense???? How do you live with this level of dostishness?

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Postby AstonMartV » September 28th, 2017, 8:07 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:two years later and you are still swallowing that garbage...it shows you are a special kind of stupid^...

How do you live with this level of dostishness?


Bai some of them just born so...dotish and will forever be dotish. Is all the shiz Growley feeding them. They can’t help it. That’s all they have to eat when their head so far up the PNM ass

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Postby sMASH » September 28th, 2017, 10:02 pm

Zetski wrote:Wait till oct2 then we'd see who clueless..

U does swallow.... That pnm kool-aid

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby The_Honourable » September 28th, 2017, 11:23 pm

Zetski wrote:
Monkey Man wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:the irony of rowly telling people of massive cutbacks due to the economic situation and then proposing a multi billion dollar highway is just mind blowing


he true colours starting to show under pressure. Just a lil while again for him to tell us to "hosh allyuh stink cnut"

wait and see.


he must be under pressure after how Kamla leave d country.. allyuh too wasteful.


Ahh yes the "Kamla teef out allll d mohnee" excuse by PNM supporters :lol:

allyuh sad we. Mugabe could be the leader of the PNM and allyuh will make excuse for him.

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Re: Churchill Roosevelt Highway Extension to Manzanilla (CRHEM) Project.

Postby The_Honourable » September 28th, 2017, 11:24 pm

With growing concern about the award of another multi-million dollar contract to Kallco, Works Minister Rohan Sinanan is denying any claims of nepotism.


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Postby Daran » September 29th, 2017, 6:34 am

The_Honourable wrote:With growing concern about the award of another multi-million dollar contract to Kallco, Works Minister Rohan Sinanan is denying any claims of nepotism.



Rohan's sister's daughter is married to the owner of Kalco.

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Postby Dizzy28 » September 29th, 2017, 6:44 am

Daran wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:With growing concern about the award of another multi-million dollar contract to Kallco, Works Minister Rohan Sinanan is denying any claims of nepotism.



Rohan's sister's daughter is married to the owner of Kalco.

Of equal concern is Rohan's sarobhai is the managing director or Kallco and a former director of highways.

Same man was bashing PNM on Facebook a few weeks ago.

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Postby hydroep » September 29th, 2017, 6:50 am

Save us from corruption Keith, save us...:|

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Postby Daran » September 29th, 2017, 6:52 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
Daran wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:With growing concern about the award of another multi-million dollar contract to Kallco, Works Minister Rohan Sinanan is denying any claims of nepotism.



Rohan's sister's daughter is married to the owner of Kalco.

Of equal concern is Rohan's sarobhai is the managing director or Kallco and a former director of highways.

Same man was bashing PNM on Facebook a few weeks ago.


You mean RG? he's a nutcase and totally forgot about him...... Man this is nepotism to a next level here.

No biggie right PNMites???? brb just awarding a contract to my sister husband and he daughter husband.

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