State vs Contractors - Bid rigging at EMBD, EFCL & HDC

[Ben_spanna]

Theres a piece of pavement close to be about 30' long in total, certain company got that contract- boxed on top of the road, did not remove any grass and just poured concrete on top of that for a pavement- and heard it costed the taxpayers $ million dollars. what a KA-tastrophy that job was............ but you know everyone LLooking and not Commenting.

government bobl goes on, firetruck the public and no one cares.......

[SimSimmer69]

This is one pathetic attempt at a distraction from that oppressive budget...

It's responses like these that would continue us down the path of consistently being a Banana Republic.

[Redman]

Well based on the full conference...they have their stuff in order.
And they now will look at the 400 m highway.

I guess a civil result against a contracting co isn't sufficient to terminate the contract....when or if it happen.

[Zetski]

if is one thing this government good at doing is creating smokescreens....when was the ferry fiasco, they come out with A&V drilling, when was A&V drilling they launch the budget, budget done....time to try and sue Moonilal...

This situation with Moonilal has been going on for some months Rowley hinted about it before heading to the US for his check up and the Facebook UNC group loyalist erupted about how Rowley controlling the police. There is no smoke screen. If it was then u would also be calling the PNM member who was suspended recently pending investigation a smoke screen too. I heard it has to do with the ferry fiasco and him being the one offering Mark Basant a bribe. The office of the AG is actually doing their jobs. Pretry sure if moonilal takes the fall it will be another conspiracy of an innocent man being victimized like Anand Ramlogan and Ian Allyene.
It seems everyone clamors everyday for the corrupt to be brought to justice but when the due process is followed and its to close to home they are defended as martyrs.

The courts will decide their fate don't prejudice the process based on party lines.

Ahahahahahaha "innocent" he and Jack is d same thing

[toyolink]

Looks like a Malcolm Jones kinda a ting and if PNM looses next election, it just goes away.
What the out come always looks like is tax payers take another hit in legal fees.

[kstt]

This is the worst diversion or distraction yet to get people to forget the spying allegations brought against the AG. It was even brought against the AG by none other than Moonilal. It is amazing how the PNM has these cases/shots to buss on standby to wait until UNC brings something against them.

Seem like it worked for us fools cause I not hearing about the AG spying case any more.

[kstt]

$200 million they chasing for poor work but forgot about $100 million in fake oil!

[Monkey Man]

hey kstt guy, where u feel that $100 million is????

[kstt]

Strange that Young would host this news conference at the AG office and NOT THE AG himself, was the AG afraid of the media questioning about his spying allegations?

[Specialist Baboons]

This is the worst diversion or distraction yet to get people to forget the spying allegations brought against the AG. It was even brought against the AG by none other than Moonilal. It is amazing how the PNM has these cases/shots to buss on standby to wait until UNC brings something against them.

Seem like it worked for us fools cause I not hearing about the AG spying case any more.

Exactly, took the words from my mouth kstt.

But on a serious note if they were investigating these contractors for a while now, how come the government still award KALLCO the contract to construct the highway????

[Monkey Man]

it is all about doing as they please. A government of a bunch thugs if you ask me.

[Redman]

What's the grounds for DQ ing Kallco?

While I get the distasteful nature of it....isn't Kalco YET to be found guilty on any of the investigation s??????

[Dizzy28]

What's the grounds for DQ ing Kallco?

While I get the distasteful nature of it....isn't Kalco YET to be found guilty on any of the investigation s??????

A reference check doesn't require hard evidence and or being found guilty in a court of law, just the word of the referee. I'm guessing Kallco used neither EMBD nor Min of Tourism as their references. Or Min of Works didn't bother to check with either or just left out the past references section in their tender.

[Miktay]

Ah yes...the pappy show called Big Gubbament continues.

Thiz time so...all the UNC...PNM members & contractors drinking JW Blue and laughing at how the gullible and dotish electorate can be so easily distracted and divided.

We like it so.

[toyolink]

If this is a civil matter and not criminal, it will really be interesting to see the evidence and supporting witnesses to go into the 'box'.
Many have suggested that this approach is quick, but the process does allow for a lot of administrative nonsense and 6 years is nothing for a first decision and then the possibility of appeals.
The courts would still rely on solid evidence and serious examination of same.
We are being blessed with a period of all kinds of actions and allegations with little positive work to deal with our current real stresses.

[SR]

Ah wonder if stuart little would return to the calder hart case to recover monies lossed

[Redman]

What's the grounds for DQ ing Kallco?

While I get the distasteful nature of it....isn't Kalco YET to be found guilty on any of the investigation s??????

A reference check doesn't require hard evidence and or being found guilty in a court of law, just the word of the referee. I'm guessing Kallco used neither EMBD nor Min of Tourism as their references. Or Min of Works didn't bother to check with either or just left out the past references section in their tender.

I'm not endorsing...Kalco and it's directors should be flogged just for Maracas.
But we all know that they would cry foul, and go to court if the allegations were used to DQ from tender.

Sadly it's the same proven guilty concept shifting is again.

[boxy]

What's the grounds for DQ ing Kallco?

While I get the distasteful nature of it....isn't Kalco YET to be found guilty on any of the investigation s??????

A reference check doesn't require hard evidence and or being found guilty in a court of law, just the word of the referee. I'm guessing Kallco used neither EMBD nor Min of Tourism as their references. Or Min of Works didn't bother to check with either or just left out the past references section in their tender.

I'm not endorsing...Kalco and it's directors should be flogged just for Maracas.
But we all know that they would cry foul, and go to court if the allegations were used to DQ from tender.

Sadly it's the same proven guilty concept shifting is again.

The minister is never and should not be directly be responsible for contractors and or it's tendering process. Come to think of it that's why Moonilal in this bachannal right now coincidentally. There is nothing stopping KALLCO from tendering they fit all requirements as per the UDECOTT tendering process and won by default due to them being the cheapest $400million it should be even more shocking to find out who were the other contractors who lost to this process due to being more expensive. It's amazing how these big contractors have inflated the cost of construction over the years it's sickening. But I guess it's more politically enticing to clamor about the fact that he is the Minister of works family. KALLCO in my opinion should never have an opportunity to get another contract because of Maracas and how they balls it up and that was under the previous administration.

Oh well Carry on about it being a smoke screen even when they are doing exactly what we always quarreling about with regards to corruption. I guess only when your side smells like the rose is when u accept justice.

[wickedtuna]

Kallco might turn state witness after $400 million contract $$$$$$$$$

[Sōsuke Aizen]

This is what gonna happen like it has always been happening.. money pass and fiasco done!

[bluefete]

Why de Pee on Dem doh leave Moneylal (US$) and his vault alone.

[linton]

if is one thing this government good at doing is creating smokescreens....when was the ferry fiasco, they come out with A&V drilling, when was A&V drilling they launch the budget, budget done....time to try and sue Moonilal...

This situation with Moonilal has been going on for some months Rowley hinted about it before heading to the US for his check up and the Facebook UNC group loyalist erupted about how Rowley controlling the police. There is no smoke screen. If it was then u would also be calling the PNM member who was suspended recently pending investigation a smoke screen too. I heard it has to do with the ferry fiasco and him being the one offering Mark Basant a bribe. The office of the AG is actually doing their jobs. Pretry sure if moonilal takes the fall it will be another conspiracy of an innocent man being victimized like Anand Ramlogan and Ian Allyene.
It seems everyone clamors everyday for the corrupt to be brought to justice but when the due process is followed and its to close to home they are defended as martyrs.

The courts will decide their fate don't prejudice the process based on party lines.

Ahahahahahaha "innocent" he and Jack is d same thing

and Harry Ragoonanan and Calder Hart and Camille and Rowley and A&V and Franklin and Al Rawi in laws and Shamfa and Darryl and....................

[boxy]

Camille? Rowley? Really? Buss d mark nah boy

[Paw Patrol]

hey guys I am looking for a work. Can any body help get any kinda of apprenticship in the east area?

[Numb3r4]

hey guys I am looking for a work. Can any body help get any kinda of apprenticship in the east area?

Ask Moonilal......

[Specialist Baboons]

As I said previously it’s not ole news that kallco and others were being investigated.
This is the same party that bashed kallco left right and center when PP was in power.
Aren’t they the same contractors who left Maracas in a hot stinking mess and the works were incomplete.
What criteria was used by NIDCO to recommend Kallco for the highway project.
The Minister of Works wasn’t aware that the Office of the AG was pursuing a matter against said company????

[moses_boss12]

if is one thing this government good at doing is creating smokescreens....when was the ferry fiasco, they come out with A&V drilling, when was A&V drilling they launch the budget, budget done....time to try and sue Moonilal...

This situation with Moonilal has been going on for some months Rowley hinted about it before heading to the US for his check up and the Facebook UNC group loyalist erupted about how Rowley controlling the police. There is no smoke screen. If it was then u would also be calling the PNM member who was suspended recently pending investigation a smoke screen too. I heard it has to do with the ferry fiasco and him being the one offering Mark Basant a bribe. The office of the AG is actually doing their jobs. Pretry sure if moonilal takes the fall it will be another conspiracy of an innocent man being victimized like Anand Ramlogan and Ian Allyene.
It seems everyone clamors everyday for the corrupt to be brought to justice but when the due process is followed and its to close to home they are defended as martyrs.

The courts will decide their fate don't prejudice the process based on party lines.

The accuracy here is just WOW!!

[boxy]

As I said previously it’s not ole news that kallco and others were being investigated.
This is the same party that bashed kallco left right and center when PP was in power.
Aren’t they the same contractors who left Maracas in a hot stinking mess and the works were incomplete.
What criteria was used by NIDCO to recommend Kallco for the highway project.
The Minister of Works wasn’t aware that the Office of the AG was pursuing a matter against said company????

Lol I love to read people in the ole talk thread try to ice common logic on things that have strict procedures and laws. It does not matter if they balls up in a previous project my friend what matters is the tender package they submitted is detailed from cover to cover on the logistics of constructing the highway and the amount of money being used and where. A company doesn't simply stick a peice of paper in a box saying 400m in the tender box for the contract.
The minister is never AND SHOULD NOT be involved. There are aristocrats such as engineers and other professionals who are just normal employees like you and me who are paid within the state company be it UDECOTT or whoever who peruse and determine that this is the correct which has value for money and using the correct tools equipment. It is sometimes these individuals who tend to also be corrupt and receive kick backs. These are the said individuals who currently have the PATT in the situation it is in today.
When a Minister gets involved in this process he or she should be dealt with accordingly which is what Moonilal is allegedly being taken to court for. Money and paper trail does not lie.

P. S kallo barely got contracts in the PP govt SIS. Got the bashing and it was from Jack Warner (ILP)

[Dizzy28]

As I said previously it’s not ole news that kallco and others were being investigated.
This is the same party that bashed kallco left right and center when PP was in power.
Aren’t they the same contractors who left Maracas in a hot stinking mess and the works were incomplete.
What criteria was used by NIDCO to recommend Kallco for the highway project.
The Minister of Works wasn’t aware that the Office of the AG was pursuing a matter against said company????

Lol I love to read people in the ole talk thread try to ice common logic on things that have strict procedures and laws. It does not matter if they balls up in a previous project my friend what matters is the tender package they submitted is detailed from cover to cover on the logistics of constructing the highway and the amount of money being used and where. A company doesn't simply stick a peice of paper in a box saying 400m in the tender box for the contract.
The minister is never AND SHOULD NOT be involved. There are aristocrats such as engineers and other professionals who are just normal employees like you and me who are paid within the state company be it UDECOTT or whoever who peruse and determine that this is the correct which has value for money and using the correct tools equipment. It is sometimes these individuals who tend to also be corrupt and receive kick backs. These are the said individuals who currently have the PATT in the situation it is in today.
When a Minister gets involved in this process he or she should be dealt with accordingly which is what Moonilal is allegedly being taken to court for. Money and paper trail does not lie.

P. S kallo barely got contracts in the PP govt SIS. Got the bashing and it was from Jack Warner (ILP)

Aristocrats -

Technocrats - the guys that work in the Ministry/state enterprise etc

[boxy]

Thanks for the correction lol that word sticks in my head head instead of technocrats for some reason but I hope the dude understands how the process works.