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Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:Mikela would be like a Rowley; a viable candidate by default.
I remember the days when I was not disgusted by local politics and going to the Aranguez Savannah in hot sun to a UNC rally. At this rally Panday introduced a young gentleman recently returning from the Netherlands with a PhD. He was introduced as the future the UNC.
Today that individual sits in Parliament with a civil suit against him plus all the allegations about corrupt practices and incidents that happened during his 5 years as a Minister (a lot of which I do believe).
We will argue all we want about different parties but at the end of the day all them sitting in Waterfront with thier bread buttered(with plenty of that butter being the country's money hidden in offshore accounts) and we still have to fight up to live. I don't believe any meaningful change will happen in either party without sme great upheaval/disturbance.
The proverbial outlier has to take over and wipe the slate clean and recreate the rules.
So it seems as though she purposely resigned to get a fresh mandate so her slate/faction will all be voted into the executive via the "omg this candidate is under Aunt Kams logo I hadda vote for him/her a vote for him/her is a vote for kind caring for the people Aunty Kams"shake d livin wake d dead wrote:imo Kams should step aside as leader but remain as MP for her area..hopefully all their bachannal within the party doesn't turn into something like what went wrong when COP was formed..we do not need another party split at the poles..
anybody bu Moneylal and Sewage could be leader
You see that's what alot of people are fooled with bro. Kamla PRETENDED to be loyal to Bas. That's another reason her supporters will not let her go they see her as a soft spoken kind beyond reproach individual which is true to a point. But her political intellect superceded that and u have to be within her inner circle to know how cunning she was back then. Jack actually himself was played by her he may not admit it fully though he has hinted at it many a time. She screwed up in alot of her appointments as PM then again there were little to choose from within the bunch of smart men around her which caused mass firings and reshuffles. But imagine after all of that she came out untainted and fresher than a rose. It was no accident that they made the 2015 election about one name KAMLA2015 and not UNC Or the Partnership for that matter.airuma wrote:Maybe we should start a "KPB step down inducement fund".
IMHO, Panday was the "best of the lot" with Manning coming in second.... all personal emotions aside that is.
Vasant is the best option, he was treated unfairly (moved him to another seat, change to agriculture minister) by the UNC, probably because he was seen as a Bas boy.
Mickela will be made to carry all of her father's baggage and then all of the missteps of the UNC will resurface by the UNC since they suffer from the "crab in a bucket" syndrome.
Kamla was assisted by Jack to become political leader of the UNC. He and Ramesh pulled the support of those who wanted change while Kamla remained loyal to Bas.... then Jack pulled the carpet on Ramesh and passed the support to Kamla while Kamla pulled the carpet on Bas....
airuma wrote:Maybe we should start a "KPB step down inducement fund".
IMHO, Panday was the "best of the lot" with Manning coming in second.... all personal emotions aside that is.
Vasant is the best option, he was treated unfairly (moved him to another seat, change to agriculture minister) by the UNC, probably because he was seen as a Bas boy.
Mickela will be made to carry all of her father's baggage and then all of the missteps of the UNC will resurface by the UNC since they suffer from the "crab in a bucket" syndrome.
Kamla was assisted by Jack to become political leader of the UNC. He and Ramesh pulled the support of those who wanted change while Kamla remained loyal to Bas.... then Jack pulled the carpet on Ramesh and passed the support to Kamla while Kamla pulled the carpet on Bas....
The_Honourable wrote:d kuchoor start
Ganga Singh: UNC's announcement on election of party's political leader breaches Constitution
Chaguanas West Member of Parliament, Ganga Singh is challenging the decision by the executive of the United National Congress to fix November 26th, 2017 as the date for the election for the party's political leader, saying it is ultra vires and/or in breach of the UNC Constitution.
He says it is therefore null and void.
Singh has written a letter to the party's General Secretary Dave Tancoo noting that according to the party's Constitution, elections are held every two years for all members of the executive except the political leader and that the leadership elections are held every three years.
He points out that the announcement by the party notes that 18 of the party's 20 elected posts will be contested, including the position of the political leader.
He notes that political leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar has taken a decision to seek a fresh mandate for the party members as the party prepares for a general election.
"Mr General Secretary, if the above notices are genuine, I ask that you and the Party's National Executive, carefully consider and/or reconsider Article 18 of the Party's Constitution in the context of my complaint and the proposed election," Singh states in the letter.
He notes that the last election for the post was held in December 2015 which means that the next election for political leader is due in December 2018.
He points out that the political leader has not resigned nor has the office become vacant.
"I know that as a party which fervently and justifiably believes itself to be in a position to form the next government for our Country, the National Executive and the Political Leader would not want to act contrary to and in breach of the Party's own Constitution. Indeed, transparency and accountability demand no less," he said.
He has asked for a response within four days.
The letter was copied to party chairman David Lee and political leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar.
Source: http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/gan ... nstitution
zoom rader wrote:Men studying UNC elections but should be focusing on PNM raping this country
UNC never winning another elections in Trinidad 
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:if Kamla wins, I see ah look bachannal in the making, some idiot go want to form ah next party
Kamla staving off palace coup
Rosemarie Sant
Published:
Thursday, October 26, 2017
Dr Bishnu Ragoonath
United National Congress (UNC) political leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar might be trying to stave off a palace coup within the party by bringing forward the election for the political leader by a year.
That is the view of political analyst Dr Bishnu Ragoonath, head of the Political Science Department at the St Augustine Campus of the University of the West Indies.
“It is really an attempt to stifle any challenge she may have, not only as political leader but as Leader of the Opposition. Somehow I believe she might have got wind of some kind of moves afoot and she is using the opportunity to stifle whatever challenge there might be,” he told the T&T Guardian.
Had she allowed the three-year term to run its course to November 2018, he said, the growing discontent among UNC MPs would have manifested itself in a palace coup.
“There are 18 of them. She is thinking they are getting close to the halfway mark and that is why she is saying, ‘Revalidate me.’ If that revalidation comes from the membership then all those MPs who want to evict her from the seat of Opposition Leader will be silenced.”
Ragoonath said the timing of national executive’s decision on the election is curious.
“Think about it. In the middle of a flood when everybody is expending their energy on the flood and you lambasting the government, your party is going to find time to come and say let’s have an internal election?
There is something more in the mortar than the pestle,” he said.
Ragoonath recalled an attempt by Persad-Bissessar in 2015 to ensure that whoever is part of her executive remains totally loyal to her. He said ideally in an election for the national executive, the political leader is not supposed to throw her support behind one slate or another, and in that context, a mix of people could be elected.
“But if there is an election for the post of political leader, clearly the slate with the political leader would be the one preferred to a large extent, so by putting her name forward, she will give the slate to which she is aligned more credibility.
“She is giving credibility to her own slate rather than allowing the party to pick the persons they think are best suited,” he said.
Ragoonath did not want to get into the issue of whether the national executive decision was in keeping with the UNC’s constitution.
Political commentator Ralph Maraj agreed that Persad-Bissessar might be sensing a threat to her leadership and is “trying to nip the threat in the bud.”
Chaguanas West MP Ganga Singh has objected to the calling of an early election for political leader saying it is ultra vires Section 18 of the UNC constitution.
Maraj, who was a member of the party from 1995 to 2001 said: “In that period I don’t recall an election being held. The UNC is not always faithful to its constitutional time-tables. National executive elections and elections for political leader were postponed until the political leader or executive determined the time was right, so there is a precedent for flexibility for the holding of elections.”
He felt Persad-Bissessar convinced the national executive to move the election forward so as not to be close to local government and general elections because when internal elections take place the party becomes divided and factionalised.
“They need to settle the internal elections early enough to give them the opportunity to unify themselves,” he said.
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:mean while PNM enjoying this...they seeing another 5 years in office easy
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:mean while PNM enjoying this...they seeing another 5 years in office easy
zoom rader wrote:shake d livin wake d dead wrote:mean while PNM enjoying this...they seeing another 5 years in office easy
That's what I said we PNM till we dead.
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