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Former diplomat Reginald Dumas says “it is highly unusual” for China to withdraw an invitation to a foreign leader, and it does “represent on the face of it a snub.”
He was commenting on China’s decision to withdraw an invitation to Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley to attend talks in Beijing later this month.
Dumas described the Chinese and Japanese as “sticklers for protocol... I have never heard of this, that you issue an invitation and then withdraw it. The Chinese don’t do that kind of thing without a background, whatever that background might me.”
The announcement that Rowley had been invited to China as part of a meeting with nine other world leaders was made last Thursday by Minister in the Office of the Prime Minister Stuart Young. On Tuesday, however, another announcement came via a statement from the Office of the Prime Minister indicating that “on November 14, 2017 Ambassador Song Yumin paid a visit to Minister Stuart Young at the Ministry of the Attorney General and Legal Affairs and officially discussed with Minister Young that the Chinese, attaching great importance to the development of the relations between China and Trinidad and Tobago, would like to invite the Honourable Prime Minister to pay an Official Visit to China next year, replacing the invitation of the High-Level meetings.”
Details of that visit are still to be worked out.
Speaking on the CNC3 Morning Brew yesterday, Dumas wondered , “Is it that there was no invitation? Is it that something was being considered? I don’t know, we will probably never get to the truth of the matter because the Chinese aren’t going to say anything, of course. But it is highly unusual and it does represent on the face of it a snub.”
He said normally in matters like these “there is a simultaneous announcement in both capitals” and there is also agreement on the text of what would be said.
“Was that done? I suspect we will not get to the bottom of this in a hurry.”
Naparima MP Rodney Charles also described the pulling back of the invitation as a “diplomatic snub.”
Charles said under the former government, Chinese President Xi Jinping visited this country in June 2013 mere weeks after his appointment.
“Such was the high esteem in which T&T was held. Today we are witness to essentially a major diplomatic snub where our PM’s visit to China was postponed to ‘a date to be announced.’”
He said the “diplomatic rebuff” comes in the wake of our country’s inexplicable absence from the 23rd Conference of Parties to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change which opened on Monday in Bonn.
The meeting focuses on climate impacts on Small Island Developing States (SIDS). Charles said this country’s attendance was important if only because of recent countrywide floods, erosion of our seashores in places like Manzanilla and Icacos, and our second highest per capita carbon footprint in the world.
88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Agreed but it's the sheit that gets passed as news that he has to go and defend as he doesn't simply go out and address the claims the reporters ask the questions. Giving a no comment is not being transparent. Andy Johnson as the "Press secretary" for the PP was a boss as he literally controlled the narrative and questioning and when he realise sheit going off track he would end it abruptly during their post cabinet meetings.Dizzy28 wrote:Stuart Young went from being an okish attorney in private practice to the lapdog of the PNM who has to go bowl more spin than Murali every Thursday post Cabinet.
Politics really different, don't think I could live like that nah.
boxy wrote:Agreed but it's the sheit that gets passed as news that he has to go and defend as he doesn't simply go out and address the claims the reporters ask the questions. Giving a no comment is not being transparent. Andy Johnson as the "Press secretary" for the PP was a boss as he literally controlled the narrative and questioning and when he realise sheit going off track he would end it abruptly during their post cabinet meetings.Dizzy28 wrote:Stuart Young went from being an okish attorney in private practice to the lapdog of the PNM who has to go bowl more spin than Murali every Thursday post Cabinet.
Politics really different, don't think I could live like that nah.
boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
I never told u to not discuss it I was stating that this is a non issue like the HDC houses for the tobago MP's but alas I am deemed a fanatic for being logical where apparently I must be critical carry on let's speak about a China trip that apparently was a cover up for Kaka Doc/Scary to hide another vacation inside. Get the itenary and se if he was taking he wife and children too.rspann wrote:boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
Why you want to tell me what I must discuss and what is news ? It made headlines ,it is news. Anytime they get caught out , fanatics want to change the topic. Why musn't this topic be discussed ? Why can't we discuss what seems to be a cover up for trip that my money is to be spent for , that was never what is was purported to be? Orr , I forget is only Kamila use to travel and waste money , Growley only travelling where it benefits the country . My name is Issac Hunt.
boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
Assuming you never did business with China or do not know the Chinese Culture etc.
Chinese operate a different way .
If they make a plan - they will complete that plan.
So Sum Ting Wong with Stuart
Manning was a champion with the Chinese and international investors .
BaldyLUX is a complete utter failure when comes to international scenarios .
RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
Assuming you never did business with China or do not know the Chinese Culture etc.
Chinese operate a different way .
If they make a plan - they will complete that plan.
So Sum Ting Wong with Stuart
Manning was a champion with the Chinese and international investors .
BaldyLUX is a complete utter failure when comes to international scenarios .
boxy wrote:RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
Assuming you never did business with China or do not know the Chinese Culture etc.
Chinese operate a different way .
If they make a plan - they will complete that plan.
So Sum Ting Wong with Stuart
Manning was a champion with the Chinese and international investors .
BaldyLUX is a complete utter failure when comes to international scenarios .RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
Assuming you never did business with China or do not know the Chinese Culture etc.
Chinese operate a different way .
If they make a plan - they will complete that plan.
So Sum Ting Wong with Stuart
Manning was a champion with the Chinese and international investors .
BaldyLUX is a complete utter failure when comes to international scenarios .
LMAO DAN save that BS for the mindless drones of the UNC Facebook Group.
If China makes a plan they will complete it really? Are the Chinese the master race for not following through with a plan that may have flaws?
The most recent and biggest plan they had they recently canceled.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/w ... ution.html
I don't know wtf the meeting was for or if there was one for that matter this isn't something that can be found out via Google as alot of people tried to do but don't spew rubbish and parrot Chinese propaganda when we trying to have an intelligent conversation. I read alot of your posts in other topics which are sometimes intelligent in your remarks I know You are better than that.
RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
Assuming you never did business with China or do not know the Chinese Culture etc.
Chinese operate a different way .
If they make a plan - they will complete that plan.
So Sum Ting Wong with Stuart
Manning was a champion with the Chinese and international investors .
BaldyLUX is a complete utter failure when comes to international scenarios .RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
Assuming you never did business with China or do not know the Chinese Culture etc.
Chinese operate a different way .
If they make a plan - they will complete that plan.
So Sum Ting Wong with Stuart
Manning was a champion with the Chinese and international investors .
BaldyLUX is a complete utter failure when comes to international scenarios .
LMAO DAN save that BS for the mindless drones of the UNC Facebook Group.
If China makes a plan they will complete it really? Are the Chinese the master race for not following through with a plan that may have flaws?
The most recent and biggest plan they had they recently canceled.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/w ... ution.html
I don't know wtf the meeting was for or if there was one for that matter this isn't something that can be found out via Google as alot of people tried to do but don't spew rubbish and parrot Chinese propaganda when we trying to have an intelligent conversation. I read alot of your posts in other topics which are sometimes intelligent in your remarks I know You are better than that.
Yes the Chinese are actually THE master race ..
They are the best at every thing they do ..
Economics ( Richest country ), technology ( Apple phones etc. ) and work ethics ( Business - Grocery and restaurant )
Trini are excellent @ Fete and Crime and Gossip and Bacchanal .. and ..
boxy wrote:RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
Assuming you never did business with China or do not know the Chinese Culture etc.
Chinese operate a different way .
If they make a plan - they will complete that plan.
So Sum Ting Wong with Stuart
Manning was a champion with the Chinese and international investors .
BaldyLUX is a complete utter failure when comes to international scenarios .RedVEVO wrote:boxy wrote:Isn't Dumas a retired public servant? How would he know?rspann wrote:88sins wrote:The simplest answer is usually the correct one
He was invited to a meeting of world leaders, then that invitation was revoked. So, simple answer, they realized after the invitation he doesn't make the cut as regards their definition of a leader.
hard luck dey boi keith, look at it as a learning experience
Didn't Dumas say that it does not appear that there was any meeting?
Also what's the big deal about China changing the meeting to a later date? How is this news? I want to hear about the casinos that claim they closing down due to this new legislation when I seeing their car parks over full. What going to be done about the Immigration officers who shaft citizens over the weekend?
Assuming you never did business with China or do not know the Chinese Culture etc.
Chinese operate a different way .
If they make a plan - they will complete that plan.
So Sum Ting Wong with Stuart
Manning was a champion with the Chinese and international investors .
BaldyLUX is a complete utter failure when comes to international scenarios .
LMAO DAN save that BS for the mindless drones of the UNC Facebook Group.
If China makes a plan they will complete it really? Are the Chinese the master race for not following through with a plan that may have flaws?
The most recent and biggest plan they had they recently canceled.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/w ... ution.html
I don't know wtf the meeting was for or if there was one for that matter this isn't something that can be found out via Google as alot of people tried to do but don't spew rubbish and parrot Chinese propaganda when we trying to have an intelligent conversation. I read alot of your posts in other topics which are sometimes intelligent in your remarks I know You are better than that.
Yes the Chinese are actually THE master race ..
They are the best at every thing they do ..
Economics ( Richest country ), technology ( Apple phones etc. ) and work ethics ( Business - Grocery and restaurant )
Trini are excellent @ Fete and Crime and Gossip and Bacchanal .. and ..
Economy The US Is the #1 economy and richest nation
Technology the Chinese are notorious for stealing intellectual property and almost all their ilatary is a carbon copy of soviet and US tech. The IPhone is a US product made in China meaning labor is cheaper... That's it
Business Yes I give u that but only to the extent that the local grocery and restaurants you are referring to are established by acquiring loans from their own. (Chinese Association) To build from the ground up and they work like dogs near slave labor to pay it back out of fear of the concequences
They don't walk into Scotia bank or RBTT and ask for loans.
boxy wrote:China had a financial crisis along with the rest of the world bro. To the point where citizens began committing suicide due to loosing life savings in the stock market they heavily invested in. China had to bail out almost all its businesses just like the US did. China also pushes a false economy where they claim to be having growth when in fact the government is the one that is funding its own growth. This will eventually catch up with them.
boxy wrote:Lmao ok I done brother.
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