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Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby RedVEVO » December 8th, 2017, 1:06 am

Who is in charge ?

Whose responsibility is it to have have a working crime plan ?

Why ALL the blame talk Mr PM ?

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-12- ... save-lives

“Opposition Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar and her UNC gang voted to maintain the status quo, where those who are recruiting children in schools are arming them with guns, taking them from their mother’s breast and putting them on the streets to kill innocent citizens.”

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby j.o.e » December 8th, 2017, 1:17 am

What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?

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Postby RedVEVO » December 8th, 2017, 1:18 am

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-12- ... save-lives

PNM Rowley say:

" .. Citing the UNC’s action as the “politics of crime,” Rowley said, “The PNM has done its part, we’ll serve the Lord...”

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Re: Who is

Postby RedVEVO » December 8th, 2017, 1:19 am

j.o.e wrote:What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?


It gives TTPS way too much powers .

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Re: Who is

Postby RedVEVO » December 8th, 2017, 1:20 am

RedVEVO wrote:
j.o.e wrote:What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?


It gives TTPS way too much powers .


T&T becoming s Police State under a dictator who duncey :D

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby j.o.e » December 8th, 2017, 1:22 am

RedVEVO wrote:
j.o.e wrote:What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?


It gives TTPS way too much powers .


This is very similar to legislation that KPB and company used during the SOE. That legislation expired, amendments were made to lessen police powers, it was debated and yet still ......... no support. What is the specific part o the legislation they have a problem with ? Seeing that it’s a softened version of what they put in place ?

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Re: Who is

Postby Numb3r4 » December 8th, 2017, 1:23 am

j.o.e wrote:What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?


The ability to detain without a warrant is the one I'm hearing a lot about.

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby RedVEVO » December 8th, 2017, 1:28 am

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-12- ... l-monster-—-deosaran

" ... Chairman of the Manpower Audit Committee into the T&T Police Service (TTPS), Prof Ramesh Deosaran, yesterday said the alliances between politicians, gang leaders and community leaders have been undermining the operations and morale of the TTPS .. "

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Re: Who is

Postby RedVEVO » December 8th, 2017, 1:30 am

j.o.e wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:
j.o.e wrote:What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?


It gives TTPS way too much powers .


This is very similar to legislation that KPB and company used during the SOE. That legislation expired, amendments were made to lessen police powers, it was debated and yet still ......... no support. What is the specific part o the legislation they have a problem with ? Seeing that it’s a softened version of what they put in place ?


TTPS has enough power and legislation and laws etc.

Dilly and Willy are the problem that crime is out of control :shock: :shock:

Dilly is a retired old Hoss.

Willy is a retiring old Hoss.

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby j.o.e » December 8th, 2017, 1:32 am

RedVEVO wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:
j.o.e wrote:What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?


It gives TTPS way too much powers .


This is very similar to legislation that KPB and company used during the SOE. That legislation expired, amendments were made to lessen police powers, it was debated and yet still ......... no support. What is the specific part o the legislation they have a problem with ? Seeing that it’s a softened version of what they put in place ?


TTPS has enough power and legislation and laws etc.

Dilly and Willy are the problem that crime is out of control :shock: :shock:


Honestly speaking when last was crime under control ? Pre Dilly/Willy?

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Re: Who is

Postby RedVEVO » December 8th, 2017, 1:37 am

j.o.e wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:
j.o.e wrote:What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?


It gives TTPS way too much powers .


This is very similar to legislation that KPB and company used during the SOE. That legislation expired, amendments were made to lessen police powers, it was debated and yet still ......... no support. What is the specific part o the legislation they have a problem with ? Seeing that it’s a softened version of what they put in place ?


TTPS has enough power and legislation and laws etc.

Dilly and Willy are the problem that crime is out of control :shock: :shock:


Honestly speaking when last was crime under control ? Pre Dilly/Willy?


PM has lost the control on crime.

PM keeping blaming everybody for HIS failure.

He need to fire Dilly and Willy and get on with a crime plan.

He has admitted that there is criminal financing under his watch .

Where are the crime hotspots ?

Why he cannot solve the problem ?

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Postby RedVEVO » December 8th, 2017, 1:47 am

^^^^


" ... Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley, during an address to the nation last month, said some homeowners were being chased out of their homes by people who had no respect for law and order at Clifton Towers .. "


http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-12- ... irculation

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby skylinechild » December 8th, 2017, 2:07 am

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-12- ... save-lives

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Trinidad guardian wrote:Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi meanwhile said the anti-gang bill cannot be returned to Parliament for another six months


why cant the bill be returned to parliament for another six months.. it going on holiday??

something supposed to change in the respective UNC /PNM camps within / after the 6 mths "rest"??

tuner legalese / politicians / law experts plz clarify

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Postby streetbeastINC. » December 8th, 2017, 2:21 am

Ttps have enough laws to deal with crime...i still dont understand how all this legislation and this and that going to deal with all the guns...well said ,,we are becoming a military and police state where members of ttps junior senior you name it are Demi gods.......police i know drink and drive as normal ....

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby j.o.e » December 8th, 2017, 2:45 am

skylinechild wrote:http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-12-07/they-wont-act-save-lives

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Trinidad guardian wrote:Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi meanwhile said the anti-gang bill cannot be returned to Parliament for another six months


why cant the bill be returned to parliament for another six months.. it going on holiday??

something supposed to change in the respective UNC /PNM camps within / after the 6 mths "rest"??

tuner legalese / politicians / law experts plz clarify


Once a bill is voted against it can’t be returned in the same format for another 6 months. Even an amended version can’t be returned. This is to keep the legislative wheels turning rather than stuck working on the same things

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby Average » December 8th, 2017, 9:52 am

Just when something doesn't work out for the pnm, you joke about how rowlee will blame kamla and you find out, it's not a joke, it's real.

Tired. F.ucking tired.

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Re: Who is

Postby Dizzy28 » December 8th, 2017, 10:08 am

j.o.e wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:
j.o.e wrote:What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?


It gives TTPS way too much powers .


This is very similar to legislation that KPB and company used during the SOE. That legislation expired, amendments were made to lessen police powers, it was debated and yet still ......... no support. What is the specific part o the legislation they have a problem with ? Seeing that it’s a softened version of what they put in place ?


TTPS has enough power and legislation and laws etc.

Dilly and Willy are the problem that crime is out of control :shock: :shock:


Honestly speaking when last was crime under control ? Pre Dilly/Willy?


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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby j.o.e » December 8th, 2017, 10:13 am

Average wrote:Just when something doesn't work out for the pnm, you joke about how rowlee will blame kamla and you find out, it's not a joke, it's real.

Tired. F.ucking tired.


When something doesn’t work out for the PNM? Legislation to attack criminality is not for the PNM or the UNC .... it’s for the country. It can’t be good legislation when KPB pilots it and bad when PNM pilots it WITH amendments to satisfy the opposition.
Its time the country puts partisan politics aside for the benefit of key issues
Crime
Healthcare
Economic diversification
Infrastructure

these issues are not things to be politicized. Policy should continue smoothly regardless of who is in power for these long term items. It’s the citizens allowing this.

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby zoom rader » December 8th, 2017, 10:43 am

j.o.e wrote:What’s the reason UNC didn’t support the legislation tho ?

Cause it will create a police state like in East Germany of old.
Your rights and freedoms will be gone

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » December 8th, 2017, 10:46 am

I still wondering why allyuh really feel this bill was going to help anything

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby mero » December 8th, 2017, 10:46 am

Average wrote:Just when something doesn't work out for the pnm, you joke about how rowlee will blame kamla and you find out, it's not a joke, it's real.

Tired. F.ucking tired.
No wonder they make paper plane with your firearm application yes.

Without mentioning Rowley and PNM(tough one) , why does UNC and their supporters genuinely see this as a victory? Srs

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Postby paid_influencer » December 8th, 2017, 10:53 am

Thank you Kamla, for saving us from the criminals

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby Ben_spanna » December 8th, 2017, 10:58 am

A few short years ago the shoe was on the other foot, and the then peenem did the same thing to anti-gang legislation when it was proposed by the Unc, to both parties this is nothing more than a game to " shame and blame" whilst the country suffers at the hands of criminals.
Neither of the 2 major PArties truly care about Trinidad and its future, neither cares about the safety of its people as the politicians themselves have their police escorts and big houses with personal security..... its All about the self glorification, renumeration and illegal kickbacks.
Stop blaming either side and see our politics for what it is, just a shameful Scam!

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Postby - Rovin's car audio - » December 8th, 2017, 11:05 am

^^^ ENT !


instead of running after d horse when it already left d stable why not secure all our borders & points of entry so no drugs or guns coming in , cut it off at d source so d gangs wont have any to sell or easy access to guns to shoot ppl , why was this never done since 1962 or anytime during d last 55yrs ?

how come d same govt in now had all d solutions during campaigning & when d other ppl was in power ? , ent they can still do plenty other things without d opposition helping them to pass new laws ? , wam to d army - all dem foot break or they just there in case a war bruk out ?

all these existing politicians from BOTH sides jes like to be in power liking up dey selves & playing games with ppl lives .... :|

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby Sundar » December 8th, 2017, 11:23 am

Start attacking politicians and take them off the untouchable high horse they're riding.

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Re: Who is

Postby De Dragon » December 8th, 2017, 12:56 pm

mero wrote:
Average wrote:Just when something doesn't work out for the pnm, you joke about how rowlee will blame kamla and you find out, it's not a joke, it's real.

Tired. F.ucking tired.
No wonder they make paper plane with your firearm application yes.

Without mentioning Rowley and PNM(tough one) , why does UNC and their supporters genuinely see this as a victory? Srs

I don't see any victory for anyone concerned. WE are still at the mercy of the criminals, as WE do not have TTPS guarding us night and day like Rowley and Kams. Yet here we are, at each other's throats. :roll: Which one of us will write to, or visit our MP to find out why they voted the way they did?
Rowley did sound like a whiny beyotch though. I haven't heard Kams speak directly to the issue, but through surrogates like Padarath (dramatic as usual)

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Postby RedVEVO » December 8th, 2017, 2:42 pm

- Rovin's car audio - wrote:^^^ ENT !


instead of running after d horse when it already left d stable why not secure all our borders & points of entry so no drugs or guns coming in , cut it off at d source so d gangs wont have any to sell or easy access to guns to shoot ppl , why was this never done since 1962 or anytime during d last 55yrs ?

how come d same govt in now had all d solutions during campaigning & when d other ppl was in power ? , ent they can still do plenty other things without d opposition helping them to pass new laws ? , wam to d army - all dem foot break or they just there in case a war bruk out ?

all these existing politicians from BOTH sides jes like to be in power liking up dey selves & playing games with ppl lives .... :|


Gov't protecting their supporters base camp :D
Who is Marlene's friend and campaign manager ?
Who she bring to meet Prez ?

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby rspann » December 8th, 2017, 7:35 pm

The same man who just get a $45 M contract?

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby racedriverpro » December 8th, 2017, 10:48 pm

Sundar wrote:Start attacking politicians and take them off the untouchable high horse they're riding.
I dream about it most days...but who willing to attack, Sundar pow pow?

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Re: Who is " They wont act to save lives" ?

Postby Keyser Soze » December 9th, 2017, 7:06 am

I don't usually have respect for this opposition, but it looks to me like the public's interest was at heart by not supporting this bill.
Did anyone really listen to the reasons they had issues with the proposed bill?
* five year sunset clause
* heavy sedition laws
* police can search your premises without warrant if SUSPECTED of gang activity
* Full Powers of arrest for customs and other security agencies?

With the current corrupt elements in the protective services the above is surely the makings of a police state.

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