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Re: Broward School shooter was "disturbed", are gun laws in the US too relaxed?

Postby shogun » February 15th, 2018, 11:53 pm

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Postby maj. tom » February 16th, 2018, 6:31 am

Um so without unlimited access to fully automatic weapons, how you expect civilians to repel the invasion plans of the King of England? Unbelievable!
Las Vegas and Florida are just mishaps, rice in the soup.


But it's kind of obvious, after so many, many, many times, that this is what America wants and they should have it!

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Postby jahs0ldi3r » February 16th, 2018, 9:57 am

Lass Vegas was Saudi Arabia
Florida was fbi

This is the interview with the witness that was with the supposed shooter while the shooting was happening, stating that it wasn't him, even though she herself expected him to do something like that

https://youtu.be/U35Xsd2axJs

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Postby Dizzy28 » February 16th, 2018, 10:02 am

Its ridiculous that at 19 you can't legally buy liquor but can legally buy an assault rifle in good ole Murica.

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Re: Broward School shooter was "disturbed", are gun laws in the US too relaxed?

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Re: Broward School shooter was "disturbed", are gun laws in the US too relaxed?

Postby Redman » February 16th, 2018, 11:35 am

So Feb 16 2018....those of you with kids..
A mass shooter has entered your kids school while school is in progress.

..which would you prefer....

1) Wait and hope that law enforcement arrives in time so that YOUR child is not killed.
2) Hope the shooter has a change of heart before he shoots your child...
3)The shooter is stopped as fast as is humanly possible....

If its #3....the best bet is to have some one on location willing to risk their life to stop an armed shooter.
That person will be better able to do this if they are also armed.
And proficient enough to do the job.
So we looking at an armed and proficient person willing to kill the shooter.

If any one has any other real world suggestions that will be as efficient as #3..I would like to discuss.

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Postby wagonrunner » February 16th, 2018, 11:51 am

would on the 17th be too soon to restrict and remove civilian access to assault weapons, or are you creating a permanent job position in all areas for said proficient armed persons?
unless of course you can only think in terms of "today", which explains why the problem still exists.
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Postby pete » February 16th, 2018, 12:08 pm

Are you proposing snipers in all schools?

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Postby Redman » February 16th, 2018, 12:15 pm

Remove access??
OK -HOW do you remove access to the guns already in circulation?
Whether here or in the US we have a large quantity of guns in public control.

Tell me how you remove them.

Pete-I asked questions didnt propose anything-you have any answers?
whats your preference between 1,2,3?

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Re: Broward School shooter was "disturbed", are gun laws in the US too relaxed?

Postby pete » February 16th, 2018, 12:30 pm

Gun amnesty for assault rifles and/or mandatory certification and licensing for possession. License to include training on use as well as regular psychological evaluations. Maximum quantities of ammunition allowed to be purchased and owned.

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Postby 88sins » February 16th, 2018, 1:08 pm

shogun & de dragon,
Excessive regulation does not deter those intent on breaking the law, regardless of the method, means or reasons for which they intend to do so, because no matter what flea-brained ideals you are guided by, you can NEVER know what someone else is thinking about doing unless they say or show it.

In T&T a legal firearm is one of the most difficult things to acquire, even requiring persons to qualify, show evidence of need, & renewal when the FUL expires. Yet literally thousands of firearm related homicides have occurred in the last decade alone in T&T . Did the substantially difficult restrictions here eliminate or reduce unjustifiable homicides? The blunt answer is no & that's primarily because in the absence of an easy way to kill, those intent on destruction & chaos will adapt to other means that are still readily accessible to them & just as easy to use, such as knives, poisons, IED's, sabotage, etc. Deny this simple fact all you want, it only show that you are either delusional, illogical, or both, or worst of all, just plain old dumb as a bag ah rat turds.

Now, for my personal perspective.
Does anyone need an AR15? Does anyone need a semiautomatic pistol or rifle? The only honest answer is maybe, because it hinges on what weaponry an assailant attacks them with & the situation at the time of the attack. Don't agree? That's your problem. If an assailant comes at either of you with a loaded revolver good luck surviving the episode with your hopes & dreams & ideals, & maybe if you're lucky you might be carrying a slingshot at the point in time. If that ever happens, change your name to David & pray you shoot faster & more accurately than an aggressor with a pistol.

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Postby 88sins » February 16th, 2018, 1:18 pm

Redman it was proposed some time ago that your option #3 be put in place, but it never got further than that.


pete wrote:Gun amnesty for assault rifles and/or mandatory certification and licensing for possession. License to include training on use as well as regular psychological evaluations. Maximum quantities of ammunition allowed to be purchased and owned.


Mostly I'd agree to this & it's doable, except for the amounts of ammunition a person can purchase & possess. not that I don't agree with purchase/possession limits, but it would be difficult to enforce & keep track of. In Canada, mag limits are in place & that would be the easiest option. Assailant is forced to reload after 5 shots instead of after 30, giving potential victims time to flee or find cover.

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Postby 88sins » February 16th, 2018, 3:05 pm

youth man feel he's antonio banderas owa

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Postby Redman » February 16th, 2018, 3:11 pm

Locally how many crimes have been committed with a licensed fire arm?

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Postby wagonrunner » February 16th, 2018, 4:27 pm

Redman wrote:Remove access??
OK -HOW do you remove access to the guns already in circulation?
Whether here or in the US we have a large quantity of guns in public control.

Tell me how you remove them.

In the US, also ban open carry. criminalize it. (make the official response the latter).


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Postby Redman » February 16th, 2018, 4:53 pm

This would work......... like the ban on drugs.

Whether we like it of not....many people feel this is a RIGHT.
and it has been.

Any one who owns weapons is likely to ignore a ban....if I have 50k worth of guns...does the US govt compensate me?
An amnesty will fail, and will require a house to house search.
That's 50 year court battle in the states.


So while we waiting on that to sort itself out...I think we should look at Israel...who has had to deal with these domestic terrorism issues for a while.

School shootings are an immediate threat.
What you are suggesting is at minimum years away from any impact.
I don't think it will have an impact....

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Postby 88sins » February 16th, 2018, 6:06 pm

Redman wrote:Locally how many crimes have been committed with a licensed fire arm?

Depends on the type of crime. Homicides, robberies, menacing, illegal usage?
aside from the occasional horned imps shooting his wife & himself, & the odd rum soaked idiot waving it around in public or the one or two betas that need them to feel big enough to gallery & threaten people with them, when you compare those to the illegal ones used to kill, rob & rape you could say almost none by comparison.

Legal firearm possession isn't a right, & those that think it's a privilege are actually mistaken. It's a responsibility, to keep yourself, family & firearm safe at all times & to only use it to take a life only if taking that life will save another life or lives

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » February 16th, 2018, 6:13 pm

Typical libtards, always blaming the gun for killing someone or blaming the knife for killing someone. Always angry at the US constitution but refuse to go live elsewhere. Always a libtard to dodge the FACTS about gun violence in countries where has some of the strictest gun control yet the highest rate of gun violence. I expect no different from the libtards n tuner, all over the world they have the same thing in common.

The tuner libtards are the same cacaholes who support the idea of allowing a man to rape your wife and sit and watch until the police arrives. Just like the case in Netherlands years ago where the burglar break into a woman house, tried to rape her, she knock him out and then she had to pay for his medical bills.

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Postby sMASH » February 16th, 2018, 6:59 pm

Post up homicide rates

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Postby nigel.g » February 16th, 2018, 7:20 pm

AR15 is a military styled assault rifle? Ok..

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Postby 88sins » February 16th, 2018, 7:49 pm

sMASH wrote:Post up homicide rates

check them out yourself. if you find they looking doctored ain't my fault.

http://ttps.gov.tt/Statistics/Crime-Totals-By-Month

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Postby sMASH » February 16th, 2018, 7:50 pm

i cant remember if alwarie daughter was posing with one of those or an AK47.

it was still seen fit for her to get training with such a weapon, as a means of self defense. it was seen fit for her to get that training, cause it is estimated that her life would be at risk and she would need to implement one of those weapons to secure her own self or her family.

if it wasnt a rational means of self defense, then why avail such training...


the best defense against a perpetrator with a gun, is a responsible citizen with a gun.

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Postby Redman » February 16th, 2018, 7:54 pm

So the data shows that increasing LEGAL gun ownership here....will not disproportionately increase gun related crimes.

Yet so many are dead set against it.

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Postby 88sins » February 16th, 2018, 7:55 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Typical libtards, always blaming the gun for killing someone or blaming the knife for killing someone. Always angry at the US constitution but refuse to go live elsewhere. Always a libtard to dodge the FACTS about gun violence in countries where has some of the strictest gun control yet the highest rate of gun violence. I expect no different from the libtards n tuner, all over the world they have the same thing in common.

The tuner libtards are the same cacaholes who support the idea of allowing a man to rape your wife and sit and watch until the police arrives. Just like the case in Netherlands years ago where the burglar break into a woman house, tried to rape her, she knock him out and then she had to pay for his medical bills.


you expect better?
Sane, logical & rational thought meant to develop solutions that would address serious issues ceased to exist on this big blue marble a loooong time ago bruh.
the order of the day for the last 18 years is smoke & mirrors

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Postby sMASH » February 16th, 2018, 7:59 pm

88sins wrote:
sMASH wrote:Post up homicide rates

check them out yourself. if you find they looking doctored ain't my fault.

http://ttps.gov.tt/Statistics/Crime-Totals-By-Month


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... icide_rate

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Postby pugboy » February 16th, 2018, 8:22 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

Switzerland has very high gun ownership rates....

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Postby Miktay » February 16th, 2018, 8:24 pm

most of thiz discussion is moot. It’s too late to ban assault rifles.

Not only are there hundred of thousand of weapons in circulation but other manufacturing methods will make any type of ban irrelevant



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Postby pugboy » February 16th, 2018, 8:27 pm

Yeah it's a difficult idea to ban those guns, impossible to enforce
Unless they going door to door

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