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K74T wrote:Down in de Flora boyyy
Yes then 5 years, then ID cards.pugboy wrote:so what happens when they apply for the amnesty next week?
Does that July date get waived to the 1 year ?
xtech wrote:If I was prime minister I would take drastic action now before it gets out of hand.
Below is a few of my ideas
1. Ask the army to get of their collected butts and Set up a buffer zone around A huge compound near an isolated area with container based buildings to house these thousands of venes visitors. This will stop the free mixing in the local population and limit the bad seeds to mix with our bad seeds and prevent bloodshed. Have the army search each arrival for weapons and drugs. Medical screening is a must.
2. If they just want to come shop and go back fine. We will Allow locals to set up shop inside the compound to supply them with everything they need. Recommend that These businesses may hire Venezuelans to work for them inside the compound.
3. Those who want to stay Until things get better back in their country. No problem apply for and Pay for a work permit and pay to sponser your family on a visa. Anybody wanting to work outside the compound must demonstrate they know how to speak English. Wait for approval after we do as much background checks as we can. Alien IDs will then be issued.
4. They Must be willing to take any job no matter your skill set. If they are able to find work They would be allowed to leave the compound to work and must return after days work is over no matter how far away they find work.
5. If they don’t check back in and they are held outside the compound they will be deported back to Venezuela on a coast guard boat immediately.
6. Those that can’t find work or don’t qualify to work will be put to work on government run agriculture ventures. To grow food that we will all need that should bring food costs down.
7. Buisness men before hiring these people must show proof that they offered the same job to locals at the right wages and the locals refused to take the job.
8. Venezuelans who find work must pay their own accommodations, food, medical bills, education and pay taxes.
9. Any body who falls in love with a vene and wants to marry will have to apply for fiancé visa to be able to do background checks on the fiancé and they must also prove that they can speak Spanish and the partner must know or learn how to speak English. They have 90 days to submit proof.
10. Any local found helping a Venezuelan hide from legal authority will be charged $150,000 per person found.
11. Venezuelans with local relatives may ask resident relatives to sponser them to stay outside the compound. If this person can’t work The local relatives will be responsible to pay for everything from medical to schooling for the sponsored family.
12. Any Venezuelans born here will be not be automatically given citizenship. It also does not grant extra rights to the parents. If the child is has a trini parent then citizenship may be automatically granted. The local parent will be charged with taking care of their child once it’s proven to be their offspring.
paid_influencer wrote:a decade ago, we had Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPVs) and 360 degree radar coming to lock down the border with Venezuela.
Certain interests were threatened, events set into motion and an early election was called. The new Government scrapped the OPVs almost immediately after coming into office.
The one issue that should unite all Trinidadians is that uncontrolled border.
vote nah. none of the politicians have the ability to close that border.
I explained all of this years ago and got banned because they mods said it was racist.agent007 wrote:So T&T has an approx. population of 1,400,000.
Currently, there are over 200,000 illegal immigrants residing here and that number is increasing rapidly on a daily basis.
Some of the countries represented in this illegal immigrant count are:
Venezuela
Colombia
Dominican Republic
Cuba
Grenada
St Vincent & the Grenadines
Guyana
Nigeria
India
China
Lebanon
Syria
Etc
The biggest chunk are the Venez, Chinese and the Syrian/Lebanese.
Watch and see T&T would be more than just Indian, African and dougla. The mixing here would totally change the way we look in 20yrs. It could even attack the future of Islam and Hinduism here. Christianity might just grow.
Anyhow, apart from speculation, the situation is far more serious than is currently being portrayed.
Questions:
What exactly is the Immigration Divison doing about this situation?
How thousands can penetrate our sovereign borders and go unnoticed on a daily basis?
What exactly does the TTCG do?
Why are local business owners so unethical and dishonest to their own people and to the rule of law by hiring illegals to work for them so that they can reduce overheads?
Why are we turning a blind eye to the overall situation all because we getting the rent money and the trini men getting the sex?
Our hospitals offer free healthcare even to citizens who don't pay taxes and it isn't good enough for us. Imagine, these hospitals and health centres are dealing with non nationals and our jails and getting more packed. It will take more tax dollars from an already stressed population to deal with matters that should not have been what it is today in the first place.
The savings that the Govt is trying achieve will be erroded by an increased National security budget.
If we don't come together as a nation now and stop thinking who is indian and who is african and what is unc vs pnm shortcomings, we are going to be outnumbered and extinct.
Separate we climb, united we fall.
Redress10 wrote:This is not difficult to solve.
Redress10 wrote:paid_influencer wrote:a decade ago, we had Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPVs) and 360 degree radar coming to lock down the border with Venezuela.
Certain interests were threatened, events set into motion and an early election was called. The new Government scrapped the OPVs almost immediately after coming into office.
The one issue that should unite all Trinidadians is that uncontrolled border.
vote nah. none of the politicians have the ability to close that border.
Sh*t talk. I'm not a fan of Kamla but all this opv talk is rubbish. What stopping TTDF from conducting 24 hour patrols and searches in areas where illegal immigrants are suspected to be coming ashore. Whatever happened to reconnaisance and surveillance. What stopping the Police from having constant road blocks and searches in those same areas. What stopping the coast guard from increasing patrols?
The people coming in using pirogues and they have to beach at certain areas of Trinidad. This is not difficult to solve.
You honestly need an OPV to stop a pirogue? You believe that bs? Steupss
agent007 wrote:Look what Merkel caused Germany and they are paying the price for that decision...but people chastise Trump on trying to secure his borders but carry on, we know best here and we will have it under control.
RedVEVO wrote:agent007 wrote:Look what Merkel caused Germany and they are paying the price for that decision...but people chastise Trump on trying to secure his borders but carry on, we know best here and we will have it under control.
You serious ?
You comparing Germany to Trinidad ?
Trinidad has ALWAYS been " anti-immigrant "
Trini are a negative people, moving fast with no progress but it has moved to being vindictive.
Why ?
paid_influencer wrote:a decade ago, we had Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPVs) and 360 degree radar coming to lock down the border with Venezuela.
Certain interests were threatened, events set into motion and an early election was called. The new Government scrapped the OPVs almost immediately after coming into office.
The one issue that should unite all Trinidadians is that uncontrolled border.
vote nah. none of the politicians have the ability to close that border.
PM: TT not the solution for millions of Venezuelan migrants
Julien Neaves
THE PRIME Minister says the migrant policy towards Venezuela will have to be adjusted as TT can only provide limited help.
"As a government we have a responsibility to protect the interest of he people of TT first and foremost. Whatever we feel about the people of Venezuela and their circumstance our first and primary responsibility is to protect the interests of the people of TT."
He was speaking Thursday at the post-Cabinet media briefing at the Diplomatic Centre, Port of Spain.
Rowley said Venezuela is a huge space while TT is a tiny dot on the mouth of the Orinoco River. He noted TT has 1.3 million people while Venezuela has 33 million.
"It doesn't matter whose fault it is; Venezuelan problem is for Venezuelans. We are humanitarian, we are caring, we help. But the help TT can give has to be limited. This little island cannot be the solution to millions or hundreds of thousands of migrants leaving Venezuela. And secondly international agencies, many of them with different agendas to our interests in TT, will not encourage us into converting TT, this little island State...into any refugee camp for the larger Venezuelan public."
He continued: "To protect the interests of the people of TT we will have to limit our exposure to the fallout from Venezuela."
He said initially TT allowed the doors to remain open and Venezuelans came and could spend 90 days and return.
"As things got a little worse more of them came and we kept our doors open. But there comes a time when the volume and the presence of these economic migrants in TT will threaten the quality of life of the people of TT. And it falls to us to protect ourselves from that."
Bullchit,hydroep wrote:PM: TT not the solution for millions of Venezuelan migrants
Julien Neaves
THE PRIME Minister says the migrant policy towards Venezuela will have to be adjusted as TT can only provide limited help.
"As a government we have a responsibility to protect the interest of he people of TT first and foremost. Whatever we feel about the people of Venezuela and their circumstance our first and primary responsibility is to protect the interests of the people of TT."
He was speaking Thursday at the post-Cabinet media briefing at the Diplomatic Centre, Port of Spain.
Rowley said Venezuela is a huge space while TT is a tiny dot on the mouth of the Orinoco River. He noted TT has 1.3 million people while Venezuela has 33 million.
"It doesn't matter whose fault it is; Venezuelan problem is for Venezuelans. We are humanitarian, we are caring, we help. But the help TT can give has to be limited. This little island cannot be the solution to millions or hundreds of thousands of migrants leaving Venezuela. And secondly international agencies, many of them with different agendas to our interests in TT, will not encourage us into converting TT, this little island State...into any refugee camp for the larger Venezuelan public."
He continued: "To protect the interests of the people of TT we will have to limit our exposure to the fallout from Venezuela."
He said initially TT allowed the doors to remain open and Venezuelans came and could spend 90 days and return.
"As things got a little worse more of them came and we kept our doors open. But there comes a time when the volume and the presence of these economic migrants in TT will threaten the quality of life of the people of TT. And it falls to us to protect ourselves from that."
https://newsday.co.tt/2019/05/23/pm-tt-not-the-solution-for-millions-of-venezuelan-migrants/
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