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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby kstt » June 14th, 2019, 1:19 pm

All these locals who are venezuelan sympathisers BUSINESS FIXED!!

If they were qualified and unemployed they would be singing a totally different song.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Dizzy28 » June 14th, 2019, 1:51 pm

kstt wrote:All these locals who are venezuelan sympathisers BUSINESS FIXED!!

If they were qualified and unemployed they would be singing a totally different song.


In a country with free tertiary education for the past 14 years why shouldn't our locals all be qualified?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby hydroep » June 14th, 2019, 1:51 pm

Fella getting crucified for this post:


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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » June 14th, 2019, 1:54 pm

Redman wrote:100,000 people here-legal illegal,registered,unregisterd,new,foreign used.

As it is that is where we will be in a few months.

All these protest for/against cant change the end result.
End result will be more red ppl.

Fellow Afros will be a minority

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby hydroep » June 14th, 2019, 2:00 pm

Lots of similarities with the Peruvian experience...

'We must protect our citizens first': Peru expels Venezuelans

Peru has deported more than 40 Venezuelan migrants for concealing they had criminal records or for residing illegally in the country, Interior Minister Carlos Moran said in the wake of first large expulsion since hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans fled to Peru to escape their country's economic crisis.

The migrants were arrested in different districts of the capital, Lima, in a police operation early on Monday, and were put on a military plane headed to Venezuela hours later.

Moran said most of the Venezuelans expelled had provided false sworn declarations in their residency applications that they had no criminal record, a violation of Peru's migration law punishable with deportation.

Others were deported for residing illegally in the Andean country, Moran added, without providing details.

Peru, which has a population of 32 million, has the second-largest population of Venezuelan migrants after Colombia.

Most of the 700,000 Venezuelans in Peru arrived in the past year.

"As a country, we have fraternally welcomed thousands of Venezuelans who have come to seek a better future," Moran told reporters.

"But as a government, we must protect our citizens first, and these people who have entered lying, falsifying information, had criminal records, and that's a threat."

The deportation on Monday followed reports in the local media in recent months about Venezuelan nationals involved in criminal rackets.

"People have to understand [that] we are all not the same, the great majority are here to work and send money to our families, to get them out from the inferno that [Venezuela] has become," Victor Guzman, a Venezuelan immigrant in Peru told Al Jazeera.

Some Peruvians are also worried about their own job stability, and feel this new wave of migration could end up becoming a threat.

"Some businessmen have laid off Peruvians because they say Venezuelans charge them less," Romualda Salas, a Peruvian businesswoman explained.

Some three million Venezuelans have left their homeland since 2015, seeking to escape an economic crisis that has deprived many of basic food and medicine, according to a UN estimate.

Two million more people are expected to emigrate this year.

Most Venezuelan migrants have ended up in other South American countries, straining public services in developing nations unaccustomed to absorbing large migratory waves and heightening a backlash in some places.

"I feel lucky to [be here], but it's a pity many compatriots are being mistreated. We are not here because we want to be, but because we need to be," Alexandra Torrealba, a Venezuelan migrant in Peru, said.

Peru created temporary residency permits for Venezuelans in early 2017, allowing them to work and receive health and education services.

But last year, the government of President Martin Vizcarra stopped allowing new applicants into the programme, which has granted permits to more than 330,000 Venezuelans and is processing requests for 160,000 others.

Sixty-seven percent of Peruvians now view Venezuelan immigration as negative, compared with 43 percent in February 2018, according to an Ipsos poll published in daily El Comercio on Monday.

Crime was listed as the top concern, followed by fears about jobs.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/protect-citizens-peru-expels-venezuelans-190430052927726.html

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » June 14th, 2019, 2:15 pm

hydroep wrote:Lots of similarities with the Peruvian experience...

'We must protect our citizens first': Peru expels Venezuelans

Peru has deported more than 40 Venezuelan migrants for concealing they had criminal records or for residing illegally in the country, Interior Minister Carlos Moran said in the wake of first large expulsion since hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans fled to Peru to escape their country's economic crisis.

The migrants were arrested in different districts of the capital, Lima, in a police operation early on Monday, and were put on a military plane headed to Venezuela hours later.

Moran said most of the Venezuelans expelled had provided false sworn declarations in their residency applications that they had no criminal record, a violation of Peru's migration law punishable with deportation.

Others were deported for residing illegally in the Andean country, Moran added, without providing details.

Peru, which has a population of 32 million, has the second-largest population of Venezuelan migrants after Colombia.

Most of the 700,000 Venezuelans in Peru arrived in the past year.

"As a country, we have fraternally welcomed thousands of Venezuelans who have come to seek a better future," Moran told reporters.

"But as a government, we must protect our citizens first, and these people who have entered lying, falsifying information, had criminal records, and that's a threat."

The deportation on Monday followed reports in the local media in recent months about Venezuelan nationals involved in criminal rackets.

"People have to understand [that] we are all not the same, the great majority are here to work and send money to our families, to get them out from the inferno that [Venezuela] has become," Victor Guzman, a Venezuelan immigrant in Peru told Al Jazeera.

Some Peruvians are also worried about their own job stability, and feel this new wave of migration could end up becoming a threat.

"Some businessmen have laid off Peruvians because they say Venezuelans charge them less," Romualda Salas, a Peruvian businesswoman explained.

Some three million Venezuelans have left their homeland since 2015, seeking to escape an economic crisis that has deprived many of basic food and medicine, according to a UN estimate.

Two million more people are expected to emigrate this year.

Most Venezuelan migrants have ended up in other South American countries, straining public services in developing nations unaccustomed to absorbing large migratory waves and heightening a backlash in some places.

"I feel lucky to [be here], but it's a pity many compatriots are being mistreated. We are not here because we want to be, but because we need to be," Alexandra Torrealba, a Venezuelan migrant in Peru, said.

Peru created temporary residency permits for Venezuelans in early 2017, allowing them to work and receive health and education services.

But last year, the government of President Martin Vizcarra stopped allowing new applicants into the programme, which has granted permits to more than 330,000 Venezuelans and is processing requests for 160,000 others.

Sixty-seven percent of Peruvians now view Venezuelan immigration as negative, compared with 43 percent in February 2018, according to an Ipsos poll published in daily El Comercio on Monday.

Crime was listed as the top concern, followed by fears about jobs.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/protect-citizens-peru-expels-venezuelans-190430052927726.html
It's not really the same, Trini has a minimum wage. So the only factor in hiring is work ethics.

Maybe our customer services can improve with more friendly service rather than a sour face guntress with endless weave and a gold theet.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby hydroep » June 14th, 2019, 2:29 pm

Is Kamla fault, but...


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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby toyolink » June 14th, 2019, 2:52 pm

Honestly, the former PM must be quietly thankful that this situation didn't arise under her watch.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » June 14th, 2019, 2:58 pm

toyolink wrote:Honestly, the former PM must be quietly thankful that this situation didn't arise under her watch.
She is still getting blamed.
PNM ppl are believing that Kamala brought them here and is the one giving them amnesty.

Just read the comments on here.
Listen to the PNM radio stations

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby toyolink » June 14th, 2019, 3:07 pm

PNM ppl are believing that Kamala brought them here and is the one giving them amnesty.

Just read the comments on here.
Listen to the PNM radio stations[/quote]

Critical thinkers don't waste time with that view.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 14th, 2019, 3:09 pm

hydroep wrote:Fella getting crucified for this post:



Man deserves an award, top lad he is

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby aaron17 » June 14th, 2019, 4:28 pm

I was waiting for him to say to help to keep them in ur homes just like the Hurricane situation that affected a Caribbean county a while now.
But seriously, we need to have a cutoff point ..I guess when we assess the numbers.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby kstt » June 14th, 2019, 4:40 pm


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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 14th, 2019, 4:49 pm

MaxPower wrote:
hydroep wrote:Fella getting crucified for this post:



Man deserves an award, top lad he is

I am confused and amazed by the comments tbh

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby kstt » June 14th, 2019, 4:50 pm

hydroep wrote:Fella getting crucified for this post:



Our ancestors were brought here "legally" by the "government" of the day for a purpose. They did not storm and invade the country illegally.

How did he debunk point 3?

WRT getting ill abroad. We went to the US legally. We were given permission by visa. We not going to live there. So I don't understand his point about getting ill abroad.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby rspann » June 14th, 2019, 5:08 pm

Skunt mebbe looking to see if he get a high colour gyal. But what sweet in goat mouth does sour in he Bam Bam

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby hydroep » June 14th, 2019, 5:44 pm

From CNC3 facebook page:

Cut off time reached...

Contrasting scenes in P.O.S. and Sando...

P.O.S. empty, gates about to be closed...

Hundreds still waiting in Sando, international media on site...

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » June 14th, 2019, 5:51 pm

God bless our neighbors in this difficult time.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby aaron17 » June 14th, 2019, 6:02 pm

Sorry in advance if being discussed earlier. But how are the immigrants being deported back to venez ? By using our taxpayers money?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby VII » June 14th, 2019, 6:08 pm

aaron17 wrote:Sorry in advance if being discussed earlier. But how are the immigrants being deported back to venez ? By using our taxpayers money?



Steups..

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Have you seen how nice the new Vene ambassador is talking about T&T ? They will gladly pick them up when we ask..It's the least they can do..
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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby aaron17 » June 14th, 2019, 6:10 pm

VII wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Sorry in advance if being discussed earlier. But how are the immigrants being deported back to venez ? By using our taxpayers money?



Steups..

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Have you seen how nice the new Vene ambassador is talking about T&T ? They will gladly pick them up when we ask..It's the least they can do..
Thanks for anwering my question lol

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby K74T » June 14th, 2019, 6:22 pm

Send all the remaining folks to Haleland Park.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby pugboy » June 14th, 2019, 6:25 pm

When I passed by oval this morning
Saw some politically connected trinis dropping off some venes
High coloured of course

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » June 14th, 2019, 6:29 pm

pugboy wrote:When I passed by oval this morning
Saw some politically connected trinis dropping off some venes
High coloured of course
This is why PNM ppl vex

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby halfbreed_1 » June 14th, 2019, 6:33 pm

Starting Monday the venes will need a visa to enter tnt

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Postby zoom rader » June 14th, 2019, 6:40 pm

halfbreed_1 wrote:Starting Monday the venes will need a visa to enter tnt
Thats good to hear, I hope they start deporting the rest of of the 100000 illegal immigrants. Starting with small islanders

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby rspann » June 14th, 2019, 6:54 pm

They registering Grenadians and Vincentians next.

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Postby Gem_in_i » June 14th, 2019, 6:56 pm

halfbreed_1 wrote:Starting Monday the venes will need a visa to enter tnt

http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/vis ... jw3nseqfs8

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Gem_in_i » June 14th, 2019, 6:59 pm

Passed by Sando around 430pm today and saw long lines. Sad to see. Reminded me of the refugees I saw in Madrid and Salzburg couple yrs ago.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » June 14th, 2019, 7:04 pm

rspann wrote:They registering Grenadians and Vincentians next.
That was done when PP was in office and it's these very same people complaining about venes

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