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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

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Postby hydroep » July 9th, 2019, 8:26 am

Woman charged for roti shop rape
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A Chaguanas couple reportedly lured a 23-year-old Venezuelan woman to a roti shop, where they raped her before abducting her and assaulting her again.

Police say the Venezuelan, who recently participated in the government registration drive, went to the Couva roti shop for a job interview.

Instead she was raped by a man, then taken to a house in Edinburgh 500, Chaguanas.

There, she was sexually assaulted by the woman. Police say the couple kept her locked in the house for three days. They then dropped her off at a mall, where a relative picked her up and called the police.

Police are searching for the businesswoman's boyfriend after she was held on Monday night and charged with grievous sexual assault. She is expected to appear before a Chaguanas magistrate today.

Sgt Jugmohan is leading investigations into the other suspect's whereabouts. WCpl Joseph charged the woman.


https://newsday.co.tt/2019/07/09/woman-charged-for-roti-shop-rape/

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Postby Blaze d Chalice » July 9th, 2019, 11:55 am

Lovely trinis at it again.
Like dem didn't get the memo that these people are LEGALLY here and you can't rape them as you please, as you have been doing for donkey years?

I hope alyuh trinis doh "hide them" like how Beet'em/Lavantory does hide the pests when police come to look for them.

Here is what you can do to help.
Make the name of the Roti shop known.
Make the names and addresses of the pests known and send it to all the local venezuelan groups.
Wait until they get bail.

You can also pm me the name of the roti shop so I can avoid it and make all my female associates aware.

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Postby MaxPower » July 10th, 2019, 5:27 pm

hydroep wrote:
Woman charged for roti shop rape
Jensen La Vende

A Chaguanas couple reportedly lured a 23-year-old Venezuelan woman to a roti shop, where they raped her before abducting her and assaulting her again.

Police say the Venezuelan, who recently participated in the government registration drive, went to the Couva roti shop for a job interview.

Instead she was raped by a man, then taken to a house in Edinburgh 500, Chaguanas.

There, she was sexually assaulted by the woman. Police say the couple kept her locked in the house for three days. They then dropped her off at a mall, where a relative picked her up and called the police.

Police are searching for the businesswoman's boyfriend after she was held on Monday night and charged with grievous sexual assault. She is expected to appear before a Chaguanas magistrate today.

Sgt Jugmohan is leading investigations into the other suspect's whereabouts. WCpl Joseph charged the woman.


https://newsday.co.tt/2019/07/09/woman-charged-for-roti-shop-rape/


Give yourself up 88sins.....

And for the last time, it is NOT your right.

LEAVE the Venezuelan women alone.

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Postby 88sins » July 10th, 2019, 5:40 pm

my offer to you still stands MaxiPad.
you can have my sloppy seconds, since that's the only way you might ever get a female to stomach your incessant bitching

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Postby bluefete » July 11th, 2019, 8:45 am

Pressure Fuh SO!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/tri ... Mkt3oLZFIQ

Trinidad criticized for lack of action as Venezuelan migrants flee to the island nation
While an estimated 40,000 Venezuelans reside in Trinidad and Tobago, the island nation has not instituted an official asylum policy.


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Ruth Navarro and her daughter, Stephani, both Venezuelan, wait for a bus on the outskirts of Port of Spain, Trinidad.Jim Wyss / Miami Herald/TNS via Getty Images

July 10, 2019, 2:13 PM GMT-4
By Dawchelle Hamilton

Stephanie Rodriguez said goodbye to her 6-year-old daughter on a July morning one year ago as she prepared to leave their home country of Venezuela. “She cried and asked me to take her with me but I told her I had to leave,” Rodriguez told NBC News in Spanish. “She screamed and cried that it doesn’t matter if we didn’t have food or shoes.”

But the lack of those essentials and more was exactly why Rodriguez knew she had to go. “She begged me not to forget her and it really broke my heart,” she said.

The journey ahead was too dangerous for her daughter: It would involve being smuggled via boat to the nearby twin-island nation of Trinidad and Tobago. Dozens of people have gone missing after their boats sank taking that similar journey. The missing are a part of the four million Venezuelans who have fled their country in recent years, desperate to escape the growing economic and political crisis.

While large numbers of desperate Venezuelans have flocked to their Spanish-speaking neighbors in South America, more than 98,500 have fled to the Caribbean, according to a 2018 report from the United Nations. If Rodriguez made it, she would join the estimated 40,000 Venezuelans residing in Trinidad and Tobago, just 10 miles off the coast of Venezuela.

With unrest at their shores, Trinidad and Tobago’s government continues to avoid formal asylum legislation. It has also not taken political sides on the unraveling situation in Venezuela, instead choosing to remain officially neutral. Meanwhile, the United States and many allies have backed opposition leader Juan Guiadó as Venezuela’s president, and countries such as Russia and Cuba have thrown their support behind incumbent president Nicolás Maduro.

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enezuelan nationals from the city of Tucupita wait with goods they purchased that are scarce at home for a private ferry back to their country, in the port of Cedros, southwestern Trinidad, on June 1, 2016.Andrea De Silva / REUTERS

As a result, the islands’ government is receiving condemnation from world leaders, the country’s own opposition, and asylum-seekers who say the country needs to do more. This leaves desperate families like Rodriguez’s to choose between remaining in their divided homeland or moving to islands where they are unsure if they are safe and welcome.

Trinidad’s close proximity to Venezuela coupled with its small population has resulted in the country retaining one of the largest Venezuelan-to-citizen ratios. The island nation remains the only country to take in large numbers of Venezuelan migrants without having an official asylum policy in place.

Asylum-seeker Leonardo Vasquez said the Trinidadian government can do better. “As neighbors, you have to be supportive and you know the struggles because you’re right there and you see how these people are migrating,” he said. (Damn fast and out of place. No one told you to come here illegally.)

Back home in Venezuela, he was a lawyer who openly opposed the Maduro regime. In Trinidad, he works as a waiter. Vasquez, whose name was changed to protect his identity, expressed gratitude for being able to find refuge in Trinidad, but he worries about living in legal limbo.

“I’m applying for asylum and not supposed to be working, but at the same time they tell you, you need to do something to survive because nobody is providing you the money or any help,” he said.

The Trinidad and Tobago government carried out a two-week registration process earlier in June that attempted to address the issue by granting Venezuelans photo IDs, a six-months to one-year work permit and basic medical care. It was the first major action toward addressing the spike in migration that began about five years ago, and more than 16,500 Venezuelans registered.

However, many questions remain unanswered, including what will happen to new Venezuelans who arrive after the registration process, whether permits will be renewed once they expire, and why there still isn’t an official asylum law that grants refugee status.

Asylum-seekers can only receive refugee status through the Living Waters Community, the United Nations Refugee Agency’s local implementing chapter in Trinidad, which coordinates the application and approval of asylum status. (Big Money for the R.C. Church!)

The process has created a disconnect between the United Nations approving asylum status in a country that doesn’t dictate how to address refugees. The side effects have led to reports of unlawful detention by the police and the deportation of 82 refugees, actions which the U.N. condemned as illegal.

The uncertainty has Venezuelans there living in fear and seeking financial assistance on the black market, where reports of human trafficking are rampant.

“If we do not manage this crisis, Trinidad will cease to be the country as we know it,” Trinidadian Member of Parliament and former U.N. ambassador Rodney Charles said. Charles is a member of the opposition party that has taken issue with the majority party’s handling of the situation. He believes the country needed a more proactive, on-the-books approach sooner, one that analyzed the country’s capacity to support Venezuelans amid the growing strain on the country’s health sector and economy.

Charles’ frustrations were exacerbated by what he sees as the other party’s support for Maduro despite its official neutrality. He said the party’s support of Maduro could be clearly seen in sending a cabinet official to Maduro’s inauguration in January, continuing oil deals with Venezuela, and the untimely departure of Trinidadian diplomats during a meeting with Guiadó’s representatives.

The majority government has addressed its reasoning behind their nonintervention stance numerous times. In March, a statement released from the prime minister’s office read “You have seen your government join with [the Caribbean Community] to push for an urgent de-escalation of tensions and work on a forum of dialogue and negotiations towards a peaceful resolution to the situation.”

The statement cited concerns over “the use of power” so close to their shores as one of the reasons for choosing neutrality as their “closest neighbor” becomes engulfed in a “growing, smouldering, global standoff” among superpowers.

The small island-country is admittedly being challenged by the largest migration in the region in modern history. The government has taken small steps to address it, but the actions still leave many like Rodriguez worried about whether trusting the system will help or hurt their struggle to provide for their families.

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Postby Ben_spanna » July 11th, 2019, 9:02 am

All of the big First world countries that are negatively criticizing and insulting Trinidad need to understand that we are a SMALL island with limited natural resources and a very limited job market and land availability.... many of our supposed Services that should be provided for its citizens already cannot cope with its demand.. how are we supposed to invite and Support such masses.
Why doesn't the Europe and their counterparts offer and send airplanes to Tobago to welcome them into the Uk for asylum????

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Postby pugboy » July 11th, 2019, 7:17 pm

Stuey say we need a higher security idc now
It would appear we have some serious hardened vene criminals here

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Postby 88sins » July 11th, 2019, 9:09 pm

pugboy wrote:Stuey say we need a higher security idc now
It would appear we have some serious hardened vene criminals here

boi if yuh only knew. dem in idc is actually just a few of d small fry. it have some big sharks in here right now, jus keepin a low profile & handling dey bidness

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Postby sMASH » July 15th, 2019, 2:47 am

nemisis wrote:Most of the issues employers want to complain about in their work force is primarily caused at a management level.
^^ this
If u can't retrain, then u replace. You can but management does stick and encourage poor behaviour.

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Postby hydroep » July 15th, 2019, 7:32 pm

39 illegal Venezuelans, Jamaican held
Date: Monday, July 15, 2019 - 19:15

Officers of the Central Division held 39 Venezuelan nationals and one Jamaican national during an anti-crime exercise conducted in Chaguanas overnight into this morning.

The exercise, coordinated by Snr. Supt. (Ag.) Samuel Seepersad, included officers of the Criminal Investigations Department, Central Division Task Force, the Special Operations Unit, the Canine Branch and Courts and Process Branch, and was conducted between 10 pm on Sunday and 4 am on Monday.

During the exercise, officers proceeded to a bar and guesthouse located along Railway Road, where they discovered the foreign nationals who are believed to be in this country illegally.

The Immigration Division was contacted and investigations are ongoing.


http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/39-illegal-venezuelans-jamaican-held

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Postby De Dragon » July 15th, 2019, 10:23 pm

hydroep wrote:
39 illegal Venezuelans, Jamaican held
Date: Monday, July 15, 2019 - 19:15

Officers of the Central Division held 39 Venezuelan nationals and one Jamaican national during an anti-crime exercise conducted in Chaguanas overnight into this morning.

The exercise, coordinated by Snr. Supt. (Ag.) Samuel Seepersad, included officers of the Criminal Investigations Department, Central Division Task Force, the Special Operations Unit, the Canine Branch and Courts and Process Branch, and was conducted between 10 pm on Sunday and 4 am on Monday.

During the exercise, officers proceeded to a bar and guesthouse located along Railway Road, where they discovered the foreign nationals who are believed to be in this country illegally.

The Immigration Division was contacted and investigations are ongoing.


http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/39-illegal-venezuelans-jamaican-held

MaxTunts and the next chupiddy sure to come to defend the whores, and blame the Trinis.

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Postby MaxPower » July 15th, 2019, 10:38 pm

De Dragon wrote:MaxTunts and the next chupiddy sure to come to defend the whores, and blame the Trinis.


Yes, i am blaming Trinis. The jealousy still bubbling inside allyuh.

But whores though? Is that how you refer to these exploited women?

What if it was your daughter now? Shall society scorn her and call her names? You dont think those “whores” have fathers who are concerned? Who have to live with allyuh stink Trini sweat over their daughters bodies?

Man you are scum.

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Postby De Dragon » July 15th, 2019, 11:43 pm

MaxPower wrote:
De Dragon wrote:MaxTunts and the next chupiddy sure to come to defend the whores, and blame the Trinis.


Yes, i am blaming Trinis. The jealousy still bubbling inside allyuh.

But whores though? Is that how you refer to these exploited women?

What if it was your daughter now? Shall society scorn her and call her names? You dont think those “whores” have fathers who are concerned? Who have to live with allyuh stink Trini sweat over their daughters bodies?

Man you are scum.

What to call them then Deadtool?
Also please refrain from calling my family's name in your jizz stained mouth. Please and thanks.

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Postby pugboy » July 16th, 2019, 5:54 am

more and more driving
and driving like idiots
a navara of them pulled up in wendy's ave drive thru entrance and stopped right there to park yesterday
after driving in front of me length of ave dangerously

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Postby MaxPower » July 16th, 2019, 6:17 am

De Dragon wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
De Dragon wrote:MaxTunts and the next chupiddy sure to come to defend the whores, and blame the Trinis.


Yes, i am blaming Trinis. The jealousy still bubbling inside allyuh.

But whores though? Is that how you refer to these exploited women?

What if it was your daughter now? Shall society scorn her and call her names? You dont think those “whores” have fathers who are concerned? Who have to live with allyuh stink Trini sweat over their daughters bodies?

Man you are scum.

What to call them then Deadtool?
Also please refrain from calling my family's name in your jizz stained mouth. Please and thanks.


So you so boldfaced that you calling other people’s daughter “whores” but when someone mentions yours you toting? Ok De Dragon Deadbeat Dad.

And for a lil boy with a daughter you have no respect for women.

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Postby 88sins » July 16th, 2019, 6:27 am

MaxPower wrote:
De Dragon wrote:MaxTunts and the next chupiddy sure to come to defend the whores, and blame the Trinis.


Yes, i am blaming Trinis. The jealousy still bubbling inside allyuh.

But whores though? Is that how you refer to these exploited women?

What if it was your daughter now? Shall society scorn her and call her names? You dont think those “whores” have fathers who are concerned? Who have to live with allyuh stink Trini sweat over their daughters bodies?

Man you are scum.

you eh fedup play white knight to the extent you can't think straight?

Whores, they are, and so are some Trini females, guyanes, jamaicans, colombians, dominicans, indians, americans, brits, etc. [u]When a person, male or female, renting out their body and selling sexual favors for cash or other compensation to anyone & everyone, that is EXACTLY what they are.[/u] Regardless of your how strongly you believe in your white knigth delusions, those delusions do not have the power to redefine the English language.
And contrary to your rantings, nobody exploiting them, they do it voluntarily in exactly the same way they did it in Venezuela. Why do you think so many of them here are being found in this type of behavior? I'll tell you why since yuh clueless about it. It's because it is the easiest thing to do where they come from, it is widely practiced in their homeland and they are accustomed to it. It is not a recently developed trend, neither is it limited to this region. There are Vene females all over europe renting ass by the hour. You feel that was a coincidence? An accident?
If you want to stop it here, you have to stop it at it's source. in short, stop vene women from whoring in Venezuela. So why you don't take a trip to Venezuela & tell Vene men to stop exploiting Vene women, and tell Vene women to stop renting their crotch?


oh yes, i now remember, yuh deep in yuh lil delusion & rational thought & common sense are nonexistent there
Carry on.

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Postby MaxPower » July 16th, 2019, 6:53 am

88sins wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
De Dragon wrote:MaxTunts and the next chupiddy sure to come to defend the whores, and blame the Trinis.


Yes, i am blaming Trinis. The jealousy still bubbling inside allyuh.

But whores though? Is that how you refer to these exploited women?

What if it was your daughter now? Shall society scorn her and call her names? You dont think those “whores” have fathers who are concerned? Who have to live with allyuh stink Trini sweat over their daughters bodies?

Man you are scum.

you eh fedup play white knight to the extent you can't think straight?

Whores, they are, and so are some Trini females, guyanes, jamaicans, colombians, dominicans, indians, americans, brits, etc. [u]When a person, male or female, renting out their body and selling sexual favors for cash or other compensation to anyone & everyone, that is EXACTLY what they are.[/u] Regardless of your how strongly you believe in your white knigth delusions, those delusions do not have the power to redefine the English language.
And contrary to your rantings, nobody exploiting them, they do it voluntarily in exactly the same way they did it in Venezuela. Why do you think so many of them here are being found in this type of behavior? I'll tell you why since yuh clueless about it. It's because it is the easiest thing to do where they come from, it is widely practiced in their homeland and they are accustomed to it. It is not a recently developed trend, neither is it limited to this region. There are Vene females all over europe renting ass by the hour. You feel that was a coincidence? An accident?
If you want to stop it here, you have to stop it at it's source. in short, stop vene women from whoring in Venezuela. So why you don't take a trip to Venezuela & tell Vene men to stop exploiting Vene women, and tell Vene women to stop renting their crotch?


oh yes, i now remember, yuh deep in yuh lil delusion & rational thought & common sense are nonexistent there
Carry on.


1. Who was speaking to you?
2. All that you bullsheit you type and you are still a Rapist.

And try and buy some good looks na, rather than constantly spending your piss stained $100s on these women. Anything to make yourself feel they want you ent? Sucks not being able to have sex with someone who genuinely wants you ent? Its because when you look at yourself in the mirror u see - ugliness, worthlessness, rejection, anger, suffering, defeat, regret, jealousy, hopelessness etc......i lie?

Very pathetic 88rape, very pathetic.

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Postby 88sins » July 16th, 2019, 7:06 am

MaxPower wrote:
88sins wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
De Dragon wrote:MaxTunts and the next chupiddy sure to come to defend the whores, and blame the Trinis.


Yes, i am blaming Trinis. The jealousy still bubbling inside allyuh.

But whores though? Is that how you refer to these exploited women?

What if it was your daughter now? Shall society scorn her and call her names? You dont think those “whores” have fathers who are concerned? Who have to live with allyuh stink Trini sweat over their daughters bodies?

Man you are scum.

you eh fedup play white knight to the extent you can't think straight?

Whores, they are, and so are some Trini females, guyanes, jamaicans, colombians, dominicans, indians, americans, brits, etc. [u]When a person, male or female, renting out their body and selling sexual favors for cash or other compensation to anyone & everyone, that is EXACTLY what they are.[/u] Regardless of your how strongly you believe in your white knigth delusions, those delusions do not have the power to redefine the English language.
And contrary to your rantings, nobody exploiting them, they do it voluntarily in exactly the same way they did it in Venezuela. Why do you think so many of them here are being found in this type of behavior? I'll tell you why since yuh clueless about it. It's because it is the easiest thing to do where they come from, it is widely practiced in their homeland and they are accustomed to it. It is not a recently developed trend, neither is it limited to this region. There are Vene females all over europe renting ass by the hour. You feel that was a coincidence? An accident?
If you want to stop it here, you have to stop it at it's source. in short, stop vene women from whoring in Venezuela. So why you don't take a trip to Venezuela & tell Vene men to stop exploiting Vene women, and tell Vene women to stop renting their crotch?


oh yes, i now remember, yuh deep in yuh lil delusion & rational thought & common sense are nonexistent there
Carry on.


1. Who was speaking to you?
2. All that you bullsheit you type and you are still a Rapist.

88rape?


say what you will, it still won't ever change the fact that you are still a delisional fairy on yuh period that couldn't get laid if you were in a Mexican whorehouse with a briefcase full of US$.
meanwhile, I waking up every morning with a different chica or 3 in my bed & bussin a nut whenever I feel like.
Suck on that, or a dick, whichever you prefer. but I know you prefer the ick

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Postby MaxPower » July 16th, 2019, 7:47 am

88sins wrote:meanwhile, I waking up every morning with a different chica or 3 in my bed & bussin a nut whenever I feel like.


I pray everyday that these women can find the strength to tolerate your stench.

I pray everyday that one day they will be in a better position to say NO to allyuh advantageous Trini sufferers/rapists.

But you, 88rape, you better start praying these “chicas” you boast about dont get the strength to fhuck your hideous face up in ways you can never imagine.

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Postby 88sins » July 16th, 2019, 8:10 am

ok little MaxiPad. But tbh I just surprised you eh dead yet, ah mean, like you on that one period all yuh life so far. :lol:


btw, yuh could call me a sufferer all you like. I don't mind. because I know for a fact, that even though you call me a sufferer, even my dogs eat better than you do, are treated better than you are, have more possessions than you do and generally live better than you do.
So, with that in mind,, I know I safe when I say that you are so far beneath me that you actually looking forward to the day you could say yuh ketchin yuh ass. But that's your problem.

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Postby hydroep » July 21st, 2019, 4:19 am

V'zuelans have rights too
Call for migrants to go to school, get fair work
Tenisha Sylvester

Venezuelan children should be allowed the right to an education, women are not sex objects and professionals went access to jobs they are qualified for.

This were among various points raised at a discussion held by the Commonwealth Youth Council yesterday at the Writer’s Centre in Woodbrook on Venezuelan migrants in TT.

Heidi Diquez, a Venezuelan who has been living in Trinidad for the past 16 years, said there are scores Venezuelan children who not getting an opportunity to access education in TT.

“What are these children doing? Who is taking care of them? If they are not getting an education these children’s lives are on pause, some of them have been here for as long as four years. Who do you think that is going to impact at the end of the day?” said Diquez, one of the speakers during the conversation circle session. Diquez represented TTV Solidarity Network, a registered NGO that was formed in 2018 because of the large influx of Venezuelan migrants to TT. They provide aid and emergency relief to Venezuelans.

Diquez said young Venezuelans who are not allowed access education risk falling among already vulnerable Trinidadian youths. “Guess what they are going to do? I assure you we are not going to like it. Is society seeing the bigger picture? I do not think they are seeing that. We want our Venezuelan youths not just to be stuck but to continue their professional careers and their growth. If we keep putting plasters on these situations, then nothing will come out.”

She urged TT communities to empower Venezuelans so they are able to integrate into society. “Venezuelans want to work; they want to belong.”

Diquez also called for a change in how Venezuelans are viewed over social media and by mainstream media. “We need to reflect on the stereotyping of women and where is this coming from? There are Venezuelan women who are daughters and mothers and they are not working because they are fearful of being attached or touched and on top of that they are being blamed for this [disrespectful] response because of how they dress and walk the streets,” she said.

“Working in bars has become a crime, where is all this change coming from? Several years ago it was a decent job! However somewhere along the line we are losing something that is valuable and it is respect.”

Marcus Kissoon, one of the event’s facilitators, said the public is generally xenophobic and fearful of these strangers who are coming into TT. “On the other hand, we have popular soca artistes celebrating stereotypes around these women’s bodies. There are certain songs which basically says let us glorify sex work and sexuality which is not what these people more, so women are looking for. Another song’s lyrics states "that’s all the Spanish he knows", to me it is telling young people that this is the only function, learning Spanish to engage with Venezuelan women and we know there is a growing enterprise of sex work in the region. I think that we need to call out these popular artistes to highlight the positive contributions and the struggles Venezuelans are facing as well because they have a role to play in the integrating of people who are in crisis.”

Diquez also addressed sensitising Trinidadians and called on the Catholic church to start the discussion on human rights pertaining to Venezuelan migrants in TT. “In the Catholic Church there are masses where a lot of people are in one place and I think that is a good forum for us to humanise the issues Venezuelans are facing because they are human beings.”

She said other Christian churches are talking or bringing people in to talk about the real issues. “If we are talking about integration and respect for Venezuelans it needs to begin with the dissemination of accurate information within churches and homes.

There are Venezuelans who are qualified professionals and one example is Ricardo Solis, a marketing professional. “There is a lot of opportunities for TT to boost trade with Latin America but the people are generally afraid of what they do not know. Give Venezuelans a change,” said Solis.

“Migration is being done out of necessity and it is not a desire for us to leave our homes. The TT government needs to do an analysis of what their market needs and Trinidadians becoming bilingual could increase trade with Latin America.”

Diquez further stressed, “Venezuelans want to work; they want to belong. We have specialised professionals doing construction work locally when they can do so much more to build the economy of TT.”

The registration process which began on May 31 till June 14 saw more than 16,000 Venezuelans registered. Last Thursday, National Security Minister Stuart Young said registration cards have been prepared are to be issued soon.

The discussion on migrants was initiated by Hannah Gabrielle Katwaroo, 29, who serves on the Caribbean and the Americas Regional Committee of the Commonwealth Youth Council.

“A part of our mandate deals with strengthening youth participation, awareness and advocacy around key issues that are happening locally and regionally. This is just the start of a series of sessions we will be running called the Brown Bag Sessions,” she told Sunday Newsday.

Asked how they got a group of 60 young men and women to attend the event, Katwaroo said they used their social media networks such as Facebook, Instagram and official emails. “The 2 Cents Movement was a big help, the Knowledge Bank of Trinidad and Tobago, colleagues from the Living Water Community and colleagues from various NGOs. The support has been tremendous.”

“Essentially the goal is to have young people think more and engage in credible information and to be able to filter credible information and sense out of what is being circulated on social media. I know we exist within a very laid-back culture, where there is a lot if picong floating around. I really hope that when people leave here they leave informed, empowered to support a vulnerable population and they leave enthusiastic about wanting to be engaged in something positive.”

The discussion began with an icebreaker called the Gallery Walk Exercise which encouraged young people in attendance to think about various thought-provoking quotes and images pertaining to the Venezuelan crisis and then write their own thoughts on the issue.

The comments and images came from different newspaper articles and posts from social media platforms.

“Some the images were taken while on the field doing work with refugees and asylum seekers as well as there are images from a recent art therapy project with Unicef, Living Water Community in collaboration with Medulla Art Gallery,” said Katwaroo.


https://newsday.co.tt/2019/07/21/vzuelans-have-rights-too/

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby screwbash » July 21st, 2019, 4:34 am

MaxPower wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
De Dragon wrote:MaxTunts and the next chupiddy sure to come to defend the whores, and blame the Trinis.


Yes, i am blaming Trinis. The jealousy still bubbling inside allyuh.

But whores though? Is that how you refer to these exploited women?

What if it was your daughter now? Shall society scorn her and call her names? You dont think those “whores” have fathers who are concerned? Who have to live with allyuh stink Trini sweat over their daughters bodies?

Man you are scum.

What to call them then Deadtool?
Also please refrain from calling my family's name in your jizz stained mouth. Please and thanks.


So you so boldfaced that you calling other people’s daughter “whores” but when someone mentions yours you toting? Ok De Dragon Deadbeat Dad.

And for a lil boy with a daughter you have no respect for women.

if them mc spanish women want respect they should respect us here in trinidad and stop dressing like whores when they walking the roads on a daily basis. wear some decent clothes at least. most ah dem the breast showing through the clothes, the pants 2 sizes to small and all they cyat printing out, FFS man respect us here first and get some decent clothes and then trinidad people might respect the spanish woman

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby screwbash » July 21st, 2019, 4:39 am

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V'zuelans have rights too
Call for migrants to go to school, get fair work
Tenisha Sylvester

Venezuelan children should be allowed the right to an education, women are not sex objects and professionals went access to jobs they are qualified for.

This were among various points raised at a discussion held by the Commonwealth Youth Council yesterday at the Writer’s Centre in Woodbrook on Venezuelan migrants in TT.

Heidi Diquez, a Venezuelan who has been living in Trinidad for the past 16 years, said there are scores Venezuelan children who not getting an opportunity to access education in TT.

“What are these children doing? Who is taking care of them? If they are not getting an education these children’s lives are on pause, some of them have been here for as long as four years. Who do you think that is going to impact at the end of the day?” said Diquez, one of the speakers during the conversation circle session. Diquez represented TTV Solidarity Network, a registered NGO that was formed in 2018 because of the large influx of Venezuelan migrants to TT. They provide aid and emergency relief to Venezuelans.

Diquez said young Venezuelans who are not allowed access education risk falling among already vulnerable Trinidadian youths. “Guess what they are going to do? I assure you we are not going to like it. Is society seeing the bigger picture? I do not think they are seeing that. We want our Venezuelan youths not just to be stuck but to continue their professional careers and their growth. If we keep putting plasters on these situations, then nothing will come out.”

She urged TT communities to empower Venezuelans so they are able to integrate into society. “Venezuelans want to work; they want to belong.”

Diquez also called for a change in how Venezuelans are viewed over social media and by mainstream media. “We need to reflect on the stereotyping of women and where is this coming from? There are Venezuelan women who are daughters and mothers and they are not working because they are fearful of being attached or touched and on top of that they are being blamed for this [disrespectful] response because of how they dress and walk the streets,” she said.

“Working in bars has become a crime, where is all this change coming from? Several years ago it was a decent job! However somewhere along the line we are losing something that is valuable and it is respect.”

Marcus Kissoon, one of the event’s facilitators, said the public is generally xenophobic and fearful of these strangers who are coming into TT. “On the other hand, we have popular soca artistes celebrating stereotypes around these women’s bodies. There are certain songs which basically says let us glorify sex work and sexuality which is not what these people more, so women are looking for. Another song’s lyrics states "that’s all the Spanish he knows", to me it is telling young people that this is the only function, learning Spanish to engage with Venezuelan women and we know there is a growing enterprise of sex work in the region. I think that we need to call out these popular artistes to highlight the positive contributions and the struggles Venezuelans are facing as well because they have a role to play in the integrating of people who are in crisis.”

Diquez also addressed sensitising Trinidadians and called on the Catholic church to start the discussion on human rights pertaining to Venezuelan migrants in TT. “In the Catholic Church there are masses where a lot of people are in one place and I think that is a good forum for us to humanise the issues Venezuelans are facing because they are human beings.”

She said other Christian churches are talking or bringing people in to talk about the real issues. “If we are talking about integration and respect for Venezuelans it needs to begin with the dissemination of accurate information within churches and homes.

There are Venezuelans who are qualified professionals and one example is Ricardo Solis, a marketing professional. “There is a lot of opportunities for TT to boost trade with Latin America but the people are generally afraid of what they do not know. Give Venezuelans a change,” said Solis.

“Migration is being done out of necessity and it is not a desire for us to leave our homes. The TT government needs to do an analysis of what their market needs and Trinidadians becoming bilingual could increase trade with Latin America.”

Diquez further stressed, “Venezuelans want to work; they want to belong. We have specialised professionals doing construction work locally when they can do so much more to build the economy of TT.”

The registration process which began on May 31 till June 14 saw more than 16,000 Venezuelans registered. Last Thursday, National Security Minister Stuart Young said registration cards have been prepared are to be issued soon.

The discussion on migrants was initiated by Hannah Gabrielle Katwaroo, 29, who serves on the Caribbean and the Americas Regional Committee of the Commonwealth Youth Council.

“A part of our mandate deals with strengthening youth participation, awareness and advocacy around key issues that are happening locally and regionally. This is just the start of a series of sessions we will be running called the Brown Bag Sessions,” she told Sunday Newsday.

Asked how they got a group of 60 young men and women to attend the event, Katwaroo said they used their social media networks such as Facebook, Instagram and official emails. “The 2 Cents Movement was a big help, the Knowledge Bank of Trinidad and Tobago, colleagues from the Living Water Community and colleagues from various NGOs. The support has been tremendous.”

“Essentially the goal is to have young people think more and engage in credible information and to be able to filter credible information and sense out of what is being circulated on social media. I know we exist within a very laid-back culture, where there is a lot if picong floating around. I really hope that when people leave here they leave informed, empowered to support a vulnerable population and they leave enthusiastic about wanting to be engaged in something positive.”

The discussion began with an icebreaker called the Gallery Walk Exercise which encouraged young people in attendance to think about various thought-provoking quotes and images pertaining to the Venezuelan crisis and then write their own thoughts on the issue.

The comments and images came from different newspaper articles and posts from social media platforms.

“Some the images were taken while on the field doing work with refugees and asylum seekers as well as there are images from a recent art therapy project with Unicef, Living Water Community in collaboration with Medulla Art Gallery,” said Katwaroo.


https://newsday.co.tt/2019/07/21/vzuelans-have-rights-too/

d rite is to stay here for 1 year and get the fork back to venezuela when the one year done. pressure muduro to fix venezuela first instead and wanna pressure the trinidad people to give allyuh rights to high paying jobs and schooling, go mc venezuela and demand muduro provide schooling and high paying jobz. 16 years heidi living here but she loyality is still to venezuela den get the fork back to venezuela and fight muduro.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby hydroep » July 21st, 2019, 4:53 am

^Honestly, it doesn't appear as if there's any intention to send them back.

The whole registration process, year amnesty etc. is just a ploy to get people accustomed to their presence. Within the grace period movements like this appealing to citizens' "humanity" will prop up adding subtle pressure on T&T society to relax restrictions and further integration.

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Postby sMASH » July 21st, 2019, 6:09 am



send who home.. who goin back??

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby stev » July 21st, 2019, 6:22 am

well this is interesting...

IMO...even the music is as corny as it gets...lol

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby hydroep » July 21st, 2019, 8:15 pm

248 V’zuelans demand another chance to register
Pre-action letter sent to National Security Minister
Jada Loutoo

ATTORNEYS for 248 Venezuelans, who were unable to register during the Government’s two-week registration exercise in June, are asking the Minister of National Security to allow them to do so in the next 21 days.

The group are also asking that, once they are registered, they get their registration cards so that they can work for one year in TT, as well as assure that they are not deported if they are allowed to be registered.

In a pre-action protocol letter sent to Minister Stuart Young on Thursday, attorneys Keith Scotland and Jacqueline Chang said the 248 encountered problems to register during the two-week registration process which began on May 31.

According to the attorneys, who gave the minister seven days in which to respond to the letter, said it was no fault of their clients that they could not register.

Chang, who wrote the letter, said the 248 were all residing in TT at the time of the registration process and had a legitimate expectation that they would be allowed to register because of the announcements and promises made by the Government prior to the start of the process.

They said the affected Venezuelans believed that the process of registration amounted to an amnesty for those in TT at the time of the process and once they were registered, their immigration status here could be regularised.

According to Chang, the 248, all of whom have documentation to prove they were in TT and were asylum seekers with the UNHCR, were unable to access the online forms on the website which crashed frequently, and when they went to the centres, they encountered other problems there.

Among those problems were only 850 people were registered daily, despite there being thousands in line; centres closed before 5 pm, and on some days as early as 2 pm; the centres were overcrowded and inaccessible; some of them were turned away and told to come back, day after day, to no avail’ others who left the lines to use the toilets were unable to re-join the line and some in the line were not able to register when the centre closed at 5 pm as was the case for those who went to the Port of Spain Centre at the Queen’s Park Oval.

Chang also pointed out that although the Government knew that the estimated number of Venezuelans in TT was about 40,000, the process, “though extended to all persons, paradoxically only envisaged a registration of 28,000.”

She further pointed out that at the conclusion of the registration exercise, only 16,543 Venezuelans were registered, “far less than the amount estimated to be in the country (40,000) and less than anticipated by the Government itself (28,000).

Chang told the minister there was a settled position enunciated by the Privy Council which applied favourably to migrants in countries in instances where a Government has delivered “unequivocal” representations and promises as the TT Government had prior to the registration process.

She said the 248 had a legitimate expectation they would not be denied access to centres and were now under the threat of deportation, which, if that happens, would be tantamount to an unlawful, irrational and unreasonable act.”

Chang said the Government’s registration process implemented “simply was not efficacious to facilitate the intended objective.”


https://newsday.co.tt/2019/07/21/248-vzuelans-demand-another-chance-to-register/

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » July 21st, 2019, 8:42 pm

Thank you to the T&T govt for extending so much assistance to these Venezuelans.

Also thank you locals for making this happen with your tax dollars.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby rspann » July 21st, 2019, 8:53 pm

MaxPower wrote:Thank you to the T&T govt for extending so much assistance to these Venezuelans.

Also thank you locals for making this happen with your tax dollars.


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