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UNC 2.0?!?!?!

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 8:06 am

Looks like silver fox gonna form his own party...he says watch on may 20...in other words...pnm victory in 2020...my lord
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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby VexXx Dogg » May 9th, 2018, 10:18 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Looks like silver fox gonna form his own party...he says watch on may 20...in other words...pnm victory in 2020...my lord

I interpreted it differently.
He chose his words carefully, I suspect that Mikela may be launching something.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 10:23 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Looks like silver fox gonna form his own party...he says watch on may 20...in other words...pnm victory in 2020...my lord

I interpreted it differently.
He chose his words carefully, I suspect that Mikela may be launching something.


either way....a third party won't really survive.....unless real big boys pelting out $$$...PNM here to stay for some time

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby VexXx Dogg » May 9th, 2018, 10:30 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Looks like silver fox gonna form his own party...he says watch on may 20...in other words...pnm victory in 2020...my lord

I interpreted it differently.
He chose his words carefully, I suspect that Mikela may be launching something.


either way....a third party won't really survive.....unless real big boys pelting out $$$...PNM here to stay for some time



There are already more than 3.
COP is still active (LOL)
PEP is throwing their hat into the ring (More LOL)
Kamla is making plenty heavy promises that are unsustainable, but appeal to grassroots.
PNM generally falling out of favour with the populace, but trinis have 3 day memory and 2020 is some time off.
Unless this new party has some heavy hitting defectors, I don't see much impact. Panday's name is still gold among grassroot supporters, so his endorsement can pull votes.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 10:49 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
VexXx Dogg wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Looks like silver fox gonna form his own party...he says watch on may 20...in other words...pnm victory in 2020...my lord

I interpreted it differently.
He chose his words carefully, I suspect that Mikela may be launching something.


either way....a third party won't really survive.....unless real big boys pelting out $$$...PNM here to stay for some time



There are already more than 3.
COP is still active (LOL)
PEP is throwing their hat into the ring (More LOL)
Kamla is making plenty heavy promises that are unsustainable, but appeal to grassroots.
PNM generally falling out of favour with the populace, but trinis have 3 day memory and 2020 is some time off.
Unless this new party has some heavy hitting defectors, I don't see much impact. Panday's name is still gold among grassroot supporters, so his endorsement can pull votes.


lehme rephrase again lol...

a third party to win an election on it's own...a third party consisting of more old UNC people would only take away votes from tanty kams resulting in a split vote(remember what Dookeran tried)

COP, idk nah...lol

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 9th, 2018, 11:24 am

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby The_Honourable » May 9th, 2018, 11:45 am

Devant: ‘Panday’ party could split UNC votes

FORMER minister Devant Maharaj has expressed concern that a new party formed by former prime minister Basdeo Panday and his daughter Mickela could split UNC votes in the 2020 general election.

Panday, in a telephone interview, said his daughter Mickela, former Oropouche West MP, and a group of young people had decided to call a symposium, whose purpose was to find out what was to be done for young people of the nation. Panday said young people were lost and were searching for hope. He reported that he would be at the meeting, which is scheduled for May 20.

“It may result in a political party,” he said.

On Maharaj’s concerns about this potential party splitting the UNC vote, Panday responded that the Kamla Persad-Bissessar UNC might split votes and prevent other parties from winning.

On his own planned involvement in this party, Panday said if the members required advice from him, he would willingly give it.

Asked if he might contest a seat, he said, “They may not offer me any.” Panday said he had never left active politics, though he had not been engaged in electoral politics for some time.

“I have never give up my struggle to make this country a better place for all of us to live in. I will always continue to do that.”

Asked about possibly returning to electoral politics, he said, “I do not know what is going to happen.” Panday said he was thankful to Maharaj for popularising the meeting on May 20.

Mickela Panday could not be contacted yesterday by phone or WhatsApp, but she posted on her Facebook page a photo of a poster for the event called “It’s Time,” which included the tag lines “to be heard”, “to effect change”, “to make a difference”, and “to improve our people’s lives.”

In a media release yesterday, Maharaj said businessmen from South and Central had been contacting his office to express their “deep and worrisome concerns” over Panday’s impending political activity.

He said on May 20 at Gaston Court, Chaguanas, “Basdeo Panday will be hosting a meeting to gauge the political backing that either he or his daughter Mickela Panday has in the traditional base of the United National Congress. Should the support of that and other subsequent meetings seem to the encouraging for the Pandays and that they have enough support, the intention is to launch a political party before the next general election in 2020.”

Maharaj reported that Panday has told some people he is inspired by Malaysia’s former premier Mahathir Mohamad, who at 92, was announced in January as the Pakatan Harapan candidate for Prime Minister for the upcoming 2018 election.

“Panday also sees this option as the only viable option for a political future for Mickela as it is felt that the Kamla-led UNC has rejected (her). This new political entity is being viewed as the only option left to the Pandays and their political survival.”

Source: http://newsday.co.tt/2018/05/08/devant- ... ion-votes/

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 11:48 am

believe it or not, it still have die hard silver fox fans out there

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Postby zoom rader » May 9th, 2018, 12:11 pm

Jah bless PNM for wining in 2020. Love when the black man suffers

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Postby matr1x » May 9th, 2018, 12:16 pm

They love to suffer. Pnm, people not moving

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 12:59 pm

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Postby chillaxing » May 9th, 2018, 1:05 pm

I agree that they will pull unc voters....
But i also agree they will shock pnm by taking alot of their voters also.She is young and allegedly has a clean slate,so it will be interesting we all see what unc and pnm could do lets see what her campaign will look like and ideas for a better governance for t&t.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby zoom rader » May 9th, 2018, 1:09 pm

matr1x wrote:They love to suffer. Pnm, people not moving
That's the point they will never move.
60 years of PNM and the black man remains behind. Got to love PNM

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Re: Panday To Start New Political Party?

Postby The_Honourable » May 9th, 2018, 1:09 pm

In Indo-trini politics, if you get fedup of the leader you run off and create a new party fracturing the parent party which never truly dies. Once the leader changes, the breakaways go back to the parent party and get reabsorbed. They die a natural death during the re-absorption process, when they try to break off again or by the electorate.

This is going to be 2007 all over again.

When people were fedup with Panday, COP was born led by Dookeran and that split the vote in 2007 elections. Once Panday left many went back "home". COP was unofficially reabsorbed into the UNC during the partnership years to the point they were indistinguishable except the party colors yellow and white. They trying to separate after the 2015 defeat but that party is dead.

It is going to be hard for a UNC spinoff to gain the Afro-vote unless the leader is THAT charismatic and Growley ultimately facks up. Jack Warner was that guy but his FIFA sins caught up with him. That unwavering PNM loyalty is still there even though more and more afro-trinis are questioning it.
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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby RedVEVO » May 9th, 2018, 2:17 pm

zoom rader wrote:
matr1x wrote:They love to suffer. Pnm, people not moving
That's the point they will never move.
60 years of PNM and the black man remains behind. Got to love PNM


And red woman controlling black man :D

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby De Dragon » May 9th, 2018, 2:26 pm

Mikela Panday's hitching her political fortunes to her father's legacy could also backfire spectacularly. Many people were rubbed, and are still being rubbed the wrong way by the Silver Fox.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 2:33 pm

what he said^...

got to admire PNM politicians...look how marlene and hinds does get kick up all over the place....they still die hard PNM...them a forming no next party...

if you tell ah UNC MP hull he MC....he going and buss files and form a new party

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby Dizzy28 » May 9th, 2018, 2:33 pm

Vasant is forming his own party. He has had several meetings already with disenchanted persons from the 201-2015 PP.
Something will be announced soon.

Mikela may very well be part of the that as she and Vasant are close.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 2:34 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Vasant is forming his own party. He has had several meetings already with disenchanted persons from the 201-2015 PP.
Something will be announced soon.

Mikela may very well be part of the that as she and Vasant are close.


Fuad khan could very well be in that as well

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby D Diesel Report » May 9th, 2018, 4:34 pm

Boy, its a democracy. I say now that it have about 6 or 7 third parties now, PNM supporters have no excuse to support PNM anymore. Before they said, nah boy, UNC is crap and COP is UNC.

But now they have choice for so. If they vote PNM again, is because they thought it was a intelligence multiple choice exam and teacher say PNM is the right choice. :drinking: :drinking:

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby randolphinshan » May 9th, 2018, 4:47 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Vasant is forming his own party. He has had several meetings already with disenchanted persons from the 201-2015 PP.
Something will be announced soon.

Mikela may very well be part of the that as she and Vasant are close.


Wish them luck. Anything and I mean anything is better than Aunty's K and her BANDIT friends. Trust me on that.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby TriP » May 9th, 2018, 4:52 pm

Great is the PNM - Pandey N' Mikela :lol:

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Postby eurotuner » May 9th, 2018, 5:15 pm

oh boy, another 5 years of Rowley.

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Postby antlind » May 9th, 2018, 5:57 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Looks like silver fox gonna form his own party...he says watch on may 20...in other words...pnm victory in 2020...my lord


Keithos must be happy. Indian like crab in a barrel.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby RedVEVO » May 9th, 2018, 6:00 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:what he said^...

got to admire PNM politicians...look how marlene and hinds does get kick up all over the place....they still die hard PNM...them a forming no next party...

if you tell ah UNC MP hull he MC....he going and buss files and form a new party


Who would follow Hinds & Marlene ? :!:

Beetham & Sea Lots ?

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Postby greggle71 » May 9th, 2018, 6:38 pm

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby pugboy » May 9th, 2018, 6:41 pm

political parties usually take at least two elections to gain traction and recognition
COP is an example of this until they cut off their balls voluntarily

Wonder if PEP still considering themselves a viable alternative

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby sMASH » May 9th, 2018, 7:11 pm

well, that is it there folks... pnm fo-evah..

there are unc die-hards, and there are panday faithfuls. bas will only pull votes away from unc, no matter who the figure head is... once he there, he pulling a portion.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 8:07 pm

RedVEVO wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:what he said^...

got to admire PNM politicians...look how marlene and hinds does get kick up all over the place....they still die hard PNM...them a forming no next party...

if you tell ah UNC MP hull he MC....he going and buss files and form a new party


Who would follow Hinds & Marlene ? :!:

Beetham & Sea Lots ?


Both ah dem have two sure seats eh

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby VexXx Dogg » May 9th, 2018, 8:17 pm

Taking bets that this party will prolly do better than PEP and COP combined.

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