UNC 2.0?!?!?!

[Redman]

UNC voters hate PNM but none of them asking UNC to up their game and become a better option.
If you love the party you have to demand better.

Looking at the responses it’s impossible to get past 4 legs good 2 legs bad.

[zoom rader]

UNC voters hate PNM but none of them asking UNC to up their game and become a better option.
If you love the party you have to demand better.

Looking at the responses it’s impossible to get past 4 legs good 2 legs bad.

Yeah left foot , right foot

[VII]

Have been shouting it for years,just wanted someone else to..

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10223986756481885&id=1387160323&notif_t=comment_mention&notif_id=1598744533202279&ref=page_internal

Clown Anil.

She's total class,tore him a new rectum.

How come UNC dont have Injuns like her though ?

The UNC is unable to attract any substance....until the party shows direction why would any one opt to risk their reputation.

Anil is just there to be the rable rouser.....to force the speakers hand into harsh measures, then cry fowl.

He will cost the UNC more than he is worth.

[Redman]

UNC voters hate PNM but none of them asking UNC to up their game and become a better option.
If you love the party you have to demand better.

Looking at the responses it’s impossible to get past 4 legs good 2 legs bad.

Yeah left foot , right foot

Yep you and the Grand Lizard epitomize this.

Meanwhile the 5 years now start.

[zoom rader]

One sent PNM ppl in a UNC chead calling for change yet still they silent on the clowns and old crooks in the PNM

Expect more PNM ppl asking Hinds for a 20.

[Redman]

One sent PNM ppl in a UNC chead calling for change yet still they silent on the clowns and old crooks in the PNM

Expect more PNM ppl asking Hinds for a 20.

Well it is a thread titled.....RE: UNC 2.0!?!?!?

You should let that sink in, it will clarify things a bit.
I hope

[zoom rader]

One sent PNM ppl in a UNC chead calling for change yet still they silent on the clowns and old crooks in the PNM

Expect more PNM ppl asking Hinds for a 20.

Well it is a thread titled.....RE: UNC 2.0!?!?!?

You should let that sink in, it will clarify things a bit.
I hope

UNC could change how much they want , you and the rest of PNM ppl not going to vote for them.

[Redman]

One sent PNM ppl in a UNC chead calling for change yet still they silent on the clowns and old crooks in the PNM

Expect more PNM ppl asking Hinds for a 20.

Well it is a thread titled.....RE: UNC 2.0!?!?!?

You should let that sink in, it will clarify things a bit.
I hope

UNC could change how much they want , you and the rest of PNM ppl not going to vote for them.

Says the only clown that says 'I voting anything other than the PNM.

The Blackest pot bamsee calling everything else black.

Do so dont like so.

Youre exactly what you complaining about.

[zoom rader]

One sent PNM ppl in a UNC chead calling for change yet still they silent on the clowns and old crooks in the PNM

Expect more PNM ppl asking Hinds for a 20.

Well it is a thread titled.....RE: UNC 2.0!?!?!?

You should let that sink in, it will clarify things a bit.
I hope

UNC could change how much they want , you and the rest of PNM ppl not going to vote for them.

Says the only clown that says 'I voting anything other than the PNM.

The Blackest pot bamsee calling everything else black.

Do so dont like so.

Youre exactly what you complaining about.

When PNM stops discrimination , blantant lies and pandering to people that look like the PNM prime minster then my options are open.

Until then I will vote for other parties than PNM.

[eliteauto]

I see Devant Maharaj has done a full about-face, being the king of swing he's gone from race baiting and insult hurling and fake news spreading to presenting an entire manuscript about rebuilding the UNC to have a wider appeal, something that ironically is lost on many here because those that speak it are perceived as PNM, hence the double-down by some here on the same losing strategies. I see some are saying his suggestions are similar to those undertaken by the PNM post-Manning.
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UNC PARTY REFORM REQUIRED
Devant Maharaj

Historically while the UNC has a written Constitution it is often used to buttress the leadership and the positions of the leadership. The democracy within the party’s framework as a natural consequence is sacrificed for the paramountcy of the party. This under Kamla UNC has been further perverted to the extent that the Party has been reduced to a support group for the leadership where positions and promises of power are bartered for loyalty facilitating the rise of cronyism and nepotism. Everything has been cheapened to a perversion of transactional politics.

It is self-evident that the convulsions and disquiet within the walls of the Kamla UNC are a symptom of a deep-rooted dysfunction. This points to an urgent and immediate need for some degree of introspection and retrospection of the party is Constitution, which has not changed since its formation. The identity of the UNC is synonymous with only the UNC Members of Parliament however-the party has to have an identity and voice of its own which can support the Parliamentary presence.

Since making the call for Kamla to step down as political leader many have not only supported the call but also made suggestions to enhance the democracy within the party and make it reflective of the membership political will.

PARTY DEMOCRACY

One of the loudest cries has been that the voice of the UNC membership is not reflected in the final decision-making process. It is as if once the political leader and national executive is elected that the will and expression of the membership is forgotten and a paternalistic position adopted by the officeholders. There is, therefore, a need to insert into the Constitution provisions enshrined and entrenched to ensure that the membership democratic expression is not stifled with backroom deals.

The member, party group, and constituency executive opinions and views must trickle upwards and inform the national executive and political leader. Currently, the reverse holds true in that a position is taken at the top and the subordinate levels of the party advised accordingly. In the recent 2020 General Elections, many of the constituency executives’ recommendations for potential candidates were simply discarded and an unknown candidate foisted on them to now rally around. This outmoded managerial approach was similarly employed with the 2019 local government elections as well as other previous elections. The suppression of the democratic voice of the membership is manifested in the atrophy of the party groups and constituency executives. The role, function and quantity of Party Groups, therefore, needs to be operationalised and this can only be done with allowing for democracy to germinate.

PARTY ORGANS

The suppression of the democracy in the party is further manifested in the failure of the various organs of the party to function. The Youth Arm and Women’s Arm now appear to be extensions of the public relations mechanism of the political leader while the Party School has been closed for decades. Article 11 of the UNC Constitution states that the National Congress shall meet every three (3) months yet this does not happen. Similarly, the National Assembly is equally truncated. These two events should be specified in the Constitution as to when they should meet (eg second Sunday in January) and an automatic penalty on the National Executive imposed if there is a failure (such as the removal of the Party Organizer and Elections Officer)

The national executive of the party elected life came to an end in November 2019 yet it continued to operate as if it had the legal and moral mandate so to do. There was no body or organ of the party to alert the membership or leadership that there was a need for an election. The party, therefore, has to have mechanisms in place to automatically trigger when elections are constitutionally due and that mechanism be insulated from manipulation. Of course in the event of a national or local elections on the national stage, any party election should be suspended until three months afterwards.

ELIMINATION OF NON-ELECTED POLITICAL POSITIONS

Positions of the General Secretary and Public Relations Officer are appointed positions and as such beholden to who appointed them namely the political leader. This should be changed to becoming elected positions as is with the rest of the national executive.

NEW NATEX POSITIONS

LEGAL OFFICER:- Given the litigious nature of elections in recent past the national executive should also include a Legal Officer. Additionally this position can serve as the focal point for FOIA applications and guidance

DEPUTY POLITICAL LEADER TOBAGO:- The party must at all-time be projected as a national institution and as such participate in nation building events and participate in the national elections in all of the constituencies wherever possible including Tobago. As a National Party recognizing the unique position Tobago has in the unitary state of Trinidad and Tobago the creation of a Tobago Affairs Officer is long overdue.

SOCIAL MEDIA OFFICER:- The composition of the national executive and downward (constituency executive, etc. ) should also be expanded to include a Social Media Officer in keeping with the changing technology and communication effectiveness.


INTERNAL ELECTIONS

The constitution is silent on the details of how party elections are to be conducted and in the past, this have facilitated allegations of various forms of election irregularity. This deficiency in the Constitution should be remedied.

NOMINATION PROCESS:- The inclusion that the nomination process and deadlines be advertised in at least one daily newspaper, on the party website, emailed/WhatsApp etc. so that the membership is aware.

MEMBERSHIP LIST:- The membership list should be provided to all those contending the election no later than six weeks before the election. Membership less than a specified time (such as six months) will not qualify to participate in any party election or hold office accordingly.

FIXED DATE FOR INTERNAL ELECTION :- A specified day for Political Leader, National Executive and Constituency Election be defined such as the first Sunday in November for Political Leader, third Saturday in March for National Executive etc.

AFTER LOSING A GENERAL ELECTION:- In the event that a National General Elections is held and lost by the Party the Political Leader shall tender his resignation to the party immediately via a National Congress who shall decide if to accept or reject the resignation.

NATEX NON-PARLIAMENTARIANS

It is now common that members of the National Executive also hold positions in the Parliament as Members of the House of Representatives or Senators. This despite the 2005 National Congress resolution that no member of the NatEx should be a Member of Parliament. There is the obvious hoarding of and potential abuse of influence with this. As such, no National Executive shall be allowed to be a Member of Parliament and continue serving on the National Executive.

RIGHT OF RECALL

There should also be consideration for the right of recall for all office holders in the party by the membership. This recall should be based a percentage of votes the office holder obtained for example 60%. The threshold be high enough so as it would not be abused and low enough so it can be effective.

TERM LIMITS

There shall be a term limit on the Political Leader for no more than four (4) terms of three (3) years each therefore a maximum of twelve years. There shall be a term limit for the national executive of five (5) terms of two (2) years therefore a maximum of ten (10) years.

STAR CHAMBER

The 30-year-old UNC has had many distinguished members serving at various levels of national development in addition to their own personal accomplishments. Yet having served they are often no longer seen within the party and as such the benefit of their experience does not continue within the party. As such it is recommended that the Party establish a new organ – The Star Chamber- in which all public office holders of the UNC are automatic members (councillors, aldermen, chairmen, board members, senators, MPs, party officers etc.) . This model can serve as a template for the development of other similar bodies to include professionals and university students.

INCUMBATOR COMMITTEE

Given the importance of particular constituencies defined as marginal seats in the UNC forming government, it is critical that the Party provide thoughtful attention to these constituencies. It is recommended that an Incubator Committee be established with the sole focus of the marginal seats continuously. The Party recognizing the critical importance of the marginal seats the Party must identify and screen potential candidates at least two years before an election is constitutionally due, thereby allowing the Party the best possible electoral chance.

PARTY OFFICERS RESPONSIBILITY

Each of the respective national executive officer holders where applicable shall organized quarterly meetings with their respective counterparts at the constituency level. For example, the Party Youth Officer shall hold a quarterly meeting of all constituency youth officers organizers sharing what is the thinking of the NatEx and listening to the concerns and suggestions of the various youth officers nationally.

CONCLUSION

As one of the two major parties in the nation, it is simply unacceptable that the UNC rents its headquarters above a supermarket and opposite a funeral home. The party has to have as a critical objective owning a property for its base of operations.

These are just a few suggestions to begin the conversation to improve the performance of the UNC to improve the chances of successes in the next general elections.

[paid_influencer]

never though I'd say this but..

Devant Maharaj absolutely right. PNM will piss their pants if Devant's reforms are adopted.

[VII]

Hinds is a supreme assshole and I was happy when he got doused in Beetham flood water.

One sent PNM ppl in a UNC chead calling for change yet still they silent on the clowns and old crooks in the PNM

Expect more PNM ppl asking Hinds for a 20.

[VII]

Despite his past misguided positions I could support Devant,some people just needs lil more time to really mature and blossom.

He has been very honest and forthright througout the recent debacle,so much so his own Indian people of the sycophant sheep variety has been calling for his head literally on a platter.. that alone says he's on the right track..

I could consider voting for this Devant .

[zoom rader]

Hinds is a supreme assshole and I was happy when he got doused in Beetham flood water.

One sent PNM ppl in a UNC chead calling for change yet still they silent on the clowns and old crooks in the PNM

Expect more PNM ppl asking Hinds for a 20.

Failgerald happy too, hes back in office thanks to you

[Redman]

never though I'd say this but..

Devant Maharaj absolutely right. PNM will piss their pants if Devant's reforms are adopted.

We need a strong opposition.
We need more quality in parliament.

The question here is if a person will accept good governance from the other party.
And if the other party does well....to vote for them.

Too many will be unable to digest that.

[zoom rader]

never though I'd say this but..

Devant Maharaj absolutely right. PNM will piss their pants if Devant's reforms are adopted.

We need a strong opposition.
We need more quality in parliament.

The question here is if a person will accept good governance from the other party.
And if the other party does well....to vote for them.

Too many will be unable to digest that.

You don't need a strong opposition

All you need is enough members to block bills

[16 cycles]

blocking bills helps no one....suggestions to make legislation stronger for all of T&T might be a better option unless the bill itself infringes on constitutional rights amongst other reasons..

[zoom rader]

blocking bills helps no one....suggestions to make legislation stronger for all of T&T might be a better option unless the bill itself infringes on constitutional rights amongst other reasons..

Our constitutional rights are slowly been eaten away.

[De Dragon]

Devant is an opportunist, plain and simple.How come his new found lust for change was absent until a UNC loss was confirmed? He'd have a lot more credibility if he had taken this position pre-GE, but I suspect he was fence sitting and now that the race is run, he's suddenly a change agent?

[The_Honourable]

Devant is an opportunist, plain and simple. How come his new found lust for change was absent until a UNC loss was confirmed? He'd have a lot more credibility if he had taken this position pre-GE, but I suspect he was fence sitting and now that the race is run, he's suddenly a change agent?

Thank you!

He was participating in Kamla's shenanigans before elections and after the loss he switch quick.

He sounds good but not to be trusted.

[paid_influencer]

Devant is an opportunist, plain and simple.How come his new found lust for change was absent until a UNC loss was confirmed? He'd have a lot more credibility if he had taken this position pre-GE, but I suspect he was fence sitting and now that the race is run, he's suddenly a change agent?

during the election campaign, Devant went on PEP live streams and talked in length about issues with the structure of the opposition. I gave up hours of my life to watch them. It is no real big change in position for him.

De Dragon, put Devant aside, do the reforms make sense to you?

[agent007]

Well said. I join with Larry Lalla and reiterate that KPB must step down and take Anil with her otherwise 2025 will just be another win for PNM

UNC voters hate PNM but none of them asking UNC to up their game and become a better option.
If you love the party you have to demand better.

[De Dragon]

Devant is an opportunist, plain and simple.How come his new found lust for change was absent until a UNC loss was confirmed? He'd have a lot more credibility if he had taken this position pre-GE, but I suspect he was fence sitting and now that the race is run, he's suddenly a change agent?

during the election campaign, Devant went on PEP live streams and talked in length about issues with the structure of the opposition. I gave up hours of my life to watch them. It is no real big change in position for him.

De Dragon, put Devant aside, do the reforms make sense to you?

Yes but our road to now literal hell has been paved with these "reforms" How the AF can you adopt a manifesto, deliberately littered with empty promises as official GORTT policy like the PNM has just done? Hindsight is 2020, but Devant and his ilk showed no inclination to such change when they were in office, and had the ear of those in charge.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/ramdial-knocks-k ... tion-loss/

Easy easy the truth does come out. Now allyuh seeing how and why and at the hands of whom she lost

[agent007]

When UNC candidates don't get re-selected, they get vex and either with-hold their vote or switch parties. When PNM candidates get rejected, they run back to the polls, stain their fingers and shout great is the PNM. She have a 2000 signature petition and sections of Couva North looks like Chernobyl and Aleppo. Hear what Ramona, join Carolyn in the corpse and see if you could make a difference or better yet, form your own party and show us what a successful campaign would look like. Outside of that, you are just like Ian Bishop and Daren Ganga, sheit cricketers who have all the talk as commentators but little/no action back when they were players.

[Redman]

Agent- it might have to do with the fact that the PNM PARTY has a structure and a tangibility....so candidates or ex candidates still buy into the vision-and like youve said contribute in different ways.

or they feel that they will get rolled over by the party machinery.

either way the have a loyalty to the organism that is the PNM.

The UNC has to stabilise and institutionalise itself....create its own culture.

[zoom rader]

Agent- it might have to do with the fact that the PNM PARTY has a structure and a tangibility....so candidates or ex candidates still buy into the vision-and like youve said contribute in different ways.

or they feel that they will get rolled over by the party machinery.

either way the have a loyalty to the organism that is the PNM.

The UNC has to stabilise and institutionalise itself....create its own culture.

Bull chit

PNM always said any candidate failed at the polls they don't put them in goverment.

Here we see failed PNM candidates in the Cabinet and Senators.

PNM dont follow their rules

[Redman]

Uhm...read what Agent posted ..I responded to that post.
Calm down.

[zoom rader]

Uhm...read what Agent posted ..I responded to that post.
Calm down.

Yes you said "PNM PARTY has a structure and a tangibility".

Yet still they don't follow their own rules

[Redman]

If that is a 'rule' then they dont.
Which has ZERO impact on their structure, tangibility or what Agent was saying.

You harping on that as if its material....Which political party follows their own rules?