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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 9th, 2018, 8:35 pm

LMFAO

PNM winning 2020 easy like that, so now we have COP AND Panday splitting the UNC votes? AHHAHAHA you couldn't make this up nah

Bess we start learning to love the PNM from now yes, Panday really did say when Kamla lose the 2015 election the UNC will be dead, he was right.... Little did we know Panday and COP was planning to kill the UNC all along :|
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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 8:36 pm

Might retain couva north....I interested in the sponsors and the line up of "new" people...I could see gaston courts filled with plenty curious people

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 9th, 2018, 8:39 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Might retain couva north....I interested in the sponsors and the line up of "new" people...I could see gaston courts filled with plenty curious people


Panday is 84 years old, where he getting all that energy from to go around the country late hours in the night etc

Retain couva north? at this rate PNM will win Couva North

The UNC dead for sure now, the only thing to save them is for them to get a new constitution and fire Kamla and the whole cabal and put a black woman as political leader. Anything short of that is a PNM victory by a 2/3 majority in 2020 then allyuh go see pressure.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 8:44 pm

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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Might retain couva north....I interested in the sponsors and the line up of "new" people...I could see gaston courts filled with plenty curious people


Panday is 84 years old, where he getting all that energy from to go around the country late hours in the night etc

Retain couva north? at this rate PNM will win Couva North

The UNC dead for sure now, the only thing to save them is for them to get a new constitution and fire Kamla and the whole cabal and put a black woman as political leader. Anything short of that is a PNM victory by a 2/3 majority in 2020 then allyuh go see pressure.


Well mikela that is....silver fox may end up being the guidance while mikela is the leader...she could take that seat from ramona

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 9th, 2018, 8:46 pm

^ let us say she does, how exactly she plans on winning the East West Corridor?

And as it stands CoP say how them fighting EVERY Seat by themselves. Just imagine if Mikela say she going and fight every seat by sheself also, ROFL AHHAHAHAHAHA the UNC is fcked....

The only hope we have now is for Rowley and Imbutt to stop being dotish and incompetent

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 9th, 2018, 8:48 pm

Bottom line ED....start preparing for pnm life beyond 2020...providing silver fox et al do what they sounding like they want to do.. 2020 elections would be very predictable

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 9th, 2018, 8:50 pm

Well time to change the title of this thread since Both panday forming he own party to split votes and CoP going and fight every seat theyself thereby ensuring the splitting of UNC votes and putting the PNM back in power in 2020.

Anybody who vote CoP or Panday party hadda be real dotish.

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Postby RedVEVO » May 9th, 2018, 10:55 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Might retain couva north....I interested in the sponsors and the line up of "new" people...I could see gaston courts filled with plenty curious people


Panday is 84 years old, where he getting all that energy from to go around the country late hours in the night etc

Retain couva north? at this rate PNM will win Couva North

The UNC dead for sure now, the only thing to save them is for them to get a new constitution and fire Kamla and the whole cabal and put a black woman as political leader. Anything short of that is a PNM victory by a 2/3 majority in 2020 then allyuh go see pressure.


Jerlean John :D ?

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Postby MarlonSam » May 10th, 2018, 12:24 am

VexXx Dogg wrote:Taking bets that this party will prolly do better than PEP and COP combined.


Only if Basedo Panday runs as Political Leader. :evilbat:

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby zoom rader » May 10th, 2018, 2:22 am

RedVEVO wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:what he said^...

got to admire PNM politicians...look how marlene and hinds does get kick up all over the place....they still die hard PNM...them a forming no next party...

if you tell ah UNC MP hull he MC....he going and buss files and form a new party


Who would follow Hinds & Marlene ? :!:

Beetham & Sea Lots ?
And eleitauto

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Postby Daran » May 10th, 2018, 2:33 am

Sigh up to now allyuh doh know what every 3rd party goal is? Especially this party.

Power struggle within the ranks of UNC. After the 2007 COP fiasco, UNC will have to negotiate with any powerful 3rd party.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby The_Honourable » May 10th, 2018, 2:50 am

Lee Sing anxious over Pandays’ meeting

Former PNM minister Mariano Browne has been invited to the upcoming meeting involving the Basdeo Panday family which will explore new political possibilities - but he says he will be out of T&T.

However, ex-mayor Louis Lee Sing, says he would attend the meeting if he was invited.

Browne yesterday confirmed that he had been invited.

“But I already had something on overseas,” he added.

Browne declined to comment on the May 20 meeting.

Former prime minister Basdeo Panday and his daughter Mickela will spearhead the meeting at Gaston Court, Chaguanas.

Panday said it was being held by a number of young people who want to seek a direction, politically.

It is widely speculated the meeting - open to the public - is being held to assess possible chances for a new political party and for Mickela Panday to lead this. On Tuesday, Panday didn’t rule out a new party being formed.

Lee Sing said, “If I get an invitation I’ll attend. Anything that represents the possibility of a better political future for T&T remains of interest to me,” he said.

“Mr Panday still has an important role to play in the politics of T&T and I think the same applies to Ms Panday,” he said.

“As to whether she is the best person to take T&T in a direction of peace, harmony and stability and offer the country discipline, tolerance and productivity, is left to be seen. So we have to be cautious on how we move from where we are as we have - time and again - jumped from the frying pan into the fire,” Lee Sing said.

Lee Sing added, “Many people have leadership aspirations. But it’s not about being able to get up and talk and ramajay, as we’ve seen a lot of that with (Prime Minister) Keith Rowley over the years. It’s much deeper than that.”

“I hope any group prepared to present a challenge to T&T to do something better, will certainly demand of itself the best leadership it can give. So I commend all who summon troops or engage people in a possibility that offers better governance,” he said.

Link: http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2018-05- ... 99-meeting

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby Redman » May 10th, 2018, 5:26 am

I'm with Vexx Dog on this...if they do it right...and Panday Inc know how to do THIS...they could do well in 2020.

The strongest thing the PNM/UNC has is that they not the UNC/PNM.

The COP has shown they're UNC's fcuk toy.

The EBC numbers show that there are sufficient numbers of swing or unaligned voters to give a real 3rd party enough votes to matter.

What ever one can say about Panday Inc...you can't say that they stupid.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby hydroep » May 10th, 2018, 6:37 am

LOL...Panday exacting revenge on Kams. He doing to she what Dooks de do to he...:lol:

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 10th, 2018, 6:46 am

Kams prolly quaking all now.....awaits to see who jumps ship and goes to Panday

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Postby 16 cycles » May 10th, 2018, 6:55 am

During the trial, Panday repeatedly denied that he had any involvement in the London account, even though he is a signatory on it. He told the court it was CL Financial Executive Chairman Lawrence Duprey who gave his wife Oma 119,183 pounds sterling (TT$1.2 million) in November 1997, representing scholarships for two of his daughters who were studying in England.

Read more: http://www.caribbean360.com/news/trinid ... z5F5xUrTGP

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 10th, 2018, 7:11 am

I'm sure right now people looking for thing on Mikela

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby pugboy » May 10th, 2018, 7:28 am

from the responses to this lil panday announcement and thoughts of vote split dilemna etc
it is clear that the general population not happy with rowlee

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby Redman » May 10th, 2018, 7:35 am

K.Ramamine seems quite apolitical this morning.

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Postby pj15 » May 10th, 2018, 8:54 am

pugboy wrote:from the responses to this lil panday announcement and thoughts of vote split dilemna etc
it is clear that the general population not happy with rowlee


True. It's clear they're not happy with Kamla either ; if they were then there should be no vote-splitting issue....would have been Kamla all the way... Interesting times ahead.

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Postby superstainless1250 » May 10th, 2018, 9:07 am

Dizzy28 wrote:Vasant is forming his own party. He has had several meetings already with disenchanted persons from the 201-2015 PP.
Something will be announced soon.

Mikela may very well be part of the that as she and Vasant are close.
Vasant an mickela close like wen Gary was during panday time as pm? They hitting

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby pj15 » May 10th, 2018, 9:11 am

NACTA poll: Kamla slightly favoured over Rowley for PM
http://newsday.co.tt/2018/05/06/nacta-poll-kamla-slightly-favoured-over-rowley-for-pm/

OPPOSITION Leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar is slightly more favoured than Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley for this country’s Prime Minister according to a North American Caribbean Teachers Association (NACTA) poll.

NACTA said in a release the poll, conducted last month, showed there was not much of a gap between the popularity of both leaders.

“Kamla’s popularity continues to remain high among UNC loyalists while Rowley has seen declining numbers among PNM supporters.”

NACTA said the poll’s findings showed widespread dissatisfaction with the incumbent PNM government as well as the opposition UNC.

“People have lost faith in Government and Opposition politicians to improve their lives with many saying they want something new.

There is widespread voter apathy with people turned away from both major parties leaving room for a third option which is nowhere on the horizon.


The poll shows that neither party is able to garner significant support from the wide spectrum of ethnicities and religious groups outside of their voting blocs; neither one has been able to unite the nation, giving space to any rising third force.”

NACTA pointed out earlier surveys consistently showed that although the PNM is unpopular, swing voters were not drawn towards the opposition UNC, critical for electoral wins in marginal constituencies.

NACTA said the findings showed that corruption was a major issue affecting the government nationwide and other issues that worry people including crime (law and order) and the economy, specifically unemployment, inflation, agriculture, development, and salary.

“Although disgruntled with PNM governance, party supporters as well swing voters are not gravitating towards the Opposition UNC saying it needs urgent transformation with credible faces and a willingness to collaborate with other groups. At this time, the Opposition does not pose a serious threat to PNM’s re-election.”

NACTA reported the poll, conducted by Dr Vishnu Bisram, interviewed respondents randomly to represent the demographics of the population and only the views of likely voters were used in the report.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby hydroep » May 10th, 2018, 9:46 am

Kinda lost faith in NACTA after the last general elections.

On the night of the elections one of their reps was on TV with his chart, crunching figures, analyzing historical data — the whole shebang, confident of an PP/UNC victory in St. Joseph. Then, as the night progressed and it was clear that the PNM cut their arse the hosts stopped asking for his analysis. It was as if he was never there...funny as hell...:|

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Postby rspann » May 10th, 2018, 10:20 am

Imagine Panday talking about corruption.

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Postby Ben_spanna » May 10th, 2018, 10:26 am

lets HOPE and pray that come next elections all the stupid tribal voting idiots might actually grow a functioning brain and use it..............

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Postby Dizzy28 » May 10th, 2018, 10:30 am

rspann wrote:Imagine Panday talking about corruption.


Truth be told which political person can talk about it and not seem hypocritical?

They all in or were part of parties that are built on corruption and even if they didn't partake personally they stood by more or less quietly and allowed it to happen.

Even the Mighty Growley only spoke up when the sheit hit the fan at Udecott but so much more happened during his tenure as Minister of Housing and Urban Development other than that.

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby fatboy slim » May 10th, 2018, 10:45 am

PNM people are not going to vote for that stupid twit Mickela.

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Re: Panday To Start New Political Party?

Postby Rovin » May 10th, 2018, 11:34 am

The_Honourable wrote:In Indo-trini politics, if you get fedup of the leader you run off and create a new party fracturing the parent party which never truly dies. Once the leader changes, the breakaways go back to the parent party and get reabsorbed. They die a natural death during the re-absorption process, when they try to break off again or by the electorate.

This is going to be 2007 all over again.

When people were fedup with Panday, COP was born led by Dookeran and that split the vote in 2007 elections. Once Panday left many went back "home". COP was unofficially reabsorbed into the UNC during the partnership years to the point they were indistinguishable except the party colors yellow and white. They trying to separate after the 2015 defeat but that party is dead.

It is going to be hard for a UNC spinoff to gain the Afro-vote unless the leader is THAT charismatic and Growley ultimately facks up. Jack Warner was that guy but his FIFA sins caught up with him. That unwavering PNM loyalty is still there even though more and more afro-trinis are questioning it.


recent history has shown this to be accurate


as for 3rd party : not all of them sole purpose is to spite d unc , some really try to make a difference but ppl just outright reject them , they like their new concepts but only studying if they go split this side votes & d next side go win & then allawe @ss go hadda eat grass mentality

we as a ppl claim we want change but we ourselves doh wanna change , we 1 foot in we ole party & 1 foot in a new 1 saying yea to something new but when election day reach we gone back to voting back d setta ppl & expecting change ........ doing d same sh1t but expecting a different result ... :|

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby fatboy slim » May 10th, 2018, 11:39 am

^^ PNM people do not want change ^^

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Re: Panday to start new political party?

Postby Redman » May 10th, 2018, 11:56 am

fatboy slim wrote:PNM people are not going to vote for that stupid twit Mickela.

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Only a twit would feel she NEEDS PNM people to vote for her.

The numbers do not suggest that

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