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Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby maxtech » August 3rd, 2018, 6:00 am

For years they taught us that this guy discovered different places in the world. He was to be honored and adored for his efforts. But then the truth came out..... It more sounded like they hid the truth from us.....all those F-ing degrees those teachers in the past obtained was just to keep us in darkness and feed us false education.

I say rip that F-ing statue down and burn all books of that Columbus guy. He is a Major F up in history.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » August 3rd, 2018, 6:09 am

Op...you seem upset

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby rspann » August 3rd, 2018, 6:32 am

.....and put him in jail for a loooong time.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby Ben_spanna » August 3rd, 2018, 7:21 am

And how has this historic new effected you directly?? did you find out your great great great grandfather was CC????

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby RedVEVO » August 3rd, 2018, 7:29 am

Ben_spanna wrote:And how has this historic new effected you directly?? did you find out your great great great grandfather was CC????


To put it mildly .. It's historical lies.

Lies that are perpetuated by people who write history .

It's important to some people ..

People of intellect .

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » August 3rd, 2018, 7:31 am

Overall he was a brave man to travel to the unknown new world, unfortunately he crack all the natives backside with a 2x4 when he got here.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby RedVEVO » August 3rd, 2018, 7:33 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Overall he was a brave man to travel to the unknown new world, unfortunately he crack all the natives backside with a 2x4 when he got here.


How you know that ?

How you know he was brave ?

Do you know he was lost ?

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » August 3rd, 2018, 7:34 am

yeah he was brave to sail around the world so far away, the only issue is he crack everybody bamsee when he got here with a 2x4 or a penis

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby ProtonPowder » August 3rd, 2018, 7:35 am

Trinidadians are a people by and large very averse to their own history. The more of our history that they tear down because of hurt feelings will only make it seem more binary.

In 5 years we will hear that Columbus was a fan of shooting natives out of ships' cannons. We must know our history for better or worse.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby RedVEVO » August 3rd, 2018, 7:38 am

ProtonPowder wrote:Trinidadians are a people by and large very averse to their own history. The more of our history that they tear down because of hurt feelings will only make it seem more binary.

In 5 years we will hear that Columbus was a fan of shooting natives out of ships' cannons. We must know our history for better or worse.


If you have a problem with Trinidadians move back to Jamaica .

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby RedVEVO » August 3rd, 2018, 7:40 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:yeah he was brave to sail around the world so far away, the only issue is he crack everybody bamsee when he got here with a 2x4 or a penis


Do a little more research .

He was at sea , smoking and eat doubles and he got lost .

Hence he found Trinidad .

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby maj. tom » August 3rd, 2018, 7:45 am

A lot of history was written by white people when the whole "superior race" thing was never even a question. As the world becomes more educated and equal, historians will have a lot of work to do to discover the histories of the other side of the story.

Yes, the bigger picture about Columbus is now known. But he was the first human to embark on such a voyage of discovery and he should be remembered for that. And then let history books be re-written to accommodate the true story of the cruelty and injustice of post-discovery. Same with the histories of all colonial conquests. We have only been told one side of a story that affected human lives, populations and cultures.

I think we need to be aware of the mistakes that humanity has made because these things tend to repeat itself. And it's not just a matter of white vs. black race. All of human history is like that wrt to conquests. Japan vs. China. India vs. Pakistan. Rome vs. Europe, Tutsi vs. Hutu, etc.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby RedVEVO » August 3rd, 2018, 7:57 am

^^

How or Who is going to stop "humanity" from making mistakes ?

Trump making mistakes , who stopping him ?

Imbert making mistakes , who stopping him ?

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby lovescience1234 » August 3rd, 2018, 10:16 am

History is written by the victors -
Trinidad local history big time...

But back to Columbus - he also saw Venezuela - but somehow decided to go to more familiar land from voyage# 2

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby KM_2NR » August 3rd, 2018, 10:55 am

Columbus kinda badass tho , ripping thru lines of cocaine , gutzing level smallies , murdering tons of people , sounds like a fun time. Also OP eat a snickers .

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby Dizzy28 » August 3rd, 2018, 10:58 am

In for the expert tuner pseduo historical analyses!!

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby Miktay » August 3rd, 2018, 12:39 pm

Why does thiz matter?

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby maj. tom » August 3rd, 2018, 1:00 pm

OP see a youtube video and had feelz

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby Daran » August 3rd, 2018, 1:06 pm

Columbus wasn't as bad as people think. But still kinda bad. But you can't look back at history and use your present day moral compass to judge. Look at how many of you hate on homosexuals. I guarantee you your kids or grand kids will be ashamed you held those views.

Lots of people say the Europeans decimated the Amerindians. The truth is, the Spanish tired to rule through them. Normal warefare, not eradication and sub human treatment. Their concept of race was very different to us now. They thought that the natives looked different because of their diet and environment. Not because they were different people genetically. They thought if a European lived there and ate their diet, that they'd change into a native. They wanted to westernise the natives. Religion influenced their approach a lot. The two view points were either the native Americans were pure and without sin. Or the other was they were Satan's land. Either way, missionaries were needed.

In the end it was disease from the Europeans that killed out most of them. However, if you've been to central and south America you'd say plenty of natives who still live a similar culture and speak the language.

Also, while misguided as Columbus was, he was relatively smart and brave, a very ambitious pioneering person.
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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby RedVEVO » August 3rd, 2018, 1:06 pm

kM_89 wrote:Columbus kinda badass tho , ripping thru lines of cocaine , gutzing level smallies , murdering tons of people , sounds like a fun time. Also OP eat a snickers .


So you like badass murderers ?

It's fun ?

Lil Boy go to school and learn ah trade nah !

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby MaxPower » August 3rd, 2018, 7:33 pm

Columbus was OP hero....

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Postby The_Honourable » August 3rd, 2018, 9:38 pm

Columbus dead over 500 years but Kambon and his side having heartburn about his statue and colonial street names where he should be more concerned about the conditions of his "black brothers" right across the road in East POS and Laventille. How taking down a statue going to improve the life of Afro-trinis especially those in poor communities who suffer with drugs, crime, family breakdown, joblessness and a cycle of welfare? If that not hotting yuh head but Columbus statue is, something wrong.

Ok so you remove the statue, now what?
Rename colonial street names? ok cool now what?
Remove Columbus statue down Cedros too? ok now what?
Beg Government for a handout every Emancipation as we did for the past few decades. ok what else?
Talk about what the white man do we. Ok most of us know that and fedup of that talk every year. What else?
Buy this cd or dvd so you will have african knowledge cause we were kings and queens before the white man take everything from we. Sounds good, what else?
With this knowledge we know now that the white man as the victors passed down a different history through the classrooms, and that is what Columbus represents... we need to take down his statue. :|

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby matr1x » August 3rd, 2018, 9:51 pm

If it weren't for CC we would have been still in whatever craphole country we came from. We came out on top

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby fatboy slim » August 3rd, 2018, 9:51 pm

maxtech wrote:For years they taught us that this guy discovered different places in the world. He was to be honored and adored for his efforts. But then the truth came out..... It more sounded like they hid the truth from us.....all those F-ing degrees those teachers in the past obtained was just to keep us in darkness and feed us false education.

I say rip that F-ing statue down and burn all books of that Columbus guy. He is a Major F up in history.


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby ProtonPowder » August 4th, 2018, 12:00 am

RedVEVO wrote:If you have a problem with Trinidadians move back to Jamaica .


I am a proud trinidadian against erasure of history on a whole.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby RedVEVO » August 4th, 2018, 12:06 am

ProtonPowder wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:If you have a problem with Trinidadians move back to Jamaica .


I am a proud trinidadian against erasure of history on a whole.


You are a Jamaican ..

What you have against Trini people ?

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby RedVEVO » August 4th, 2018, 12:08 am

The_Honourable wrote:Columbus dead over 500 years but Kambon and his side having heartburn about his statue and colonial street names where he should be more concerned about the conditions of his "black brothers" right across the road in East POS and Laventille. How taking down a statue going to improve the life of Afro-trinis especially those in poor communities who suffer with drugs, crime, family breakdown, joblessness and a cycle of welfare? If that not hotting yuh head but Columbus statue is, something wrong.

Ok so you remove the statue, now what?
Rename colonial street names? ok cool now what?
Remove Columbus statue down Cedros too? ok now what?
Beg Government for a handout every Emancipation as we did for the past few decades. ok what else?
Talk about what the white man do we. Ok most of us know that and fedup of that talk every year. What else?
Buy this cd or dvd so you will have african knowledge cause we were kings and queens before the white man take everything from we. Sounds good, what else?
With this knowledge we know now that the white man as the victors passed down a different history through the classrooms, and that is what Columbus represents... we need to take down his statue. :|


It will erase Columbus .

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby ProtonPowder » August 4th, 2018, 12:24 am

RedVEVO wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:
RedVEVO wrote:If you have a problem with Trinidadians move back to Jamaica .


I am a proud trinidadian against erasure of history on a whole.


You are a Jamaican ..

What you have against Trini people ?


Living in jamaica for a couple years doesnt make you a jamaican.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby nervewrecker » August 4th, 2018, 1:04 pm

lovescience1234 wrote:History is written by the victors -
Trinidad local history big time...

But back to Columbus - he also saw Venezuela - but somehow decided to go to more familiar land from voyage# 2
Yes, thanks to him we have all them nice mamacitas in the country next door.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby 88sins » August 4th, 2018, 1:24 pm

maj. tom wrote:But he was the first human to embark on such a voyage of discovery and he should be remembered for that.

no he wasn't. he was just the first to be documented to have made such a long voyage primarily in the name of discovery.

throughout the histories there have been numerous examples of the trend of advanced peoples venturing out from their place of origin & encountering less advanced peoples in other places, that they then either eradicated or enslaved or marginalized, & like it or not, the story of Columbus is one of them.

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