FROM RICHES TO RAGS Venezuelans become Latin America’s new underclass.

[Redress10]

And even when they leave they going and stay in places where the majority of people there are immigrants or refugees. Is like all those trinis who hiding out in places like Brooklyn etc and thinking that "This is America". So they think that there standard of life there is comparable to back home. Low is low anywhere in the world.

[Daran]

And even when they leave they going and stay in places where the majority of people there are immigrants or refugees. Is like all those trinis who hiding out in places like Brooklyn etc and thinking that "This is America". So they think that there standard of life there is comparable to back home. Low is low anywhere in the world.

Good point too. But either way their standard of life is still better there than here. The only difference is that trinis get too spoil with being lazy and getting over paid, totally unsustainable. They can't survive in the competitive real world.

[Redress10]

Very true....I have travelled and lived in the developed world and never come across their equivalent of "the beetham" etc....Even the lowest levels of their societies are offered a very good standard of living as well as opportunity for social and economic mobility.

I keep saying that trinis living in a bubble. I tell you, send half of those "successful" business people to a developed nation and they will do nothing in business. They operate strictly based on favours, corruption and tenderpreneurship. Ask urself why they can't even expand to north or south america. They might export one or two products but any real expansion is not possible cause their business models and ideas are out of date.

[Daran]

Very true....I have travelled and lived in the developed world and never come across their equivalent of "the beetham" etc....Even the lowest levels of their societies are offered a very good standard of living as well as opportunity for social and economic mobility.

I keep saying that trinis living in a bubble. I tell you, send half of those "successful" business people to a developed nation and they will do nothing in business. They operate strictly based on favours, corruption and tenderpreneurship. Ask urself why they can't even expand to north or south america. They might export one or two products but any real expansion is not possible cause their business models and ideas are out of date.

Exactly, u get my point totally.

The only real international brand in Trinidad is Sacha and then maybe Angostura (because of thier Bitters rums aren't recognized for sheit internationally).

[Trinispougla]

Section 34

Kamla went over her allotted time before calling elections.

Broken Judiciary and criminal justice system.

Police corruption and extra judicial killings.

No regard for law and order.

An Insurrection just 8 years after independence and a full blown coup in 1990.

Constant rumours of coups daily.



You are right.....stable democracy. I am convinced that some of you don't know what the hell you all does be talking about.

Trinidad is Haiti with oil...Nothing more and nothing less.

Compare that to the countries around us
1. B.G war(Guyana)- Racial violence in 1966 on the eve on independence
2. Jamaica suffering political violence in 1980 in which 800 persons were killed in one election campaign. This is in addition to the violence of the seventies in which two hundred persons were killed in one election campaign, fourteen years after independence
3. El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua-all undergoing brutal civil wars in the 80s
4. Colombia drug violence of the 80s
5. Grenada flirting with socialism ending with the assassination of half of a cabinet and invasion by a foreign power.
Now to me, that kinda seems worse than one insurrection, a failed attempted coup, free education(nursery to tertiary), a highly skilled workforce, free healthcare, one of the leading suppliers of methanol etc

[Daran]

^ look at most of those countries today. Most of have gotten their sheit together and if you visit them you'll find societies that are safer, cheaper cost of living, better infrastructure etc.

Stop boasting about our free teritary education and healthcare. Our education save for a few faculties in UWI is off a very low standard that is dropping because of the quality of our students are dropping too. Most of our healthcare is a sham and unreliable, forcing most of the middle and upper class to go private for proper care.

[Trinispougla]

^ look at most of those countries today. Most of have gotten their sheit together and if you visit them you'll find societies that are safer, cheaper cost of living, better infrastructure etc.

Stop boasting about our free teritary education and healthcare. Our education save for a few faculties in UWI is off a very low standard that is dropping because of the quality of our students are dropping too. Most of our healthcare is a sham and unreliable, forcing most of the middle and upper class to go private for proper care.

True to an extent, they are improving but they are far away from the level of development in TT. Nicaragua, honduras, and el salvador are still among the poorest, least developed and violent countries in the western hemisphere. Colombia is still struggling with drug violence. Grenada is the only country that has made significant strides. Guyana has made a few but they are still terribly underdeveloped, so much so that persons who can afford it go to Brazil to get proper healthcare . Secondly, that most of the country uses private healthcare is the biggest piece of nonsense I've heard all day. Why do persons complain when there are adjustments to CDAP or when there are shortages of cancer drugs? Why do even educated, well paid professionals go to health centers for free check-ups? If you are talking about major surgeries such heart and so on, even persons away prefer private specialists. But to say most of the country(Trinidad is a high income country) relies on private healthcare is tripe and you know it.
Educate yourself
http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI

[Trinispougla]

Very true....I have travelled and lived in the developed world and never come across their equivalent of "the beetham" etc....Even the lowest levels of their societies are offered a very good standard of living as well as opportunity for social and economic mobility.

I keep saying that trinis living in a bubble. I tell you, send half of those "successful" business people to a developed nation and they will do nothing in business. They operate strictly based on favours, corruption and tenderpreneurship. Ask urself why they can't even expand to north or south america. They might export one or two products but any real expansion is not possible cause their business models and ideas are out of date.

Exactly, u get my point totally.

The only real international brand in Trinidad is Sacha and then maybe Angostura (because of thier Bitters rums aren't recognized for sheit internationally).

Daran, why do you hate TT
http://www.angostura.com/news/1457/

Angostura® bitters is the World’s Top Selling and Trending Bitters

Port of Spain, Trinidad. 11th January, 2018. The world’s best bars have spoken, and they’ve named ANGOSTURA® aromatic bitters and ANGOSTURA® orange bitters as their top bitters brands.

Drinks International has released its prestigious Annual Bar Report 2018 and Angostura® has swept the bitters category, winning the awards for the “Number 1 Selling Bitters” and the “Number 1 Trending Bitters,” respectively.

Drinks International is one of the most trusted and respected global drinks journals. Its prestigious Annual Bar Report provides a snapshot of the buying habits of elite bars around the world. This year’s expanded list of voters included bar owners, managers and head mixologists from Drinks International’s World’s 50 Best Bars group, Asia’s 50 Best Bars, the Time Out Bar Awards, The Class Bar Awards, Taste of the Cocktail, and the Mixology and Australian Bartender Awards.

“We are pleased with the results of the poll,” says House of Angostura® Chief Executive Officer Genevieve Jodhan, “today’s bitters market is more competitive than ever and these awards show that Angostura® bitters is truly in a class of its own.”

“As a brand which has dominated the category for almost 200 years, we take pride in the fact that every great bar in the world uses our bitters. We are delighted that we are the Top Trending Bitters — that tells us that our education program, fuelled by our Global Cocktail Challenge that targets young, up and coming bartenders and mixologists, is yielding positive results.”

Angostura® bitters is made with the original closely guarded secret recipe first developed in 1824 by company founder, Dr. Johann Siegert. The brand is manufactured exclusively in Trinidad and Tobago, in the Caribbean, and holds the Royal Warrant of Appointment to the Crown first granted to it in 1955.

[pugboy]

What bitters have to do with the general social well being of Tt citizens ?

[Trinispougla]

Ask daran. I spoke about social well being the my previous post

[Daran]

Where you see I bad talk bitters? I said they're famous because of their bitters, it's their rums that aren't highly regarded (which I disagree with, I love their rums)

[Trinispougla]

Where you see I bad talk bitters? I said they're famous because of their bitters, it's their rums that aren't highly regarded (which I disagree with, I love their rums)

Well then your punctuation is atrocious and Angostura rums are internationally recocognized
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 29166.html

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PORT OF SPAIN, Trinidad and Tobago, March 24, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- In a stellar performance, The House of Angostura has been awarded the coveted title of World Class Distillery 2017 at this year's World Spirits Awards (WSA), as well as Gold Medals for five of its rums and for its newest distillation: Amaro di ANGOSTURA®.

Only 25 distilleries around the world are named World Class by the WSA. To qualify as "World Class" the distillery must be awarded 92-100 points.

Of the House of Angostura's International Rum Range, Gold Medals were awarded to: Angostura® Reserva, Angostura 1824®, Angostura 1919®, Angostura® 7 Year Old Rum, and Angostura® 5 Year Old Rum. The newly launched Angostura® 1787 received a Silver Medal.

Amaro di ANGOSTURA® which has taken the Amaro market by storm also received a Gold Medal from the WSA for the second year in a row, with judges noting the drink's "coherent herb and root mixture… sumptuous sugar sweetness [and] delicate pepper-chilli hotness," which make it unique in the class.

Established 14 years ago, the World Spirits Awards prides itself in setting the ultimate benchmark in the world of spirits using a transparent, accurate 100-point WOB evaluation system. The competition is themed "Simply the best in spirits," and relies on the unsurpassed quality of its jury, which is meticulously trained and highly qualified.

"The House of Angostura appreciates this honour," says Chief Executive Officer Genevieve Jodhan, "We take deep pride in our almost 200-year history of quality, creativity and innovation and we are extremely pleased to be recognised by the WSA."

Press Contact: Jillian Kalloo jkalloo@angostura.com THE HOUSE OF ANGOSTURA

Here's what the World Spirits Awards said about the House of Angostura's Amaro and Rums!

Amaro di ANGOSTURA® - Gold Fragrance: Nice bitterness portfolio, Cola and orange associations, wild berries, roots, cinnamon, cloves, cardamom, honey, liquorice, vanilla, dried fruits, lovage, thyme, coca leaf. Taste: Coherent herb and root mixture, a lot of citrus freshness, orange peel, somewhat oily and ethereal, pith, gentian, vermouth, lovage, bay, cinnamon, a lot of ginger, black pepper, sumptuous sugar sweetness, delicate pepper-chilli hotness, compact body, long-lasting finish.

Angostura® Reserva - Gold Fragrance: Typical Carribean rum stylistics, some wood and roast aromas, subtle rum ester, coconut, strawberry, lime freshness, pineapple, raisins, chocolate and banana, floral touch, tobacco. Taste: Classic rum ester notes, milky and creamy, strong wood texture, cocoa, white chocolate, fresh top notes, lime, raspberry, pear, banana, lychee, mango, melon, some green spiciness, very dense, long and harmonious.

Angostura® 7 year old Rum - Gold Fragrance: Elegant aromas, rum ester and wood mixture, sponge, artichoke, orange, peach, somewhat yeasty and grape-like, subtly nutty and roasty, coconut, prunes, almonds, dark chocolate, coffee, vanilla, malt candies, tobacco, rosehip. Taste: Rather subtle rum character, subtle rum ester, a lot of brandy-like wood notes, sponge, artichoke, tangerine, dark chocolate, green nuts, caramel, banana, malty and roasty sweetness, tight body, good length,

Angostura 1919® – Gold Fragrance: Nice sugar cane stylistics, iced coffee appeals, a lot of vanilla, wafers, chocolate, nutty, exotic touch, orange, pineapple, peach, coconut, coffee, cocoa, caramel, mocha and roast aromas, slightly smoky notes, floral touch, tobacco. Leather: Taste: Elegant rum ester, subtle brandy texture, grapefruit, subtly roasty, tobacco-like and smoky, yeasty, vanilla, nougat chocolate, raisins, opulent sweetness, harmonious and tight, long-lasting finish.

Angostura® 5 year old Rum - Gold Fragrance: Aroma symbiosis of molasses and brandy wood, rum ester, banana, strawberry, raspberry, apple, plum, molasses, apricot, coconut, rosehip, a lot of vanilla and roast notes, some caramel, raisins, honey, cocoa, dark chocolate, a touch of tobacco. Taste: Subtlest rum texture, juicy and soft, artichoke, strong wood and roast notes, nougat chocolate, caramel, a lot of vanilla, plum, tobacco, floral aspects, orange blossoms, malt sweetness, good balance, long finish.

Angostura 1824® - Gold Fragrance: Broad aroma image, subtlest ester notes, reminiscent of brandy, apricot, strawberry, tangerine, artichoke, some rosehip, slightly petrol-like, leather, tobacco, vanilla, delicately nutty, some lovage. Taste: Great interplay of rum ester and wood, caramel and candy associations, some peach, green-nutty, roast-like and smoky, clear rum ester, rum pot, coconut, banana, prunes, delicate dark chocolate, yeast, rather lot of sweetness, but still harmonious, tight body, good length.

Angostura® 1787 - Silver Fragrance: Reminiscent of molasses, aged in brandy casks, roasty and iodine, subtle rum ester, a lot of fruit ester, banana, vanilla, coconut, apricot, cherry, some lovage, dried pear, caramel, floral aspects. Taste: Fragrance copy on the palate, subtle rum character, mango, peach, nougat, a lot of dried pears, delicate, green herb bouquet, leather, coffee, tobacco, honey, clear sugar sweetness, good tightness and length, liqueur-like in the finish.

NOTES FOR EDITORS

THE HOUSE OF ANGOSTURA

Capitalising on its heritage as the world's most well-known maker of aromatic bitters, the House of Angostura has catapulted into the 21st century with an exquisite range of rums, the magnificent Amaro di ANGOSTURA® and of course, ANGOSTURA® aromatic bitters and ANGOSTURA® orange bitters, now in demand in more than 170 countries across the world. The House of Angostura, distinguished by its excellence, has been recognized over the centuries by the granting of Royal Warrants of Appointment to the royal households of Great Britain, Prussia, Spain and Sweden as suppliers of Angostura aromatic bitters. The House of Angostura has been producing fine rums for 130 years, mastering the art of aging and blending. The House of Angostura's superior rums are helping to redefine the rum category as one with equal sophistication, craftsmanship and artistry to spirits like whisky.

About the World Spirits Awards

The mission of The World Spirits Awards is to establish, as the world's best competition with a distillery classification, an assessment standard that sets the ultimate benchmark in the world of spirits. Four hundred spirits from 60 participants and distilleries from 25 nations were judged in this year's competition, where the results were based on the WOB 100-points grading system tailored to spirits, as an experienced international jury of tasters warranted an unbiased assessment. The spirits that were staged ranged from coffee and cigar brandies to gin, rum, fruit spirits and 100% distillates. "Simply the best in Spirits" slogan indicated that only the best products were allowed to be entered. Three hundred and eighty five medals were awarded at the competition this year.

About Amaro Di ANGOSTURA®

Impossible to replicate, the taste of Amaro di Angostura® is derived from the bespoke process used in creating the House of Angostura's iconic aromatic bitters. The House yeast strain, cultivated by Angostura® since the 1930's in Trinidad, combined with the addition of other spices and neutral alcohol from its distillery, result in an elevation of a classic liqueur creating an entirely new-world dimension to the category. Like Angostura® aromatic bitters, the Amaro di Angostura® recipe is a secret. Bottled at 35% ABV, Amaro di Angostura® is a deep amber colour, offering aromas of cinnamon, dark chocolate and unmistakable Angostura® aromatic bitters. The flavours explode on the tongue with warm cinnamon and liquorice notes. The finish is perfectly balanced, exotic, lush and reminiscent of the essence of Trinidad and Tobago's pulsating rhythms, tropical climate and beauty. Amaro di Angostura® can be enjoyed over ice, is splendid on its own and offers delicious harmony in a cocktail.

A Range of 6 Distinctive Rums

Angostura's international range of rums includes five distinctive, exquisitely blended rums produced exclusively at The House of Angostura in Trinidad: Angostura® 1787, Angostura 1824®, Angostura 1919®, Angostura® 7 Year Old, Angostura® 5 Year Old and Angostura® Reserva

Angostura® 1787: Angostura® 1787 Rum is a super-premium blend of rums aged for a minimum of 15 years. It is the newest addition to the House of Angostura's family of premium rums. A well balanced, medium bodied rum with rich mahogany with bronze highlights. This rum exudes a sweet bouquet of banana, dried fruit and oak with top notes of apples. To the palate there are hints of dried prunes and sweet rounded oak notes entwined with toffee nuances with a long and crisp.
Angostura 1824®: Angostura 1824® is a blend of rums aged for a minimum of 12 years. A rich medium-bodied rum, 1824® is dark gold in colour, shot through with amber lights, with rich bouquet of sweet molasses, cocoa and toffee with top notes of tropical fruit. This rum offers a well-rounded palate with hints of chocolate, orange, spices and fruity nuances and a long, smooth finish.
Angostura 1919®: Angostura 1919® is a light blend of rums aged in charred, used bourbon casks. 1919 is a premium sipping rum, golden amber in hue exhibiting a rich complex bouquet of cocoa, vanilla and coconut. Remarkably well rounded in taste with a dry medium-bodied palate, 1919® reveals hints of roasted nuts, creamy vanilla, brown spices and tropical nuances.
Angostura® 7 Year Old: To create Angostura® 7 Year Old rum, Angostura's Master Blender selects from rums aged for a minimum of 7 years. The result: a rum of rich medium body, the magical dark, deep red of mahogany, with an enticing bouquet of creamy aromas.... vanilla, chocolate, molasses, coffee and oak.
Angostura® 5 Year Old: An exquisite blend of light rums, aged for a minimum 5 years, this is a luminescent clear rum with subtle golden highlights. Aromatic with light woody notes of coconut, caramel, lemon and hints of vanilla, the taste Angostura® 5 Year Old contains nuances of tropical fruits.
Angostura® Reserva: Aged for a minimum of three years, Angostura® Reserva is a truly superior white rum: pure and clear, smooth and flavourful with hints of burnt ripe banana and other exotic tropical fruit aromas. This dryish medium-bodied spirit offers a quick burst of spicy hot pepper and burnt caramel to finish.
How to enjoy Angostura® Rums

The high quality rums of the House of Angostura are created with artistry and craftsmanship, offering subtle, complex flavor profiles that can be sipped or blended in cocktails. Our premium rums —Angostura 1824®, Angostura 1919®, and Angostura® 7 Year Old — are perfect for sipping, on their own, straight up or on the rocks. The entire range can be enjoyed with mixers and are excellent in cocktails from the Queen's Park Swizzle to the Cuba Libre!

The Artistry of Rum Making

The only rum distillery in Trinidad today, the House of Angostura® is renowned for its unique, signature style. Angostura's® rums are made from only the highest quality molasses fermented with proprietary yeast cultures, distilled in continuous stills in carefully controlled conditions, then aged for between three and 12 years or more. The entire process takes place in Angostura's® warehouse and distillery in Port of Spain, Trinidad. Our rums are blended by masters with years of experience and training in original traditions, celebrated experts who closely maintain guarded formulas and techniques.

Angostura® Rums: A Rich History

The House of Angostura's® award winning rums are steeped in nearly 200 years of tradition. The journey started in 1824 when founder Dr. Johann Siegert first produced aromatic bitters in Angostura, Venezuela (today called Ciudad Bolivar). In the 1870's, Dr. Siegert's three sons migrated to Trinidad, among them Don Carlos Siegert, who pioneered the brand, establishing Angostura® aromatic bitters as an integral ingredient in premium cocktails and ultimately a mainstay of cocktail culture. The family's Siegert Bouquet Rum became a Trinidadian tradition up until the early 1960's and part of the company's rich rum heritage. In the 1970's, The House of Angostura® expanded, acquiring the Fernandes family distillery, which was founded in the 1890's by Manoel Fernandes, an immigrant from Portugal, and known for making high quality rums.

Angostura® Rums: The True Spirit of Trinidad

Angostura's® rums could only be created in Trinidad, a country that is home to adventurous peoples from almost every corner of the world. Today that adventurous spirit is manifest in Trinidad's music, food, art, and (of course!) in our creative ability to make exquisite rums. The House of Angostura® has captured the true spirit of Trinidad and Tobago for more than 190 years! According to Angostura® Master Distiller John Georges: "Our rums are 100% Trinidadian, made in one distillery, on one Island."

Available World Wide

The House of Angostura exports 100% of its production to almost every country in the world. Angostura's International Rum Range is available in more than 50 countries, from Canada to the Ukraine, to Australia and practically everywhere in between. To learn more about the House of Angostura's award-winning rum portfolio, visit www.angostura.com.

[Redress10]

^ look at most of those countries today. Most of have gotten their sheit together and if you visit them you'll find societies that are safer, cheaper cost of living, better infrastructure etc.

Stop boasting about our free teritary education and healthcare. Our education save for a few faculties in UWI is off a very low standard that is dropping because of the quality of our students are dropping too. Most of our healthcare is a sham and unreliable, forcing most of the middle and upper class to go private for proper care.

True to an extent, they are improving but they are far away from the level of development in TT. Nicaragua, honduras, and el salvador are still among the poorest, least developed and violent countries in the western hemisphere. Colombia is still struggling with drug violence. Grenada is the only country that has made significant strides. Guyana has made a few but they are still terribly underdeveloped, so much so that persons who can afford it go to Brazil to get proper healthcare . Secondly, that most of the country uses private healthcare is the biggest piece of nonsense I've heard all day. Why do persons complain when there are adjustments to CDAP or when there are shortages of cancer drugs? Why do even educated, well paid professionals go to health centers for free check-ups? If you are talking about major surgeries such heart and so on, even persons away prefer private specialists. But to say most of the country(Trinidad is a high income country) relies on private healthcare is tripe and you know it.
Educate yourself
http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI

Newsflash Trinidad is also amongst the poorest nations in the world as are Jamaica and other countries in the Caribbean.

Trinidad is also struggling with drug violence.

Trinidad is still severely underdeveloped.....Skyscrapers don't mean development.

Brazil is a BRIC country...it is significantly more developed than anything the Caribbean can offer Guyana...If you had said that guyanese people were fleeing to Suriname etc for healthcare then it would have been more shocking.

Maybe because the "educated, well paid professionals" can't afford to always go private. Again, your definition of things such as high income/ well paid is skewed.

St Kitts and nevis, bahamas, Antigua and Barbuda are also "high income" countries..They are not exactly bastions of development and progress now are they?

[Redress10]

No one "hates" Trinidad but the way some of you all talk it's almost like you believe that the world revolves around Trinidad.

Take Angostura for instance, we boast about that company? Really?

How many french people do you see "boasting" about LVMH(Louis Vuitton Moet Hennesy)? A company that makes over 43 billion euros in sales annually.

How many english people you see "boasting" about Diageo? A brand that owns spirnoff, Johnnie Walker, Baileys, Vueve Clicquout etc.

You literally posted an entire article about a company that probably doesn't even comfortably sell 1 billion tt in products globally. You are literally talking about a company with such little revenue stream that the country can't comfortably tax it or use it to provide employment.

You all need to know what to boast about. Angostura is in existence....That is it....nothing more.

[Trinispougla]

^ look at most of those countries today. Most of have gotten their sheit together and if you visit them you'll find societies that are safer, cheaper cost of living, better infrastructure etc.

Stop boasting about our free teritary education and healthcare. Our education save for a few faculties in UWI is off a very low standard that is dropping because of the quality of our students are dropping too. Most of our healthcare is a sham and unreliable, forcing most of the middle and upper class to go private for proper care.

True to an extent, they are improving but they are far away from the level of development in TT. Nicaragua, honduras, and el salvador are still among the poorest, least developed and violent countries in the western hemisphere. Colombia is still struggling with drug violence. Grenada is the only country that has made significant strides. Guyana has made a few but they are still terribly underdeveloped, so much so that persons who can afford it go to Brazil to get proper healthcare . Secondly, that most of the country uses private healthcare is the biggest piece of nonsense I've heard all day. Why do persons complain when there are adjustments to CDAP or when there are shortages of cancer drugs? Why do even educated, well paid professionals go to health centers for free check-ups? If you are talking about major surgeries such heart and so on, even persons away prefer private specialists. But to say most of the country(Trinidad is a high income country) relies on private healthcare is tripe and you know it.
Educate yourself
http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI

Newsflash Trinidad is also amongst the poorest nations in the world as are Jamaica and other countries in the Caribbean.

Trinidad is also struggling with drug violence.

Trinidad is still severely underdeveloped.....Skyscrapers don't mean development.

Brazil is a BRIC country...it is significantly more developed than anything the Caribbean can offer Guyana...If you had said that guyanese people were fleeing to Suriname etc for healthcare then it would have been more shocking.

Maybe because the "educated, well paid professionals" can't afford to always go private. Again, your definition of things such as high income/ well paid is skewed.

St Kitts and nevis, bahamas, Antigua and Barbuda are also "high income" countries..They are not exactly bastions of development and progress now are they?

What i am saying is that most of the country relies on free healthcare. As i said in an earlier post, Brazil, being a BRIC country does not have free primary and secondary education. Federal universities are free but because public education is so poor, the majority of entrants come from private schools. They being a BRICS country have a literacy rate of 90% while little haiti(TT) has a literacy rate of 96.9%. Granted these figures do not reflect the reality, it is likely the situation is similar with Brazil.

Probably not St Kitts, but the others are examples and are held up as examples for small island states. Can't compare it to Sweeden and the Scandinavian countries. Even Singapore has over 5 million people.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the ... erica.html

[Redress10]

Ofcourse you are proud of our literacy rate......Yay...Go TNT.

At 8.5 million square kilometers (3.2 million square miles) and with over 208 million people, Brazil is the world's fifth-largest country by area and the sixth most populous.

Of course some government services are going to miss some of the population. There are people living in the amazon in Brazil that don't even know what day or year it is.

Compare that to people living in Morvant and Beetham just a couple steps from the nation's capital. Chalk and cheese bro. I eh even want to talk about "rural" areas...that is a whole other story. Imagine the least developed places in the country are places such as Mayaro etc and other communities along the nation's oilbelt.....That making sense?

Trinidad is a small 2x4 country. You can literally stretch your arms and touch both ends of the island. Tobago is even worst.

We suffer from two things in this country. Lack of access to water and flooding. This is an island with over average rainfall and surrounded by sea that cannot provide adequate water to the population. Explain that nah....Please

Alluh does try to rationalise madness and bullchit. We hadda stop that..That leading us to nowhere

Some of alluh really believe that national pride is based on waving a flag in a stadium or cheering for a miss universe contestant...You all don't have a clue what it takes to build a nation and ensure that it survives and prospers in the long run.

[Miktay]

^ look at most of those countries today. Most of have gotten their sheit together and if you visit them you'll find societies that are safer, cheaper cost of living, better infrastructure etc.

Stop boasting about our free teritary education and healthcare. Our education save for a few faculties in UWI is off a very low standard that is dropping because of the quality of our students are dropping too. Most of our healthcare is a sham and unreliable, forcing most of the middle and upper class to go private for proper care.

True to an extent, they are improving but they are far away from the level of development in TT. Nicaragua, honduras, and el salvador are still among the poorest, least developed and violent countries in the western hemisphere. Colombia is still struggling with drug violence. Grenada is the only country that has made significant strides. Guyana has made a few but they are still terribly underdeveloped, so much so that persons who can afford it go to Brazil to get proper healthcare . Secondly, that most of the country uses private healthcare is the biggest piece of nonsense I've heard all day. Why do persons complain when there are adjustments to CDAP or when there are shortages of cancer drugs? Why do even educated, well paid professionals go to health centers for free check-ups? If you are talking about major surgeries such heart and so on, even persons away prefer private specialists. But to say most of the country(Trinidad is a high income country) relies on private healthcare is tripe and you know it.
Educate yourself
http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI

Newsflash Trinidad is also amongst the poorest nations in the world as are Jamaica and other countries in the Caribbean.

Trinidad is also struggling with drug violence.

Trinidad is still severely underdeveloped.....Skyscrapers don't mean development.

Brazil is a BRIC country...it is significantly more developed than anything the Caribbean can offer Guyana...If you had said that guyanese people were fleeing to Suriname etc for healthcare then it would have been more shocking.

Maybe because the "educated, well paid professionals" can't afford to always go private. Again, your definition of things such as high income/ well paid is skewed.

St Kitts and nevis, bahamas, Antigua and Barbuda are also "high income" countries..They are not exactly bastions of development and progress now are they?

Complete nonsense.

[mero]

Why you arguing with Red Dress for? Could swear he migrate and now own a fortune 500 company.

Red dress is also convinced that the US army has no corruption whatsoever because soldiers are loyal, patriotic and follow some code of honor. He also believes you need to be an English citizen to be a manager/coach of English football club, LeBron James is ”just” another athlete and because our crime rate and prison not like Mexico, we have no "real badman" in Tdad...

Fellas does go to school away and travel as tourists and visit tourist towns, watch Travel channel and convince theyself everything nice in merica and Europe and they could walk around any city and town with they gold chain on and not get they ass murked like dogs, unlike in trinidad, the shittiest country on Earth.

What is wrong with being proud of Angostura? Every single international/foreigner rum drinker I know rates 1919 high on the charts and has one in their collection.

Fellas good yes.. sure Reddress also think drake is the greatest rapper of all time because he sells the most albums and he's worth $xxx

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Why you arguing with Red Dress for? Could swear he migrate and now own a fortune 500 company.

Red dress is also convinced that the US army has no corruption whatsoever because soldiers are loyal, patriotic and follow some code of honor. He also believes you need to be an English citizen to be a manager/coach of English football club, LeBron James is ”just” another athlete and because our crime rate and prison not like Mexico, we have no "real badman" in Tdad...

Fellas does go to school away and travel as tourists and visit tourist towns, watch Travel channel and convince theyself everything nice in merica and Europe and they could walk around any city and town with they gold chain on and not get they ass murked like dogs, unlike in trinidad, the shittiest country on Earth.

What is wrong with being proud of Angostura? Every single international/foreigner rum drinker I know rates 1919 high on the charts and has one in their collection.

Fellas good yes.. sure Reddress also think drake is the greatest rapper of all time because he sells the most albums and he's worth $xxx

You come to add and deflect from the bullchit.

Ofc US Army has corruption but I am sure that there is a chance that it will be adequately investigated. It's called checks and balance you know. The fact that power doesn't reside in one man's hand or a select few. Unlike you know Trinidad, where are routine phone call from some politician or politician's friend gets someone released or an investigation to end.

I said no such thing. I said that DWIGHT YORKE, being a foreigner in UK has no right to speak about hiring practices of english club owners. If he so wanted a job then he could easily come home and manage a pro league team or go to the lower leagues. But like you, Dwight seems to suffer from something called delusional entitlement.

Lebron James is "just" another american athlete. Newsflash, there will always be another Lebron James. Before there was Lebron, there was Kobe etc. Still don't see what point you trying to make here but bray bro bray.

You think that Trinidad "badmen" who live in a country with a low detection rate, "lazy" law enforcement, inadequate judiciary are "legit" like the Mexicans et al who work for a multi billion dollar criminal enterprise with multiple tiers of organisations? You really equating those illiterates who distressing trinidad daily to the Zetas, Sinaloa and Juarez who operate at the highest levels of globabl criminal sophistication whilst successfully evading every intelligence and law enforcement body from CIA to Interpol? Bray bro bray.

Obw.....Those mexicans can speak english fluently, can you boys even understand basic spanish?

The roughest places in USA and Europe still tougher than the roughest places in TnT....Some of you all really overestimate just how much leeway politicians in this country have given you all. Ppl in Trinidad are not criminals, they are opportunist. Ent they kill a 72 year old doctor yesterday...."Real trini bad men".

Cool let us export more of it if that is the case...Remember, you said is so, so is so.

Nah Drake is more your artiste....he's for delusional people.

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^ look at most of those countries today. Most of have gotten their sheit together and if you visit them you'll find societies that are safer, cheaper cost of living, better infrastructure etc.

Stop boasting about our free teritary education and healthcare. Our education save for a few faculties in UWI is off a very low standard that is dropping because of the quality of our students are dropping too. Most of our healthcare is a sham and unreliable, forcing most of the middle and upper class to go private for proper care.

True to an extent, they are improving but they are far away from the level of development in TT. Nicaragua, honduras, and el salvador are still among the poorest, least developed and violent countries in the western hemisphere. Colombia is still struggling with drug violence. Grenada is the only country that has made significant strides. Guyana has made a few but they are still terribly underdeveloped, so much so that persons who can afford it go to Brazil to get proper healthcare . Secondly, that most of the country uses private healthcare is the biggest piece of nonsense I've heard all day. Why do persons complain when there are adjustments to CDAP or when there are shortages of cancer drugs? Why do even educated, well paid professionals go to health centers for free check-ups? If you are talking about major surgeries such heart and so on, even persons away prefer private specialists. But to say most of the country(Trinidad is a high income country) relies on private healthcare is tripe and you know it.
Educate yourself
http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI

Newsflash Trinidad is also amongst the poorest nations in the world as are Jamaica and other countries in the Caribbean.

Trinidad is also struggling with drug violence.

Trinidad is still severely underdeveloped.....Skyscrapers don't mean development.

Brazil is a BRIC country...it is significantly more developed than anything the Caribbean can offer Guyana...If you had said that guyanese people were fleeing to Suriname etc for healthcare then it would have been more shocking.

Maybe because the "educated, well paid professionals" can't afford to always go private. Again, your definition of things such as high income/ well paid is skewed.

St Kitts and nevis, bahamas, Antigua and Barbuda are also "high income" countries..They are not exactly bastions of development and progress now are they?

Complete nonsense.

Well I tend to believe otherwise especially when angry residents are splashing water on their MP because a flood made them lose what little they already had....Emphasis on the word little. Trinidad is a very poor poor country. Your government builds houses because the majority of people can't afford to build/buy one. Those are basic facts. Majority of the vehicles on the road are foreign used low model/cost cars...These cars were essentially discarded elsewhere and exported.

Our hotels such as Hilton and Hyatt and soon to be Sandals were/are being built by the State. Those companies were not impressed with the economy etc of our country to come set up here by themselves. They choose the path of least risk basically only lending their names. LMAO...You all have no idea what wealth looks like. High value individuals don't even look pass Barbados when considering property investments....if you had any investment knowledge and experience then you would know this.

Also, your politicians basically get into politics so they could get tax breaks to buy basic vehicles(BMW etc).....Those cars are not really considered luxurious in Europe etc. They are basic cars that the average joe can easily afford.

Tell me, how are you not poor again. Because I know really wealthy citizens of TnT who consider themselves poor outside of Trinidad.

[mero]

Why you arguing with Red Dress for? Could swear he migrate and now own a fortune 500 company.

Red dress is also convinced that the US army has no corruption whatsoever because soldiers are loyal, patriotic and follow some code of honor. He also believes you need to be an English citizen to be a manager/coach of English football club, LeBron James is ”just” another athlete and because our crime rate and prison not like Mexico, we have no "real badman" in Tdad...

Fellas does go to school away and travel as tourists and visit tourist towns, watch Travel channel and convince theyself everything nice in merica and Europe and they could walk around any city and town with they gold chain on and not get they ass murked like dogs, unlike in trinidad, the shittiest country on Earth.

What is wrong with being proud of Angostura? Every single international/foreigner rum drinker I know rates 1919 high on the charts and has one in their collection.

Fellas good yes.. sure Reddress also think drake is the greatest rapper of all time because he sells the most albums and he's worth $xxx

You come to add and deflect from the bullchit.

Ofc US Army has corruption but I am sure that there is a chance that it will be adequately investigated. It's called checks and balance you know. The fact that power doesn't reside in one man's hand or a select few. Unlike you know Trinidad, where are routine phone call from some politician or politician's friend gets someone released or an investigation to end.

I said no such thing. I said that DWIGHT YORKE, being a foreigner in UK has no right to speak about hiring practices of english club owners. If he so wanted a job then he could easily come home and manage a pro league team or go to the lower leagues. But like you, Dwight seems to suffer from something called delusional entitlement.

Lebron James is "just" another american athlete. Newsflash, there will always be another Lebron James. Before there was Lebron, there was Kobe etc. Still don't see what point you trying to make here but bray bro bray.

You think that Trinidad "badmen" who live in a country with a low detection rate, "lazy" law enforcement, inadequate judiciary are "legit" like the Mexicans et al who work for a multi billion dollar criminal enterprise with multiple tiers of organisations? You really equating those illiterates who distressing trinidad daily to the Zetas, Sinaloa and Juarez who operate at the highest levels of globabl criminal sophistication whilst successfully evading every intelligence and law enforcement body from CIA to Interpol? Bray bro bray.

Obw.....Those mexicans can speak english fluently, can you boys even understand basic spanish?

The roughest places in USA and Europe still tougher than the roughest places in TnT....Some of you all really overestimate just how much leeway politicians in this country have given you all. Ppl in Trinidad are not criminals, they are opportunist. Ent they kill a 72 year old doctor yesterday...."Real trini bad men".

Cool let us export more of it if that is the case...Remember, you said is so, so is so.

Nah Drake is more your artiste....he's for delusional people.

Here you go again talking out your ass like another wanna be know it all.

Power is always in the hands of a select few whether how democratic or first world a country is.. it's only noticable here because everyone here basically knows everyone.

Practices of English club owners?... These clubs are rarely even owned by Englishmen, barely any at all so udfr with your other failed attempt at sounding intelligent or knowing anything about sports..

Might as well make a spin too with your definition of badman... Like badman need to dress in suit and speak 5 languages to satisfy your weird ass... All this Sinaloa talk, even though they big, notorious and global, the majority of dirty work and fear comes from regular henchmen and gangs taking orders. They just as illiterate as trini badman..

Maybe you should take a stroll on ind sq at the night just around Churches and walk up to a 14 yr old non badman and brey how they not badman like in Mexico and see if they don't split your stupid head open in at minimum then come post on that.

Right now venez who think they could come here, bring drugs and guns AND run blocks together getting the shock of their lives cuz they ass getting rob, kidnapped and murdered especially during this shortage of drugs..but you wouldn't know that cuz Google didnt tell u that, but hey trini have no real badman cuz we not Sinalao

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1. Not true....if power is in the hands of the select few then it is a Kleptocracy and not a democracy....I don't expect you to know this basic difference though.

2. Clubs may not be english owned but they are still majority English owned and supported. Either way the point is Pep got started in Spain at his former club and Wenger got started in France, Alex Ferguson got started in Scotland and Jose got his start in Portugal. I'm hoping that you see a pattern here so maybe you can relay that to your friend Dwighty. Oh and you would be surprised what I know about sports.

3. The ability to speak multiple languages is a valuable skillset in today's global security and business environment. That is why most intelligence services in the world only recruit people who speak multiple languages. It allows for greater penetration, tradecraft and flexibility. But you wouldn't know anything about this because your definition of a badman can't even pass O'level english.

4. LMAO...You have no clue....Those cartels employ the use of current or ex mexican special forces to do their dirty work. The sicarios are not lost illiterate boys playing cowboy with guns. There is still order and organisation on the ground. That is the difference between them and us.

5. I wouldn't be on independence sq at that hour....That would remind me too much of Port au Prince.....Now repeat after me "Haiti with oil".

6. Cartels don't try to run drug "blocks". What you are witnessing there is probably the beetham or laventille equivalent of what Venezuela has to offer in terms of "bad men". Plus they actually really poor and destitute now. So the bottom feeders would always fight and kill each other....No different than if those same people went Venezuela and tried to do the same thing.

When the real people moving "product", "volume" etc they move tonnes of it through private planes, go fast boats, yachts and shipping containers. They don't concern themselves with random drug blocks. That's the high level ish....Ya know the sort of cocaine that girls in nightclubs in New York asks you randomly for. They call it "blow" btw. But I don't expect you to have any idea about that or any exposure to that sort of thing.

You have absolutely no clue.

[mero]

1. Not true....if power is in the hands of the select few then it is a Kleptocracy and not a democracy....I don't expect you to know this basic difference though.

2. Clubs may not be english owned but they are still majority English owned and supported. Either way the point is Pep got started in Spain at his former club and Wenger got started in France, Alex Ferguson got started in Scotland and Jose got his start in Portugal. I'm hoping that you see a pattern here so maybe you can relay that to your friend Dwighty. Oh and you would be surprised what I know about sports.

3. The ability to speak multiple languages is a valuable skillset in today's global security and business environment. That is why most intelligence services in the world only recruit people who speak multiple languages. It allows for greater penetration, tradecraft and flexibility. But you wouldn't know anything about this because your definition of a badman can't even pass O'level english.

4. LMAO...You have no clue....Those cartels employ the use of current or ex mexican special forces to do their dirty work. The sicarios are not lost illiterate boys playing cowboy with guns. There is still order and organisation on the ground. That is the difference between them and us.

5. I wouldn't be on independence sq at that hour....That would remind me too much of Port au Prince.....Now repeat after me "Haiti with oil".

6. Cartels don't try to run drug "blocks". What you are witnessing there is probably the beetham or laventille equivalent of what Venezuela has to offer in terms of "bad men". Plus they actually really poor and destitute now. So the bottom feeders would always fight and kill each other....No different than if those same people went Venezuela and tried to do the same thing.

When the real people moving "product", "volume" etc they move tonnes of it through private planes, go fast boats, yachts and shipping containers. They don't concern themselves with random drug blocks. That's the high level ish....Ya know the sort of cocaine that girls in nightclubs in New York asks you randomly for. They call it "blow" btw. But I don't expect you to have any idea about that or any exposure to that sort of thing.

You have absolutely no clue.

Thank you for providing us with your vast inside knowledge and first experience with the mexican cartels that any one who has dial up and a TV or watched one episode of Narcos would have known.

Thanks for also providing the breaking news that intelligence agencies recruit ppl who speak foreign languages, mind blown.

And that same "blow" u pretend girls in NY clubs come asking you for u can get it right here for way cheaper... Our local brown "white girls" love snorting that sheit up right here in lil Haiti.

Yet no one seems to have a clue but you..such awareness...

Nice seeing how your football facts change for the third time.. like u now google what is the premier league.

2nr edgelords yes lmao

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frequent flyer posers & boolamanwinkeye ITT

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I am convinced by now that you are borderline functionally unintelligent by now. No need to prove me right.

Have a quick read on this....These updates yearly...I will try and find other reports so I could help with your remedial reading skills. Just a lil warning, they're not as entertaining as Narcos though. But still have a quick read. They're no more than 40 pages.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R41576.pdf
https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/277589.pdf

Bro, those pretend girls ask everyone for that in nightclubs in NY. Come to think of it they also ask for it in Paris, London, Barcelona and even in Bridgetown. Trust me it's just a regular occurrence. Almost like asking for water. I'm glad that you recognise that what is offered in TnT is way cheaper. I guess that puts our local "brown" girls into perspective. I know a couple local "brown" girls, they drive "hand me downs" and are actually really broke but Trinidad allows them to hide behind their skin colour and hair texture.

Oh and btw, a product is always cheaper the closest it is to its source of production. That's basic business and economics bro...You could at least pretend to know this. Now if you were selling the H then I would be impressed.

A quick search on english club ownerships would show that the majority of english clubs are english owned and if they are owned by foreigners they are owned by investment groups, wealthy families and individuals who simply don't have any need or want to call up Dwight Yorke personally.

Here's the wikipedia link....Also click a couple of those ownership links and see their companies and networths etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_o ... ball_clubs

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Well I tend to believe otherwise especially when angry residents are splashing water on their MP because a flood made them lose what little they already had....Emphasis on the word little. Trinidad is a very poor poor country. Your government builds houses because the majority of people can't afford to build/buy one. Those are basic facts. Majority of the vehicles on the road are foreign used low model/cost cars...These cars were essentially discarded elsewhere and exported.

Again thiz iz untrue and myopic.

Thiz according to the World Bank, the IMF and the United Nations. Sweet T&Ts GDP per capita ranks ABOVE Chile and Argentina in the Western Hemisphere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

If u think flooding iz exclusive to T&T you should visit one of the richest countries in the World.

Thiz iz flooding in Maryland three months ago that makes the Beetham flooding look like a Sunday picnic.

Our hotels such as Hilton and Hyatt and soon to be Sandals were/are being built by the State. Those companies were not impressed with the economy etc of our country to come set up here by themselves. They choose the path of least risk basically only lending their names. LMAO...You all have no idea what wealth looks like.

News flash. Very few countries can successfully attract multinationals without tax incentives and/or franchise fees.

High value individuals don't even look pass Barbados when considering property investments....if you had any investment knowledge and experience then you would know this.

Also, your politicians basically get into politics so they could get tax breaks to buy basic vehicles(BMW etc).....Those cars are not really considered luxurious in Europe etc. They are basic cars that the average joe can easily afford.

Thiz iza red herring. Do you know any politicians any where in the world that dont take advantage of tax breaks and incentives?

For ur edification EU MEPs get 4.4K Euro in expenses on top of a monthly salary of 8.6K Euro. Thats an expense rate in excess of 50% of base salary.
https://www.politico.eu/article/strasbo ... -expenses/

Tell me, how are you not poor again. Because I know really wealthy citizens of TnT who consider themselves poor outside of Trinidad.

The only poor thing in here iz your eyesight and the ability to reason and understand. While T&T certainly has issues...many other countries have similar problems.