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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » December 2nd, 2018, 9:01 pm

Replace Jamaica in the example with Singapore. Smaller than Trinidad. Very efficient train service.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby pugboy » December 2nd, 2018, 9:04 pm

Wonder if those countries had a leader who had malice towards anything associated with the white colonial masters

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Joshie23 » December 2nd, 2018, 9:11 pm

Redman wrote:So who paid the separation package...GORTT or the pension fund?????


Who closed the company down?

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Dizzy28 » December 2nd, 2018, 9:17 pm

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Replace Jamaica in the example with Singapore. Smaller than Trinidad. Very efficient train service.
Very punitive car ownership laws though. The average trini would not be able to own a car under the Singapore model .

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » December 2nd, 2018, 9:21 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Replace Jamaica in the example with Singapore. Smaller than Trinidad. Very efficient train service.
Very punitive car ownership laws though. The average trini would not be able to own a car under the Singapore model .


Point is the public transport is efficient and cheap. You use the public transport because it is excellent. They intentionally make cars expensive. The two aren’t a mistake.

Here public transport is rubbish. Car ownership is also increased on a whim while nothing is done to improve public transport.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby The_Honourable » December 3rd, 2018, 12:09 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:


By the day, i believe more that it was a well orchestrated plot.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Redress10 » December 3rd, 2018, 1:26 am

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Replace Jamaica in the example with Singapore. Smaller than Trinidad. Very efficient train service.


Singapore Population: 5. 6 million
Area: 722 square kilometers
GDP(PPP): $555 billion usd: 39th in the world

Trinbago Population: 1.3 million
Area: 5000 square kilometers.
GDP(PPP): 45 billion usd: 110th in the world.

Can't compare Singapore at all. Singapore has 5 times our population in a space almost 8 times smaller than our country. Their is a need for this sort of rapid transportation due to the inability to have adequate roads to fit all the cars that they will need.

Their economy is also much more stronger and stable than ours so any major infrastructure investment would result in adequate returns and wouldn't have to be subsidised.

Trinidad doesn't need trains or rails. What the country need a decentralising of essential services such as education, health and work etc from the capital city. Too many people are forced to go into the city at the same time to conduct business. That is the true reason for the congestion. Also it doesnt help that school and work start at the same time. Flexitime should be introduced to allow greater flexibility.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby hydroep » December 3rd, 2018, 6:11 am

It wasn't me...:|

OWTU denies workers sabotaging oil assets
Kevon Felmine

Petrotrin workers block entrances and exits to the Industrial Gates at Santa Flora on Friday, as they protested over the failure of the company to pay them their salaries and severance packages on their last day of work.

Petrotrin workers block entrances and exits to the Industrial Gates at Santa Flora on Friday, as they protested over the failure of the company to pay them their salaries and severance packages on their last day of work.

The Oil­fields Work­ers’ Trade Union is deny­ing work­er in­volve­ment in the sab­o­tag­ing of Petrotrin as­sets fol­low­ing the shut­down of the com­pa­ny on Fri­day.

The union made the com­ment in re­sponse to a me­dia re­lease by Trinidad Pe­tro­le­um Hold­ings Ltd (TPHL), the com­pa­ny tak­ing over Petrotrin as­sets, which stat­ed ac­cess to all its fa­cil­i­ties was sus­pend­ed fol­low­ing acts of sab­o­tage by union mem­bers and em­ploy­ees. Petrotrin is now a lega­cy com­pa­ny but is a sub­sidiary of the new­ly formed TPHL.

In a state­ment yes­ter­day, how­ev­er, the union said it views the ac­cu­sa­tion by the TPHL man­age­ment and by ex­ten­sion the Gov­ern­ment as mere­ly a dis­trac­tion to take away from what their “rash, in­com­pe­tent and un­pre­pared de­ci­sion” has brought to cit­i­zens.

The union urged the TPHL to thor­ough­ly check their sources be­fore cast­ing “un­war­rant­ed and un­jus­ti­fi­able” blame to per­sons who were not in­volved in such in­ci­dents.

On Sat­ur­day, Her­itage Pe­tro­le­um Com­pa­ny Ltd, which has now ac­quired many of Petrotrin as­sets, said it was now work­ing with the au­thor­i­ties to find the par­ties re­spon­si­ble for sev­er­ing a 2.7-inch flow line in Grand Riv­iere, Ran­cho Que­ma­do, on Fri­day. This re­sult­ed in ap­prox­i­mate­ly five bar­rels of oil be­ing spilt. How­ev­er, it was con­tained in an area of about 20 feet and there was no dam­age to the en­vi­ron­ment. The line was re­paired and is now op­er­a­tional.

There were al­so de­lib­er­ate­ly set fires at sev­er­al fa­cil­i­ties in San­ta Flo­ra and the block­ing of the com­pa­ny premis­es with mo­bile drilling rigs.

As a con­se­quence, the TPHL an­nounced it had sus­pend­ed all ac­cess to its fa­cil­i­ties by non-es­sen­tial per­son­nel fol­low­ing sev­er­al in­ci­dents of van­dal­ism, sab­o­tage and ob­struc­tion by union mem­bers and oth­er work­ers.

“The dam­age and de­struc­tion in­clud­ed the van­dal­is­ing of mo­bile oil­field equip­ment, a fire ten­der, state prop­er­ty and pri­vate­ly owned ve­hi­cles. These mea­sures are crit­i­cal to en­sure the safe­ty and well-be­ing of all le­git­i­mate per­son­nel and to pro­tect and pre­serve valu­able State as­sets,” the re­lease said.

“With im­me­di­ate ef­fect, on­ly per­sons with valid iden­ti­fi­ca­tion, spe­cif­ic com­pa­ny pass­es and who are list­ed for ac­cess will be al­lowed in­to the com­pa­ny’s fa­cil­i­ties. There will be no ex­cep­tions.”

The com­pa­ny said it al­so plans to use all le­gal means to en­sure those re­spon­si­ble are pros­e­cut­ed.

How­ev­er, the union said the on­ly ac­tion the work­ers took on Fri­day came af­ter the Gov­ern­ment failed to meet its promise to pay work­ers their full salary be­fore clo­sure of the plants and the re­trench­ment of all em­ploy­ees. The work­ers’ re­sponse, the union said, was to re­main at the var­i­ous com­pounds and peace­ful­ly de­mand pay­ments and salaries they were du­ly owed.


http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/owtu-denies-workers-sabotaging-oil-assets-6.2.728344.6145ed7f55

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Monkey Man » December 3rd, 2018, 8:17 am

Huh real mens waking up to not go to work Today.

Thanks uncle Keith you are the best!

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » December 3rd, 2018, 8:55 am

Hearing that there is no security at gates the morning. Please let the scrap iron men know this.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby tr1ad » December 3rd, 2018, 9:31 am

kstt wrote:Hearing that there is no security at gates the morning. Please let the scrap iron men know this.



at PaP amalgamated out

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby matix » December 3rd, 2018, 9:32 am

Army at the gates in Pt. Fortin

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » December 3rd, 2018, 9:33 am

Company issues memo on last day to say bring in proof of tax returns for 2017. Today no one on compound to receive said proof. This thing was really planned out well.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby ek4ever » December 3rd, 2018, 10:13 am

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:Replace Jamaica in the example with Singapore. Smaller than Trinidad. Very efficient train service.
Very punitive car ownership laws though. The average trini would not be able to own a car under the Singapore model .


Point is the public transport is efficient and cheap. You use the public transport because it is excellent. They intentionally make cars expensive. The two aren’t a mistake.

Here public transport is rubbish. Car ownership is also increased on a whim while nothing is done to improve public transport.


Exactly. Didn't want to say it but that was my example, just wanting to focus more on Caribbean countries now trying to go back to railroad after seeing what a failure road transport has become.

Second point spot on. The measure of a public service is how many people prefer to use it rather than private transport. If you have to force people to use it, that is fail ... like Trinidad. There are many cities where the public transport is more efficient that driving your own car. Of course Trinidad will never get to this state #thirdworldforever

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » December 3rd, 2018, 10:20 am

Heard amalgamated security broke into the Trinmar canteen and stole everything lol

Smile your on camera!

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Postby kstt » December 3rd, 2018, 10:24 am

tr1ad wrote:
kstt wrote:Hearing that there is no security at gates the morning. Please let the scrap iron men know this.



at PaP amalgamated out


What about Forest Reserve?

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Postby Pointman-IA » December 3rd, 2018, 10:36 am

kstt wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
kstt wrote:Hearing that there is no security at gates the morning. Please let the scrap iron men know this.



at PaP amalgamated out


What about Forest Reserve?
Don't attempt to pass

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby car » December 3rd, 2018, 11:10 am

kstt wrote:Heard amalgamated security broke into the Trinmar canteen and stole everything lol

Smile your on camera!


They even cook the chicken from the freezer.

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Postby Redress10 » December 3rd, 2018, 11:34 am

car wrote:
kstt wrote:Heard amalgamated security broke into the Trinmar canteen and stole everything lol

Smile your on camera!


They even cook the chicken from the freezer.


And some still like to pretend that Trinidad is nothing more than Haiti with oil.

Well........at least we had oil

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby K74T » December 3rd, 2018, 12:13 pm

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby The_Honourable » December 3rd, 2018, 12:19 pm

On CNC3's the Morning Brew earlier today Hema Ramkissoon spoke with former OWTU leader Errol McLeod who believed that now leader Ancel Roget's approach did not contribute to work in any way.


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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby nervewrecker » December 3rd, 2018, 1:58 pm

kstt wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
kstt wrote:Hearing that there is no security at gates the morning. Please let the scrap iron men know this.



at PaP amalgamated out


What about Forest Reserve?
Amalgamated.

No one is allowed in.

Now I have to make the rounds for school. Sigh

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby bluefete » December 3rd, 2018, 6:03 pm

Pot calling the kettle black?


The_Honourable wrote:On CNC3's the Morning Brew earlier today Hema Ramkissoon spoke with former OWTU leader Errol McLeod who believed that now leader Ancel Roget's approach did not contribute to work in any way.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » December 3rd, 2018, 10:26 pm

Wdf who ask Erroll McLeod for a history of Petrotrin.

We want to know today!! I give up waiting to hear how Petrotrin could be saved.

Yea?

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Numb3r4 » December 3rd, 2018, 10:57 pm

Why talk to Errol wouldn't it be better to speak to Jennifer Baptiste-Primus?

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » December 3rd, 2018, 10:58 pm

Numb3r4 wrote:Why talk to Errol wouldn't it be better to speak to Jennifer Baptiste-Primus?


Cuz she clearly does not want to talk.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Monkey Man » December 3rd, 2018, 11:27 pm

He could even see what the pnm doing??

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby Joshie23 » December 4th, 2018, 2:33 am

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
Numb3r4 wrote:Why talk to Errol wouldn't it be better to speak to Jennifer Baptiste-Primus?


Cuz she clearly has lost the ability to talk.


Fixed it.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby kstt » December 4th, 2018, 4:26 pm

MAYBE the closing down of a 1% owned bank at a mall nearby to Petrotrin might be 1% insider information about the shutting down of Petrotrin before the public and workers knew about it??????

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down

Postby The_Honourable » December 4th, 2018, 5:14 pm

kstt wrote:MAYBE the closing down of a 1% owned bank at a mall nearby to Petrotrin might be 1% insider information about the shutting down of Petrotrin before the public and workers knew about it??????


If it's RBC you talking about, they reopened in Marabella proper.

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