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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby hydroep » August 24th, 2018, 9:09 pm

Ent on Labour Day, Roget said he planned to hold some big march or shut down in September? Ent people found that was strange, as in why wait so long?

With this development it's certainly beginning to look as if he was in on the gig and delayed industrial action to give the Government and Petrotrin time to pull this thing off.

If that is the case dem Petrotrin workers should string him up by he balls...:|
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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby Ben_spanna » August 24th, 2018, 9:43 pm

From cloth to bakeries to oil refinery,,, it all goes to a certain sector of society finally taking charge of yet another one of trinidads most prosperous businesses.

Thats right, kick out all the locusts and sponges at petrotrin, long time now they have been raping this country , make way for hairy back people to whip all the refinery guages....

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby hydroep » August 24th, 2018, 9:59 pm

Ben_spanna wrote:From cloth to bakeries to oil refinery,,, it all goes to a certain sector of society finally taking charge of yet another one of trinidads most prosperous businesses.

Thats right, kick out all the locusts and sponges at petrotrin, long time now they have been raping this country , make way for hairy back people to whip all the refinery guages....


So, the real question is this: Is the true cost of an ORTT medal an oil refinery :?:

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby sinister_14 » August 25th, 2018, 1:05 am

So i just had a conversation with an refinery supervisor....all printers has been remove and no flash drive can be used on any system...and there are locked out to certain parts of their intranet...also they cut back on how much weeks temporary staff works for the month....also it is true certain individuals from the arms force are being trained discretely in certain department...workers on the site are in panic mode not knowing how things are going to unfold next week...workers are aware that the union sold them out and this time its serious also there is a certain company on stand-by to take over the company and some ppl would have to re apply for their jobs....

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby sinister_14 » August 25th, 2018, 1:39 am

sinister_14 wrote:So i just had a conversation with an refinery supervisor....all printers has been remove and no flash drive can be used on any system...and there are locked out to certain parts of their intranet...also they cut back on how much weeks temporary staff works for the month....also it is true certain individuals from the arms force are being trained discretely in certain department...workers on the site are in panic mode not knowing how things are going to unfold next week...workers are aware that the union sold them out and this time its serious also there is a certain company on stand-by to take over the company and some ppl would have to re apply for their jobs....
I hope that all citizens of this country eyes open up and realise that both government was responsible for crippling this company and now the foot soldiers have to pay the price for their corruption....this is unfair....

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby hydroep » August 25th, 2018, 2:51 am

So the OWTU is going to Dr. Rowley's residence with FULL FORCE — to pray. Yes, 'prayers' will save them...:|

Prayers for Petrotrin
OWTU to assemble at PM’s residence
Yvonne Webb 21 Minutes Ago

THE board of State-owned Petrotrin has invited the executive and Oilfield Workers Trade Union (OWTU) to join them next Tuesday for a presentation on the way forward for the company.

The meeting is scheduled for 10.30 am. The venue for the meeting has not been disclosed.

Efforts to confirm whether the union would meet with the board were unsuccessful. However, in a meeting on Friday evening in Point Fortin, OWTU’s president general Ancel Roget confirmed that the union was going with full force to the Diplomatic Centre residence of Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley, in Port of Spain, on Sunday, to pray for Petrotrin’s survival.

This invitation from the board comes amid speculation fueled by the Opposition that the company was moving forward with plans to retrench workers and deploy soldiers to protect as well as operate the company’s assets. Roget said he was “expecting anything.”

It also follows a meeting Rowley called with the OWTU, one week ago, to discuss the state of the oil company. Both the union and Government agreed that restructuring was the answer to make it viable but held no common grounds on the separation of workers in the process. In the week the country experienced the worst earthquake in this century, Petrotrin continued to rock, not with tremors, but with speculation which began circulating on Friday that Tuesday’s meeting was to roll out the retrenchment plan.

Opposition MP David Lee said he received reports that at both Santa Flora and Pointe-a-Pierre employees were barred from accessing certain functions on their computers, from using printers while USB ports were all locked down to prevent the copying of files. The company dismissed these claims. Chairman Wilfred Espinet said outright he was not going to try to compete with rumours and got the company to release an official response saying all was well.

“Petrotrin continues to operate normally and there has been no change to routine activity. Petrotrin will advise the public of any change as necessary,” the release stated. In an earlier interview, OWTU’s education officer Ozzie Warwick also dismissed reports of the deployment of soldiers to man Petrotrin’s installations as misleading and untrue. Workers said while there was a feeling of unease among them, there were no visible signs of such changes taking place.

Opposition MP Rudy Indarsingh charged that the Rowley/OWTU meeting last week was a farce and that retrenchment was on the cards. He said if workers were sent home, that would affect not only the employees, but the economy of Pointe-a-Pierre and the surrounding communities.

Lee, the MP for Pointe-Pierre where the main refinery is located, said he too had heard restructuring rumours which was creating fear among workers and called on Rowley to “come clean on Petrotrin.”
21 Minutes Ago Yvonne Webb


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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » August 25th, 2018, 6:53 am

sinister_14 wrote:
sinister_14 wrote:So i just had a conversation with an refinery supervisor....all printers has been remove and no flash drive can be used on any system...and there are locked out to certain parts of their intranet...also they cut back on how much weeks temporary staff works for the month....also it is true certain individuals from the arms force are being trained discretely in certain department...workers on the site are in panic mode not knowing how things are going to unfold next week...workers are aware that the union sold them out and this time its serious also there is a certain company on stand-by to take over the company and some ppl would have to re apply for their jobs....
I hope that all citizens of this country eyes open up and realise that both government was responsible for crippling this company and now the foot soldiers have to pay the price for their corruption....this is unfair....


This basically. The talk will be on wages but the real issues that make the company critical are born out of bad decisions made over many years and through different governments.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby Redman » August 25th, 2018, 7:52 am

its laughable when the truth is that management,govt and the workers/unions are collectively responsible over the last 30 years..but they point at each other as being THE problem.

LABOR is the only component that cannot be easily replaced....reduced maybe..retool/ retrained sure.....but not replaced.
The union should be consolidating its position to leverage its power in order to prepare for those times.
Roget stuck in his 80s playbook

you cannot correct Petrotrin starting from a misdiagnosis

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby Redman » August 25th, 2018, 8:08 am

hydroep wrote:Ent on Labour Day, Roget said he planned to hold some big march or shut down in September? Ent people found that was strange, as in why wait so long?

With this development it's certainly beginning to look as if he was in on the gig and delayed industrial action to give the Government and Petrotrin time to pull this thing off.

If that is the case dem Petrotrin workers should string him up by he balls...:|


Whats the process to shut down or shut in a refinery-if the gameplan is to restart it

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby sMASH » August 25th, 2018, 8:25 am

If they training people on 5he downlow, then yes ting going on.


Might as well call the country sabgaland.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby Snyper » August 25th, 2018, 9:48 am

If Petrotrin is serious about restructuring do away with Non-Core services and outsource departments like IT, Security and others which could help lead to a much more lean and agile company.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby sinister_14 » August 25th, 2018, 10:04 am

jcrew wrote:http://ttwhistleblower.com/bad-business-negligence-worse-new-correspondence-records-make-extremely-strong-case-jones/
For that kind of money which was spent on the fail gtl plant could have build 3 ammonia plant producing about 2040 mtpd...each and employed about 450 permanent worker....

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby jcrew » August 25th, 2018, 10:11 am

EXACTLY and this pnm govt drop the case against Malcolm he lucky he wasn't associated with the yellow party. They Would Have jail, crucified and castrate him long time.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby nervewrecker » August 25th, 2018, 10:11 am

Yall failing to realize the objective it to preach doom amd gloom so they can give it away cheap.
Amount of money in scrap iron alone is like wow. Copper that is.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby sinister_14 » August 25th, 2018, 10:17 am

jcrew wrote:EXACTLY and this pnm govt drop the case against Malcolm he lucky he wasn't associated with the yellow party. They Would Have jail, crucified and castrate him long time.
People need to open their eyes and jail all them politician for corruption and mismanagement of state fund and seize all their assets and let them repay the state but people are brain washed by these parties make them feel their are responsible for this company failure...but it was management and the government people need to wake up!!!

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Postby rebound » August 25th, 2018, 10:33 am

And they eh riot yet.....this admin knows exactly what they are doing

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby Joshie23 » August 25th, 2018, 11:09 am

sinister_14 wrote:
jcrew wrote:EXACTLY and this pnm govt drop the case against Malcolm he lucky he wasn't associated with the yellow party. They Would Have jail, crucified and castrate him long time.
People need to open their eyes and jail all them politician for corruption and mismanagement of state fund and seize all their assets and let them repay the state but people are brain washed by these parties make them feel their are responsible for this company failure...but it was management and the government people need to wake up!!!


Nah. It's easier to screw your pan at your Refinery Operator, Production Operator or Trinmar neighbour and hope that they lose their job right before you jump in your car to thump on your dashboard in agreement with the radio announcer that's vex with the cleaner who's making more than a doctor but not before you quarrel for the 850th time this week about this 'kissmearse gas price that gone up again!!', all while on on your way to wave your Balisier in Rienzi Complex after dropping off your 19th underqualified résumé in Pointe-a-Pi.........

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Postby RedVEVO » August 25th, 2018, 11:18 am

Sell , sell, sell.

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Postby Joshie23 » August 25th, 2018, 11:20 am

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If you thought I was joking. (Extracted from a political page on Facebook).

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby RedVEVO » August 25th, 2018, 11:21 am

The solution is to sell Petrotrin .

Ask Shell or Repsol .

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby Cantmis » August 25th, 2018, 11:30 am

Shell repsol etc come in, take and leave !

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby RedVEVO » August 25th, 2018, 11:36 am

The days of the big bad unions are over .

Rouget and Watson did not get the memo.

PNM will sell Petrotrin just because they can - no other reason .

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby infinite_RPM » August 25th, 2018, 1:04 pm

Lol we know that this petrotrin restructuring inevitable.. what's the plan for Wasa/tstt/ttec

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » August 25th, 2018, 1:05 pm

infinite_RPM wrote:Lol we know that this petrotrin restructuring inevitable.. what's the plan for Wasa/tstt/ttec


Probably none. No big loan to payback so no push for government to do anything.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby infinite_RPM » August 25th, 2018, 1:12 pm

Is how the unions lull their members into a false sense of security when the govt always had a strongarm over them.. hope this move stikes fear into the rest of the public sectors.. unfortunately fear is the best motivator for productivity

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Postby Joshie23 » August 25th, 2018, 1:19 pm

infinite_RPM wrote:Is how the unions lull their members into a false sense of security when the govt always had a strongarm over them.. hope this move stikes fear into the rest of the public sectors.. unfortunately fear is the best motivator for productivity


If fear is the best motivator for productivity, then what should be the best motivator for accountability, namely from the 'powers that be'?

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Postby lalloboy101 » August 25th, 2018, 1:23 pm

All this and they still going ahead to fix the ULSD plant to a tune of 1.2b.

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Re: Petrotrin refinery to shut down?

Postby pjfred » August 25th, 2018, 2:12 pm

Joshie23 wrote:
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If you thought I was joking. (Extracted from a political page on Facebook).
Cleaner/labourer at Petro is $1900 per week after tax. Get your figures right. Stupid is as stupid does.

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