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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby RedVEVO » January 10th, 2019, 10:44 am

carluva wrote:
Les Bain wrote:WTK: My dad gave me a hybrid King Orange plant and it's been planted in my back yard about 3 or 4 years now. The only thing it bearing is picker.

It's been on bearing salts like 4 months now and it still yet to bear. Is it a fail or am I doing something wrong?


If it is grafted, usually a lemon branch is used as the start for the graft. So as the plant grows, you have the lemon growing as well as the orange. You need to keep cutting back the lemon stems to allow the graft to grow otherwise the lemon will take over. Were you doing this regularly? If not, you literally got a lemon on your hands there.

On a funny note, i had a few citrus in my yard, some not bearing after 6 years. A few years ago, i hit up the tree with a cutlass and talk to it real rough and threaten to cut it down. Next season, fruit start to bear. A small grap tho. Season after that, every day i picking 2 buckets of citrus... try that with the tree... old wifes tale that appears to work.


The old wives tale works ..

Same experience I had some years ago .

I cut down the tree and cuss since it was not bearing citrus and taking up space

Then it grew back and produced .

Go figure .

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby link » January 10th, 2019, 7:59 pm

adnj wrote:I have seen avocado, citrus and mangoes bearing fruit while in pots in California.

They weren't special varieties. They were kept pruned.

and fertilised.........important in a limited amount of soil , but reaping year after year of a limited amount of fruit for personal use is possible using pot culture
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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby RedVEVO » January 11th, 2019, 12:13 am

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carluva wrote:
Les Bain wrote:WTK: My dad gave me a hybrid King Orange plant and it's been planted in my back yard about 3 or 4 years now. The only thing it bearing is picker.

It's been on bearing salts like 4 months now and it still yet to bear. Is it a fail or am I doing something wrong?


If it is grafted, usually a lemon branch is used as the start for the graft. So as the plant grows, you have the lemon growing as well as the orange. You need to keep cutting back the lemon stems to allow the graft to grow otherwise the lemon will take over. Were you doing this regularly? If not, you literally got a lemon on your hands there.

On a funny note, i had a few citrus in my yard, some not bearing after 6 years. A few years ago, i hit up the tree with a cutlass and talk to it real rough and threaten to cut it down. Next season, fruit start to bear. A small grap tho. Season after that, every day i picking 2 buckets of citrus... try that with the tree... old wifes tale that appears to work.
Hammer in a rusty nails on the trunk....


Might work , if pH is too high.

Soil pH for citrus supposed to be between 5.5 and 6.5

Proper test kits can be bought online, but I cheap so.....

DIY test: Collect 2 teaspoons of soil and put them into a plastic cup.
Add a half cup of vinegar to 1. if it fizzes, your soil is alkaline.

If not you have some other kind of problem


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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby d.d.s. » January 11th, 2019, 6:34 am

Soil test for pH etc can be done at
Research Division
Central Experiment Station
Caroni North Bank Road
Centeno
Trinidad, West Indies
Tel. (868) 646-4335/6

I too have experienced plants bearing fruit after hammering in a nail or chopping it. I was thinking maybe it works because you 'stress' the plant (damage it's life span) and so it's 'forced' it flowering etc to propagate it onwards ???

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby nick639v2 » January 11th, 2019, 7:09 am

^^ na na Daz too much thought.

So ulyuh never notice the woman who does take Lil cut tail does love the most... Tried and true for all life then I guess

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby timelapse » January 11th, 2019, 7:15 am

d.d.s. wrote:Soil test for pH etc can be done at
Research Division
Central Experiment Station
Caroni North Bank Road
Centeno
Trinidad, West Indies
Tel. (868) 646-4335/6

I too have experienced plants bearing fruit after hammering in a nail or chopping it. I was thinking maybe it works because you 'stress' the plant (damage it's life span) and so it's 'forced' it flowering etc to propagate it onwards ???


It works because
1.Iron is a very good supplement
2.Iron lowers the pH

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby MG Man » January 11th, 2019, 8:42 am

carluva wrote:[

On a funny note, i had a few citrus in my yard, some not bearing after 6 years. A few years ago, i hit up the tree with a cutlass and talk to it real rough and threaten to cut it down. Next season, fruit start to bear. A small grap tho. Season after that, every day i picking 2 buckets of citrus... try that with the tree... old wifes tale that appears to work.


does this work on oman if they eh makin chile?
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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby Les Bain » January 11th, 2019, 11:58 am

Thanks for all those responses. I'll look into it. The decorative plants thrive really well in the back yard. The King Orange and the lime tree just dey, not action for years.

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby timelapse » January 11th, 2019, 2:08 pm

Les Bain wrote:Thanks for all those responses. I'll look into it. The decorative plants thrive really well in the back yard. The King Orange and the lime tree just dey, not action for years.



Rusty iron does wukk, and crushed oyster shells for some reason.I still wonder how the oyster shells work

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby SMc » January 11th, 2019, 3:41 pm

Oyster shells are pretty much calcium bicarbonate so when added to soil can help balance out the acidity in the soil which helps plants in plenty ways.

Also if you stick a shell in the kettle you find all the limescale (calcium and magnesium) stick to it rather than the kettle itself as limescale is drawn to limescale and likes to build on itself- (please note not scientifically proven but worked for me years ago)

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby rebound » January 11th, 2019, 10:26 pm

Interesting, going to try that nail thing...

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby adnj » January 12th, 2019, 5:56 am

If the soil is alkaline (high pH) or you have been using too much phosphorous in your fertilizer, simply use ferrous sulfate (FeSO4) sprinkled around the tree. It's cheap.

Too much nitrogen can cause problems too: reduced root growth, too many leaves, dehydration of the plant, and less fruit production.

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby pugboy » January 12th, 2019, 10:39 am

anybody ever heard about technique of pulling branches below horizontal to stimulate bearing ?

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby rebound » January 13th, 2019, 1:50 pm

Got this Kafir Lime from a guy in Balmain. Notice the double leaf.
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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby aidan » August 26th, 2019, 2:38 pm

Good day fellas. There was a person on FB market place advertising dwarf fruit trees, but I can't seem to find the ad. Anyone knows where I may be able to get me some of these? Looking for citrus mainly.

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby Phone Surgeon » August 26th, 2019, 3:16 pm

Joshua Joshua?

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby pugboy » August 26th, 2019, 3:59 pm

Lolll
Nice pics of plants bearing in pots but doesn’t answer any questions


Phone Surgeon wrote:Joshua Joshua?

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby aidan » August 26th, 2019, 4:03 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:Joshua Joshua?
Not sure nah, just remembered seeing the photos. Cleared out some space and was thinking might be something worth looking into to put there.

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby aidan » August 26th, 2019, 4:03 pm

pugboy wrote:Lolll
Nice pics of plants bearing in pots but doesn’t answer any questions


Phone Surgeon wrote:Joshua Joshua?
Sounds like it may not be legit?

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby pugboy » August 26th, 2019, 4:56 pm

Many of them graft plant sellers are not honest
Just saying
It’s a real cat in bag that you wait a few years for

aidan wrote:
pugboy wrote:Lolll
Nice pics of plants bearing in pots but doesn’t answer any questions


Phone Surgeon wrote:Joshua Joshua?
Sounds like it may not be legit?

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby Phone Surgeon » August 26th, 2019, 10:36 pm

Check uwi in farm road. Know how long I suppose to go there to see what they have.

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby RedVEVO » August 29th, 2019, 2:50 am

Where can people get a " julie mango " tree to buy ?

And like today ..

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby axe » August 29th, 2019, 6:50 pm

Jus putting this out for those who cares to know.
I have done hundreds of grafting and budding.

There is a disease called tristeza which can curtail a citrus plant to 5 years or less.
That's why for decades we used cleopatra mandarin as rootstock because it is resistant and passes on this triat to the budded tree.
Downside of this the tree is less prolific, even bears less when compared to other rootstocks such as sour orange.

Many people use the sour orange today. The plants look more full, the bearing will be better... But friend 5 years later it dies.

People like how these plants look, the ones on cleopatra stock always seemed stunted. Unscrupulous people today know that the buyer wouldn't know....

Anyways hope this helps someone

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby RedVEVO » August 30th, 2019, 8:34 am

axe wrote:Jus putting this out for those who cares to know.
I have done hundreds of grafting and budding.

There is a disease called tristeza which can curtail a citrus plant to 5 years or less.
That's why for decades we used cleopatra mandarin as rootstock because it is resistant and passes on this triat to the budded tree.
Downside of this the tree is less prolific, even bears less when compared to other rootstocks such as sour orange.

Many people use the sour orange today. The plants look more full, the bearing will be better... But friend 5 years later it dies.

People like how these plants look, the ones on cleopatra stock always seemed stunted. Unscrupulous people today know that the buyer wouldn't know....

Anyways hope this helps someone


Excellent info here brother !

Can you recommend the best (sweet - dulce ) orange types Trinidad has to offer and where you can buy ?

Maybe you can form a group and teach your gift "of grafting and budding" ?

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby pugboy » August 30th, 2019, 10:08 am

The otnick? Orange is one of better tasting ones

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby axe » August 30th, 2019, 4:18 pm

It's ortanique actually

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Re: Hybrid fruit trees

Postby axe » August 30th, 2019, 4:19 pm

Usually sweetest is the humble Parson Brown, and Pineapple Orange.

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