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zoom rader wrote:Yup frozen for Venezuela protection untill they become stable.Redman wrote:France sent the gold voluntarily.
In anticipation of the invasion.
The UK has UNILATERALLY frozen the gold.
Many countries store national gold in the course of business.
If you can't see the difference there then you can't see the difference between consensual sex and rape.
Most of us know that.
If the UK had not frozen it , it would have disappeared by now.
It's better in the hands of the Brits rather than the bankrupt US government.
Redman wrote:zoom rader wrote:Yup frozen for Venezuela protection untill they become stable.Redman wrote:France sent the gold voluntarily.
In anticipation of the invasion.
The UK has UNILATERALLY frozen the gold.
Many countries store national gold in the course of business.
If you can't see the difference there then you can't see the difference between consensual sex and rape.
Most of us know that.
If the UK had not frozen it , it would have disappeared by now.
It's better in the hands of the Brits rather than the bankrupt US government.
That's asinine.
Its unabashed theft.
It's called being responsible.Redman wrote:Again-however you feel about Maduro....the function of the UK CB storing the gold does not involve rendering judgement on the politics.
Thats like the bank having discretion to not give you your money on your request based on what they think about what you going to do with it.
That there is basic fcukery
Reds take a chill pill bro, Venny unstable right now and the Brits seeking their best interest.Redman wrote:wtf does that have to do with the UK withholding a sovereign entities assets based on an internal political issue?
This is a repeat of Libya and Iraq-they all declared a desire to come off the USD.
Redman wrote:Again-however you feel about Maduro....the function of the UK CB storing the gold does not involve rendering judgement on the politics.
Thats like the bank having discretion to not give you your money on your request based on what they think about what you going to do with it.
That there is basic fcukery
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1078864/venezuela-riots-news-bank-of-england-nicolas-madurRedman wrote:Free and fair like the Saudis?
At least lets be real here-the US aint worried about democracy,humanitarian issues or free and fair elections.
My point remains- the use of the financial relationships of the various Central Banks to force a political POV is a dangerous precedent. The storage of the gold reserves is not a political tool.
Thats all.
And yeah Abu would have gotten the money if the US felt he would have been easier to deal with-ask Saddam and Muammar.
Redman wrote:I see Tim Stew...the UK ambassador I think....finds the position of TnT to be reasonable.
I guess he must be PNM.
Maduro will probably fall under his own weight...but rest assured the millions of people that support him will not go quietly home.
bluefete wrote:"We do not know what submarines pass between Trinidad and Tobago".
Well we better start investing in some equipment to help us know. The Columbian drug lords have a supply of submarines to transport cocaine through our water.
De Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:I see Tim Stew...the UK ambassador I think....finds the position of TnT to be reasonable.
I guess he must be PNM.
Maduro will probably fall under his own weight...but rest assured the millions of people that support him will not go quietly home.
Is Tim Stew representing the superpower pushing to remove Maduro?
The US had made it crystal clear how they view OUR position on Venezuela, as articulated by JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels Young. Moses couldn't even be entrusted to make the statement, because he is a fraud. Guiado undoubtedly will be made aware of our position, and if he does become the next Venezuelan President, then we have started off on the wrong foot already. The motivations of the US may not be entirely honourable, but either we get on the train, or get run over, plain and simple.
Redman wrote:Free and fair like the Saudis?
At least lets be real here-the US aint worried about democracy,humanitarian issues or free and fair elections.
My point remains- the use of the financial relationships of the various Central Banks to force a political POV is a dangerous precedent. The storage of the gold reserves is not a political tool.
Thats all.
And yeah Abu would have gotten the money if the US felt he would have been easier to deal with-ask Saddam and Muammar.
$840M in gold bars prepared for loading onto Russian jet at Venezuelan airport: report
About 20 tons of gold from Venezuela's central bank was ready to be hauled away Tuesday on a Russian airline's Boeing 777 that landed in Caracas a day earlier, a Venezuelan lawmaker wrote on Twitter.
The destination of the $840 million in gold bars was unknown, but a source told Bloomberg News that it represented about 20 percent of the country's holding of the metal. The gold was set aside for loading, the report said.
The news outlet, which first reported on the tweet, identified the lawmaker as Jose Guerra. The lawmaker did not provide evidence for his claim but is identified in the report as a former economist at the country's central bank with close ties to workers still there.
Noticias Venezuela, a news outlet in the country, posted a photo of what it identified as a Nordwind Airlines plane from Moscow that made the trip with only a crew aboard.
Simon Zerpa, Venezuela's finance minister, did not comment about the gold when reached by Bloomberg and denied there was a Russian plane at the Simon Bolivar International Airport in Caracas.
"I'm going to start bringing Russian and Turkish airplanes every week so everybody gets scared," he joked.
Bloomberg reached out to Nordwind, which did not comment on the purpose of the flight. The airline did not immediately respond to an email from Fox News.
A plane belonging to a Moscow-based company was reportedly seen Monday heading to an international airport near Caracas, according to flight tracking records.
Reuters reported that there had been speculation about the jet that was “parked by a private corner of the airport.” And Reuters reported that it was the first time the plane made the trip.
Some conspiracy theories have circulated, including that the plane carried mercenaries, but there was no solid evidence, Reuters reported.
Russia, one of President Nicolas Maduro's staunchest supporters, is reportedly owed billions by the Latin American nation. Russia has said it expects Venezuela to have problems repaying debt ahead of an upcoming payment on a Russian loan.
Russia also has extensive commercial interests in Venezuela, including state oil company Rosneft’s partnership with Petroleos de Venezuela SA, a state company placed under sanctions Monday by the United States.
Venezuela is treading in the uncharted political waters after opposition leader Juan Guaido declared himself interim head of state last week in a direct challenge to Maduro’s reign. The 35-year-old head of the opposition-led national assembly has the backing of more than a dozen mostly western nations including the United States, Canada and several members of the European Union.
Venezuela's Supreme Court on Tuesday agreed to a prosecutor's request to prevent Guaido from leaving the country while the Socialist government conducts a criminal probe into his activities.
Guaido said outside the National Assembly building that he was aware of personal risks, but added, "Venezuela is set on change, and the world is clearly conscious of what's happening."
teems1 wrote:Redman wrote:Free and fair like the Saudis?
At least lets be real here-the US aint worried about democracy,humanitarian issues or free and fair elections.
My point remains- the use of the financial relationships of the various Central Banks to force a political POV is a dangerous precedent. The storage of the gold reserves is not a political tool.
Thats all.
And yeah Abu would have gotten the money if the US felt he would have been easier to deal with-ask Saddam and Muammar.
Saudi Arabia is a monarchy ruled by an absolute monarch. They don't have elections.
The King of Saudi Arabia is the head of state and head of government.
It's still not a proper comparison.
Also no one is forcing Venezuela to store their gold for safekeeping abroad. They could have set up a Fort Knox style facility within their own borders if they wanted.
pugboy wrote:Saudis should be glad for this vene diversion
The world has now forgotten Khashoggi
Redman wrote:teems1 wrote:Redman wrote:Free and fair like the Saudis?
At least lets be real here-the US aint worried about democracy,humanitarian issues or free and fair elections.
My point remains- the use of the financial relationships of the various Central Banks to force a political POV is a dangerous precedent. The storage of the gold reserves is not a political tool.
Thats all.
And yeah Abu would have gotten the money if the US felt he would have been easier to deal with-ask Saddam and Muammar.
Saudi Arabia is a monarchy ruled by an absolute monarch. They don't have elections.
The King of Saudi Arabia is the head of state and head of government.
It's still not a proper comparison.
Also no one is forcing Venezuela to store their gold for safekeeping abroad. They could have set up a Fort Knox style facility within their own borders if they wanted.
Yep
Saudi isnt free nor fair-and yet the US isnt forcing regime change.
This is leading to a real civil war.
Again US fomented instability in the name of 'democracy'
Redman wrote:teems1 wrote:Redman wrote:Free and fair like the Saudis?
At least lets be real here-the US aint worried about democracy,humanitarian issues or free and fair elections.
My point remains- the use of the financial relationships of the various Central Banks to force a political POV is a dangerous precedent. The storage of the gold reserves is not a political tool.
Thats all.
And yeah Abu would have gotten the money if the US felt he would have been easier to deal with-ask Saddam and Muammar.
Saudi Arabia is a monarchy ruled by an absolute monarch. They don't have elections.
The King of Saudi Arabia is the head of state and head of government.
It's still not a proper comparison.
Also no one is forcing Venezuela to store their gold for safekeeping abroad. They could have set up a Fort Knox style facility within their own borders if they wanted.
Yep
Saudi isnt free nor fair-and yet the US isnt forcing regime change.
This is leading to a real civil war.
Again US fomented instability in the name of 'democracy'
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