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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby De Dragon » February 2nd, 2019, 10:32 am

Redman wrote:Um teems and I are talking about the central bank thing

And that this move by the us has nothing to do with democracy, humanitarian concerns, or the Venezuelan people.

That's all

Thanks for your permission to reply :roll:
Love how when you're challenged on your sheit talk you revert invariably to your "talk done" "that is all" stance :lol:

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby Redman » February 2nd, 2019, 10:38 am

De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:Um teems and I are talking about the central bank thing

And that this move by the us has nothing to do with democracy, humanitarian concerns, or the Venezuelan people.

That's all

Thanks for your permission to reply :roll:
Love how when you're challenged on your sheit talk you revert invariably to your "talk done" "that is all" stance :lol:


no not' talk done'- more like thats all i thought we discussing
I know very well you eh taking a talk done post quietly.

This is just a discussion - and whatever will happen-will not have to be within the limits or right and wrong,legal or illegal and in this context in the promotion of democracy or humanitarian rights.

This is plain overt resource grab cuz they can.

The precedents being set (or reset in the western hemisphere) are really my concern

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby The_Honourable » February 2nd, 2019, 10:48 am

Saw this on fb - https://www.facebook.com/darryn.boodan/ ... 9628485023

The "conference on "Venezuela "by Uruguay Mexico and Caricom is just an attempt at a stalling tactic. All of these countries are Chavista sympathizers and not neutral as they claim.

Mexico, in particular, is now led by a lunatic who wants to impose the same Chavez model there.

Dr. Rowley wants Maduro to stay because he knows the national assembly will never approve the dragon gas deal ..or at least under whatever terms he and Maduro made.

And Caricom states know that any new government will discontinue Petro Caribe. Call in debt owed. And worst ...audit the books.

This conference is not about peace... it's about these countries protecting their business deals with the dictatorship

Juan Guaido is right to reject it and not attend.

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby De Dragon » February 2nd, 2019, 10:50 am

Redman wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:Um teems and I are talking about the central bank thing

And that this move by the us has nothing to do with democracy, humanitarian concerns, or the Venezuelan people.

That's all

Thanks for your permission to reply :roll:
Love how when you're challenged on your sheit talk you revert invariably to your "talk done" "that is all" stance :lol:


no not' talk done'- more like thats all i thought we discussing
I know very well you eh taking a talk done post quietly.

This is plain overt resource grab cuz they can.

The precedents being set (or reset in the western hemisphere) are really my concern

Disagree, even at the previous lowest ebb in relations between Maduro and the US, the oil was flowing, of course based on pure need from BOTH countries. The US
[b]This is just a discussion - and whatever will happen-will not have to be within the limits or right and wrong,legal or illegal and in this context in the promotion of democracy or humanitarian rights.
Disagree. Even at the lowest ebb in Maduro-Washington relations, the oil flowed. The US has recognized. probably planted, a means to remove a Russi/China/Iran allied rival. If Guiado were to do a "Maduro" , I suspect that the US would have no issue once he allies himself with them and doesn't embrace Russia/China/Iran. Look at Saudi Arabia, the US is loathe to condemn them even after the US intelligence agencieas all but said MbS called the hit on Khashoggi

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby The_Honourable » February 2nd, 2019, 3:45 pm

Despite the threats and abuses from officers, Venezuela's opposition movement is protesting again on Saturday. Juan Guaido, the U.S.-recognized interim president of Venezuela, asked Venezuelans around the world to join a demonstration against Nicolas Maduro.



Supporters of Venezuela's opposition leader Juan Guaido filled the streets of Caracas on Saturday in protest against Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.



Opposition supporters held a nationwide protest on Saturday in a bid to keep up the pressure on president Nicolás Maduro after the international community widely recognised self-proclaimed interim president Juan Guaidó as the legitimate president.


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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby hydroep » February 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm

Maduro proposes early parliamentary elections in Venezuela

Venezuelan President Niсolas Maduro has called for early elections to the National Assembly – a legislative body dominated by the opposition and led by Juan Guaido who declared himself interim leader last week.

Maduro's statement comes as thousands are rallying in the streets of Caracas both in support of and against his government.

Guaido's coup received immediate support from the US and its allies in Latin America and Europe while Russia, Mexico, China and other countries urged not to interfere into the domestic situation in the country. The political turmoil comes as Venezuela's economy has been plummeting due to low oil prices, sanctions and mismanagement leaving most of its population in poverty.

The regular parliamentary elections were expected to be held in Venezuela in 2020. However, Maduro said that the body needs to be “re-legitimized” as he addressed a large crowd of his supporters during a rally in Caracas.

The president said that he would consult the Venezuelan Constituent Assembly – a body elected in 2017 to draft the new constitution – on the issue. If the assembly backs the proposal the vote will be scheduled for some time this year. Earlier, Venezuela’s Supreme Court declared all acts of the National Assembly, headed by Guaido, as null and void.

Meanwhile, Venezuela continues to witness both pro and anti-government rallies. Tens of thousands of people took to the streets of the Venezuelan capital on Saturday to join a pro-government demonstration to celebrate 20 years since the late Venezuelan president, Hugo Chavez, launched the Bolivarian revolution.

A sea of people can be seen flooding a kilometers-long stretch of Bolivar Avenue in downtown Caracas to listen to Maduro’s speech. Crowds were waving Venezuela’s national flags and holding placards with portraits of Chavez.

Tens of thousands of people also gathered in the eastern part of the capital for a rally organized by the opposition. The national flag-waving crowds also occupied a long stretch in the city as they came to listen to Guaido.

In his speech, Maduro hailed the determination and “deep loyalty” of the people as demonstrated over the last 20 years, and called on Guaido-led opposition to engage in a dialog.

The president appealed to the reason of the opposition politicians and said he is ready to meet them “the day they want.” He also said economics and “national peace” would be the focus of the conversation.

The opposition leader’s statements were more belligerent, however. He declared that the upcoming month would become a “breaking point” in the opposition’s struggle for power and called for new massive protests on February 12. He also claimed that 90 percent of Venezuelans “want change” and “no one here fears a civil war.”


https://www.rt.com/news/450426-maduro-parliamentary-elections-venezuela/

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby hydroep » February 3rd, 2019, 8:55 am

Don't see the point of this if Guaido isn't going, unless they're also discussing regional security arrangents should things go to hell.

Rowley heads to peace talks

Caricom is once again set to take part in multilateral discussions aimed at finding a peaceful solution to political tensions in Venezuela. The same delegation, headed by Caricom chairman and St Kitts and Nevis Prime Minister Dr Timothy Harris, and including Barbados PM Mia Mottley and TT PM Dr Keith Rowley, will head to Uruguay on Thursday to take part in multilateral talks with that country and Mexico in the hope of being able to broker dialogue between embattled incumbent Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro and his challenger, the leader of the National Assembly and self-declared interim president of the country, Juan Guaido.

Guaido has gained the support and recognition of most Western countries, including the United States (US) and most South American nations, including Colombia, Peru and Brazil. Maduro, meanwhile, has secured the support of China and Russia.

This Caricom team is the same delegation that went last week to the UN to ask for assistance in mitigating any fallout.

The regional leaders were reportedly invited to the meeting, to be held in the Uruguayan capital, Montevideo, late Thursday, and called an emergency Heads of Government meeting on Friday, which Rowley and Foreign Affairs Minister Dennis Moses attended via video call.

“The governments of Mexico and Uruguay have called for the conference with representatives from the main countries and international organisations that hold a neutral position towards Venezuela. The purpose of the conference is to lay the foundation for establishing a new mechanism for dialogue that, with the inclusion of all Venezuelan forces, will contribute to restoring stability and peace in that country,” the Office of the Prime Minister said in a statement.

Mexico, Uruguay and Caricom have all maintained a neutral stance since the Guaido’s proclamation, which many, including Guaido himself, have suggested implicitly supports Maduro.

The success of these talks, then, remains to be seen, since Guaido has said, in a letter to both the Mexican and Uruguayan leaders, that he declined to attend any meeting that promotes anything other than free and fair election in Venezuela. Anything else, he said, will only serve to prolong the suffering of millions of Venezuelans. He also had strong words for those who remained neutral in the current impasse.

“In this historic moment that (Venezuela) is going through, being neutral means being on the side of a regime that has condemned hundreds of thousands of human beings to misery, to hunger, to exile, and even to death, to side with a few who have sequestered power for their own benefit, and who have proved themselves capable of persecuting , torture and even murder to maintain those privileges,” Guaido said in his letter.

He has also reached out to Venezuela’s main debt holders, China and Russia, offering an olive branch to talk about the best way to move forward for Venezuela.

Maduro, for his part, in a video recorded and posted to his official social media pages, directly addressed the US, imploring them to avoid another Viet-Nam war in Venezuela. He also accused Western media of perpetuating a fake news narrative intent to justify a “coup d’etat in Venezuela that has been set, financed and actively supported by (US President) Donald Trump.” The US on Wednesday sanctioned Venezuela state oil company, PDVSA’s nearly US$18 billion in assets, effectively starving the Maduro regime of income.

Last Monday, Maduro also said he would be open to mediation “in TT or wherever” and said he spoke at length to the Caricom delegation that had gone to the UN, which was later confirmed by Rowley at a press conference on Wednesday.


https://newsday.co.tt/2019/02/03/rowley-heads-to-peace-talks/

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby Melchizedek » February 4th, 2019, 6:35 am

The UK, Spain and other European countries have officially recognised opposition leader Juan Guaidó as interim president of Venezuela.

It comes after Pesident Nicolás Maduro defiantly rejected the EU's Sunday deadline to call snap elections.

French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said Mr Guaidó had the "legitimacy" to organise a fresh presidential vote.

Mr Guaidó declared himself interim leader last month and won US backing.

Embattled president Mr Maduro accuses him of organising a coup. He said he cannot rule out the possibility of civil war as pressure mounts on him to stand down,

In a TV interview, he warned that US President Donald Trump would leave the White House "stained with blood" if he intervened in the crisis.

Mr Guaidó said on Sunday he would build an international coalition to deliver humanitarian aid to Venezuelans.

On Monday, the UK, Spain, Denmark and Sweden officially recognised Mr Guaidó as interim president.

"UK alongside European allies now recognises @jguaido as interim constitutional president until credible elections can be held", Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said in a statement on Twitter.

Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez urged him to call elections "as quickly as possible."

"Venezuela should be the author of its own destiny. The international community has a duty to help and ensure that this happens with the necessary guarantees", he told reporters.

French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told reporters Mr Guaidó had the "legitimacy to organise presidential elections."

"People are on the streets, people want change," he told broadcaster France Inter.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47115857

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby The_Honourable » February 5th, 2019, 8:30 pm

Venezuela’s embattled President Nicolas Maduro has begun to speak out amid his country’s deepening political crisis. In an exclusive interview with RT, he addresses what he deems to be obvious motives behind the US clamor to replace him with opposition leader Juan Guaido.



Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said Monday he had appealed to Pope Francis in hopes he would assist in dialogue ahead of a "peace conference" led by Mexico on Feb. 7, before saying President Donald Trump was acting as if he was "the head of the Ku Klux Klan."



Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro is becoming increasingly isolated. Nineteen EU countries have recognised opposition leader Juan Guaido as interim president - joining much of Latin America, the United States and Canada.



A bloc of mainly Latin American nations - known as the Lima Group - has called on the international community to further isolate President Nicolas Maduro. A press conference in Ottawa was briefly disrupted by protesters opposed to the intervention in Venezuela.



Venezuela is facing a dire humanitarian crisis as President Nicolas Maduro and U.S.-backed opposition leader Juan Guaidó vie for power. The United Nations believes more than 3 milliion refugees have fled the country.


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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby De Dragon » February 6th, 2019, 5:15 pm

hydroep wrote:Don't see the point of this if Guaido isn't going, unless they're also discussing regional security arrangents should things go to hell.

Rowley heads to peace talks

Caricom is once again set to take part in multilateral discussions aimed at finding a peaceful solution to political tensions in Venezuela. The same delegation, headed by Caricom chairman and St Kitts and Nevis Prime Minister Dr Timothy Harris, and including Barbados PM Mia Mottley and TT PM Dr Keith Rowley, will head to Uruguay on Thursday to take part in multilateral talks with that country and Mexico in the hope of being able to broker dialogue between embattled incumbent Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro and his challenger, the leader of the National Assembly and self-declared interim president of the country, Juan Guaido.

Guaido has gained the support and recognition of most Western countries, including the United States (US) and most South American nations, including Colombia, Peru and Brazil. Maduro, meanwhile, has secured the support of China and Russia.

This Caricom team is the same delegation that went last week to the UN to ask for assistance in mitigating any fallout.

The regional leaders were reportedly invited to the meeting, to be held in the Uruguayan capital, Montevideo, late Thursday, and called an emergency Heads of Government meeting on Friday, which Rowley and Foreign Affairs Minister Dennis Moses attended via video call.

“The governments of Mexico and Uruguay have called for the conference with representatives from the main countries and international organisations that hold a neutral position towards Venezuela. The purpose of the conference is to lay the foundation for establishing a new mechanism for dialogue that, with the inclusion of all Venezuelan forces, will contribute to restoring stability and peace in that country,” the Office of the Prime Minister said in a statement.

Mexico, Uruguay and Caricom have all maintained a neutral stance since the Guaido’s proclamation, which many, including Guaido himself, have suggested implicitly supports Maduro.

The success of these talks, then, remains to be seen, since Guaido has said, in a letter to both the Mexican and Uruguayan leaders, that he declined to attend any meeting that promotes anything other than free and fair election in Venezuela. Anything else, he said, will only serve to prolong the suffering of millions of Venezuelans. He also had strong words for those who remained neutral in the current impasse.

“In this historic moment that (Venezuela) is going through, being neutral means being on the side of a regime that has condemned hundreds of thousands of human beings to misery, to hunger, to exile, and even to death, to side with a few who have sequestered power for their own benefit, and who have proved themselves capable of persecuting , torture and even murder to maintain those privileges,” Guaido said in his letter.

He has also reached out to Venezuela’s main debt holders, China and Russia, offering an olive branch to talk about the best way to move forward for Venezuela.

Maduro, for his part, in a video recorded and posted to his official social media pages, directly addressed the US, imploring them to avoid another Viet-Nam war in Venezuela. He also accused Western media of perpetuating a fake news narrative intent to justify a “coup d’etat in Venezuela that has been set, financed and actively supported by (US President) Donald Trump.” The US on Wednesday sanctioned Venezuela state oil company, PDVSA’s nearly US$18 billion in assets, effectively starving the Maduro regime of income.

Last Monday, Maduro also said he would be open to mediation “in TT or wherever” and said he spoke at length to the Caricom delegation that had gone to the UN, which was later confirmed by Rowley at a press conference on Wednesday.


https://newsday.co.tt/2019/02/03/rowley-heads-to-peace-talks/

So the folly of the open support for Maduro by the GORTT is further proven to have been a premature, selfish and ill advised move.

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby The_Honourable » February 7th, 2019, 2:39 pm

The United Nations has warned against using aid as a pawn in Venezuela. US officials say trucks carrying aid have arrived in Colombia for delivery to Venezuela. It is at the request of Juan Guaido, who last month declared himself interim president.



The Venezuelan government claimed to have intercepted an arms shipment coming from the US on Wednesday. According to the interior ministry, the stash included rifles, ammunition & communications equipment.



A standoff over humanitarian aid is deepening as Venezuela's political crisis plays out on the country's border.


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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » February 12th, 2019, 6:48 am

https://newsday.co.tt/2019/02/11/we-reject-rowley/

REJECTED!

This was the view of Deputy to the Venezuelan National Assembly Carlos Enrique Valero who yesterday took to his twitter account,
@CarlosValero08, to condemn and outright reject Prime Minister Dr Rowley and the TT government for its continued "support" of the Nicolás Maduro government in Venezuela.

Head of the National Assembly Juan Guaidó has declared himself interim President of Venezuela and has the support of the European Union (EU), Canada, the United States and several other major world nations. Maduro has the support of Russia and China and more importantly, the Venezuelan military.

Valero first issued a release to the Trinidad and Tobago public last week, thanking the government and police for the rescue of 19 Spanish-speaking girls during a sex raid last Wednesday in several parts of Trinidad including Westmoorings, Ariapita Avenue and Curepe. Eighteen suspects, including several Asian men, were detained.

"We thank the Government of Trinidad and Tobago for ensuring the human rights of adolescents and allowing them to communicate with their families and/or lawyers," Valero wrote last week. He said that about 19 "presumably Venezuelan adolescents" were rescued from a sex ring in TT.

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby De Dragon » February 13th, 2019, 12:47 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:https://newsday.co.tt/2019/02/11/we-reject-rowley/

REJECTED!

This was the view of Deputy to the Venezuelan National Assembly Carlos Enrique Valero who yesterday took to his twitter account,
@CarlosValero08, to condemn and outright reject Prime Minister Dr Rowley and the TT government for its continued "support" of the Nicolás Maduro government in Venezuela.

Head of the National Assembly Juan Guaidó has declared himself interim President of Venezuela and has the support of the European Union (EU), Canada, the United States and several other major world nations. Maduro has the support of Russia and China and more importantly, the Venezuelan military.

Valero first issued a release to the Trinidad and Tobago public last week, thanking the government and police for the rescue of 19 Spanish-speaking girls during a sex raid last Wednesday in several parts of Trinidad including Westmoorings, Ariapita Avenue and Curepe. Eighteen suspects, including several Asian men, were detained.

"We thank the Government of Trinidad and Tobago for ensuring the human rights of adolescents and allowing them to communicate with their families and/or lawyers," Valero wrote last week. He said that about 19 "presumably Venezuelan adolescents" were rescued from a sex ring in TT.

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby Numb3r4 » February 13th, 2019, 6:58 pm

Ah quick question, 'yuh tink' we could still get some 'ah dat dragon gyas'?

Maybe Moses should ask.

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Postby The_Honourable » February 13th, 2019, 10:53 pm

Numb3r4 wrote:Ah quick question, 'yuh tink' we could still get some 'ah dat dragon gyas'?

Maybe Moses should ask.


Here are the possibilities. If Maduro is there:

No chance because the vene state company PDVSA is cash strapped and Shell, who has to build the pipeline don't want to get tie up in the middle of US sanctions and geopolitics.

If Guaido get thru:

1. Not in the current arrangement meaning re-negotiation especially if it was a disadvantage to Venezuela.

2. Deal rejected and not revisiting that anytime soon. Essentially, Venez saying haul yuh count cause allyuh PM was playing neutral but defending dictator Maduro.

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby shogun » February 14th, 2019, 12:09 am

It's so strange to watch Trini's almost revelling in the fact that a deal made by the government of this country, fell through? Especially when this country would have probably been the beneficiary of such a deal? Strange times we're living in.


shake d livin wake d dead wrote:https://newsday.co.tt/2019/02/11/we-reject-rowley/

REJECTED!

This was the view of Deputy to the Venezuelan National Assembly Carlos Enrique Valero who yesterday took to his twitter account,
@CarlosValero08, to condemn and outright reject Prime Minister Dr Rowley and the TT government for its continued "support" of the Nicolás Maduro government in Venezuela.

Head of the National Assembly Juan Guaidó has declared himself interim President of Venezuela and has the support of the European Union (EU), Canada, the United States and several other major world nations. Maduro has the support of Russia and China and more importantly, the Venezuelan military.

Valero first issued a release to the Trinidad and Tobago public last week, thanking the government and police for the rescue of 19 Spanish-speaking girls during a sex raid last Wednesday in several parts of Trinidad including Westmoorings, Ariapita Avenue and Curepe. Eighteen suspects, including several Asian men, were detained.

"We thank the Government of Trinidad and Tobago for ensuring the human rights of adolescents and allowing them to communicate with their families and/or lawyers," Valero wrote last week. He said that about 19 "presumably Venezuelan adolescents" were rescued from a sex ring in TT.



Given that Carlos Valero's affiliations were made clear earlier in this ched, what else was he going to say though? :lol:

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby RedVEVO » February 14th, 2019, 1:51 am

Maduro not going anywhere ..

Juan is a loser .

Why ?

Money talks and holds up in an arena .

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby Redman » February 14th, 2019, 7:14 am

shogun wrote:It's so strange to watch Trini's almost revelling in the fact that a deal made by the government of this country, fell through? Especially when this country would have probably been the beneficiary of such a deal? Strange times we're living in.





Given that Carlos Valero's affiliations were made clear earlier in this ched, what else was he going to say though? :lol:


A friend of mine said it well-

There is no Trinidad and Tobago-in all of this, just an abhorrent situation made up of a nation of misguided ego maniacs.

Its been hard to argue with that...given the fanaticism for the respective kool aid drinkers.
In their minds EVERYTHING is subjugated to a political whim.
They happy in the morass of the 5 year cycle of set up/break down.

The NORTH STAND is/was the perfect symbol of this mentality.

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Postby De Dragon » February 14th, 2019, 1:01 pm

Redman wrote:
shogun wrote:It's so strange to watch Trini's almost revelling in the fact that a deal made by the government of this country, fell through? Especially when this country would have probably been the beneficiary of such a deal? Strange times we're living in.





Given that Carlos Valero's affiliations were made clear earlier in this ched, what else was he going to say though? :lol:


A friend of mine said it well-

There is no Trinidad and Tobago-in all of this, just an abhorrent situation made up of a nation of misguided ego maniacs.

Its been hard to argue with that...given the fanaticism for the respective kool aid drinkers.
In their minds EVERYTHING is subjugated to a political whim.
They happy in the morass of the 5 year cycle of set up/break down.

The NORTH STAND is/was the perfect symbol of this mentality.

Awww, you liddle PNM heart hurting because they failed miserably again? :roll: Funny how the same gloating and commentary you and others so freely dispensed, and still do, when the PP was doing their sheit is suddenly unpatriotic? Classic Goebbels Young parroting line for line.
The simple truth is that from Sandals to Dragon gas to anything foreign affairs related, has only resulted in clusterf*cks that are astounding in their depth and breadth. People commenting on said clusterf*cks is their right, and while you may question their motivations, calling sheit ice cream isn't a strong suit of many, including myself, when under the PNM and their inept governance.
*awaits "typical" type comments because you feel you have to respond for the Red and Ready Crew*

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Postby Ben_spanna » February 14th, 2019, 1:10 pm

Neither party that allyuh arguing and defending has this country best intentions at heart... neither of them care about the future of this country... they are both just there to get what they can while the iron is hot and then get out and point fingers at what the other did.....

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby The_Honourable » February 14th, 2019, 7:46 pm

Asymmetrica President & CEO Vanessa Neumann discusses the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela and how President Trump warned disputed Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro to allow aid into the country.



US President Donald Trump says Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro is making a 'terrible mistake' by not allowing aid into the country.



“All options are on the table” regarding Venezuela , say leaders at the meeting of the Organization of American States in Washington, DC.


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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby Numb3r4 » February 14th, 2019, 11:38 pm

Given the players weighing in on this issue, explain what we are really doing?

Do we really expect to negotiate a peace deal.....or is this some protracted damage control thing?
It seems from recent events that our position has been rendered inconsequential now more so than before, worse it may be more to our detriment now.

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby De Dragon » February 15th, 2019, 9:55 pm

Numb3r4 wrote:Given the players weighing in on this issue, explain what we are really doing?

Do we really expect to negotiate a peace deal.....or is this some protracted damage control thing?
It seems from recent events that our position has been rendered inconsequential now more so than before, worse it may be more to our detriment now.

Dotish JUHN Scarfy, and idiotic Moses painted T&T into a corner, and are now trying to play statesmen, despite no one wanting their input, to broker, what is surely a deal (Dragon) in severe jeopardy. Everyone but these nitwits and their PNM herd seems to realize it, yet they won't shut up, and keep antagonizing Guiado, the US and now a bag of EU countries.

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby Numb3r4 » February 16th, 2019, 8:51 pm

At this point shouldn't we just give up on the Dragon Deal?

or are we just looking for some kind of PR victory to carry us into the election?

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby De Dragon » February 16th, 2019, 9:50 pm

Numb3r4 wrote:At this point shouldn't we just give up on the Dragon Deal?

or are we just looking for some kind of PR victory to carry us into the election?

Maybe the Venezuelans who fled and ended up here, will be allowed t vote here in 2020? :roll:

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby bOOsTmaN » February 18th, 2019, 10:15 am

Redman wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:Um teems and I are talking about the central bank thing

And that this move by the us has nothing to do with democracy, humanitarian concerns, or the Venezuelan people.

That's all

Thanks for your permission to reply :roll:
Love how when you're challenged on your sheit talk you revert invariably to your "talk done" "that is all" stance :lol:


no not' talk done'- more like thats all i thought we discussing
I know very well you eh taking a talk done post quietly.

This is just a discussion - and whatever will happen-will not have to be within the limits or right and wrong,legal or illegal and in this context in the promotion of democracy or humanitarian rights.

This is plain overt resource grab cuz they can.

The precedents being set (or reset in the western hemisphere) are really my concern




If you think the Us going to "save" the venezuelan ppl from maduro. Call the agri shop and order a bottle of something to send you home. Of Course its OIL they going to claim. Illegally and China and Russia knows their gameplay. This time is different cuz both countries have billion dollar deals in venezuela. So... they will go to war. its just when.

Buy candle, canned foods and water. Bless

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby teems1 » February 18th, 2019, 11:20 am

Redman wrote:
shogun wrote:It's so strange to watch Trini's almost revelling in the fact that a deal made by the government of this country, fell through? Especially when this country would have probably been the beneficiary of such a deal? Strange times we're living in.





Given that Carlos Valero's affiliations were made clear earlier in this ched, what else was he going to say though? :lol:


A friend of mine said it well-

There is no Trinidad and Tobago-in all of this, just an abhorrent situation made up of a nation of misguided ego maniacs.

Its been hard to argue with that...given the fanaticism for the respective kool aid drinkers.
In their minds EVERYTHING is subjugated to a political whim.
They happy in the morass of the 5 year cycle of set up/break down.

The NORTH STAND is/was the perfect symbol of this mentality.


Any deal with Venezuela was always going to be on shaky ground. Now when it falls through you're surprised?

That's like investing in a CCC+ fund and losing your investment, then you're surprised?

You maybe should have gone with the AAA+ fund which would have had lower returns, but safer in the long run.

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Re: Breaking News: Venezuela 2019 new President Juan Guaido to be sworn in

Postby The_Honourable » February 22nd, 2019, 1:48 pm

Violence breaks out on Venezuela border with Brazil

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Venezuelan soldiers opened fire on a group of civilians attempting to keep open a segment of the southern border with Brazil for deliveries of humanitarian aid, causing multiple injuries and the first fatalities of a massive opposition operation meant to deliver international relief to this devastated South American country, according to eyewitnesses and community leaders.

At 6:30 a.m. on Friday, a military convoy approached a checkpoint set up by an indigenous community in the southern village of Kumarakapay, on the main artery linking Venezuela to Brazil. Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro on Thursday ordered the closure of Venezuela’s border with Brazil.

When the volunteers sought to block the military vehicles by standing in front of them, soldiers began firing assault rifles. At least two people were killed and a dozen wounded, at least three of them seriously. The dead were named as a woman, Zorayda Rodriguez, 42, and a man, Rolando Garcia.

The Trump administration, which opposes Maduro, promptly denounced the shooting. “The United States condemns the killings, attacks, and the hundreds of arbitrary detentions that have taken place in Venezuela,” a State Department spokesman said. “We stand with the victims’ families in demanding justice and accountability.” (Vice President Pence, who is one of the administration’s most forceful Maduro critics, is scheduled to be in Colombia on Monday for a scheduled meeting of the Lima Group — a consortium of Latin American countries, plus Canada, that have called for Maduro’s ouster.)

In tweets, opposition leader Juan Guaidó — who was en route to the Colombian border — said: “In the community of Kumarakapay, 2 soldiers shot against Pemones that were at a checkpoint. The result of this crime is 12 people wounded and one dead. Our solidarity is with them. It will not go unpunished.”

Source: http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/vio ... der-brazil

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