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K_J_R wrote:it was an additive locally until petrotron shutdown. they used it in MTBE in premium gas.
Engineering explained had it a while ago, e85 is good high octane fuel.. however to get the same power output as gasoline, you have to use significantly more e8588sins wrote:Big savings usually eventually equate to big money to be made, but the question is who gets the savings and who makes the money.
Somewhere I read a study on the pros and cons of ethanol and methanol in internal combustion engines, with testing done with fuels containing different levls of ethanol, methanol and gasoline, from 10% ethanol or methanol added, all the way up to 85%.
Their findings were that up to a certain point about 10%, adding methanol or ethanol to fuel is fine, while higher mixtures tend to increase wear on pistons and cylinder walls with less carbon buildup as the percentage added is increased. No decrease in engine performance or mpg rates or emissions was noted at lower level mixtures, and higher mixtures had lower emissions.
nuttn wrong with using it as a fuel additive, as long as it's a consistent mix. but either way the 5% they talking about I don't think would be a bad idea.
I seriously doubt it go send the price at the pump down if it becomes available. Government will save a half cent on the dollar and Joe Public still gonna have his nutz in the vise
infinite_RPM wrote:Engineering explained had it a while ago, e85 is good high octane fuel.. however to get the same power output as gasoline, you have to use significantly more e8588sins wrote:Big savings usually eventually equate to big money to be made, but the question is who gets the savings and who makes the money.
Somewhere I read a study on the pros and cons of ethanol and methanol in internal combustion engines, with testing done with fuels containing different levls of ethanol, methanol and gasoline, from 10% ethanol or methanol added, all the way up to 85%.
Their findings were that up to a certain point about 10%, adding methanol or ethanol to fuel is fine, while higher mixtures tend to increase wear on pistons and cylinder walls with less carbon buildup as the percentage added is increased. No decrease in engine performance or mpg rates or emissions was noted at lower level mixtures, and higher mixtures had lower emissions.
nuttn wrong with using it as a fuel additive, as long as it's a consistent mix. but either way the 5% they talking about I don't think would be a bad idea.
I seriously doubt it go send the price at the pump down if it becomes available. Government will save a half cent on the dollar and Joe Public still gonna have his nutz in the vise
nervewrecker wrote:But the wm kit injects it after all the seals etc. Read that meth is corrosive to fuel lines etc hence the system having its own lines.
E85, widely used as fuel burns faster than traditional gasoline but its cheaper. Almost half the price and half the mileage per gallon. Comes up about the same but you can make more power with e85, its resistant to knock better than gasoline, runs cooler and cleans as it does so.
I say bring the damn corn fuel.
Ethanol can also be produced from natural gas.kamakazi wrote:Just reminding people...Methanol is not Ethanol
One requires natural gas to make the other is processed from corn/wheat/sugarcane
You are correct.adnj wrote:Ethanol can also be produced from natural gas.kamakazi wrote:Just reminding people...Methanol is not Ethanol
One requires natural gas to make the other is processed from corn/wheat/sugarcane
88sins wrote:nervewrecker wrote:But the wm kit injects it after all the seals etc. Read that meth is corrosive to fuel lines etc hence the system having its own lines.
E85, widely used as fuel burns faster than traditional gasoline but its cheaper. Almost half the price and half the mileage per gallon. Comes up about the same but you can make more power with e85, its resistant to knock better than gasoline, runs cooler and cleans as it does so.
I say bring the damn corn fuel.
the push to get ppl to run cng failed miserably, but ppl would come to terms with ethanol laced fuel easily enough if it's substantially cheaper at the pump. Problem is that to get it cheaper at the pump, the ratio of E:G gonna have to be high, & most trinis eh know or want to know nuttn about ethanol as a fuel.
I could hear the taxi drivers cussin now
TurboSingh12 wrote:I using methanol years now as an additive
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