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PEP Policy Discussion

Postby reboot2020 » February 20th, 2019, 5:02 pm

A full manifesto is still pending launch but interested to hear what tuners think about the policy ideas put forward by the PEP so far. Pros, cons, suggestions, criticisms welcome. Policies listed below :

https://peptt.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/PoliciesAtAGlance.pdf

1. HOME OWNERSHIP FOR ALL
Zero deposit, zero interest for 30 years for first time home owners for up to $1.5 million, allowing even minimum wage earners to own a home.

2. NATIONAL SECURITY
Establish radar connected security platforms three miles out at sea to create a virtual wall around T&T, manned by law enforcement professionals and equipped with fast attack boats and interceptor helicopter gunships that would enforce “stop and search” for all marine craft entering our waters. This will bring an end to the illegal trades in guns, drugs and human cargo.

3. FIRST WORLD LAW ENFORCEMENT
Engage the services of foreign law enforcement internal affairs and investigation teams to clean up the police service of corruption and criminal activity. Establish continuous training & assessment inclusive of mandatory drug and polygraph testing. Incentivise law enforcement through bonuses and rewards for exemplary service. Establish promotion policy based on merit and instructed by knowledge and skill
development as well as unblemished records.

4. FROM CRIMINALS TO CONTRIBUTING CITIZENS
Those who run afoul of the law and end up in jail would be given the tools to return to society better equipped than when they entered. Mandatory literacy, therapeutic counselling and conflict resolution skills, together with opportunities to learn trades and even attain university degrees would be offered
to encourage personal development, and provide hope and opportunity away from a life of crime.

5. FIRST WORLD HEALTH CARE
Build and operate 41 constituency healthcare facilities complete with accident and emergency/minor surgery services that would put healthcare within easy reach of all citizens, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. Deploy professionally trained, call centre-controlled paramedic ambulance service to fire-stations, health centres and/or police stations to allow for emergency responses in under 10 minutes nationwide. Monitor fleet via GPS.

6. PRESTIGE EDUCATION FOR ALL
Abolish the abusive SEA. Make ALL schools 10-year zoned schools. Establish a Grade Point Average
(GPA) system that monitors the performance of students, teachers and principals simultaneously. Create
Constituency Education Board of Supervisors.

7. HIGHER EDUCATION & SKILLS TRAINING
Make education finance available that can be repaid either as loans or through public service in disciplines
deemed essential to national development. Establish assessment facilitates for skills and trades certification.
Develop a national trades and skills masterplan to guide career choices.

8. FOOD INDEPENDENCE
Set food targets based on national consumption data. Make farmland available rent free to small farmers.
Set crop schedules; purchase harvests and distribute produce through 41 constituency wholesale and retail
markets.

9. TOBAGO & TRINIDAD
Until an actual bridge is built, we must work to ensure that all goods and services that are available in Trinidad are also available in Tobago at the same prices, and that movement between both islands is uncomplicated and affordable. Establish within the sister isle opportunities for further education in tourism and agriculture; and create credit facilities that support the development of these and other industries.

10. ALTERNATIVE RENEWABLE ENERGY
Develop alternatives to oil and gas. Encourage wind farms, solar arrays and tidal generators use to
provide cheap, abundant and clean energy for all.

11. CLEAN, RELIABLE PIPE-BORNE WATER FOR ALL
Decentralise water management and distribution to ALL 41 constituencies through the establishment of
constituency-owned and operated water purification and distribution plants, responsible for sourcing their
own supply through bulk transmission, wells, rainwater retention dams & ponds or desalination. This plan would quickly allow ALL citizens to benefit from a reliable clean source of water 24/7.

12. A WAR ON POVERTY
Make universal home ownership a reality and job creation a top priority. Encourage foreign direct
investment in labour intensive business partnerships. Set medium-term national ‘jobs-for-all’ masterplan that leaves no citizen behind. Establish ‘living wage’ policy to guide minimum wage.

13. REGULATE THE FINANCIAL SECTOR
Interest to be paid on depositors’ funds at rates set by Central Bank. Abolish ALL banking fees
not compliant with terms of banking license. Open the banking sector to international competition. Cap the
spread on foreign exchange. The difference between the prices for buying and selling foreign exchange
(the spread) puts an unnecessary 10-13% tax on the economy. Capping it to under 3% would save billions of
dollars lost to artificial inflation and profiteering.

14. FROM EMPLOYEE TO EMPLOYER
Start-up support for small businesses with demonstrated potential for success. Operational credit
to assist with recurring expenses of rent, electricity and raw materials for approved projects; monitored
by dedicated case officers; and designed to achieve profitability in quick time.

15. PUBLIC OFFICE REFORM
Make all public office holders accountable. Enact recall and termination legislation for instances of nonperformance and misconduct in public affairs.

16. ELECTORAL REFORM
Cap election spending that disqualifies candidates for breaches. Enact equal opportunity media law. Remove
the $5000 deposit currently required to contest an election. Candidates must reside within the constituency they hope to contest.

17. AN END TO CORRUPTION
Shut down all special purpose companies and establish robust and transparent tenders’ processes that
disconnects purchase decisions and contractual awards away from the political directorate. Sell non-essential State companies.

18. NO MORE MEGA CONTRACTORS
Decentralise all public developmental and maintenance works to constituencies, with all contractors
and employees having to reside within the constituency where projects are located.

19. DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA
Medicinal marijuana is now the number one cash crop in California and other jurisdictions. Grown for export
to the global pharmaceutical industry could create massive revenue streams and much needed jobs. Regulated and controlled the way tobacco and alcohol are, would allow for much needed protections and controls, and remove the criminal underworld from the equation.

20. NATIONAL PLASTIC BOTTLE POLICY
Apply tax to plastic bottles at manufacture or importation stage. Redeem tax for return of discarded
bottles so as to encourage environmental cleanup, provide a ready stock of material for road-building and
construction industries, and generate revenue for those least employable and most in need.

21. FIRST WORLD DEVELOPMENT
Establish ‘new city’ within easy access from all corners of T&T for offices of State currently based in Port
of Spain. Implement online and ATM payments wherever possible for ease of payment and decentralisation of transactions. Properly done, this would end the hours lost to traffic faced by State employees twice daily, and put essential service within easy reach of all.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby D Diesel Report » February 20th, 2019, 5:59 pm

reboot2020 wrote:A full manifesto is still pending launch but interested to hear what tuners think about the policy ideas put forward by the PEP so far. Pros, cons, suggestions, criticisms welcome. Policies listed below :

https://peptt.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/PoliciesAtAGlance.pdf

1. HOME OWNERSHIP FOR ALL
Zero deposit, zero interest for 30 years for first time home owners for up to $1.5 million, allowing even minimum wage earners to own a home.

2. NATIONAL SECURITY
Establish radar connected security platforms three miles out at sea to create a virtual wall around T&T, manned by law enforcement professionals and equipped with fast attack boats and interceptor helicopter gunships that would enforce “stop and search” for all marine craft entering our waters. This will bring an end to the illegal trades in guns, drugs and human cargo.

3. FIRST WORLD LAW ENFORCEMENT
Engage the services of foreign law enforcement internal affairs and investigation teams to clean up the police service of corruption and criminal activity. Establish continuous training & assessment inclusive of mandatory drug and polygraph testing. Incentivise law enforcement through bonuses and rewards for exemplary service. Establish promotion policy based on merit and instructed by knowledge and skill
development as well as unblemished records.

4. FROM CRIMINALS TO CONTRIBUTING CITIZENS
Those who run afoul of the law and end up in jail would be given the tools to return to society better equipped than when they entered. Mandatory literacy, therapeutic counselling and conflict resolution skills, together with opportunities to learn trades and even attain university degrees would be offered
to encourage personal development, and provide hope and opportunity away from a life of crime.

5. FIRST WORLD HEALTH CARE
Build and operate 41 constituency healthcare facilities complete with accident and emergency/minor surgery services that would put healthcare within easy reach of all citizens, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. Deploy professionally trained, call centre-controlled paramedic ambulance service to fire-stations, health centres and/or police stations to allow for emergency responses in under 10 minutes nationwide. Monitor fleet via GPS.

6. PRESTIGE EDUCATION FOR ALL
Abolish the abusive SEA. Make ALL schools 10-year zoned schools. Establish a Grade Point Average
(GPA) system that monitors the performance of students, teachers and principals simultaneously. Create
Constituency Education Board of Supervisors.

7. HIGHER EDUCATION & SKILLS TRAINING
Make education finance available that can be repaid either as loans or through public service in disciplines
deemed essential to national development. Establish assessment facilitates for skills and trades certification.
Develop a national trades and skills masterplan to guide career choices.

8. FOOD INDEPENDENCE
Set food targets based on national consumption data. Make farmland available rent free to small farmers.
Set crop schedules; purchase harvests and distribute produce through 41 constituency wholesale and retail
markets.

9. TOBAGO & TRINIDAD
Until an actual bridge is built, we must work to ensure that all goods and services that are available in Trinidad are also available in Tobago at the same prices, and that movement between both islands is uncomplicated and affordable. Establish within the sister isle opportunities for further education in tourism and agriculture; and create credit facilities that support the development of these and other industries.

10. ALTERNATIVE RENEWABLE ENERGY
Develop alternatives to oil and gas. Encourage wind farms, solar arrays and tidal generators use to
provide cheap, abundant and clean energy for all.

11. CLEAN, RELIABLE PIPE-BORNE WATER FOR ALL
Decentralise water management and distribution to ALL 41 constituencies through the establishment of
constituency-owned and operated water purification and distribution plants, responsible for sourcing their
own supply through bulk transmission, wells, rainwater retention dams & ponds or desalination. This plan would quickly allow ALL citizens to benefit from a reliable clean source of water 24/7.

12. A WAR ON POVERTY
Make universal home ownership a reality and job creation a top priority. Encourage foreign direct
investment in labour intensive business partnerships. Set medium-term national ‘jobs-for-all’ masterplan that leaves no citizen behind. Establish ‘living wage’ policy to guide minimum wage.

13. REGULATE THE FINANCIAL SECTOR
Interest to be paid on depositors’ funds at rates set by Central Bank. Abolish ALL banking fees
not compliant with terms of banking license. Open the banking sector to international competition. Cap the
spread on foreign exchange. The difference between the prices for buying and selling foreign exchange
(the spread) puts an unnecessary 10-13% tax on the economy. Capping it to under 3% would save billions of
dollars lost to artificial inflation and profiteering.

14. FROM EMPLOYEE TO EMPLOYER
Start-up support for small businesses with demonstrated potential for success. Operational credit
to assist with recurring expenses of rent, electricity and raw materials for approved projects; monitored
by dedicated case officers; and designed to achieve profitability in quick time.

15. PUBLIC OFFICE REFORM
Make all public office holders accountable. Enact recall and termination legislation for instances of nonperformance and misconduct in public affairs.

16. ELECTORAL REFORM
Cap election spending that disqualifies candidates for breaches. Enact equal opportunity media law. Remove
the $5000 deposit currently required to contest an election. Candidates must reside within the constituency they hope to contest.

17. AN END TO CORRUPTION
Shut down all special purpose companies and establish robust and transparent tenders’ processes that
disconnects purchase decisions and contractual awards away from the political directorate. Sell non-essential State companies.

18. NO MORE MEGA CONTRACTORS
Decentralise all public developmental and maintenance works to constituencies, with all contractors
and employees having to reside within the constituency where projects are located.

19. DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA
Medicinal marijuana is now the number one cash crop in California and other jurisdictions. Grown for export
to the global pharmaceutical industry could create massive revenue streams and much needed jobs. Regulated and controlled the way tobacco and alcohol are, would allow for much needed protections and controls, and remove the criminal underworld from the equation.

20. NATIONAL PLASTIC BOTTLE POLICY
Apply tax to plastic bottles at manufacture or importation stage. Redeem tax for return of discarded
bottles so as to encourage environmental cleanup, provide a ready stock of material for road-building and
construction industries, and generate revenue for those least employable and most in need.

21. FIRST WORLD DEVELOPMENT
Establish ‘new city’ within easy access from all corners of T&T for offices of State currently based in Port
of Spain. Implement online and ATM payments wherever possible for ease of payment and decentralisation of transactions. Properly done, this would end the hours lost to traffic faced by State employees twice daily, and put essential service within easy reach of all.


Dis doh matter. Dem could have the best policy since slice bread, its either PNM or (Enter major indian party here) we voting.
We 'custom and we like to suffer. What else go be our excuse for being crappy people if we doh have somebody to blame, eh? :drinking: :drinking:

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby matr1x » February 20th, 2019, 6:00 pm

Pipe dreams.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby Redman » February 20th, 2019, 6:01 pm

Wake me up when they do their budget and its a realistic analysis of the cost of 1-21.

And then having the budget....how they funding said budget.

Until then anyone can make policy saying anything

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » February 20th, 2019, 6:05 pm

Who financing them in such a way that they will win an election??

If Gary G cannot get some officers to take a poly what makes you think PEP will change it...

Anyways back to reality, is either red or yellow(Indo Trini or ni$$@)...say it how u feel

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby D Diesel Report » February 20th, 2019, 6:08 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Who financing them in such a way that they will win an election??

If Gary G cannot get some officers to take a poly what makes you think PEP will change it...

Anyways back to reality, is either red or yellow(Indo Trini or ni$$@)...say it how u feel


I fine indo trini, never mind dey does thief, does run thing goodish.
I fine the other does thief and run ting to the ground.
unfortunate, but is culture. It hard to break outta dat.

If you do, you should get a medal. But i guess de medal is a good life and out of the victim race. :drinking: :drinking:

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby FordeG » February 20th, 2019, 6:13 pm

This is totally totally unrealistic and laughable.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby ProtonPowder » February 20th, 2019, 6:44 pm

1.5m 0% interest 30 year loans
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
This is a perfect way to ensure that construction costs in TnT shoot up to 3000/sf for a basic home immediately.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby FordeG » February 20th, 2019, 6:53 pm

ProtonPowder wrote:1.5m 0% interest 30 year loans
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
This is a perfect way to ensure that construction costs in TnT shoot up to 3000/sf for a basic home immediately.


I agree and having that as they're first point shows how unprepared and stupid PEP is.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby reboot2020 » February 20th, 2019, 7:14 pm

So beyond the housing policy any opinions on the other 20 items?

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby j.o.e » February 20th, 2019, 7:38 pm

Why are there no other great minds around PEA? Economists, civil engineers etc? It’s easy to say nice things but every policy needs to be properly thought out and repercussions weighed.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby ProtonPowder » February 20th, 2019, 7:50 pm

j.o.e wrote:Why are there no other great minds around PEA? Economists, civil engineers etc? It’s easy to say nice things but every policy needs to be properly thought out and repercussions weighed.

Funny you mention civil engineers because a fresh faced one 3 years out of uwi is in his inner circle. But as I always say, politics makes smart people go stupid. He stringing them along on these dreams that are almost all absolutely unattainable. And in addition to that, save for a few bullet points, all his points would make a professional within a certain field hopping mad.

21. FIRST WORLD DEVELOPMENT
Establish ‘new city’ within easy access from all corners of T&T for offices of State currently based in Port
of Spain. Implement online and ATM payments wherever possible for ease of payment and decentralisation of transactions. Properly done, this would end the hours lost to traffic faced by State employees twice daily, and put essential service within easy reach of all.


This is what you call government centralisation in the geographic and the literal geographic sense. This is an idea that has been argued against by planners for decades. Plus, to be a little pedantic. You know where the geographic centre of this island is? Is somewhere around tabaquite/flanagin town. And this backside want to create an administrative capital there. We go fleck up worse than south africa and its 3 capital cities.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby shogun » February 20th, 2019, 7:52 pm

Manifestos mean nothing anyways. Basically a sweet-smelling empty-promise list, that the public will only figure out AFTER said party has been elected to office. Of course by then it's way too late. That list is especially naive though. lol

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Postby The_Honourable » February 20th, 2019, 8:01 pm

Those policies sounds good as the policies of the PNM, UNC and other parties that went by. The problem is that once in power, most of those objectives are never met. We all know what it takes to fix most of our issues but there is no implementation to get it done.

As mentioned above, we still vote for the most part by race. Can PEP swing the afro-trini vote? Once PNM remove Rowley as political leader, most afro trinis going back yuh know… same thing with the UNC. Once they remove Kamla, most indo trinis going back.

You want to swing areas like Laventille, Beetham, Sea Lots, etc? Let Phillip take out ads on newspapers and go in these areas stating to all the HDC owners and squatters that they will get their property free and be awarded deeds. You will see ting.

You made no mention of white collar criminals and what you plan to do to implementing this. What about the financiers and importers of the narcotics? Or Big Fish as they say? Once you go after and jail them, the small fry will take you serious.

What about campaign finance reform? Take front and publish yours to the public. People will ask PNM and UNC to do the same.

No mention of Local Government reform? We beat that to the ground here on tuner.

What about Constitutional Reform? The office of the President need some work to do. Walking around giving nice speech and the office being a rubber stamp while collecting a salary not cutting it. Move the AG office from the PM to the President since the AG Office suppose to be impartial.

You should have an environmental policy as a main with the bottle policy as part of it. Land use policy?

First world Development - Example, decentralize and build Government Campuses so we don't have to go POS whole time and paying rent. Point Fortin and Chaguanas developed to be new cities?

About Healthcare, have a National Patient Information System. If my file in Sando General but i end up Mt Hope because of an accident or i can get a surgery done faster, docs there can access my file and just add to it.

Rowley dirty the word "Decriminalize" for Marijuana. Marijuana Legalization and Investment sounds better.

Tobago? If oil and gas get discovered in the area, the THA get the proceeds instead of begging us for money every budget? Reopen property investment for foreigners?

Zero Interest and Zero Deposit? THAT is madness. Pay your 5 - 10% deposit at zero Interest for the first year and it increases to the negotiated interest rate over the 25 - 30 year period.

You need to headline the policies more to attract. "Property Deeds in Poverty stricken areas"? "Tobago to get 100% proceeds of oil and gas"? "Jail Big Fish"? "Legalize Marijuana"?

It have REEEAAALLLLL material out there you can use to build a better manifesto.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby sMASH » February 20th, 2019, 8:38 pm

the last two are UTTER failures. i willing to try somebody new. and given the rowley administration, the only ting worse is if they literally withdraw the treasury and fly out.
i mean, the only good thing out of PNM is GG, and PP did him first. is not even thier wifi buses on the road .... wifi buses... plenty green band have that years now...


50% of what they say they want to do is 200% better than what the incumbents have PROVEN they could do.

allyuh rationale for not voting them is literally because other people will vote pnm/unc.... imagine if the other people vote to jump off a cliff... allyuh will vote date too


all that apart, i still a bit undecided... i have a strong want to know, if JHUN win back the next term, if he will still blame the last admin for his woes....

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby maj. tom » February 20th, 2019, 8:44 pm

Lol allyuh thought Trinidad was corrupt before? PEP will be (UNC + PNM) x Calder Hart to the exponential power of Ish and Steve. Divided by zero.

The manifesto alone is a set of Super Mario land pipedreams like if they living in a different country from the rest of us. They want TT to become Singapore overnight with that stack of impossible lies.

It always easy to sell promises, but when you get there you realize just how impossible the real job of managing things are. Plenty people in the public service work really hard and productively, yet they cannot control all the bad apples that make the public service what it really is. The endless politics of favors and promises... Wait and see how real life is from empty Facebook posts of infertile dreams and rage.
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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby rspann » February 20th, 2019, 8:47 pm

He could promise a couple of millions for everybody while he's say it to sweeten the pot. It's all impossible and impractical anyway.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » February 20th, 2019, 8:50 pm

Let us see how they perform for locals...might not even get back the deposit

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby Dizzy28 » February 20th, 2019, 8:54 pm

FordeG wrote:This is totally totally unrealistic and laughable.
D Diesel Report wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Who financing them in such a way that they will win an election??

If Gary G cannot get some officers to take a poly what makes you think PEP will change it...

Anyways back to reality, is either red or yellow(Indo Trini or ni$$@)...say it how u feel


I fine indo trini, never mind dey does thief, does run thing goodish.
I fine the other does thief and run ting to the ground.
unfortunate, but is culture. It hard to break outta dat.

If you do, you should get a medal. But i guess de medal is a good life and out of the victim race. :drinking: :drinking:
No worse than the snake oil claims ketchup and mustard been peddling in thier manifestos over the past 30 years

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby rspann » February 20th, 2019, 8:59 pm

FordeG wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:1.5m 0% interest 30 year loans
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
This is a perfect way to ensure that construction costs in TnT shoot up to 3000/sf for a basic home immediately.


I agree and having that as they're first point shows how unprepared and stupid PEP is.


It's like using "they're" in place of "their".

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby rspann » February 20th, 2019, 9:00 pm

Ketchup and mustard, and now PEPper.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby paid_influencer » February 20th, 2019, 9:06 pm

the list in the OP is a bunch of directives.

policy would be a common thread between those directives.

here's one of the policies i see in the OP - there is emphasis on private citizens accessing debt to advance themselves.

i do not like the policies, tbh

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby VexXx Dogg » February 20th, 2019, 9:28 pm

Real talk?
Those are la-la-land dreams that require not just insane amounts of funding (where the money coming from?), but also cultural change and fundamentally changing the mindset of the populace.

Now that you've said WHAT you want to accomplish (those aren't policies, per se), I'm interested in the HOW.

Now I'm sure I'm going to be labelled an anti-PEP UNC/PNM apologist - so lemme take front: firetruck them all.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby j.o.e » February 20th, 2019, 9:44 pm

ProtonPowder wrote:
j.o.e wrote:Why are there no other great minds around PEA? Economists, civil engineers etc? It’s easy to say nice things but every policy needs to be properly thought out and repercussions weighed.

Funny you mention civil engineers because a fresh faced one 3 years out of uwi is in his inner circle. But as I always say, politics makes smart people go stupid. He stringing them along on these dreams that are almost all absolutely unattainable. And in addition to that, save for a few bullet points, all his points would make a professional within a certain field hopping mad.

21. FIRST WORLD DEVELOPMENT
Establish ‘new city’ within easy access from all corners of T&T for offices of State currently based in Port
of Spain. Implement online and ATM payments wherever possible for ease of payment and decentralisation of transactions. Properly done, this would end the hours lost to traffic faced by State employees twice daily, and put essential service within easy reach of all.


This is what you call government centralisation in the geographic and the literal geographic sense. This is an idea that has been argued against by planners for decades. Plus, to be a little pedantic. You know where the geographic centre of this island is? Is somewhere around tabaquite/flanagin town. And this backside want to create an administrative capital there. We go fleck up worse than south africa and its 3 capital cities.


Yea. It’s illogical his whole idea of one city that we all gonna be ‘close’ to. I suspect that the minds around him can’t challenge his views and that’s why he’ll probably have weak ppl around him. He pretty much cussed anyone who even questions him.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby paid_influencer » February 20th, 2019, 10:04 pm

the new city idea ent bad. just moving out those services from pos will decrease traffic in pos tremendously.

the new center would be planned development. meaning you'd have a shared oversized car park, designated walking areas, rest areas, etc.

basically like South Park, but for government services.

PNM and UNC should copy that idea imo

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby j.o.e » February 20th, 2019, 10:28 pm

paid_influencer wrote:the new city idea ent bad. just moving out those services from pos will decrease traffic in pos tremendously.

the new center would be planned development. meaning you'd have a shared oversized car park, designated walking areas, rest areas, etc.

basically like South Park, but for government services.

PNM and UNC should copy that idea imo


How does it make sense to say don’t go POS...... let’s all go to a new city to conduct govt business? Isn’t that moving the gridlock to a new location? Not to mention the development of whole new road networks to this new city ? Expenditure will be massive.
I’m not knocking it but I’m trying to understand it.
Where would this new city be ?
Why not use technology to have satellite offices that can conduct more transactions remotely using interconnectivity?

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Postby ProtonPowder » February 20th, 2019, 10:38 pm

Mid friday afternoon, cabinet minister must speak with the PS urgently, then relay his new instructions to his HODs.

woops LOL hadda go TABAQUITE now.

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Postby The_Honourable » February 20th, 2019, 10:40 pm

paid_influencer wrote:the new city idea ent bad. just moving out those services from pos will decrease traffic in pos tremendously.

the new center would be planned development. meaning you'd have a shared oversized car park, designated walking areas, rest areas, etc.

basically like South Park, but for government services.

PNM and UNC should copy that idea imo


Exactly, that's why i proposed some type of Government Campus. I rate the south park idea you give.

Have about 3 campuses - East (Arima), Central (Chaguanas) and South (San Fernando). Point Fortin can be a reserve if surrounding areas develop.

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Re: PEP Policy Discussion

Postby ProtonPowder » February 20th, 2019, 11:05 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:the new city idea ent bad. just moving out those services from pos will decrease traffic in pos tremendously.

the new center would be planned development. meaning you'd have a shared oversized car park, designated walking areas, rest areas, etc.

basically like South Park, but for government services.

PNM and UNC should copy that idea imo


Exactly, that's why i proposed some type of Government Campus. I rate the south park idea you give.

Have about 3 campuses - East (Arima), Central (Chaguanas) and South (San Fernando). Point Fortin can be a reserve if surrounding areas develop.

I could get behind this idea, especially speaking from the San Fernando side. Even members of the general public would love that there might be a BIR, Wardens Office and Valuation Division within walking distance of each other, especially if the property tax actually becomes a thing in the future, as opposed to trekking between Independece Ave to Cipero St to Pointe a Pierre Road.

However the availability of land in these built up areas are incredibly scarce. The government currently rents a massive amount of office space, and if it were to be consolidated and moved to a San Fernando campus, ironically enough there would be no large enough parcel of land in San Fernando's boundaries to house it

Seriously, the only large vacant land left in San Fernando is west of the Solomon Hochoy in Gopaul Lands next to Tagore Ave.

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Postby The_Honourable » February 21st, 2019, 3:30 am

ProtonPowder wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:the new city idea ent bad. just moving out those services from pos will decrease traffic in pos tremendously.

the new center would be planned development. meaning you'd have a shared oversized car park, designated walking areas, rest areas, etc.

basically like South Park, but for government services.

PNM and UNC should copy that idea imo


Exactly, that's why i proposed some type of Government Campus. I rate the south park idea you give.

Have about 3 campuses - East (Arima), Central (Chaguanas) and South (San Fernando). Point Fortin can be a reserve if surrounding areas develop.

I could get behind this idea, especially speaking from the San Fernando side. Even members of the general public would love that there might be a BIR, Wardens Office and Valuation Division within walking distance of each other, especially if the property tax actually becomes a thing in the future, as opposed to trekking between Independece Ave to Cipero St to Pointe a Pierre Road.

However the availability of land in these built up areas are incredibly scarce. The government currently rents a massive amount of office space, and if it were to be consolidated and moved to a San Fernando campus, ironically enough there would be no large enough parcel of land in San Fernando's boundaries to house it

Seriously, the only large vacant land left in San Fernando is west of the Solomon Hochoy in Gopaul Lands next to Tagore Ave.



There is also a reclaimed piece by the wharf behind the bus terminus. Should be part of the waterfront project.

I agree. Tagore Ave is an option and also next to Brian Lara Stadium along the Tarouba Link Road since there is a lot of land space there. It would be easier for people from Debe, Penal and Princes Town to enter and exit. We can only dream.

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