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Re: CAL just bought 12 Boeing 737 Max-8 like the one that crashed in Ethiopia today

Postby hydroep » March 20th, 2019, 4:23 pm

This fella looks like an old Adam Savage...:lol:

But seriously, there's some mature discussion on his channel about the Max series and its probable design flaws. MCAS was allegedly Boeing's cheaper alternative to correcting the instability created by the forward mounted engines, whereas the better (and more expensive option) should have been to redesign the aircraft's tail....:|


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Postby sMASH » March 20th, 2019, 5:09 pm

^^nah dred, this thing more serious with this info.
if was just a software issue, that could be tweaked, tested, and refined then updated on all the planes.

but is not a problem with software. the software was a plaster to compensate an engineering issue.

let me see if i get this properly :
-the plane design is inherently dynamically unstable.
-instead of designing a bigger tail stabilizer that can generate the forces to compensate for the instability, they just used software to aggressively operate the smaller stabilizer.

so, it seems that, just like a car, the instability is like fishtailing, where it keeps pointing the plane up and down to try to correct. but each time it gets worse. as the swings get bigger, the stabilizer has to do more work but it swings the plane the other way too much .
and then the stabilizer it too small so it just cant correct the extremes.

it just doesnt have enough maneuverability. they was counting on the software to watch dog and prevent the swings from going all how in the first place, cause if it gets big, it dont have enough tail stabilizer to swing it back.



if this is the case, then we need to cancel the orders for that model. is either re design the plane to be more stable, or change the tail stabilizers to be more robust. the software can only do so much, and u putting more work on the pilots.

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Re: CAL just bought 12 Boeing 737 Max-8 like the one that crashed in Ethiopia today

Postby paid_influencer » March 20th, 2019, 7:26 pm

everybody turn aeronautical engineer overnight yes.

here's the thing with today's internet.

on one hand, you have the best aircraft company in the world, with billions of dollars in research and development and decades of making this caliber of plane with a second-to-none safety rating.

on the other you have aggregator websites and youtube. You hear the same opinions repeated over and over, from multiple voices. The appears to be 'consensus,' even though most of those voices aren't experts.

the average man will listen to the consensus, which isn't necessarily true or accurate. that is how fake news spreads and why it is so difficult to stop.

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Postby MaxPower » March 20th, 2019, 8:52 pm

^ exactly

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Postby ismithx » March 20th, 2019, 9:26 pm

paid_influencer wrote:everybody turn aeronautical engineer overnight yes.

here's the thing with today's internet.

on one hand, you have the best aircraft company in the world, with billions of dollars in research and development and decades of making this caliber of plane with a second-to-none safety rating.

on the other you have aggregator websites and youtube. You hear the same opinions repeated over and over, from multiple voices. The appears to be 'consensus,' even though most of those voices aren't experts.

the average man will listen to the consensus, which isn't necessarily true or accurate. that is how fake news spreads and why it is so difficult to stop.


Would you trust a massive company to do everything right and dot all the i's and cross all the t's because they care more about people than profit?

After living all this amount of time do you honestly trust people that much?

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Re: CAL just bought 12 Boeing 737 Max-8 like the one that crashed in Ethiopia today

Postby paid_influencer » March 20th, 2019, 9:54 pm

ismithx wrote:Would you trust a massive company to do everything right and dot all the i's and cross all the t's because they care more about people than profit?

After living all this amount of time do you honestly trust people that much?


This is the other part of the equation. The tendency to believe the experts are part of a conspiracy, so you should believe the consensus of voices instead.

It is the same as anti-vaxxers saying don't trust the doctors.

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Postby l33t2 » March 20th, 2019, 10:03 pm

ismithx wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:everybody turn aeronautical engineer overnight yes.

here's the thing with today's internet.

on one hand, you have the best aircraft company in the world, with billions of dollars in research and development and decades of making this caliber of plane with a second-to-none safety rating.

on the other you have aggregator websites and youtube. You hear the same opinions repeated over and over, from multiple voices. The appears to be 'consensus,' even though most of those voices aren't experts.

the average man will listen to the consensus, which isn't necessarily true or accurate. that is how fake news spreads and why it is so difficult to stop.


Would you trust a massive company to do everything right and dot all the i's and cross all the t's because they care more about people than profit?

After living all this amount of time do you honestly trust people that much?


While I can't say that Boeing is guilty here, the aviation industry's bread and butter is making safe reliable planes. If you not doing that, you're screwed. I don't think anything that can risk sacrificing that is worth the extra milions on their bottom line. There is a flaw and if that flaw was ignored by someone in upper management then that should never have happened and they should be reprimanded for that. But if there was something purely unknown, an undiscovered but seriously fatal flaw then it needs to be discovered and fixed immediately. I trust that whatever it is, it will be fixed, a third incident with any Boeing jet will be disastrous for the company

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Postby rspann » March 20th, 2019, 10:25 pm

paid_influencer wrote:everybody turn aeronautical engineer overnight yes.

here's the thing with today's internet.

on one hand, you have the best aircraft company in the world, with billions of dollars in research and development and decades of making this caliber of plane with a second-to-none safety rating.

on the other you have aggregator websites and youtube. You hear the same opinions repeated over and over, from multiple voices. The appears to be 'consensus,' even though most of those voices aren't experts.

the average man will listen to the consensus, which isn't necessarily true or accurate. that is how fake news spreads and why it is so difficult to stop.


The best aircraft company in the world with billions in research but two disastrous crashes back to back, pilots who complained about the problem, authorities all over the world grounding them ,and you still have this opinion?

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Postby sMASH » March 20th, 2019, 11:38 pm

oh, allyuh dont believe big giant companies skimp off on safety in the interest of profits? lol.

yes, the aircraft industry is on a safety and reliability level above all other industries, but they are still driven by profits.
u all know the air bus a380 inst profitable so no more orders taking on that. the profits not profitable enough to sustain it.

allyuh remember the bp oil leak that mess up a good portion of the gulf of mexico a few years ago... all because pb cutting safety corners..


a big company would cut safety corners, and would default for a cheaper option if they think they can save money and still meet the bar.




but even still, the details mentioned in the vid above and the news report before, quite logical, and probable, knowing how competitive the airline industry is right now.

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Re: CAL just bought 12 Boeing 737 Max-8 like the one that crashed in Ethiopia today

Postby ismithx » March 21st, 2019, 6:00 am

paid_influencer wrote:
ismithx wrote:Would you trust a massive company to do everything right and dot all the i's and cross all the t's because they care more about people than profit?

After living all this amount of time do you honestly trust people that much?


This is the other part of the equation. The tendency to believe the experts are part of a conspiracy, so you should believe the consensus of voices instead.

It is the same as anti-vaxxers saying don't trust the doctors.


Ah, but do you know that sometimes even experts are paid or given perks to have a particular opinion? Don't underestimate people greediness.

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Re: CAL just bought 12 Boeing 737 Max-8 like the one that crashed in Ethiopia today

Postby hydroep » June 7th, 2019, 1:19 pm

Plane like it blight yes...


Boeing warns of potential wing faults in some 737 jets
3 June 2019


Boeing has warned airlines about potential flaws on the wings of some 737 aircraft, including on the new-generation 737 Max that was grounded after two crashes.

The company has identified possible faulty parts on more than 300 aircraft worldwide.

The parts, called wing slats, generate extra lift on take-off and landing.

Affected parts may be susceptible to premature failure or cracks, the US aviation regulator said.

The Federal Aviation Administration Authority (FAA) added that the issue arose due to an "improper manufacturing process".

According to the FAA's statement, the defective parts were manufactured by a subcontractor not Boeing.

The president and chief executive of Boeing Commercial Airplanes, Kevin McAllister, said in a statement: "We are committed to supporting our customers in every way possible as they identify and replace these potentially non-conforming tracks."

Boeing chairman and chief executive Dennis Muilenburg told CNBC the company was dealing with the issue "expeditiously", adding: "Certainly it is something we regret, the impact it has had to our customers.

"Any time there is news on the 737, it is something that goes to the top of our list, we're paying close attention to it."

News of the potentially faulty wing parts prompted a 1.6% fall in Boeing's share price at the start of trading, but the stock partially recovered to finish 0.8% down.

The latest issue comes as the planemaker grapples with the consequences of the 737 Max grounding.

The planes were grounded worldwide after a combined 346 people died in two crashes, the first in Indonesia in October followed by one in Ethiopia in March.

That also knocked the reputation of the FAA amid questions over its oversight during the flight certification process of the Max.

Boeing is working on a software fix that will allow the Max to begin flying again, but differences have arisen between the US and Canada on how to train pilots on the software after the update.

Washington believes training on computers or tablets is sufficient for seasoned pilots, but Ottawa wants to require training on flight simulators.

Other regulators around the world are trying to work on a coordinated plan to get the Max back into the skies.


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48503610

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Postby sMASH » June 7th, 2019, 7:25 pm

the mods they did to the 737 to make it into the max version, was to cut production costs. the mods, are not forgiving in poor conditions. it is only safe, if the plane doesnt need to make drastic corrections.

we need to cancel our order.

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Postby maj. tom » June 7th, 2019, 7:31 pm

It's worse than that. They did it to please American Airlines, who is their biggest customer. This is actually a boardroom meeting conspiracy regarding money deals at the cost of a flawed airplane and compromised safety. Rather than Airbus getting the order with their newer narrow-body A320neo. AA would therefore not need to retrain their pilots and just stick with what they knew on the Boeing 737.

Check at 5:00 for this deal. But the entire video is a good watch, as are all Wendover Productions.

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Postby De Dragon » June 7th, 2019, 9:13 pm

Well some PNM Minister/financier/flunky already pocket that bribe money, so they will be here, whatever the facts say to the contrary about their safety.

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Postby rspann » June 7th, 2019, 9:47 pm

Bring plane nah. The government cares about us and they know what they doing.

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Postby sMASH » June 8th, 2019, 7:45 am

Sooo, this is effectively a wetman
maj. tom wrote:It's worse than that. They did it to please American Airlines, who is their biggest customer. This is actually a boardroom meeting conspiracy regarding money deals at the cost of a flawed airplane and compromised safety. Rather than Airbus getting the order with their newer narrow-body A320neo. AA would therefore not need to retrain their pilots and just stick with what they knew on the Boeing 737.

Check at 5:00 for this deal. But the entire video is a good watch, as are all Wendover Productions.

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Re: CAL just bought 12 Boeing 737 Max-8 like the one that crashed in Ethiopia today

Postby MaxPower » June 8th, 2019, 7:48 am

Whats safer?

A 737 max or a Tiida pullin bull?

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Postby rspann » June 8th, 2019, 7:49 am

The difference is that when a wetman shut down, it's not thousands of feet up in the air.

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Postby maj. tom » June 27th, 2019, 6:29 am

Worse and worse for Boeing. They're paying a heavy price in $$ and reputation for trying to take shortcuts in this MAX scheme for AA.

US regulators have uncovered a possible new flaw in Boeing's troubled 737 Max aircraft that is likely to push back test flights.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said it had identified the "potential risk" during simulator tests, but did not reveal details.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48752932

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Postby Zetski » June 28th, 2019, 2:11 am

I see some people mentioning profits.. air travel is very high demand and they do not make huge profits like they intend to.. its rather slim but that is just how it has to be... so they have to begin developing technologies to make air travel cheaper for them to increase that margin (more efficient engines, decrease aerodynamic drag further etc etc)

Boeing trapped themselves.. there is always a trade off

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Postby hydroep » September 12th, 2019, 5:33 am

Imbert: Max 8s will be leased if certified
Carol Matroo

If the Boeing 737 aircraft being leased by government to complement Cariibbean Airlines (CAL) fleet cannot be certified as airworthy, then the money paid upfront will be refunded.

So said acting Prime Minister and Finance Minister Colm Imbert in the Senate, yesterday, during the debate of the Evidence (Amendment) Bill, 2019.

Questioned by Opposition Senator Saddam Hosein about the procurement of the aircraft, Imbert said in December 2018, CAL executed leased agreements with Tous Les Halles for operating leases for a total of 12 Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft to replace current fleet of 737 aircraft which range in age from eight to 20 years.

In March 2019, aviation regulators and airlines around the world grounded all Boeing 737 Max passenger airliners after two Max 8 aircraft crashed, killing the 346 people aboard.

The ban by several countries comes after an Ethiopian Airlines plane crash which resulted in the death of all 157 people on board. The Boeing 737 Max 8 plane was also involved in a fatal Lion Air flight in which 189 passengers were killed. An investigation has been launched into the accidents.

Imbert said subsequent to the two accidents, CAL has been in constant contact with Tous Les Halles and Boeing to be fully apprised of developments and findings as regulatory investigations take place in terms of the status of the agreement to lease Max 8 aircraft.

"This agreement is subject to the leasors providing all approval documentation and certification of airworthiness from the Federal Aviation Administration which has not yet approved. If the aircraft are not certified as airworthy, then CAL will be under no obligation to accept them or pay for them. In the interim, CAL has made arrangements to extend the leases of its current fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft as and when required to ensure the smooth continuity of its flight operation.


https://newsday.co.tt/2019/09/12/imbert-max-8s-will-be-leased-if-certified/

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Postby sMASH » September 12th, 2019, 6:25 am

MaxPower wrote:Whats safer?

A 737 max or a Tiida pullin bull?
the max... no question there.

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Postby teems1 » September 12th, 2019, 9:23 am

MaxPower wrote:Whats safer?

A 737 max or a Tiida pullin bull?


You jest, but the 737 max is statistically safer.

In the months following 9/11 many Americans were afraid to fly and opted to drive instead. The number of road fatalities increased significantly.

After a few months when the fears died down, the road fatality number normalized.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB107999266401462105

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Postby hydroep » December 12th, 2019, 5:19 pm

Imagine what the families of the victims must be thinking after reading this...:|

Boeing: US regulator admits 'mistake' over aircraft crashes


US aviation regulators allowed Boeing's 737 Max aircraft to continue flying despite knowing there was a risk of further crashes.

Analysis after the first crash last year predicted there could be up to 15 disasters over the lifetime of the aircraft without design changes.

Despite this, the Federal Aviation Administration did not ground the Max until a second crash five months later.

FAA chief Steve Dickson, who started in August, said this was a mistake.


The FAA risk assessment was revealed during a US congressional hearing on Wednesday. Lawmakers are investigating Boeing following fatal 737 Max crashes in Indonesia in October 2018, and Ethiopia in March. The disasters killed 346 people in total.

Air safety officials investigating the crashes have identified an automated control system in the 737 Max 8, known as MCAS, as a factor in both accidents.

Boeing has said the system, which relied on a single sensor, received erroneous data, which led it to override pilot commands and push the aircraft downwards.

What went wrong in Boeing's cockpit?

The FAA's investigation of the October Indonesia crash called for Boeing to redesign its system, warning of a risk of more than a dozen crashes over the 45-year lifetime of the roughly 4,800 737 Max planes in service.

Regulators also issued an alert to airlines, but the agency did not ground the aircraft until after the 10 March Ethiopia crash, several days after action by other countries.

"Was a mistake made?" asked Democrat congressman Henry Johnson.

"Obviously the result was not satisfactory," said Mr Dickson. In response to later questions, he admitted the agency had made a mistake at some point in the process.
'Grave concerns'

Boeing is revising the MCAS software, but lawmakers say their investigation has shown that the aircraft manufacturer was aware of flaws in the system.

Boeing staff have also raised concerns that the company was prioritising speed over safety at the factory that produced Max 737s, contributing to the crashes.

Ed Pierson, a former senior manager at the factory, told Congress he repeatedly warned Boeing's leadership of the safety risks caused by what he described as a "factory in chaos", but it had little effect.

He also said that, after the crashes, US government regulators have shown little interest in his concerns.

"I remain gravely concerned that... the flying public will remain at risk unless this unstable production environment is rigorously investigated and closely monitored by regulators on an ongoing basis," he said in prepared testimony.

Mr Dickson said the FAA is probing production issues. He also said he is considering further actions against Boeing.

In a statement, Boeing said Mr Pierson's own account showed the company took his concerns seriously.

"Company executives and senior leaders on the 737 programme were made aware of Mr Pierson's concerns, discussed them in detail, and took appropriate steps to assess them," it said.


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50750746

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Postby maj. tom » December 12th, 2019, 6:18 pm

If after all this, if a single 737-Max ever crashes in the future again, Boeing will be in so much trouble they will have to declare bankruptcy and restructure everything. They should have cancelled the program and cut their losses up front and designed a new plane.

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Postby speedmelter » December 12th, 2019, 11:17 pm

maj. tom wrote:If after all this, if a single 737-Max ever crashes in the future again, Boeing will be in so much trouble they will have to declare bankruptcy and restructure everything. They should have cancelled the program and cut their losses up front and designed a new plane.


They are already in alot of financial trouble due to the crashes.

The 737 max is a good aircraft. Was designed with that one flaw however that flew through all of the holes in the swiss cheese. Redundancy for safety is never an option. The MCAS system should have been standardized to include full levels of redundancy across the board and not compromise safety for the sake of the airlines saving money. The last from the investigation i believe found that the sensors were known to have possible faults iirc which exposed alot between the FAA and the company.. clearly violations occured.

Why havent there been any US crashes? well the US companies tend to regard safety as high priority and would have not skimmed on an option of a few hundred thousand extra for a backup sensor, and they would have had better pilots and policies in place for their pilots to properly acquaint themselves with the flight dynamics of the max vs the old 800's.

Those countries in africa and asia are known for having sub standard ethics as well as poor pilot training and maintenance but in the case of the crashes boeing did not cover their asses well and a simple thing cost them which i mentioned above. that is what the stiffness of competition does.

About cancelling the program and cutting losses, its not so easy, Airbus Neo wouldve gotten all the orders if boeing did not come up with a competing aircraft in time. The aircraft is an excellent aircraft, electronic aided flight augmentation system is nothing new. Issue was with the redundancy not being a standard option and flight acquaintance did not happen globally.

If they had made any adjustments to the airframe and landing system to compensate for the bigger engines etc. in a manner to increase the stall speed etc naturally, the aircraft would have essentially become a different aircraft as it would have gone out of the range of the 737-800 by too far. This means airlines would have had to send pilots on new flight ratings etc.. expensive and inconvenient and airbus wouldve taken them badly. by sticking to the 737 platform, pilots with the type rating of that does not and did not have to go redo anything, simple top up by studying the manuals and changelogs etc.

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Postby Zetski » December 14th, 2019, 5:07 pm

speedmelter wrote:
maj. tom wrote:If after all this, if a single 737-Max ever crashes in the future again, Boeing will be in so much trouble they will have to declare bankruptcy and restructure everything. They should have cancelled the program and cut their losses up front and designed a new plane.


They are already in alot of financial trouble due to the crashes.

The 737 max is a good aircraft. Was designed with that one flaw however that flew through all of the holes in the swiss cheese. Redundancy for safety is never an option. The MCAS system should have been standardized to include full levels of redundancy across the board and not compromise safety for the sake of the airlines saving money. The last from the investigation i believe found that the sensors were known to have possible faults iirc which exposed alot between the FAA and the company.. clearly violations occured.

Why havent there been any US crashes? well the US companies tend to regard safety as high priority and would have not skimmed on an option of a few hundred thousand extra for a backup sensor, and they would have had better pilots and policies in place for their pilots to properly acquaint themselves with the flight dynamics of the max vs the old 800's.

Those countries in africa and asia are known for having sub standard ethics as well as poor pilot training and maintenance but in the case of the crashes boeing did not cover their asses well and a simple thing cost them which i mentioned above. that is what the stiffness of competition does.

About cancelling the program and cutting losses, its not so easy, Airbus Neo wouldve gotten all the orders if boeing did not come up with a competing aircraft in time. The aircraft is an excellent aircraft, electronic aided flight augmentation system is nothing new. Issue was with the redundancy not being a standard option and flight acquaintance did not happen globally.

If they had made any adjustments to the airframe and landing system to compensate for the bigger engines etc. in a manner to increase the stall speed etc naturally, the aircraft would have essentially become a different aircraft as it would have gone out of the range of the 737-800 by too far. This means airlines would have had to send pilots on new flight ratings etc.. expensive and inconvenient and airbus wouldve taken them badly. by sticking to the 737 platform, pilots with the type rating of that does not and did not have to go redo anything, simple top up by studying the manuals and changelogs etc.


Right, and that was what the 737-800 max project wanted to achieve. Getting 300% out of the current design without having to scrap and start over.

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Postby hong kong phooey » December 17th, 2019, 2:02 am

Boeing is halting production of the embattled 737 Max starting in January

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/16/business ... index.html

New York (CNN Business)Boeing plans to suspend production of the 737 Max starting in January as it waits for the embattled plane to be recertified to return to service, the company announced Monday.

The company's stock price closed down more than 4% Monday after early reports that Boeing (BA) might halt the plane's production began to circulate, and then fell another 0.67% after hours following the company's official announcement.
The 737 Max was grounded worldwide in March after two fatal crashes — a Lion Air jet that plunged into the Java Sea in October 2018 and an Ethiopian Airlines plane downed near Addis Ababa in March — killed 346 people. But getting the plane back in the air has proven immensely difficult, causing major financial and reputational issues for Boeing (BA).
Orders for the 737 Max dried up, and it wasn't until last month that Boeing recorded its first new orders — a total of only 30 planes — since the grounding. In the meantime, the company continued to produce the planes as it hoped for a quick recertification by airline regulators around the globe.
Now that process, which has faced a number of setbacks, has been pushed into 2020 and Boeing has an inventory of about 400 of the airplanes in storage. The company said the continued uncertainty of the 737 Max's future forced it to make the drastic move to pause the plane's production and shift its focus to delivering planes it has already produced.
"We believe this decision is least disruptive to maintaining long-term production system and supply chain health," Boeing said in a release Monday.
Boeing did not say how long it expects production to be halted.
Until last week, Boeing was still hoping to get certification for the plane to fly again before the end of this year. But FAA administrator Stephen Dickson said last week there was no chance that certification process could be completed before the end of 2019.
Boeing has been building 42 of the 737 Max jets a month since the grounding, so as not to cause hardship for its suppliers or be forced to lay off workers it will need later. But the company has not been able to deliver the planes.
The company has already said it will take until at least 2021 to deliver all the jets built since the grounding, as airlines cannot logistically or financially accept hundreds of additional planes all at once. Regulators also have to inspect each aircraft, adding to the delay.
For now, Boeing said it doesn't expect to have to lay off or furlough employees. Affected workers will either continue 737-related work or be temporarily assigned to other teams.
The company said it will provide financial information regarding the production suspension in January, when it announces its earnings for the last three months of 2019.
The halt in deliveries since March has been a tremendous cash drain to Boeing, which makes most of its revenue once a plane is delivered. At the same time, though, the halt will actually reduce the company's expenses while deliveries are suspended, although Boeing later will have to pay billions to its airline customers to compensate them for the cost of the grounding.
"Safely returning the 737 Max to service is our top priority,' the company said Monday. "We know that the process of approving the 737 Max's return to service, and of determining appropriate training requirements, must be extraordinarily thorough and robust, to ensure that our regulators, customers, and the flying public have confidence in the 737 Max updates ... We remain fully committed to supporting this process."

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Re: CAL just bought 12 Boeing 737 Max-8 like the one that crashed in Ethiopia today

Postby Redman » December 17th, 2019, 7:07 am

400 planes to sell....that’s some pressure.

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Re: CAL just bought 12 Boeing 737 Max-8 like the one that crashed in Ethiopia today

Postby hydroep » December 17th, 2019, 7:55 am

Penny-wise, pound-foolish...:|

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