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wingnut wrote:Aye i taut i alone was hooked after the first ep. I now watchin ep 4.....i cyah believe is only 5 ep.
Les Bain wrote:wingnut wrote:Aye i taut i alone was hooked after the first ep. I now watchin ep 4.....i cyah believe is only 5 ep.
Simple, dive into the history books after.
A few years ago I bought Voices From Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster, a collection of translated interviews from survivors and the displaced residents of Pripyat.
Imagine, the farmers knew the land was dead because there were no worms or beetles to be found in affected soil. One hell of a read.
Monk BANzai wrote:Les Bain wrote:wingnut wrote:Aye i taut i alone was hooked after the first ep. I now watchin ep 4.....i cyah believe is only 5 ep.
Simple, dive into the history books after.
A few years ago I bought Voices From Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster, a collection of translated interviews from survivors and the displaced residents of Pripyat.
Imagine, the farmers knew the land was dead because there were no worms or beetles to be found in affected soil. One hell of a read.
bhai. level pausing and google/Wiki'ing. episodes two and three with the Fireman's wife tho.....
Les Bain wrote:Monk BANzai wrote:Les Bain wrote:wingnut wrote:Aye i taut i alone was hooked after the first ep. I now watchin ep 4.....i cyah believe is only 5 ep.
Simple, dive into the history books after.
A few years ago I bought Voices From Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster, a collection of translated interviews from survivors and the displaced residents of Pripyat.
Imagine, the farmers knew the land was dead because there were no worms or beetles to be found in affected soil. One hell of a read.
bhai. level pausing and google/Wiki'ing. episodes two and three with the Fireman's wife tho.....
I waiting on the wife to continue to episode 2, but as you mention the fireman's wife, that sounds like the interview that started off Voices From Chernobyl. Endless tears reading that woman's experience.
Monk BANzai wrote:Les Bain wrote:Monk BANzai wrote:Les Bain wrote:wingnut wrote:Aye i taut i alone was hooked after the first ep. I now watchin ep 4.....i cyah believe is only 5 ep.
Simple, dive into the history books after.
A few years ago I bought Voices From Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster, a collection of translated interviews from survivors and the displaced residents of Pripyat.
Imagine, the farmers knew the land was dead because there were no worms or beetles to be found in affected soil. One hell of a read.
bhai. level pausing and google/Wiki'ing. episodes two and three with the Fireman's wife tho.....
I waiting on the wife to continue to episode 2, but as you mention the fireman's wife, that sounds like the interview that started off Voices From Chernobyl. Endless tears reading that woman's experience.
Yup....i mean even the series would hide some truths that would never see the light of day... but yeah...
D.S.S wrote:Did they show the lead up to the disaster? i now on ep 1 an it start after the lead up
D.S.S wrote:Did they show the lead up to the disaster? i now on ep 1 an it start after the lead up
maj. tom wrote:
The last episode has an underlying theme of the entire lie that the Soviet Union was for 70 years, at the cost of millions and millions of lives to save the lie. And if you read further, you would see how communism is so evil. Every single communist regime in history has commited mass genocide and crimes against humanity... murdering and suffering their own people for even having thoughts, just to make sure the lie is preserved. You thought the Nazis were bad? Compare the Holocaust with the Holodomor. This Chernobyl incident started the reforms that lead to the end of the Soviet Union.
Russia to make its own show about Chernobyl that implicates the US
Russian state TV is working on its own version of Chernobyl, a series based on the worst nuclear accident in history.
The NTV drama will deviate from the acclaimed HBO series - and from historical reality - by claiming that the CIA was involved in the disaster.
Director Aleksey Muradov claims it will show "what really happened back then".
HBO's miniseries, which concluded on Monday, received the highest ever score for a TV show on IMdB, as well as a 9.1 rating on Russian equivalent Kinopoisk.
But in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda, Russia's most widely-read tabloid, Mr Muradov said his version of the show "proposes an alternative view on the tragedy in Pripyat".
"There is a theory that Americans infiltrated the Chernobyl nuclear power plant," he told the paper. "Many historians do not rule out the possibility that on the day of the explosion, an agent of the enemy's intelligence services was working at the station."
The Hollywood Reporter reports that the Russian culture ministry has contributed 30 million rubles ($463,000; £363,000) to the show.
The No. 4 reactor at the Chernobyl nuclear plant exploded on 26 April 1986 in the Ukrainian city of Pripyat.
At least 31 people were killed in the immediate aftermath, and the effects continue to be felt to this day.
What did Russia think of HBO's Chernobyl?
There has been plenty of praise in Russia for the authenticity of Chernobyl.
Izvestia newspaper declared it a more 'realistic' portrayal of the era than most Russian films manage. There's also admiration of how the series conveys the heroism of ordinary people.
But there's been a crescendo of criticism, too. One columnist declared the show a plot to undermine Russia's current atomic agency. Others called it American 'propaganda', blackening the image of the USSR and exaggerating the callousness of the Soviet response.
No-one disputes that it's got people talking. They're been busy sharing their own Chernobyl stories on social media, with younger Russians often hearing them for the first time. So one Twitter user thanked the series for 'giving us back our history.'
In the end, as one commentator concludes, the main reason for the backlash is likely a feeling of shame that it was the US that told the tale of Chernobyl, not Russia itself.
The show has been particularly unpopular with Russian state TV and the country's tabloid newspapers.
Speaking to TV website Teleprogramma, columnist Anatoly Wasserman said: "If Anglo-Saxons film something about Russians, it definitely will not correspond to the truth."
This, he continued, was because "they don't like us" and "they cannot understand us".
Komsomolskaya Pravda published several negative articles about the show - including one floating a conspiracy theory that it was produced by competitors of Rosatom, Russia's state nuclear company, to ruin the country's reputation as a nuclear power.
But reviewers in independent media outlets praised its writer Craig Mazin for his minute attention to detail.
Slava Malamud, a US-based journalist who grew up during the Soviet era in what is now Moldova, wrote on the independent Russian news site Meduza that "the respect and meticulousness the show's creators brought to their work is breathtaking".
"Like I see the license plate for a car in one scene has the real numbers for the [Kiev] region," he said. "Who's going to notice that in America or England?"
For the Kremlin, the topic of history is a highly sensitive one - especially about the Soviet Union.
Official media now tend to paint a sanitised, idealised vision of the USSR, and portray Putin's Russia as its spiritual heir.
This makes it easy to see any critical view of the Soviet past as an attack on the Kremlin's ideological power base.
It's a narrative it seeks to completely control and guard from outside influences - particularly from a West it sees as hostile.
Some Russians feel the version of reality offered by Kremlin-controlled media is not entirely unlike the lies told by the Soviet state.
As a result, perhaps the most dangerous idea was the key question running though Chernobyl - what is the cost of lies?
maj. tom wrote:The only reason Yuri Gagarin was 1st in space was because the USSR didn't give a sheit about safety of their cosmonauts
maj. tom wrote:There is zero evidence to back the Russian Media's claims on American spying sabotage in the Chernobyl reactor. It was 100% the product of the Soviet Union culture of corruption and lies and no regard for human safety or even proper training. And what would the Americans gain from such a nuclear disaster anyway? The truth would have come out and they would be branded as the people who poisoned the Earth with radiation and death for 1000 generations. All to show up the USSR as a failed state and communism as a wrong ideology? They did that on their own.
Same thing with the Space program. The only reason Yuri Gagarin was 1st in space was because the USSR didn't give a sheit about safety of their cosmonauts. The Americans were ready to send their man Alan Shepard 3 weeks later, but with NASA ensuring full safety compliance and covered every possible emergency and rescue situation. The world would later witness just how terrible the USSR actually were in the space race when it came the Moon and developing a rocket to leave Earth orbit at 11 km/s. They developed the N1 rocket which was underfunded and very rushed and failed 4 times without ever leaving Earth! The Americans made the Saturn rocket which is still one of the greatest engineering marvels of humanity.
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