Chaguanas Traffic Plan

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That should hopefully ease things up. It might end up getting gridlocked with cars again in short order though.

I feel the government should look into putting infrastructure for bicycles/ebikes. They basically forcing everybody to buy a car by building more and more infrastructure that makes the environment safe for cars only. That is a proven recipe for traffic. I'm sure a lot of people would jump at the chance to (safely) ride a bike if they realised just how much quicker it is than a car in/around chaguanas. Might help with the diabetes epidemic too.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

That should hopefully ease things up. It might end up getting gridlocked with cars again in short order though.

I feel the government should look into putting infrastructure for bicycles/ebikes. They basically forcing everybody to buy a car by building more and more infrastructure that makes the environment safe for cars only. That is a proven recipe for traffic. I'm sure a lot of people would jump at the chance to (safely) ride a bike if they realised just how much quicker it is than a car in/around chaguanas. Might help with the diabetes epidemic too.

A number of locals and foreigners tried introducing bikes, scooters and mopeds here thinking it would take off like it did in other countries in Asia etc. But Trini's don't want to be seen using the same things as a food delivery man. We don't have the culture here for using mopeds etc en masse.

[maj. tom]

They're extremely popular in post-communist countries in Asia, because of the import bans on large engines during the Red era. Even the USSR had a 2-stroke, 2 cylinder car that could have been bought. I think Vietnam still has the same rules, so the scooter in the main transport there. But Russia and China abandoned that lifestyle as soon as the sanctions were lifted.

Yeah it's really not our culture, plus wtf when rain fall?! Imagine showing up for work looking like a wind-blown sardine.

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For real, it's definitely not our culture. Trinis prefer to spend hours in traffic everyday, spewing out emissions while going nowhere, and having to basically pattern our lives around the congestion. Meanwhile the food delivery men getting around efficiently, with no prestige, but also no hassle. Showing up for work (early/on time I presume) looking like a sardine is one thing, but tbh, we seldom have heavy rainfall for hours on end - our climate is usually pretty dry for most of the year.

But I was not really thinking about 2 stroke scooters and mopeds.....technology has changed a lot in the past decade. I see that Uber has caught on to this and is launching electric bikes in cities around the world. Essentially they allow people to get physical activity (the equivalent of walking), get past the traffic and keep the air clean too. A tiny electric motor boosts each pedal stroke and keeps the place free of the heat, noise and smoke of a 2 stroke. It has even been shown to help people who would otherwise be sedentary reduce their risk of non-communicable disease (they inadvertently get gentle amounts of exercise by using the electric bike to get past congestion)......this is a great advantage over a gas powered moped.

https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/07/ ... ic-bike-2/

https://phys.org/news/2019-05-bike-week ... affic.html

(not sure how to embed the links)

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32 million to build a roundabout is a jackarse move by any govt. instead the govt should look to make money by amending whatever law to include when a person goes to renew their drivers must retake ALL the test which includes regulations and driving test cause after trinidad drivers get their license they forget all the rules of driving, rules governing the same roundabout, rules regarding switching lanes, right of way, merging onto the highway etc. MAKE all citizens mandatory to retake all the regs and driving test every 3 years and not 10 or 5 years. and either there will be less drivers on the road or certain persons would get richer to make sure people get their license. all this penalties and speed guns is jus money wasting also.

Imagine there are illiterate people like this on the road. The whole project with the roundabouts and roads cost

that. How is re-doing regs and driving test going to solve anything? You believe people don't know the regs or

rules , that's why they drive like that? What kind of chaos it would be if everybody had to do over tests every three years ?

allyuh duz drive one a different road than me ah wah. 99% ah d drivers drive like fools. simple of puting on ah indicator when changing lanes they doh do. driving should be a privilege not a right jus cause you turn 18 and cud afford a license. if them fools obey the law by medford it aint go have traffic and no need to cater to lange park residence and waste that money. but most are fools and followers and i see that every day.

What kind of chaos it would be if everybody had to do over tests every three years - exactly - the govt makes money and if its too much trouble u dont go for the license and there is one less fool on the road.

[Rovin]

like CBC doh even ha $ to buy some blasted paint to repaint d worn out white lines in d borough far less to improve anything major .... dem is a next story by dey self

[SR]

Pnm will never use a humphrey designed overpass


Look at the gb screwup compared to the design he had for that intersection

[MG Man]

a wind-blown sardine.

[2ndchance]

Did they close the older exit to come off the UBH southbound by the Min of Agriculture building?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Did they close the older exit to come off the UBH southbound by the Min of Agriculture building?

Yes they did

[nick639v2]

Did they close the older exit to come off the UBH southbound by the Min of Agriculture building?

Yup. It catch me today..

Regular traffic too

[2ndchance]

Did they close the older exit to come off the UBH southbound by the Min of Agriculture building?

Yup. It catch me today..

Thanks.

Regular traffic too

Was wondering if the new roundabout will really help with the traffic. Seems like it mostly provides one alternative route - for those leaving PriceSmart/MovieTowne who wish to join the UBH southound.

[2ndchance]

Did they close the older exit to come off the UBH southbound by the Min of Agriculture building?

Yes they did

Thanks. Like the labelled photos you posted earlier. Any more info on this "Chaguanas Traffic Alleviation Project"? The best I could find was this facebook video

[eurotuner]

One aspect that should be addressed as soon as possible is getting northbound from there. You still have to go south ,go around the roundabout after price plaza(Lange park) then go north, cross the Endeavor flyover, go around Chan Ramlal St and then go back to the Northbound. Most of the time the traffic is heavy . The other option is going North along the lay-by in Charlieville and going back to Munro Rd ,which is another problem at peak hours especially. If they open back the flyover but make it like Couva and Sando ( move the on and off ramps opposite to how they are now), or make another one at Soogrim tr.it would take away a lot of traffic from the south bound traffic at Narsaloo Ramayana

THIS!!!!! just open the flyover and things will be nice.. Cuz on a busy day I don't see this helping that exiting Lange traffic onto the northbound too much

Was thinking this, just open it for god sake.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Did they close the older exit to come off the UBH southbound by the Min of Agriculture building?

Yes they did

Thanks. Like the labelled photos you posted earlier. Any more info on this "Chaguanas Traffic Alleviation Project"? The best I could find was this facebook video

This is interesting

[pete]

As they building on ramps they might as well put one there as well so instead of having to stop and wait for cars to let you turn right by the gas station, you take the left before then go to that on ramp and ya onto the northbound. Could take it a step further and make it a no right turn/no entry by the gas station and if you want to access the businesses in that block take the same route onto then off the highway at the next turn off.

[rspann]

They need signs at the first roundabout. The one by Inshan Ishmael place.

[worksux101]

As they building on ramps they might as well put one there as well so instead of having to stop and wait for cars to let you turn right by the gas station, you take the left before then go to that on ramp and ya onto the northbound. Could take it a step further and make it a no right turn/no entry by the gas station and if you want to access the businesses in that block take the same route onto then off the highway at the next turn off.

This is brilliant

[Musical Doc]

The chaguanas upgrade in phases

http://www.mowt.gov.tt/Divisions/Progra ... ency-(PURE)-Un/Projects/Test-Project

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The chaguanas upgrade in phases

http://www.mowt.gov.tt/Divisions/Progra ... ency-(PURE)-Un/Projects/Test-Project

the endeavour and monroe road designs look non-sensible.


maybe something like this instead?

[The_Honourable]

The chaguanas upgrade in phases

http://www.mowt.gov.tt/Divisions/Progra ... ency-(PURE)-Un/Projects/Test-Project

the endeavour and monroe road designs look non-sensible.

maybe something like this instead?

Better to build an overpass by price plaza roundabout. It starts there and goes across the highway to the empty lands next to Home Mortgage Bank building along mulchan seuchan road where you put a roundabout that connects both the flyover traffic (from Rodney Road, Endeavor, Price Plaza) and mulchan seuchan traffic to the northbound of the highway.

This takes some load off endeavor connector road flyover.

(Click photo to zoom)

[Rovin]

i 4get i made this thread yes

up to now i havent had d cause to go that specific area to use this new roundabout ...

[Rovin]

i jes see on tv pnm using this roundabout in their ad as a achievement of something that made life easier for those who use - has it really ? ...

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i jes see on tv pnm using this roundabout in their ad as a achievement of something that made life easier for those who use - has it really ? ...

Their so called achievements are filled with non truths.

[maj. tom]

Yes the roundabout and double exits are very useful.
1 for the residents of Jerningham and Endeavour coming off the highway southbound to go home. A good hundred thousand and more people live in this area.

2. to get off the highway and get to X-tra foods, Pennywise and Pricesmart without killing the other roundabout just before Bhagwansingh's. Those places have thousands of customers per day. That other one is the exit for people to get to Lange Park and access through Crown Trace.

I have never met traffic on the Heartland Plaza roundabout because so far it's working.

3. Planning for the future. That entire area is going to be developed within 20 years and that roundabout is only a partial plan to accommodate the traffic and growth in the area. They can add a flyover and another roundabout in the area which will fit with that infrastructure. It also encourages growth because they created new roads and drainage and will give access to land developers. Before it was only bush.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

They need to poll ppl traversing the Endeavour flyover to see where they are going to and coming from.
Depending on the result of that survey they can tell where needs the most relief.
Putting another overpass connecting Orchard Gardens to Price Plaza may not help anything if most of the traffic using the Endeavour flyover are going to Cunupia and Charlieville. In which case the better solution is to connect Marchin Rd. to Pierre Road with a flyover. This will take a large chunk of traffic away from the Endeavour Flyover and free up the congestion.

[pugboy]

That is a good suggestion, charlieville side is extremely densely populated just like cunupia.

They need to poll ppl traversing the Endeavour flyover to see where they are going to and coming from.
Depending on the result of that survey they can tell where needs the most relief.
Putting another overpass connecting Orchard Gardens to Price Plaza may not help anything if most of the traffic using the Endeavour flyover are going to Cunupia and Charlieville. In which case the better solution is to connect Marchin Rd. to Pierre Road with a flyover. This will take a large chunk of traffic away from the Endeavour Flyover and free up the congestion.

[Rovin]

what will help pricesmart & monroe rd flyovers is opposite entrancing of d ramps like what was done to couva & golconda flyovers ...

[pugboy]

Aka clover leaf exits

The price plaza setup that was designed for rahael was not very scaleable.

what will help pricesmart & monroe rd flyovers is opposite entrancing of d ramps like what was done to couva & golconda flyovers ...

[4kin4kar]

They need to poll ppl traversing the Endeavour flyover to see where they are going to and coming from.
Depending on the result of that survey they can tell where needs the most relief.
Putting another overpass connecting Orchard Gardens to Price Plaza may not help anything if most of the traffic using the Endeavour flyover are going to Cunupia and Charlieville. In which case the better solution is to connect Marchin Rd. to Pierre Road with a flyover. This will take a large chunk of traffic away from the Endeavour Flyover and free up the congestion.

Great idea but it in think the poll should start just before the Caroni flyover to get an idea where the drivers are going. Give them alternative routes even before passing heartland plaza. Do the same for drivers coming from south. We need to start utilizing Carlsen field roads. The key is to give drivers alternative route that's easier and it will ease the congestion.