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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby l33t2 » July 15th, 2019, 2:59 pm

Well this will be an epic fail, boycott this BS.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby fatboy slim » July 15th, 2019, 3:53 pm

Soul Collector wrote:
rollingstock wrote:Was really hoping for Idris

Same. I thought that woulda been enough diversity for them and be good casting too but nah.....wahmen power.


this gender equality sheit getting out of hand :x

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby assassin » July 15th, 2019, 7:20 pm

It's kinda misleading tho
Craig is still Bond in this movie albeit he is recently retired and his replacement is female

I think they're testing the reception. If it tanks, they could always change going forward. If it finds favour with audiences, she would star the next movie as full 007

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby Premchand1976 » July 15th, 2019, 8:07 pm

aaron17 wrote:Meanwhile ...Dr evil is still holding the world ransom for 100 billion dollars.
Mua ha ha ha ha ha

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby sMASH » July 15th, 2019, 8:28 pm

sooo y not demo idris elba for 007? or even a 008

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby ruffneck_12 » July 15th, 2019, 9:28 pm

maj. tom wrote:I liked Captain Marvel though. I thought it was a good film with a lead female role that had good acting. But then you would see the unrealistic Black Widow clearing a room with no super-powers. I really don't understand the Hollywood beat-up stance that feminists take when trying to compare a masculine character. Are men and women even supposed to be equal? "oh 2 billion years of evolution, you so stupid!"



If you liked captain marvel, you gon like this new bond movie I reckon


captain marvel was just feminist propaganda, but not as much as this new 007 jed

brb, putting a trans woman as a playboy centerfold

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby De Dragon » July 15th, 2019, 10:05 pm

Fackery. I'm all for diversity and empowering of women, but some roles are destined to be male only.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby sMASH » July 15th, 2019, 10:13 pm

what is she is also a womanizer?

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby ismithx » July 15th, 2019, 10:51 pm

De Dragon wrote:Fackery. I'm all for diversity and empowering of women, but some roles are destined to be male only.


damn right, you are

just like some roles are destined to be female only

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby The_Honourable » July 15th, 2019, 11:14 pm

Diversity from the woke crowd going too far. Simply make a new female character where Lashana Lynch could act as a co-lead?

Was rooting for Idris Elba to be the next 007.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby Ben_spanna » July 16th, 2019, 2:34 pm

I hope holly wood is thinking about putting a big man as the next Cat woman!
And fak yes, not going to see that new bond movie..

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby Miktay » July 16th, 2019, 3:08 pm

A few of these gender empowering shows arent bad.

However I will await the Android box release of thiz flik and judge it on itz merits

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby Slartibartfast » July 16th, 2019, 3:26 pm

sMASH wrote:sooo y not demo idris elba for 007? or even a 008

Trevor Noah covered this already.



He raised a good point though. For this to work they will need to keep her on assignment locations where she would fit in. Anyway... after the 50 marvel movies I kinda fedup of remakes a sequels. I've decided to only watch original movies (and John Wick sequels) in cinema. TV for everything else.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby sMASH » July 16th, 2019, 6:44 pm

my idea is for hand over movie. where daneil craig has to handle stuff in his region, and he needs idris to handle stuff else where. a tandem operation. and he assumes the 007 position. he will be used in places that he will fit.

but, the f&f franchise has him doing sort of that role, but in a more interesting set up.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby agent007 » July 16th, 2019, 7:28 pm

Guess I'll be changing my name after 11yrs.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby Country_Bookie » July 16th, 2019, 7:41 pm

This movie will be a flop. People paid money to see the last 24 bond movies because they want to see a bad assed spy beat the crap out of the bad guys and not give a damn about anybody while getting the girl. Tastes are not gonna change because of the feminist agenda and all the woke nonsense. A woman in that role is not gonna be believable.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby racedriverpro » July 16th, 2019, 8:30 pm

Clearly you haven't factored in wakanda forever.
Country_Bookie wrote:This movie will be a flop. People paid money to see the last 24 bond movies because they want to see a bad assed spy beat the crap out of the bad guys and not give a damn about anybody while getting the girl. Tastes are not gonna change because of the feminist agenda and all the woke nonsense. A woman in that role is not gonna be believable.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby sMASH » July 16th, 2019, 8:41 pm

agent007 wrote:Guess I'll be changing my name after 11yrs.

agentess007

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Postby eliteauto » July 16th, 2019, 8:57 pm

Reading and comprehension, the bane of many

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby matr1x » July 16th, 2019, 10:18 pm

Remember, there are no feminists in a house fire

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby FordeG » July 16th, 2019, 11:35 pm

racedriverpro wrote:Clearly you haven't factored in wakanda forever.
Country_Bookie wrote:This movie will be a flop. People paid money to see the last 24 bond movies because they want to see a bad assed spy beat the crap out of the bad guys and not give a damn about anybody while getting the girl. Tastes are not gonna change because of the feminist agenda and all the woke nonsense. A woman in that role is not gonna be believable.


Won't flop, but it really really really should have been a black man instead of a women.

This ultra progressive initiative, for the sake of being seen as forward, is just simply a cash grab for stupid liberal millennials.

A female James bond is insulting Ian Fleming.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby Les Bain » July 17th, 2019, 7:50 am

This will make it possible for Shailene Woodley to play Kunta Kinte in Roots someday, so i can't complain.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby amd-dude » July 17th, 2019, 2:58 pm

So the new bond movie will be Ms Bond picking up beta males at the bar?

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby MG Man » July 17th, 2019, 3:27 pm

amd-dude wrote:So the new bond movie will be Ms Bond picking up beta males at the bar?


THIS :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby RedVEVO » July 18th, 2019, 11:51 pm

^^

This woman liberation tingy is not my cup of Grey Earl or Chia Latte tea.

Why woman does have to mess up everything ?

Now if the Woman 007 have a Bond Girl and they scissoring

Well I good then .

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby ruffneck_12 » July 19th, 2019, 7:36 am

Ben_spanna wrote:I hope holly wood is thinking about putting a big man as the next Cat woman!
And fak yes, not going to see that new bond movie..



They would never, because they're about empowering women by bashing men.

RedVEVO wrote:^^

This woman liberation tingy is not my cup of Grey Earl or Chia Latte tea.

Why woman does have to mess up everything ?

Now if the Woman 007 have a Bond Girl and they scissoring

Well I good then .


Because weak men let them mess up everything.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby solarkh » July 19th, 2019, 9:36 am

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby Les Bain » July 19th, 2019, 9:55 am

I remember when Disney had pissed off a lot of geezers by removing the late night block of black&white programming of their youth. Disney basically said, the time for that gone and those shows aren't only unrelated to their current demographic, they are products of times that need too much explaining at risk of upsetting people.

World seemed to have moved on from Bond IMO. Cold War done, the gadgets are very commonplace and masculinity is taboo.

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby hydroep » July 19th, 2019, 10:10 am

Long but interesting article, written by a woman no less...

We hardcore Bond fans crave seductive escapism – not a morality tale of #MeToo and 'toxic masculinity'
Madeline Grant

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In many James Bond films, the pre-credits sequence has very little bearing on the rest of the plot. Take Octopussy, where Bond deploys the smallest jet plane in the world (housed in a fake horse’s nether regions) to destroy a Cuban airfield, or Moonraker’s mid-air tussle over a parachute. Yet Casino Royale’s intro depicts a truly formative moment. Shot in grainy, Hitchcockian black-and-white, Bond gains his 00 status by confronting and killing two enemies - a turncoat MI6 section chief and his contact, in particularly gruesome fashion. After Pierce Brosnan’s final outing in the CGI’d monstrosity Die Another Day, Casino Royale’s intro indicated what kind of Bond Daniel Craig might be; cold, calculating and ruthless.

As a lifelong Bond fan, my heart sank when I heard the latest news from the set of the 25th instalment in the series. One insider told the Daily Mail about a “popcorn-dropping” moment, when it is revealed that Bond has retired and a female MI6 colleague, played by Lashana Lynch, has inherited this all-important codename. The source gushes over “a pivotal scene at the start of the film” where M says “‘Come in 007’, and “in walks Lashana who is black, beautiful and a woman.”

We learn that Bond must navigate “the world of #MeToo”, and the film seems to position him as a Weinstein-like figure. “Bond, of course, is sexually attracted to the new female 007 and tries his usual seduction tricks, but is baffled when they don't work on a brilliant, young black woman who basically rolls her eyes at him and has no interest in jumping into his bed.”

The announcements suggest PR dark arts at work to rescue a production that has suffered its share of setbacks; directors and actors walking away, the producers drafting in script doctors, injuries and accidents on set and controversy over its title. With Bond having already left MI6, the assignment of 007 to a female agent will presumably mean her character is killed off at some point, enabling Bond to resume his role, or else we’ll be in reboot territory yet again. But the stamp of identity politics is unmistakable.

Why does this matter? Audiences don’t go to Bond to be reminded of the perils of toxic masculinity - they go for escapism. Of course Bond shouldn’t remain frozen in time, but the series already shows how to update and critique his character without emasculating Bond or making him and the role obsolete. Think about when Judi Dench's M skewers Bond as a "sexist, ­misogynist dinosaur, a relic of the Cold War”, or how, long before the advent of #MeToo, Timothy Dalton’s Bond took a far more respectful approach towards his love interests.

Yet recent versions have featured Bond’s inner torments so prominently that the writer’s hand on the scales is painfully clear - and there are consequently very few laughs. Who wants an introspective Bond? Many highlight the flaws of Roger Moore films; the gags and silliness, the feeble attempts to make us believe that a near-pensioner is executing the extraordinary stunts. But ultimately they are far more fun, and recognisably ‘Bond’ than several of his recent outings.

Granted, some of the greatest Bonds go ‘off piste’. The woefully under-appreciated Licence to Kill follows a vigilante plot, in which Bond ditches his 00 badge and arguably the only thing that ever meant anything in his life to avenge his friend Felix Leiter. In Casino Royale, Bond similarly abandons his MI6 career to travel the world with Vesper Lynd. These were powerful, emotive moments. But the trouble is that every film since Casino Royale has scorned recognised Bond formulae, and the alleged ‘novelty’ is wearing thin.

Pre-Craig Bond films were self-contained episodes which occasionally referenced Bond’s tragic past in subtle fashion, as in For Your Eyes Only, when Bond delivers flowers to the grave of his murdered wife. But following the rebooted Casino Royale the series has never quite returned to ‘business as usual’ - and seems overburdened with emotional baggage.

Skyfall saw Bond blowing up his entire family home in an effort to cleanse himself of the past, but even this was not enough. Spectre, enjoyable for much of its run time, ended with a ludicrous backstory that sought to tie all the previous few films together - and the news that Christoph Waltz will reprise his role as Blofeld in Bond 25 means we can expect this tedious thread to continue. Lea Seydoux’s return as Madeleine Swann also breaks a convention observed since Goldfinger of not recalling the same love interest twice.

Recent filmmakers have tried consistently to derive deeper meaning than being “just a Bond”, in scorning traditions like one-liners and fiendish inventions dreamt up by the tekkies back at HQ. When Bond laments the absence of gadgets in Sam Mendes' Skyfall, Q replies, “What did you expect, an exploding pen?” Many loved this homage to fan-favourite Goldeneye, but I read it as a smug put-down of a far superior ancestor.

Eon Productions should be careful to avoid torching too much of Fleming’s raw material. Recent YouGov polling found, unsurprisingly, that tinkering with the core elements of the Bond line-up, introducing a female Bond, gay Bond, non-British Bond and so on, registers much less favourably with long-term fans than occasional viewers.

The direction of the Star Wars series under Disney, and particularly the divisive Last Jedi, which sacrificed plot consistency for 'woke' political messaging, should remind filmmakers of the risks of trying to appeal to the right-on commentariat rather than giving fans at least a little of what they want. Critics loved The Last Jedi; Guardian reviewers praised its feminist credentials. But these are not the people the series needs to impress. They are not the fans who turn out in their droves, buy the merchandise and pass on their love of Bond to the next generation.

When it came to the next Star Wars feature, Solo, millions voted with their feet and stayed at home. I fear the same may happen to my beloved Bond if filmmakers continue to portray him as a problematic character to be pitied, not the flawed, but undeniably seductive, powerful and enviable figure he is.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2019/07/16/james-bond-must-not-become-morality-tale-toxic-masculinity/

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Re: A woman is the new 007

Postby sMASH » July 19th, 2019, 10:32 am

Les Bain wrote:I remember when Disney had pissed off a lot of geezers by removing the late night block of black&white programming of their youth. Disney basically said, the time for that gone and those shows aren't only unrelated to their current demographic, they are products of times that need too much explaining at risk of upsetting people.

World seemed to have moved on from Bond IMO. Cold War done, the gadgets are very commonplace and masculinity is taboo.


like how 95.1 went from the rock to the best mix to the remix.

i understand what that article there. but, how much modification u will keep doing to something, and still claim its the same?
it have plenty other new franchises that took its place, in the updated fashion.

like fast and furious. what it is now, isnt what it was started as. it used to be about the car culture and racing culture. now its an action flick with a lot of cars. and they know that, that is why they transitioning with hobbs and shaw, where the focus is on the action, with a lot of cool car thingies.

if bond not b*llin oman all over, what u have is mission impossible or kingsman.

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