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Dizzy28 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Fuel efficiency is great but we are lacking far more in the road and transport infrastructure department. There is waaaay too much traffic caused by too many cars on too little roads. We need better public transport, HOV lanes and to encourage carpooling to improve overall efficiency.
Taking an hour longer during rush hour traffic than it usually takes to the same destination is insane, especially on such a small island. Most cars only have the driver in it.
Will you use it (Carpooling and Public Transport) ?
In most discussions on this the current drivers want those things so it can clear up the roads for them to continue to drive but with less traffic than before.
Kronik wrote: What about the person behind them in a normal car that can't see anything in front, and can't even see through their vehicle glass because it too high. It good for the SUV man, but suffers the others
adnj wrote:Car-based SUVs that are near the top of the line from Porsche, Honda, Toyota, GM, etc., can be rated very safe.
Nearly all pickups manufactured receive crash worthiness ratings of "marginal" or worse. The only exception is the Honda SUV-derivative Ridgeline pickup.
SUV and pickups facts:
Have a more commanding view of the road due to driver position and ride height.
Are more likely to cripple or kill pedestrians because of ride height.
Are more likely to be involved in collisions than passenger cars for drivers of the same age group.
Have drivers that are more often classified as "aggressive."
Heavier vehicles inflict more damage during collisions with lighter vehicles.
Heavier vehicles are subjected to greater forces during collisions with fixed barriers.
Pickups and SUVs are more prone to roll over and handling error.
Rovin wrote:this topic cud hit 10 pages with ease but in d end nothing gonna change by d powers that be or by d public drivers\consumers ....
rspann wrote:I don't know if this applies to Trinidad. It's more like an American problem.The American SUVs are big, heavy gas guzzlers. Does the same apply to our suvs ? I find the SUVs here to be comparable to cars and generally give good gas mileage. The pickups are mostly diesel and give good mileage too.
rspann wrote:I don't know if this applies to Trinidad. It's more like an American problem.The American SUVs are big, heavy gas guzzlers. Does the same apply to our suvs ? I find the SUVs here to be comparable to cars and generally give good gas mileage. The pickups are mostly diesel and give good mileage too.
rspann wrote:Example?????
Truck based vehicles? Which major SUV bracket is truck based in Trinidad. You have a few Everest's, isuzus and Toyotas and the majority are diesel which cancels the economy argument. Sportages, xtrails and Tucsons are on par with the cars because they have the same engines. Correct me if I'm wrong .
sMASH wrote:Ben_spanna wrote:
BAck fill that entire area after sea lots and construct a Massive Transport hub that will service the entire POS area and environs, new overass so no more cars turning at lighthouse.
PArk and ride into the city or taxis, buses etc at this point. New road from Sealots before into transit and new exit out of redone existing city gate which will also be converted into parking.
ill do u one better; instead of major transport hub to bring people in, why not bring them and leave them there, never let them leave?
put the people who have to come from far, in housing close to the towns, so they save time, save money, u dont have to upgrade hundreds of kilometers of roads around the country, u dont need to get thousands of vehicles to shuttle them in, and back.
what u do, is u make varied hosusing options. not houses but high rise, high quality living spaces. from single bedroom to 4 bed room for families. u pup play parks with day cares/ early childhood centers, and primary schools, and health centers etc. just like hdc developments all over but with high rise buildings. sumting like edinghbourough 500. where u have mass transits like small maxis the major transport in and out, to the city. u dont put many car park spaces, cause the idea is, to keep using mass transits, at least to for the day to day movements.
i was thinking to get rid of beetham and lavantille to do that. but that woudl be expensive to move them and complicated as u would have to make places for them to move out TO. backfilling there might actually be simpler. and u could leave the beethamites to do their business.
but this whole thread was really to distract away from the bump of the pyramid thread. look how much establishment accounts jump out to prop it.
randolphinshan wrote:Rovin wrote:this topic cud hit 10 pages with ease but in d end nothing gonna change by d powers that be or by d public drivers\consumers ....
True from 10 to 15 a certain PM when money was flowing chose to ride helicopter while the public suffered like dogs.The Point Fortin to San Fernanfo highway was plagued by corruption in the tune of billions
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Yes! I will use it if it is efficient, on time and safe. Public transport is the main way to travel in many developed cities around the world.
MG Man wrote:NarendZORCE wrote:What do you all think? True or not true?
oh lord, post de link to de article nah
Rovin wrote:this topic cud hit 10 pages with ease but in d end nothing gonna change by d powers that be or by d public drivers\consumers ....
NarendZORCE wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Yes! I will use it if it is efficient, on time and safe. Public transport is the main way to travel in many developed cities around the world.
Agreed.
rspann wrote:The thing is ,public transport will only place you so far. Are you willing to trek the rest of the distance ,especially due to security concerns?. The tri-rail works well in southern florida, but when you have to get off and go somewhere from there what are the options. If I was just going into POS fine, but say I want to go up Stanmore Ave ,will there be further transport ?
I agree with you but safety is not the main reason. Trinidad's services and infrastructure are not as well developed in some instances and not as well planned in others.ProtonPowder wrote:The main difference between TnT and more developed countries is that it is safe to walk the difference between the bus stop and your destination.
Even if it had place to lock your bicycles, people would cut your lock with a bolt cutter and throw it in a navara tray.
In TnT, we dont have neat little school districts funded by your local property taxes, we have children from chaguanas where neighbours of the same age would choose to send their kids to either PoS or Sando convent.
The traffic and emissions problem is far deeper than just cars alone. Everybody needs a car to functionally operate in this country, I certainly not giving up mine for my 5km drive to work.
sMASH wrote:rspann wrote:The thing is ,public transport will only place you so far. Are you willing to trek the rest of the distance ,especially due to security concerns?. The tri-rail works well in southern florida, but when you have to get off and go somewhere from there what are the options. If I was just going into POS fine, but say I want to go up Stanmore Ave ,will there be further transport ?
that is what is unique to PoS. it is so big, that there should be so much public transport that it will become its own little self sustaining ecology i.e. from the 'suburb' to PoS will hadda get every ting u need. u hadda put so much people in that place that it would be worth while to have 24/7 freelance transport.
what i have in mind, is towers like multiple One Woodbrook place tower blocks. so is realllll people. so taxi and maxi men will bong to get wuk.. like a short version of the PBR...
the only time someone should really need a car, is if they need to go somewhere past beetham. and they could always rent a vehicle or watsapp a trusted driver.
rspann wrote:sMASH wrote:rspann wrote:The thing is ,public transport will only place you so far. Are you willing to trek the rest of the distance ,especially due to security concerns?. The tri-rail works well in southern florida, but when you have to get off and go somewhere from there what are the options. If I was just going into POS fine, but say I want to go up Stanmore Ave ,will there be further transport ?
that is what is unique to PoS. it is so big, that there should be so much public transport that it will become its own little self sustaining ecology i.e. from the 'suburb' to PoS will hadda get every ting u need. u hadda put so much people in that place that it would be worth while to have 24/7 freelance transport.
what i have in mind, is towers like multiple One Woodbrook place tower blocks. so is realllll people. so taxi and maxi men will bong to get wuk.. like a short version of the PBR...
the only time someone should really need a car, is if they need to go somewhere past beetham. and they could always rent a vehicle or watsapp a trusted driver.
OHHO! Is vision 2230.
rspann wrote:Good plan, but with the governance we have here(especially as it looking like shitkickers here for a while) when you think this could happen and at what cost? We can't even buy a boat.
De Dragon wrote:rspann wrote:Good plan, but with the governance we have here(especially as it looking like shitkickers here for a while) when you think this could happen and at what cost? We can't even buy a boat.
For improvement in public transport to take place, the mentality has to change. I mean out with the corruption, small mindedness and self-serving agendas. We scorn taking the bus here, sometimes for good reason (breakdowns etc) but as someone said, when you go to the US and see the distances that you can safely and reliably reach with public transport, you wonder what, or who is holding us back from the same.
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