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Re: Iran plane crash - Ukrainian Boeing 737 with 180 aboard crashes after takeoff from Tehran airport

Postby ruffrider27 » January 10th, 2020, 5:29 am

Zetski wrote:How do you shoot down a commercial aircraft by mistake?? cant you see the nav lights and hear it?
WTF!

Ground to air missile,experts saying made in Russia , Iran bought many weapons and protective counter attack systems from Russia ,simple answer passenger plane just took off , moments after surprised missile attacks , so maybe plane was on the runway waiting to take flight ,person with the weapon sure a heat seeking ,seeing the lights or hearing a low flying aircraft thinking its a counter attack , fires it was nighttime , all these innocent people on that flight murdered ,one person gave orders with only thinking about revenge .
Earlier same day the Americans say Iran was setting up ground troops with large military vehicles at the border ,they knew an attack was about to happen .

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Postby maj. tom » January 10th, 2020, 7:43 am

Crash sites already cleaned up. Never happened. Iran has no respect for their own people. They can't even admit it was a mistake. It just never happened.

Iran has promised a full investigation. However, TV images from the crash site on Thursday showed a bulldozer helping to clear debris away, raising concerns that vital evidence could have been removed.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51062369


CBS crew just visited the #Ukrainian airlines crash site west of Tehran. Nine am local time. Virtually all pieces of the plane were removed yesterday - say locals. Scavengers now picking site clean. No security. Not cordoned off. No sign of any investigators.
https://twitter.com/elizapalmer/status/ ... 3961630720

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Postby VexXx Dogg » January 10th, 2020, 9:26 am

If history is to repeat itself, the outcome would be

1. An apology without admission.
2. Litigation with Compensation
3. No justice.

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Postby MaxPower » January 10th, 2020, 11:36 am

Muslims make it bad for other Muslims.

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Postby bluefete » January 10th, 2020, 1:38 pm

Good for all those who want to swallow the Gospel of Trump wholesale.

I can tell you the Trump Administration is lying through its teeth about the killing of the General and the blowing up of the Iranian passenger plane.

But of course, you will have to wait years for the truth to come out.

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Postby The_Honourable » January 10th, 2020, 1:43 pm

bluefete wrote:Good for all those who want to swallow the Gospel of Trump wholesale.

I can tell you the Trump Administration is lying through its teeth about the killing of the General and the blowing up of the Iranian passenger plane.

But of course, you will have to wait years for the truth to come out.


Why we have to wait years? Tell we nuh... :?

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Postby redmanjp » January 10th, 2020, 1:58 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
bluefete wrote:Good for all those who want to swallow the Gospel of Trump wholesale.

I can tell you the Trump Administration is lying through its teeth about the killing of the General and the blowing up of the Iranian passenger plane.

But of course, you will have to wait years for the truth to come out.


Why we have to wait years? Tell we nuh... :?


we still waiting on the truth about why the WTC towers collapse and why thermite was found at ground zero despite no admission of any explosives

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Postby speedmelter » January 10th, 2020, 2:02 pm

imagine if there was just one american on that plane huh.. even just one hmm

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Postby Miktay » January 11th, 2020, 12:53 am

So much for technical failures...

Iranian military says it 'unintentionally' shot down Ukrainian plane

Iran’s military admitted it “unintentionally” shot down a Ukrainian passenger plane hours after the country had launched ballistic missiles at Iraqi bases hosting U.S. troops, Iranian state TV reported.

State TV cited a military statement that blamed “human error."
Based on a preliminary conclusion by the armed forces, "human error at time of crisis caused by US adventurism led to disaster, "Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammed Javad Zarif tweeted.

"Our profound regrets, apologies and condolences to our people, to the families of all victims, and to other affected nations," Zarif wrote.

Iran had previously denied shooting down the Ukraine International Airlines shortly after it took off from Tehran early Wednesday. All 176 people aboard were killed.
Prior to Iran's admission Saturday, U.S. intelligence officials had evidence that the Boeing 737 was shot down by an Iranian missile by mistake, multiple officials have said.

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Postby ruffrider27 » January 11th, 2020, 3:27 am

Miktay wrote:So much for technical failures...

Iranian military says it 'unintentionally' shot down Ukrainian plane

Iran’s military admitted it “unintentionally” shot down a Ukrainian passenger plane hours after the country had launched ballistic missiles at Iraqi bases hosting U.S. troops, Iranian state TV reported.

State TV cited a military statement that blamed “human error."
Based on a preliminary conclusion by the armed forces, "human error at time of crisis caused by US adventurism led to disaster, "Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammed Javad Zarif tweeted.

"Our profound regrets, apologies and condolences to our people, to the families of all victims, and to other affected nations," Zarif wrote.

Iran had previously denied shooting down the Ukraine International Airlines shortly after it took off from Tehran early Wednesday. All 176 people aboard were killed.
Prior to Iran's admission Saturday, U.S. intelligence officials had evidence that the Boeing 737 was shot down by an Iranian missile by mistake, multiple officials have said.
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Zetski wrote:How do you shoot down a commercial aircraft by mistake?? cant you see the nav lights and hear it?
WTF!

Ground to air missile,experts saying made in Russia , Iran bought many weapons and protective counter attack systems from Russia ,simple answer passenger plane just took off , moments after surprised missile attacks , so maybe plane was on the runway waiting to take flight ,person with the weapon sure a heat seeking ,seeing the lights or hearing a low flying aircraft thinking its a counter attack , fires it was nighttime , all these innocent people on that flight murdered ,one person gave orders with only thinking about revenge .
Earlier same day the Americans say Iran was setting up ground troops with large military vehicles at the border ,they knew an attack was about to happen .

exactly what played out , maybe in a way this ended Iran to back down .

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Postby fokhan_96 » January 11th, 2020, 6:19 am

Well they said they were sorry. Everything alright now. Move on folks ... nothing to see here.

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Postby MaxPower » January 11th, 2020, 6:57 am

Execute those responsible.

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Postby maj. tom » January 11th, 2020, 8:15 am

It's Iran, so they likely will behead them. The battery commander at least, who gave the orders to push the trigger button.

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Postby boxy » January 11th, 2020, 8:16 am

The irony of all this is Iran spent two decades reminding the US about this incident and calling them Demons and death to America etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

And now they gone f*ck up and do the exact same thing.

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Postby Redman » January 11th, 2020, 10:29 am

I remember talking with a Senior BWIA pilot after TWA 800 .....he felt that the missile theory was a valid one ...he based that on his actual experiences on approach to JKF/LGX.

His position is that the kinda stuff they saw coming up in their visual range-they believe missiles were being tested.

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Postby VexXx Dogg » January 11th, 2020, 10:43 am

They admitted it was an unintentional takedown. It's all over the news atm.

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Postby Dizzy28 » January 11th, 2020, 11:03 am

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Postby Dohplaydat » January 11th, 2020, 11:09 am

Honestlty, Iran is good at PR. But to be honest they really had no choice. Literally everyone with a brain knew something very suspicious happened.

All those 'experts' claiming it could have been mechanical failure or a maintenance issue really are some idiots. Evidence staring you in your face that a plane was shot down but you still hesitant to call it what it is.

RIP passengers, I doubt they suffered much, but if they did it was short lived. That ground explosion was massive. But also expected given how quickly that plane dropped out of the sky.

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Postby Blaze d Chalice » January 11th, 2020, 12:26 pm

Iran is a jokey place yes.
What used to be one of the greatest civilizations and educational centres, reduced to this.

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate; sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives.


This is the teachings of your beloved Ayatollah Khomeini (rot in pieces) in a book he wrote - Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, 1990

And lets not act like religion had nothing to do with it.
Even beloved Mohammed said that 'thighing' children is good/acceptable/not haram.

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Postby Dohplaydat » January 11th, 2020, 12:48 pm

Blaze d Chalice wrote:Iran is a jokey place yes.
What used to be one of the greatest civilizations and educational centres, reduced to this.

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate; sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives.


This is the teachings of your beloved Ayatollah Khomeini (rot in pieces) in a book he wrote - Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, 1990

And lets not act like religion had nothing to do with it.
Even beloved Mohammed said that 'thighing' children is good/acceptable/not haram.


Iranians are brilliant, and the women are gorgeous. It's their screwed up regime has the place so. They would have been a world power, rivaling economies of France and Germany if not for the Islamic Revolution.

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Postby maj. tom » January 11th, 2020, 12:56 pm

Desert people with desert laws, but want to live in the 21st century with the accompanying technology, without even evolving their social structure to match the power it would yield.
Those rules were made for tribal camel molesters who live in isolated nowhere with no water and agriculture. Islamic holy scriptures were written specifically to give tribes survival skills for extreme life in the desert.

What is most puzzling is how come Muslim people just don't question that cockandbull story about Muhammed flying to heaven on a unicorn and given the written word... that only he witnessed btw... and all that drug induced nonsense? They stand every Friday together in cult worship and repeat this retarded story and then actually believe it.

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Postby fokhan_96 » January 11th, 2020, 1:12 pm

You seem upset.
maj. tom wrote:Desert people with desert laws, but want to live in the 21st century with the accompanying technology, without even evolving their social structure to match the power it would yield.
Those rules were made for tribal camel molesters who live in isolated nowhere with no water and agriculture. Islamic holy scriptures were written specifically to give tribes survival skills for extreme life in the desert.

What is most puzzling is how come Muslim people just don't question that cockandbull story about Muhammed flying to heaven on a unicorn and given the written word... that only he witnessed btw... and all that drug induced nonsense? They stand every Friday together in cult worship and repeat this retarded story and then actually believe it.

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Postby maj. tom » January 11th, 2020, 1:16 pm

and you seem cognitive dissonant enough to reply with all your wit and thus bypass said cognitive affliction.
It's ok, life is hard enough as it is. There, now let's not :agrue:

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Postby Dizzy28 » January 11th, 2020, 2:22 pm

And well the US inadvertently caused the Revolution by installing the Shah. Their meddling sometimes causes more harm than good
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Blaze d Chalice wrote:Iran is a jokey place yes.
What used to be one of the greatest civilizations and educational centres, reduced to this.

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate; sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives.


This is the teachings of your beloved Ayatollah Khomeini (rot in pieces) in a book he wrote - Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, 1990

And lets not act like religion had nothing to do with it.
Even beloved Mohammed said that 'thighing' children is good/acceptable/not haram.


Iranians are brilliant, and the women are gorgeous. It's their screwed up regime has the place so. They would have been a world power, rivaling economies of France and Germany if not for the Islamic Revolution.

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Postby fokhan_96 » January 11th, 2020, 4:11 pm

I have no idea what u said but u still seem upset.
maj. tom wrote:and you seem cognitive dissonant enough to reply with all your wit and thus bypass said cognitive affliction.
It's ok, life is hard enough as it is. There, now let's not :agrue:

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Postby maj. tom » January 11th, 2020, 4:13 pm

:| i am upset today. Soothe me with a ukulele Tropical song.

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Postby Blaze d Chalice » January 11th, 2020, 4:48 pm

Both the USA/UK had their part to play.
Not saying that the Shah was good.
He was a puppet while much of Iran's oil/wealth was not going towards the citizens, (similar to Rowlee)
and he also had a 'Gestapo' but the people didn't have to adopt that backward cult beliefs.

But how frail and insecure must you be, to want to remove women's right to vote and make it the law to cover their hair, while at the same time going in detail about how "raping and sodomising babies is OK as long as you don't cause permanent damage?"

Khomeini didn't like the population being 'westernised' but saw this ^ as a better choice?
How can you have a special 'morality police force' when those are your morals?

Iranians are brilliant, and the women are gorgeous. It's their screwed up regime has the place so. They would have been a world power, rivaling economies of France and Germany if not for the Islamic Revolution.


Yes I agree. Many educated people who left before the Islamic Devolution never returned to Iran.
And seeing almost 40 years have passed, a lot of people who were born in that time grew up under those conditions and so have their children so for them it is the norm. Not that they agree with it. At least the women try to fight back and not bend over like saudi.

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Postby bluefete » January 11th, 2020, 8:33 pm

LOL. Not really, eh. It was easy to see what happened when the Iranians did a very early cover up from day one.

My point, however, is that 176 people needlessly died because Trump saw it fit to kill an Iranian in Iraqi territory. But it is no biggie because there were no Americans on the plane. Canadians and Ukrainians are expendable.

Back in the day, the CIA would do covert operations to kill an Iranian in Iraq. Today, it is all over the news. Of course, as long as no American lives are lost.

This is not over yet.

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Postby paid_influencer » January 11th, 2020, 8:58 pm

blue, the American action was to project power in that part of the world against forces plotting against them. If it were a covert action, the diplomatic effect would not be the same. If they did nothing, the diplomatic effect would be worse.

The result of the crisis is a more clearly defined line the in the sand. Long-term, we are all safer for it.

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