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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby sMASH » February 5th, 2020, 7:30 pm

well, u see that sh!t this government doing, that is what will let it come here. i actually defended their measures, but they not upholding it.

i am dissappointed, but not surprised. it would have been an easy road for us to prevent it from coming here, as opposed to treating with people when they reach.

if they choose the hard way, gears up, this carnival time will be perilous

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby rspann » February 5th, 2020, 7:30 pm

Two Chinese looking people now sit down next to me in Miami Airport. The woman cough as she sit down. I get up and move one time. I don't want to know if she's Japanese , Korean , Filipino or otherwise.

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Postby rspann » February 5th, 2020, 7:40 pm

The one from arima came in the day before they passed the law and had it assented by the prez so nothing was in place as yet.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby redmanjp » February 5th, 2020, 10:05 pm

No excuse. They have an Advanced Passenger Information System right? They should know who would have come in before the ban and immediately quarantine them.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby speedmelter » February 5th, 2020, 11:58 pm

something is up with this virus. local chinese people have been buying out all of the face masks from our local pharmacies to send abroad to their relatives in china. I am talking about they ask how many boxes of mask the pharmacies have and they take all.

some of those masks we get are actually manufactured in china and taiwan... so there must either be a shortage across there or its very expensive or inaccessible for their people. one can only imagine the state of their country right now.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Miktay » February 6th, 2020, 1:46 am

We’re real Wuhan corona virus figures accidentally released? Maybe.

The Taiwan news explains...

Tencent may have accidentally leaked real data on Wuhan virus deaths
Tencent briefly lists 154,023 infections and 24,589 deaths from Wuhan coronavirus.

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — As many experts question the veracity of China's statistics for the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, Tencent over the weekend seems to have inadvertently released what is potentially the actual number of infections and deaths, which were astronomically higher than official figures.

On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker," showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.

The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300. Most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.

Moments later, Tencent updated the numbers to reflect the government's "official" numbers that day. Netizens noticed that Tencent has on at least three occasions posted extremely high numbers, only to quickly lower them to government-approved statistics.

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https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

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Postby Gladiator » February 6th, 2020, 6:11 am

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby aaron17 » February 6th, 2020, 9:45 am

So we are unsure if our country has the virus...seems legit.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby MaxPower » February 6th, 2020, 10:19 am

Stop scorning the Chinese,

Trinis should be the last people to scorn anyone.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby hydroep » February 6th, 2020, 11:51 am

Who needs Black Ops, just blame it on the virus...:|

And he was only 34 eh...not in the most vulnerable of groups.

Coronavirus 'kills Chinese whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang'

A Chinese doctor who tried to issue the first warnings about the deadly coronavirus outbreak has died of the infection, Chinese media say.

Li Wenliang was working as an ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital when he sent out a warning to fellow medics on 30 December.

Police then visited him to tell him to stop, as authorities tried to keep the news under wraps.

The virus has now killed more than 560 people and infected 28,000 in China.

The coronavirus causes severe acute respiratory infection and symptoms usually start with a fever, followed by a dry cough. Most people infected are likely to fully recover - just as they would from a flu.

What is Li Wenliang's story?

The ophthalmologist posted his story on the Weibo site from a hospital bed a month after sending out his initial warning.

Dr Li, 34, had noticed seven cases of a virus that he thought looked like Sars - the virus that led to a global epidemic in 2003.

On 30 December he sent a message to fellow doctors in a chat group warning them to wear protective clothing to avoid infection.

Four days later he was summoned to the Public Security Bureau where he was told to sign a letter. In the letter he was accused of "making false comments" that had "severely disturbed the social order".

He was one of eight people who police said were being investigated for "spreading rumours"

Local authorities later apologised to Dr Li.

In his Weibo post he describes how on 10 January he started coughing, the next day he had a fever and two days later he was in hospital. He was diagnosed with the coronavirus on 30 January.

A number of posts on Chinese social media sites have expressed grief over his death...


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 6th, 2020, 12:06 pm

now that is messed up

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Dizzy28 » February 6th, 2020, 12:47 pm

Suspicious death is suspicious!!

Don't f with the programme!!

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby FrankChag » February 6th, 2020, 12:54 pm

Apparently, this ship just dropped tourists in POS
Happened to be in POS and walking by a few of them this morning
Are these ppl being guaranteed?

some FB person said it was 1000's passengers.. unconfirmed.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby maj. tom » February 6th, 2020, 3:44 pm

They come from China?

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Postby Dizzy28 » February 6th, 2020, 4:05 pm

That's the MSC Preziosa. Its on a Southern Caribbean circuit originating from Martinique. MSC cruises primarily serve Europeans from France, Germany and Netherlands. Its previous port of call was St Georges, Grenada.

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Postby matr1x » February 6th, 2020, 5:54 pm

Can't wait for the super pandemic

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 6th, 2020, 6:39 pm

they make a real out with that attempted cover up yes
the fishy smell suddenly getting stronger

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Postby 88sins » February 6th, 2020, 6:42 pm

Curtms wrote:https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-06-20-intl-hnk/index.html

someting tellin me Li's death may not have been caused solely by having contracted the virus.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby FrankChag » February 6th, 2020, 7:23 pm

maj. tom wrote:They come from China?


I'd like to know that too. [if any passengers passed through]

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby paid_influencer » February 6th, 2020, 7:31 pm

think of a cruise ship as a big soup where people and viruses mix around in

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Dohplaydat » February 6th, 2020, 8:49 pm

I don't believe in most conspiracy theories, but there are a few things that seem fishy:

1. While person to person spread has occurred, there has been no outbreak outside of China. If the R0 really was 2-3, then by now somewhere outside of China they'd be a mini-explosion of cases. Taiwan to Japap has between 15-45 cases indicating very tiny outbreaks, but nothing compared to what's happening in China. Is it affecting Asian people (with certain genes) more?

2. The situation in China, in Hubei, is out of control. I'm wondering if the disease is spreading from person to person or if there is some other cause. If it's person to person, it means it reached critical mass to grow out of control (happens and has been simulated), but it is really fishy that is it not happening nearly as bad elsewhere.

3. The case for there being many more cases is probably correct, but how much really we don't know for sure. But if you look at the graphs, it is increasing almost linearly. Almost as if, they're testing X amount daily and getting 0.Y * X daily where Y is close to 1.

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Postby killercow » February 6th, 2020, 8:52 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:That's the MSC Preziosa. Its on a Southern Caribbean circuit originating from Martinique. MSC cruises primarily serve Europeans from France, Germany and Netherlands. Its previous port of call was St Georges, Grenada.

And on Monday we have the Caribbean Princess arriving from Miami also dropping 1000s of passengers into POS.

FrankChag wrote:Apparently, this ship just dropped tourists in POS
Happened to be in POS and walking by a few of them this morning
Are these ppl being guaranteed?

some FB person said it was 1000's passengers.. unconfirmed.

Now here's something interesting to note. The infected boat mentioned in the vid below (the Diamond Princess)
hydroep wrote:

is actually a sister ship of the Caribbean Princess (both of which are under the Princess Cruise Line). The Caribbean Princess is arriving bright and early Monday morning btw.

paid_influencer wrote:think of a cruise ship as a big soup where people and viruses mix around in

And to add to this. That same Caribbean Princess is also coming back bright and early again on Carnival Monday. And even bigger potential soup!

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 6th, 2020, 8:56 pm

I found #3 very fishy, it really sounds like they just can’t test fast enough and almost every day the numbers dead go up into the next hundred.

Dohplaydat wrote:I don't believe in most conspiracy theories, but there are a few things that seem fishy:

1. While person to person spread has occurred, there has been no outbreak outside of China. If the R0 really was 2-3, then by now somewhere outside of China they'd be a mini-explosion of cases. Taiwan to Japap has between 15-45 cases indicating very tiny outbreaks, but nothing compared to what's happening in China. Is it affecting Asian people (with certain genes) more?

2. The situation in China, in Hubei, is out of control. I'm wondering if the disease is spreading from person to person or if there is some other cause. If it's person to person, it means it reached critical mass to grow out of control (happens and has been simulated), but it is really fishy that is it not happening nearly as bad elsewhere.

3. The case for there being many more cases is probably correct, but how much really we don't know for sure. But if you look at the graphs, it is increasing almost linearly. Almost as if, they're testing X amount daily and getting 0.Y * X daily where Y is close to 1.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 6th, 2020, 8:56 pm

it will be at 31,000 tonight

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Devourment » February 6th, 2020, 9:14 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:it will be at 31,000 tonight

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Source: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6


That linear increase is in fact due to the same number of tests being carried out daily. Not a conspiracy theory just reality.

And yes there are always more cases than we can test for, that's not abnormal.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Dohplaydat » February 6th, 2020, 9:18 pm

Devourment wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:it will be at 31,000 tonight

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Source: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps ... 7b48e9ecf6


That linear increase is in fact due to the same number of tests being carried out daily. Not a conspiracy theory just reality.

And yes there are always more cases than we can test for, that's not abnormal.


So does this mean the growth is exponential as you'd expect in an outbreaks? The number of tests kits is limiting us from viewing the actual scale of it's spread. But what can we infer?

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby paid_influencer » February 6th, 2020, 9:18 pm

from 2,000 infected to 30,000 infected in 2 weeks. :o

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