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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Ben_spanna » February 10th, 2020, 8:38 am

Gladiator wrote:Some researcher released a white paper saying that this virus can live on a surface for up to 9 days. How is that even possible... That's why the videos of the Chinese fumigating everything make sense.

More and more I believe the Russians are correct and this is a man-made virus and not no freak of nature bat/snake market virus

I mean if the Chinese forcing quarantine and taking full control how the hell 2500+ still getting it everyday?


Why is that so hard to understand, certain virus can live on surfaces for WEEKS like the Infamous Norovirus that normally infects cruises..... even gastroenteritis lives on surfaces for long periods, the only way to prevent yourself from getting these sicknesses is by washing your hands thoroughly all the time.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby 88sins » February 10th, 2020, 9:22 am

IF the "leaked" numbers are accurate this virus may be of some benefit to China wrt population control & their aging population, since it mostly severe in the elderly & extremely young. & we all should be aware by now of China's stance on population control with the one child policy that is still in force today even though it has been adjusted to allow for two children per family in certain situations.
For quite some time now, there has been concern that there are more elderly than ever in China & that the ratio of elderly & retired persons to working age adults currently stands at a minimum of 4:1, but in many instances it's as high as 8:1, & this is becoming a serious problem.


I just curious if the Chinese government does have or would actually get a handle on this thing within the next few months, because too many aspects of this situation going by "official" statements, figures & actions not making sense.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby aaron17 » February 10th, 2020, 11:40 am

Ahhhh yesss..the bill gates statement sounding legit now.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Miktay » February 10th, 2020, 12:16 pm

Where there’s smoke...there’s fire...but what?
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TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — Data from Windy.com on Sunday (Feb. 9) showed heightened levels of sulfur dioxide around Wuhan, the epicenter of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV), causing some to speculate that it is a sign of mass cremations of victims of the deadly disease.

On Sunday, images of Windy.com maps started to appear on social media, showing an alarmingly high level of sulfur dioxide being released, with no other city in China showing similar concentrations with the exception of Chongqing. Over the past few weeks, the death toll from the Wuhan virus has continued to mount, and as the true numbers appear to be suppressed, there have been accounts and anecdotal evidence of disproportionate use of crematoria in Wuhan.

Intelewave on Sunday shared an image on Twitter showing sulfur dioxide levels soaring to 1700ug/m^3 on a map of Wuhan on Windy.com, far above the danger level of 80ug/m^3. Intelewave listed a few possible explanations for this increase in emissions, with the first being a power plant.

However, none of China's numerous other power plants were seen emitting such large numbers that day. The second possibility proposed was the burning of refuse and animal carcasses, but the author questioned why such burning would be taking place as opposed to the standard practice of burying garbage.

The third possibility proposed was that: "Dead bodies are being burned on the outskirts of the city, the death numbers are way higher than the CCP is letting on about, and things are really, really bad." One netizen even calculated that it would take the burning of 14,000 bodies to reach such a high level of SO2.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3874013

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 10th, 2020, 12:35 pm

this smelling just like how the world found out about the chernobyl disaster

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby VexXx Dogg » February 10th, 2020, 1:59 pm

BBC is saying "please don't feed the trolls"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51429400

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Ben_spanna » February 10th, 2020, 2:30 pm

well if one of those cruise ships keep registering New and new cases while all passengers have been in isolation then duhh, its got to be the ships main air conditioner system thats spreading it.. which is a scary thought, if that same applies to airplanes and anyone infected on a flight..........

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby hydroep » February 10th, 2020, 4:02 pm

UK update: 2 health workers have contracted the virus. Coach drivers transporting the latest arrivals from China to the quarantine facilities were spotted NOT wearing any face masks...:|

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby toyota2nr » February 10th, 2020, 5:11 pm

The BBC is calling it conspiracy theory but all the facts seem to line up. It definitely seems man made.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 10th, 2020, 6:03 pm

what nobody seems to be asking is why they spend all that money to build huge emergency hospital just so

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby 88sins » February 10th, 2020, 6:28 pm

pugboy wrote:what nobody seems to be asking is why they spend all that money to build huge emergency hospital just so

this man gets it
cuz I recall when the infected figure was 2000-2500, they built one that they said could house 11000 patients & had plans for building 3 more just like it in the coming weeks.
so yuh really need 44000 beds for 2000 cases?

If this scenario was a human being it's name would be SumTing Wong, cuz it eh adding up right

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby pugboy » February 10th, 2020, 7:03 pm

1000 now

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby redmanjp » February 10th, 2020, 8:18 pm

incubation period now 24 days?- so we have to quarantine longer now?



50% of transmissions occurring without symptoms;
virus spreading through aerosolization? :shock:


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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby shogun » February 10th, 2020, 11:12 pm

pugboy wrote:this smelling just like how the world found out about the chernobyl disaster


And China arguably even more secretive.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Devourment » February 11th, 2020, 3:27 am

For seven straight days the coronavirus infections have declined according to the China Daily.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Redman » February 11th, 2020, 6:43 am

pugboy wrote:1000 now

Infected at 43k
Recoveries 4200

Deaths consistently at 2-3%
Recoveries at 10% and climbing faster than infections and deaths.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Redman » February 11th, 2020, 6:44 am

pugboy wrote:what nobody seems to be asking is why they spend all that money to build huge emergency hospital just so


It’s called the Trinidad model.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Phone Surgeon » February 11th, 2020, 7:17 am

Redman wrote:
pugboy wrote:what nobody seems to be asking is why they spend all that money to build huge emergency hospital just so


It’s called the Trinidad model.



they have to show the world they very serious about fighting the virus and containing it

last year the revenue from canton fair was 30billion USD

this year it looking like canton fair cancelled
no one want to go china

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby hydroep » February 11th, 2020, 8:19 am

Yuh know things bad when they start manipulating statistics. And Japan apparently involved in the chupidness too as the situation on the Cruise ship seems to be deteriorating...:|

China changes counting scheme to lower Wuhan virus numbers
China stops counting confirmed asymptomatic patients in Wuhan virus statistics
By Keoni Everington, Taiwan News, Staff Writer
2020/02/11 11:23

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The daily reports of Wuhan virus infections in China will likely begin to drop as the government has decided to stop counting patients who test positive for the disease but do not exhibit symptoms as "confirmed cases."

In a notice issued by China's National Health Commission (NHC) on Feb. 6, it wrote that the classification of new Wuhan virus infections will be divided into four categories: "suspected cases," "clinically diagnosed cases," "confirmed cases," and "positive tests." Among these, "positive tests" refers to "asymptomatic infected patients" who test positive for the disease but have no symptoms.

There is also a clear stipulation in the official document stating that "If the reported 'asymptomatic infected patient' has clinical manifestations, their status shall be revised to 'confirmed case' in a timely manner" (highlighted text in Tweet below). This indicates that even if a person tests positive for the disease but does not exhibit any symptoms, they will no longer be included in the daily infection reports.

After the government edict was released, the Health Commission of Heilongjiang Province reduced its number of confirmed cases by 14 on Feb. 8, causing heated debate among the public. The commission's official explanation was that according to the NHC, asymptomatic infections are no longer to be included among the list of confirmed cases.

After the NHC revised its standard for counting confirmed cases, Chinese state-run media mouthpiece Beijing News cited "the WHO and experts" as saying that although there are many cases of asymptomatic infections in China, in general, they are not the main carriers of the disease and their transmission capacity is weak. The article concluded that although the likelihood that asymptomatic patients can transmit the virus is weak, they should still be placed under quarantine.

However, according to a report by Kyodo News, researchers at Hokkaido University have found that 50 percent of cases of human-to-human transmission occurs when an infected person is not yet exhibiting symptoms. According to their findings, the incubation period from infection to symptoms is about five days on average.

An analysis of 26 cases from China, Thailand, and the U.S. found that more than half of the patients developed pneumonia symptoms within five days of being exposed to asymptomatic cases. The team thus concluded that more than 50 percent of the patients in the study had been infected by others during the incubation period.

According to a study by renowned Chinese pulmonologist Zhong Nanshan (鍾南山), the average incubation period of the virus is 3 days, but it can take as little as one day and as long as 24 days for a patient to develop symptoms. Only 43.8 percent of patients exhibited fever at an early stage, suggesting that body temperature cannot be viewed as a major factor in diagnosis.


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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby maj. tom » February 11th, 2020, 9:14 am

I think within 3 months the CDC should have a vaccine ready.
Once China continues to quarantine itself and the West remains vigilant and strict, we good.

Communist China can fake all the numbers they want; they have murdered millions and millions of their citizens in their history without blinking through famine and genocide, once the communist lie stays in place. I only wishing that this would be the start of the fall of evil communism in China. Many would have to die. But at least it will be what the people want. Things quite different this rounds compared to 1989 Tiananmen Square. People in China have the internet and are recording and exposing the lies and murders to themselves. Back in 1989, it was completely erased from history and memory, nothing happened there when you ask the Chinese people.

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Postby Devourment » February 11th, 2020, 9:25 am

maj. tom wrote:I think within 3 months the CDC should have a vaccine ready.
Once China continues to quarantine itself and the West remains vigilant and strict, we good.

Communist China can fake all the numbers they want; they have murdered millions and millions of their citizens in their history without blinking through famine and genocide, once the communist lie stays in place. I only wishing that this would be the start of the fall of evil communism in China. Many would have to die. But at least it will be what the people want. Things quite different this rounds compared to 1989 Tiananmen Square. People in China have the internet and are recording and exposing the lies and murders to themselves. Back in 1989, it was completely erased from history and memory, nothing happened there when you ask the Chinese people.


I wish it were, but China's government isn't going to fall anytime soon and there'll never be an effective revolution.

Most Chinese people are so oblivious to their lack of freedoms and lack of human rights, that it'll take at least a generation or two for things to be set right.

Look at Russia, most Russians hate Putin, hate the lack of freedom etc. But guess what? Just like China their day to day life isn't that bad and it is improving.

Same goes for trinidad, we take the abuse and sh*t from PNM continuously because while crime bad and cost of living is high, things aren't that bad. We're still mostly happy. Yet as an outsider (been in and out of TT for 18 years now), it's glaring to see how much we improved under the PP and Panday and regressed under PNM. The cognitive dissonance to be blind to it is astounding at times.

Back to Coronavirus, I'm still surprised they it's been almost a month since this outbreak started and it still hasn't had any outbreaks outside of China aside from the cruise ship. This is good news ppl, especially given the timeline.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Ben_spanna » February 11th, 2020, 12:26 pm

Nissan is the latest car maker to temporarily shut one of its factories as it can't get parts from China.

The firm will halt production for two days at a plant in Japan which makes the Serena and X-Trail models.

Global car brands are facing similar disruptions as much of China's manufacturing sector remains locked down due to the deadly coronavirus.

Hyundai temporarily closed its factories in South Korea last week due to a shortage of Chinese parts.

In fact, many of the world's biggest car makers are dealing with dwindling supplies as factories across China remain closed.

China is the world's manufacturing powerhouse and a major part of the global supply chain for the automotive industry, making key parts and components. Hubei, where the coronavirus outbreak first started, is a major car manufacturing hub.

China launches coronavirus 'close contact' app
Fiat warns of risk to Europe car plant
Why much of 'the world's factory' remains closed

Last week, Fiat Chrysler said it was considering halting production at one of its European plants due to difficulty in sourcing parts from China. It joins a long list of car brands that rely on Chinese exports.

''It only takes one missing part to stop a line," said Mike Dunne, a consultant to the car industry in Asia.

Many factories and car plants were due to reopen on Monday after an extended Chinese New Year break. Some restarted production, but others remained closed due to local authority restrictions and lack of workers. Nissan expects to restart production in China on 17 February.

In a statement, Nissan said: "Due to supply shortages of parts from China, Nissan Kyushu in Japan will carry out temporary production adjustments on February 14 and 17." It stressed there was no impact on its other Japanese factories.

Nissan is part of a French-Japanese strategic partnership that includes Renault and Mitsubishi.

Wonders what foods will be in shortage soon as a result of this too!

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Dizzy28 » February 11th, 2020, 12:51 pm

Virus now has an official name - Covid 19

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51466362

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World war C?

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Postby adnj » February 11th, 2020, 1:52 pm

Ben_spanna wrote:well if one of those cruise ships keep registering New and new cases while all passengers have been in isolation then duhh, its got to be the ships main air conditioner system thats spreading it.. which is a scary thought, if that same applies to airplanes and anyone infected on a flight..........
CORONAVIRUS COULD SPREAD THROUGH PIPES IN BUILDINGS, OFFICIALS FEAR

By Kashmira Gander On 2/11/20 at 4:41 AM EST

HEALTH HONG KONG

Over 100 residents have been evacuated from an apartment building in Hong Kong after two people fell ill with the deadly new coronavirus, stoking fears 2019-nCoV could be spread through pipes.

Hong Kong's Centre for Health Protection said the two sick people lived on separate floors at Hong Mei House on the Cheung Hong Estate in the New Territories area of Hong Kong, The New York Times reported.

Residents were removed from the building after an unsealed pipe was found in the bathroom of one of the patients. The unnamed 62-year-old woman lives 10 floors below an occupant who fell ill before her.

Sophia Chan, Hong Kong's health secretary, said four additional tenants living in three separate units had developed coronavirus symptoms. The symptoms of 2019-nCoV include a fever, dry cough, shortness of breath, and trouble breathing. Residents were removed from a total of 23 units.

According to the AFP news agency, health officials dressed in masks and white overalls arrived at the 35-story apartment block, home to 3,000 people, in the early hours of Tuesday morning. The 35 flats were linked by the same drainage system.

The residents were relocated as a precautionary measure, AFP reported officials saying. Wong Ka-hing of the Centre for Health Protection told journalists: "We are not sure what was the exact route of transmission.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby Gladiator » February 11th, 2020, 2:57 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Virus now has an official name - Covid 19

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51466362


WuFLU sounded a whole lot better...

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Dominica to donate face masks to China
Feb 11, 2020

The Dominica government says it will be donating 10,000 masks to China as the country fights the spread of the coronavirus (2019-nCoV) outbreak that has killed more than 1,000 people in the Asian country.

“The government of Dominica wishes to say to all nations that this is not a time for nations to take decisions in an effort to isolate the People’s Republic of China,” he said, adding that his administration “in a show of gratitude and concern…will make a donation of 10,000 face masks to the government of the People’s Republic of China.”
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“We say to our steadfast friends, the People’s Republic of China, that Dominica stands by your side in this hour of great difficulty.”

Health Minister Dr Irvin McIntyre told Parliament that the island would soon be able to carry out testing for the virus with the assistance of the US-based Centre for Disease Control.

“We will be the only country in the Caribbean that can test for coronavirus. No other country in the Caribbean can do this,” he said, noting that Barbados is also trying to get this done.
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He said the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) on Friday gave the island 80 per cent preparedness to deal with the virus, adding “this is much higher than many other OECS (Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States).”...


https://buzz-caribbean.com/article/dominica-to-donate-face-masks-to-china/

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Postby sMASH » February 11th, 2020, 6:54 pm

hydroep wrote:
Dominica to donate face masks to China
Feb 11, 2020

The Dominica government says it will be donating 10,000 masks to China as the country fights the spread of the coronavirus (2019-nCoV) outbreak that has killed more than 1,000 people in the Asian country.

“The government of Dominica wishes to say to all nations that this is not a time for nations to take decisions in an effort to isolate the People’s Republic of China,” he said, adding that his administration “in a show of gratitude and concern…will make a donation of 10,000 face masks to the government of the People’s Republic of China.”
Image result for face mask

“We say to our steadfast friends, the People’s Republic of China, that Dominica stands by your side in this hour of great difficulty.”

Health Minister Dr Irvin McIntyre told Parliament that the island would soon be able to carry out testing for the virus with the assistance of the US-based Centre for Disease Control.

“We will be the only country in the Caribbean that can test for coronavirus. No other country in the Caribbean can do this,” he said, noting that Barbados is also trying to get this done.
Image result for coronavirus testing

He said the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) on Friday gave the island 80 per cent preparedness to deal with the virus, adding “this is much higher than many other OECS (Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States).”...


https://buzz-caribbean.com/article/dominica-to-donate-face-masks-to-china/


so like what, return to sender?

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - Wuhan, China strain

Postby hydroep » February 11th, 2020, 7:09 pm

They hadda show concern or else de "Foreign Aid" might dry up.

Sh!tkicker make he fair share of "arrangements" with dem so I waiting to see what assistance he going to give. Next thing you hear they commandeer the Couva Hospital...after all is Chinese Funds build dat...:|

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