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Re: Novel Coronavirus - New name "COVID 19"

Postby maj. tom » March 5th, 2020, 8:25 pm

why..... you can't just read and follow the CDC guidelines that have been posted 99 times in this thread?
why you panicking like this for? what is this continuous nonsense about touching the hand sanitizer bottle you only talking about? When you press the bottle and use it your hands are now clean, don't touch it again. Why you touching the bottle again?

Anything higher than 70% alcohol, including Puncheon, is safe enough if saturated for at least 10 seconds and then left to air dry. Hence the gel medium in hand-sanitizers to prolong alcohol contact with your skin. Methylated spirit is high % ethanol with methanol to denature it to stop people from drinking it. Splashing and rubbing the alcohol on your hands won't necessarily disinfect them because wet contact time has to be more than 10 seconds. Some microbial species require up to 20 minutes of soaking in 70% ethanol to disinfect!
https://www.cdc.gov/infectioncontrol/gu ... mical.html


So just follow the CDC rules.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tment.html

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Postby aaron17 » March 5th, 2020, 8:31 pm

Lets say ...its a carry along hand sanitizer.

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Postby maj. tom » March 5th, 2020, 8:36 pm

wam yuh only have one hand? Squeeze into one open hand, put away the bottle with the other hand, then rub your hands together. Yuh jocking with the hand sanitizer or wuh?

https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/show-me ... tizer.html

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Postby paid_influencer » March 5th, 2020, 8:41 pm

CDC actually recommends soap & water over sanitizer. I myself doubt the benefit of sanitizing for regular day to day use. It's better than nothing of course, but i feel it gives people an overly confident idea of how clean their hands are. you really should be going for the soap and water a few times a day at least now regardless of how much you use sanitizer.

https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/show-me ... tizer.html

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Postby redmanjp » March 5th, 2020, 9:00 pm

the sanitiser is if u can't reach a sink at the moment. so wash hands each time u go to the bathroom (should have always been doing this) but sanitizer while at your desk or in a meeting or in a taxi

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Postby wickedtuna » March 5th, 2020, 9:35 pm

All these soaps aren't created equally some of these businesses places and offices have a watered down version which seems like the type sold on the hi way but even more watered down

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Postby aaron17 » March 6th, 2020, 3:39 am

maj. tom wrote:wam yuh only have one hand? Squeeze into one open hand, put away the bottle with the other hand, then rub your hands together. Yuh jocking with the hand sanitizer or wuh?

https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/show-me ... tizer.html
U rel jokey yes.i will provide less contamination to the bottle....less likely to spread/ contaminate anything else.

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Postby 88sins » March 6th, 2020, 9:20 am

aaron17 wrote:
maj. tom wrote:wam yuh only have one hand? Squeeze into one open hand, put away the bottle with the other hand, then rub your hands together. Yuh jocking with the hand sanitizer or wuh?

https://www.cdc.gov/handwashing/show-me ... tizer.html
U rel jokey yes.i will provide less contamination to the bottle....less likely to spread/ contaminate anything else.

well if u really want to avoid contaminating the bottle & pump, (& idk why you would) use a little more than you usually would and wipe down the bottle & pump with the little extra. or wipe down the bottle with a paper towel soaked in rubbing alcohol.


but there's really no need to beat up about sterilizing the outside of the bottle

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - New name "COVID 19"

Postby Phone Surgeon » March 6th, 2020, 9:32 am

Time for all the grandparents to share up the land and do their wills.

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Postby K74T » March 6th, 2020, 9:47 am

and for fadda in law to stop fighting for benz

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Postby nemisis » March 6th, 2020, 10:35 am

That go happen after them pics of the wife reach not before
K74T wrote:and for fadda in law to stop fighting for benz

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - New name "COVID 19"

Postby hydroep » March 6th, 2020, 2:47 pm

Certain UK officials saying they expect 80% of the population to get some form of the virus. For them "containment" eh stopping shyte, it just slowing the rate of spread.

Given that expected infection rate does containment make sense at all? Why not just let it run its course as fast as possible instead of dragging things out?

It seems they're afraid of the heath services being overwhelmed in a fairly short space of time if they don't manage the infection rate effectively, so they're willing to sacrifice citizens' convenience and the economy in the process...:|

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - New name "COVID 19"

Postby redmanjp » March 6th, 2020, 3:20 pm

the economy & health systems will be impacted anyway if they let the virus run rampant as it is more lethal (30 times more than flu) which means more ppl ending up in hospital. saving lives not worth it?

the containment they are doing probably not enough for this virus- it is a sneaky virus- it can spread without symptoms for a whole 2 weeks so u would have to isolate everyone who travelled somewhere as well as all their contacts (which could be untraceable if they visited public places or used public transport) regardless of symptoms

bill gates said this virus could be that once in a century pathogen, like the 1918 spanish flu, which had a 2% fatality rate :shock:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/28/bill-gates-says-coronavirus-may-be-once-in-a-century-pathogen.html
Bill Gates: Coronavirus may be ‘once-in-a-century pathogen we’ve been worried about’
PUBLISHED FRI, FEB 28 20202:29 PM EST UPDATED FRI, FEB 28 20203:47 PM EST

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Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said the coronavirus is starting to behave like the “once-in-a-century pathogen we’ve been worried about.”
Gates also pointed out COVID-19′s current predicted fatality rate is higher than that of the 1957 influenza pandemic, which killed an estimated 66,000 people in the U.S.
“I hope it’s not that bad, but we should assume it will be until we know otherwise,” Gates said in an article.

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Billionaire and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said the coronavirus that has killed at least 2,859 people and infected more than 83,700 globally may be the “once-in-a-century pathogen we’ve been worried about.”

“I hope it’s not that bad, but we should assume it will be until we know otherwise,” Gates wrote in an article published Friday in The New England Journal of Medicine.

Gates and his wife, Melinda, founded The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in 2000 to help improve world health and combat extreme poverty. The foundation announced Feb. 5 that it would donate $100 million to help find treatments and expand testing for the virus, particularly for poorer populations.

According to Gates, COVID-19 poses a serious threat to the world because it’s far more deadly and contagious than many other deadly viruses.

“First, it can kill healthy adults in addition to elderly people with existing health problems,” he wrote. “Second, Covid-19 is transmitted quite efficiently. The average infected person spreads the disease to two or three others — an exponential rate of increase.” World health leaders say the disease is spread by people who are mildly ill or don’t show any symptoms at all, making it harder to contain and more contagious than other types of viruses.


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The mortality rate is “many times more severe than typical seasonal influenza,” Gates said. The World Health Organization said the mortality rate of COVID-19 can differ, ranging from 0.7% to up to 4%, depending on the quality of the health-care system where it’s treated. Gates said that its current average estimated fatality rate of around 1% places it somewhere between the 1957 Asian flu pandemic (0.6%) that killed 1.1 million people and the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic (2%) that killed 50 million around the world, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Gates is sounding the alarm to world leaders to try to help slow the spread of the virus, calling on developed countries to help less wealthy nations prepare.

Many low- and middle-income countries’ “health systems are already stretched thin, and a pathogen like the coronavirus can quickly overwhelm them,” Gates wrote. “And poorer countries have little political or economic leverage, given wealthier countries’ natural desire to put their own people first.”

WHO officials have echoed Gates’ concern about the virus infiltrating low- and middle-income countries with health systems that are too weak to support a potential outbreak. In January, the organization identified 13 top priority countries with direct links or high volume of travel to China, including Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ethiopia and Ghana.

This isn’t the first time Gates has warned that the world isn’t prepared for an infectious disease outbreak. He made similar remarks on the Ebola outbreak, which was declared a public health emergency of international concern by WHO. His foundation similarly donated millions of dollars to combat that disease.

Fellow billionaire and Berkshire Hathaway Chairman Warren Buffett has also called Gates his “science advisor” and added that he has discussed the coronavirus with him. Buffett said Gates was “bullish” on the long-term outlook for a universal prevention of the disease.


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Re: Novel Coronavirus - New name "COVID 19"

Postby redmanjp » March 6th, 2020, 4:09 pm

redmanjp wrote:on TTT news - You can be detained or jailed under quarantine laws if you breach isolation requirements.


https://www.looptt.com/content/6000-fine-jail-time-lying-about-sickness-resisting-quarantine
$6,000 fine, jail time for lying about sickness, resisting quarantine
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Anyone found lying to quarantine officials or resisting quarantine officials in the act of exercising their duties can be subjected to a $6,000 fine or up to six months jail time.

During a media briefing on coronavirus (COVID-19), Chief Medical Officer Roshan Parasram said the Quarantine Act provides the ‘teeth’ to allow officials to prevent people from breaching quarantine if they are found to be symptomatic (showing symptoms of the disease).

“The quarantine that we speak of is based on the Quarantine Act. There was a proclamation by the President…that added the coronavirus to the Act.”

“Before you go into quarantine it indicates the Quarantine Act and the penalties therein if you are to breach."

“If the need arises, the Minister of National Security has assured the Ministry of Health that the necessary steps through the Defence Force or the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service will be taken to have persons stationed outside of their home and guarded 24 hours a day to ensure that they stay there.”

“We can actually take you out of your home to a hospital, isolation, under the Quarantine Act if need be, as another tier of isolation.”

He said however that situation has not yet arisen and everyone has willingly complied with the quarantine.

Parasram said since the beginning of the restrictions, 20 people have been placed under quarantine, with eight people still under quarantine up to Wednesday morning.

According to a Ministry update on Thursday, to date, 26 samples were sent to the Caribbean Public Health Agency (CARPHA) for testing - all tested negative for the virus.

Parasram said 10 people were turned away from entering the country, based on the travel restrictions currently in place barring travellers from China, Iran, South Korea, Italy, Japan and Singapore.

Under the current restrictions, any Trinidad and Tobago national who arrives from a country included in the ban will be subjected to home quarantine for 14 days. Non-nationals will not be allowed to enter the country.

In January 2020 the Quarantine [2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Disease] Order, 2020 was issued by Chief Medical Officer Roshan Parasram, adding the virus to the list.

Here are three things to know under the Quarantine Act:

1. Lying to quarantine officials

Under Section 7 (1) (a) of the Quarantine Act, anyone who “refuses to answer or knowingly gives an untrue answer to any inquiry made under the authority of this Act, or intentionally withholds any information reasonably required of him by an officer or other person acting under the authority of this Act, or knowingly furnishes to any such officer or other person any information which is false” is liable on conviction to a fine of $6,000 and to imprisonment for six months.


2. Breaching quarantine

Likewise, breaching a direct quarantine order can result in possible penalties.

Under Section 7(1)(b) of the of the Act, anyone who “refuses or wilfully omits to do any act which he is required to do by this Act, or refuses or wilfully omits to carry out any lawful order, instruction or condition made, given or imposed by any officer or other person acting under the authority of this Act” is liable on conviction to a fine of $6,000 and to imprisonment for six months.


3. Resisting/bribing quarantine officials

Under Section 7(1)(c) of the act, anyone who “assaults, resists, wilfully obstructs or intimidates any officer or other person acting under the authority of this Act, or offers or gives a bribe to any officer or person in connection with his powers or duties under this Act, or being such officer or person, demands, solicits or takes a bribe in connection with his powers or duties under this Act, or otherwise obstructs the execution of this Act” is liable on conviction to a fine of $6,000 and to imprisonment for six months.

For more information on the Quarantine Act see here: https://bit.ly/2IsmeXX

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - New name "COVID 19"

Postby maj. tom » March 6th, 2020, 4:45 pm

well that's a quite ideal law eh? Looks fine on paper. But it can never work in real life. Covid-19 is here already and spreading daily and incubating and will be ready to explode soon. Expect the first few cases to be unannounced by authorities until it gets past a double digit number.

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Postby sMASH » March 6th, 2020, 4:56 pm

cant be fined if ur not detected. cant be detected if u come in illegal.

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21 positive on California Cruise ship

govt need to stop cruise ships docking here ASAP.
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Postby redmanjp » March 6th, 2020, 6:57 pm

maj. tom wrote:well that's a quite ideal law eh? Looks fine on paper. But it can never work in real life. Covid-19 is here already and spreading daily and incubating and will be ready to explode soon. Expect the first few cases to be unannounced by authorities until it gets past a double digit number.


10 days since Carnival done- 4 to go (assuming infection Carnival Tuesday). fingers crossed. once we get past this hurdle we should be ok. of course it could be mild enough that there don't go to the doctor or report it and they spread it and their contacts get their symptoms 1-2 weeks later so :roll:

we might still have to institute quarantines for smaller regions of other countries not on the banned list. eg. Washington would be first on my list- and not just if you showing symptoms, u will spread it long before u show symptoms- this is why there are outbreaks because some place waiting till u show symptoms

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Postby paid_influencer » March 6th, 2020, 6:59 pm

WH daily press briefing on Coronavirus on now (any news channel CNN, MSNBC, etc, covers just before 7:00pm).

White House officially recommending "social distancing" for vulnerable persons (particularly the elderly.)

Vice President explicitly warns elderly do not go on cruises.

Major push for more swab tests (capacity for millions of tests being prepared by monday). Point of care testing (at doctor's offices, hospitals, pharmacies, etc) not ready yet but being worked on.

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3500 people on a cruise ship off california

46 people tested so far
21 positive from those 46 tested

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/vp-penc ... virus.html

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Postby sMASH » March 6th, 2020, 7:23 pm

apparently, children (not the legal definition of being under 18, but actual little sheit monsters) are carriers of the virus, without being significantly affected. so, that means they can spread it, without being obvious.

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Postby FrankChag » March 6th, 2020, 7:27 pm

sMASH wrote:apparently, children (not the legal definition of being under 18, but actual little sheit monsters) are carriers of the virus, without being significantly affected. so, that means they can spread it, without being obvious.


Thankfully. Worried about moms though...

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Postby paid_influencer » March 6th, 2020, 9:20 pm

Here's the really scary thing. This is a new virus and we don't really know what the natural history of the virus will be. After a few weeks most people recover, but we don't know if long-term there will be implications for otherwise recovered people.

also, Italy had 49 coronavirus virus deaths in 24h.

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Postby Gladiator » March 6th, 2020, 9:35 pm

paid_influencer wrote:Here's the really scary thing. This is a new virus and we don't really know what the natural history of the virus will be. After a few weeks most people recover, but we don't know if long-term there will be implications for otherwise recovered people.

also, Italy had 49 coronavirus virus deaths in 24h.


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Postby killercow » March 6th, 2020, 9:52 pm

So I was wondering. Suppose I breach quarantine.. Yes I can be fined, remanded, brought before a court and possibly imprisoned...
BUT..
When I'm arrested are the police going to house a highly contagious man in their station even though I might be in a cell by myself? What about transportation to / from the station? Dey going to put me in the same vehicle with them? What about when I go to court? The magistrate, prosecutor and police all closing the court just for my hearing and coming in hazmat suits? What about if I am convicted? Where are they putting me? Golden Grove or Carrera? Either way I could infect / kill all the convicts (which might not be such a bad thing).

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Postby eitech » March 7th, 2020, 8:37 am

killercow wrote:So I was wondering. Suppose I breach quarantine.. Yes I can be fined, remanded, brought before a court and possibly imprisoned...
BUT..
When I'm arrested are the police going to house a highly contagious man in their station even though I might be in a cell by myself? What about transportation to / from the station? Dey going to put me in the same vehicle with them? What about when I go to court? The magistrate, prosecutor and police all closing the court just for my hearing and coming in hazmat suits? What about if I am convicted? Where are they putting me? Golden Grove or Carrera? Either way I could infect / kill all the convicts (which might not be such a bad thing).


Good point. Hopefully u get too sick and they put u in their special hospital one time with bed handcuffs. Lol

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Postby screwbash » March 7th, 2020, 10:16 am

eitech wrote:
killercow wrote:So I was wondering. Suppose I breach quarantine.. Yes I can be fined, remanded, brought before a court and possibly imprisoned...
BUT..
When I'm arrested are the police going to house a highly contagious man in their station even though I might be in a cell by myself? What about transportation to / from the station? Dey going to put me in the same vehicle with them? What about when I go to court? The magistrate, prosecutor and police all closing the court just for my hearing and coming in hazmat suits? What about if I am convicted? Where are they putting me? Golden Grove or Carrera? Either way I could infect / kill all the convicts (which might not be such a bad thing).


Good point. Hopefully u get too sick and they put u in their special hospital one time with bed handcuffs. Lol



one place yuh hadda stay away from is the bank on pension days. all dem old people in dey with the tellers and d money is definite infection. good new is less old people means nis aint will go up in a hurry, less crowd in the bank come the 1st ah d month, less old people on the buses, less old people for cedap, more vacancies in the govt service and companies general, a next plus is less old corrupted politicians in the game. i think granger is over 70, ali is 39.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » March 7th, 2020, 1:15 pm

sMASH wrote:apparently, children (not the legal definition of being under 18, but actual little sheit monsters) are carriers of the virus, without being significantly affected. so, that means they can spread it, without being obvious.

"We simply do not understand why": Coronavirus is sparing children, puzzling experts

As the novel coronavirus spreads around the globe, sickening more than 90,000 people and killing about 3,000, doctors have noticed something curious: Very few children have been diagnosed with it. And of those who have, most have had mild cases.

In China, where the outbreak started, children comprise just 2.4 percent of all reported cases of COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, a World Health Organization-China Joint Mission report from last month found. Of those, only a sliver — 2.5 percent — experienced severe symptoms, and an even tinier proportion — 0.2 percent — became critically ill. Worldwide, there have been no deaths reported so far in young children.

https://www.today.com/health/coronaviru ... hy-t175156

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - New name "COVID 19"

Postby maj. tom » March 7th, 2020, 1:28 pm

**conspiracy theories on twitter intensify**

From a virus sent by god to cleanse the earth... to a bio-weapon that was created to target specifics to shut down China.

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