COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[redmanjp]

CMO: There is a 'great risk' of anyone returning being positive.

Why the hell are we allowing so many people to return?

Stuarty bowing to pressure from the outside and well internally from lawyers

We should have been allowing RESIDENTS of Trinidad and Tobago to return all this time with mandatory 14 day quarentines. This would have avoided a huge backlog which is just building right now.

Utilize as much facilities to quarentine them and test them upon leaving. It's not rocket science.

You gonna keep people who live here out of the country till when?

we don't have unlimited facilities u know- it has to be done gradually but they are increasing the number of ppl getting exemptions to come in.

[Gladiator]

I know Roshan is a smart guy... But wouldn't it have made more sense to bring back all the outside people during the last couple months when everybody was still locked down

you have to be a special kinda dunce to believe EVERYBODY was in lockdown for the last couple of months.

Of course not yuh cornt.... but you have to be living up somebody anus to not realize that hundreds of thousands of people were not attending work, not able to mull around in malls and public spaces etc. there were much less people using public transport and frequenting banks. From Monday all that will change.

[Gladiator]

CMO: There is a 'great risk' of anyone returning being positive.

Why the hell are we allowing so many people to return?

Stuarty bowing to pressure from the outside and well internally from lawyers

We should have been allowing RESIDENTS of Trinidad and Tobago to return all this time with mandatory 14 day quarentines. This would have avoided a huge backlog which is just building right now.

Utilize as much facilities to quarentine them and test them upon leaving. It's not rocket science.

You gonna keep people who live here out of the country till when?

I hate to admit it but.... same blasted thing I saying.

Also instead of giving 1 million to invisible hotels in Tobago just pay them (the real ones that is) to be quarantine centers... they make some money in the downtime and the Govt gets a service rather than orchestrating a freebee racket.

[redmanjp]

^are u talking about tobago residents alone or trinidad residents quarantining quite there then coming to trinidad?

[Gladiator]

^are u talking about tobago residents alone or trinidad residents quarantining quite there then coming to trinidad?

Send everybody tobago nah man.... it have empty self contained rooms in all those empty hotels and guest houses and all the Tobago catering services equipped, ready and shutdown plus CAL pilots need to fly.

Simple operation.... send the flight from wherever to Tobago, quarantine for 14 days then bring them to home to Trinidad.

[DTAC]

1when a vaccine is out and that's going to be September for the latest.

What fever dream you pull that date out from ??? When and if one is discovered it has to be peer reviewed, go through human trials, then synthersised and mass produced in a large enough number to distribute to millions on every country on Earth, then get delivered to Trinidad and then have an inoculation system in place for delivery, and you dream that'll happen in September at the latest?????!!!! Even Trump never say anything that dotish.

[maj. tom]

T&T records another Covid case - No. 117
Richard Charan May 30, 2020

Hours after Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley accelerated the reopening of the country's economy, comes sobering news that Trinidad and Tobago has recorded another case of the Covid-19 coronavirus.

It is the 117th known case.

The case was confirmed this afternoon by Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh in a television interview.

It was the first positive case since April 26.
Deyalsingh confirmed the positive test.

He said it involved a family of three that returned to the country on Thursday evening and was immediately taken the Home for Football in Couva under strict quarantine protocols. They were swabbed and two tests came back negative. one was positive.

He said that the case, since it was imported, did not affect the Phase 3 measures to reopen the economy. as announced today by the Prime Minister.

He said it was a case totally under control and the cases was under quarantine.
https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/t ... 71d6a.html

[maj. tom]

So they let some people through the borders, and predictably a case comes in. How many undetected came in at that point?

As soon as they open the borders again, American Covid carriers are going to stream all over the world and create a 2nd global wave. This morning it's 105,557 dead of Covid-19 in USA, with 1.8 million cases.

What about the growing epicenter in Brazil and the Venezuelan migration connections?

[j.o.e]

So they let some people through the borders, and predictably a case comes in. How many undetected came in at that point?

As soon as they open the borders again, American Covid carriers are going to stream all over the world and create a 2nd global wave. This morning it's 105,557 dead of Covid-19 in USA, with 1.8 million cases.

What about the growing epicenter in Brazil and the Venezuelan migration connections?

Mandatory state quarantine is in place for everyone entering. Positive or not

[Ted_v2]

^are u talking about tobago residents alone or trinidad residents quarantining quite there then coming to trinidad?

Send everybody tobago nah man.... it have empty self contained rooms in all those empty hotels and guest houses and all the Tobago catering services equipped, ready and shutdown plus CAL pilots need to fly.

Simple operation.... send the flight from wherever to Tobago, quarantine for 14 days then bring them to home to Trinidad.

Great idea.

[death365]

I wonder what people did with the cases of lysol and other toiletries. Cause some people over buy in march

[Blaze d Chalice]

In times of crisis, when life or death is at stake, believers turn to their religion to understand the situation they are experiencing. This is why in Muslim societies, where the scourge of COVID-19 is rampant, we often hear the words of the Prophet Mohammed quoted: "If the plague breaks out in a region do not go there, but if you are already there, do not come out of it."

https://news.Colombia.edu/news/islam-le ... ith-plague

Rubbish.
Wouldn't a real (not false) prophet be able to say before hand, "The plague will break out in X place and time, so don't go there" instead of "If it breaks out"?
Common sense would dictate that.

[redmanjp]

^are u talking about tobago residents alone or trinidad residents quarantining quite there then coming to trinidad?

Send everybody tobago nah man.... it have empty self contained rooms in all those empty hotels and guest houses and all the Tobago catering services equipped, ready and shutdown plus CAL pilots need to fly.

Simple operation.... send the flight from wherever to Tobago, quarantine for 14 days then bring them to home to Trinidad.

Great idea.

perhaps. but they would need 24/7 security outside their rooms. the last thing we need is one of them sneaking out and going into any public place, even grocery.

[NR8]

^are u talking about tobago residents alone or trinidad residents quarantining quite there then coming to trinidad?

Send everybody tobago nah man.... it have empty self contained rooms in all those empty hotels and guest houses and all the Tobago catering services equipped, ready and shutdown plus CAL pilots need to fly.

Simple operation.... send the flight from wherever to Tobago, quarantine for 14 days then bring them to home to Trinidad.

Great idea.

perhaps. but they would need 24/7 security outside their rooms. the last thing we need is one of them sneaking out and going into any public place, even grocery.

One would presume this was already the case at all the quarantine and step down facilities, no?

[Gladiator]

I have had some meetings with the TTDF and MoNS they have the security aspect covered very well.

^are u talking about tobago residents alone or trinidad residents quarantining quite there then coming to trinidad?

Send everybody tobago nah man.... it have empty self contained rooms in all those empty hotels and guest houses and all the Tobago catering services equipped, ready and shutdown plus CAL pilots need to fly.

Simple operation.... send the flight from wherever to Tobago, quarantine for 14 days then bring them to home to Trinidad.

Great idea.

perhaps. but they would need 24/7 security outside their rooms. the last thing we need is one of them sneaking out and going into any public place, even grocery.

One would presume this was already the case at all the quarantine and step down facilities, no?

[redmanjp]

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/t-t-surrounded-by-coronavirus/article_91d424e4-a419-11ea-8ba3-47e5a64291c9.html

'T&T surrounded by coronavirus'
Khamarie Rodriguez Jun 1, 2020 Updated 9 hrs ago


Despite a drop in the national case load that has allowed for the accelerated phased reopening of the country’s ecomony, Covid-19 remains a threat.

This according to Minister of Health Terrance Deyalsingh who told members of the media during a virtual media conference on Monday that while the Government continues to accept persons into the country’s borders, virus numbers and deaths worldwide continue to mount.

He spoke of case 117, which came after more than a month with no new cases being recorded in the country. He said that the case came from a family of three that was repatriated last week via an air ambulance from Houston. The family was immediately quarantined upon arrival and tested for the virus. The case was reported to the Ministry on Saturday afternoon following the Prime Minister’s national address concerning phase three of reopening, scheduled to begin on Monday morning.

“As announced by the Prime Minister on Saturday 30, we have an early start to phase three of the reopening of the economy. On Saturday the numbers for Trinidad and Tobago stood at 116 and those were fairly static for about a month I believe. After the Honorable Prime Minister made his announcement, we did get word at around 5.p.m. or 5.30 .p.m. that on Saturday afternoon that we did have one more case, which luckily was an imported case,” he said.

He added that as the case was imported, it would not affect the status of the economic reopening as set out by the Prime Minister.

Deyalsingh said that the imported case reflected the ease at which the virus can re-enter the country and affect many. As the total global caseload today surpassed 6 million, he said this number could easily account for the entire population of the Caricom region. The number of total deaths he said, was five times more than the population of Tobago.

“Whenever we speak at these press conferences, we give the global figure. We give the global figure to remind citizens that Trinidad and Tobago is still surrounded by coronavirus. I know that many citizens feel that the threat has passed but with this latest imported case it should reinforce in the minds of citizens that the threat has not really passed.”

“Where are we in the world today? 6,302,150 that is the population of Caricom. It is like having the whole of Caricom, every man, woman, child, Prime Minister, nurse, doctor, in the Caricom region infected. That is the number. The number of deaths is 374 554. In the Trinidad and Tobago setting, that is about five times the population of Tobago. It is probably the entire southern part of the country’s population or the entire East/West corridor have died,” he said.

He said that as the Government was prepared to accept more stranded nationals from across the globe, including cruise ship workers and UWI students, care needs to be executed in the way repatriation is managed. While he said the parallel healthcare, system has a significant capacity, the threat of transmission remains one to be considered.

“As we accept more and more people into our territory in a very measured way, I think what happened on Saturday afternoon speaks volumes to the careful way we have been managing having our citizens come back into the country. There was a call by one ill-informed person to bring in 1,000 people because we have 1,000 beds in the parallel healthcare system. I think we have exploded that theory. That is why we always emphasize at these press conferences; the virus is around us.

“Yes, Trinidad and Tobago have done an excellent job but the threat is out there and the threat is still real. And as we bring in more people from different sources, whether it's from the University of the West Indies, the cruise ship employees, the people from Venezuela, the people from Guyana. As we bring in people in this measured way. It is this measured reintroduction of people into Trinidad and Tobago that will save us. That one case we got on Saturday should remind us that you simply can’t flip a switch, whether it's for the economy or whether it's for reentry into Trinidad and Tobago, it has to be a gradual, well thought out and measured process,” he said.

[redmanjp]

were they in breach of the law? considering a covid party was at a guesthouse?

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/everyone-practiced-social-distancing-and-wore-masks/article_10acca84-a4d1-11ea-990f-979ae542bb01.html

'Everyone practiced social distancing and wore masks'
Kimoy Leon Sing 1 hr ago

Attorney General Faris Al Rawi (right) and Oropouche East MP Dr Roodal Moonilal on stage with singers (from left) Anuradha Hansraj, Rooplal Girdharie, Satnarine Ragoo, Imran GI Beharry (at back) and Reshma Ramlal

Southex CEO George Singh is responding to those who say his virtual concert last Friday was in breach of the government imposed health regulations to slow the spread of Covid-19 at its virtual Indian Arrival Day fundraising concert on Saturday.

Speaking to the Express on Monday, Singh said, “This was done at my home; a private residence and there was absolutely no audience in attendance.”

The fundraising concert which went live on Facebook, showed Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi, Oropouche East MP Roodlal Moonilal, Singh, and several singers without masks standing close together.

Singh said, everyone in attendance practiced social distancing and were wearing masks which were only removed for singing.

According to Singh, the safety of everyone attending was a top priority, and as such, they were all asked to arrive at staggered intervals.

Moonilal, who was at the fundraiser, and was seen online not wearing a mask, said he was just following the lead set by the Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley and the Minister of Health Terrence Deyalsingh.

He said, “These regular press conferences at the Diplomatic Centre, one notices neither the Prime Minister nor minister Deyalsingh are not wearing masks anymore to talk, so it is the same principle I think when there are no persons in front of you.”

“I saw Mr Rowley and Deyalsingh in a huddle at the last press conference, and they were lips apart. They had to discuss a matter and they were lips apart, so I imagine once you are talking or in our case singing, it is the same thing,” he said.

According to Moonilal, singing is difficult to do in a mask, especially if one is trying to make a note, so he took it off.

Singh reiterated that they followed all health guidelines, and the concert went off without a hitch.

“Remember this was done at a private residence, so the Public Health Ordinance Act, I don’t think we infringed on anything in the Act at all,” he said.

The virtual fundraising concert was a first for Southex, and Singh says he wants to make it an annual event.

Singh said since the government stay-at-home order came into effect, there are many people, including artistes that have been using social media and live streaming to do virtual concerts.

Singh said the event raised almost $45,000 and will benefit chutney singers Sam Boodram, and Boodram Holass.

He says measures are underway to give assistance to other artistes and musicians whose income has been affected by the Covid-19 restrictions.

He said, “We got a 1000 comments and they were very positive. People enjoyed the show…..they shared it and I think they appreciated what we pushed out for Arrival Day. You will always get negative comments no matter what you do, so that’s expected.”

In Trinidad and Tobago, mask wearing is not a legal requirement.

According to Rowley, though this option was explored, and discussions were held with the attorney general on it, he concluded that it was to remain a matter of personal character.

Addressing the media at its virtual daily press brief on Saturday, Dr Rowley noted the wearing of a mask, did little in preventing an individual from contracting the virus, but it instead prevented the transmission of the virus from the mask wearer to the wider public.

that singing could have spread the virus- just like what the CDC said about a super spreader in a choir who infected dozens of choir members. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-01/coronavirus-choir-singing-cdc-warning

[Dizzy28]

^ Is Feris's pants so tight he has to tuck his phone in his belt??

[MaxPower]

^ Is Feris's pants so tight he has to tuck his phone in his belt??

Yeh bro it is,

He prob don’t like how it visibly prints out.

Sexy man ting na

[paid_influencer]

that singing could have spread the virus- just like what the CDC said about a super spreader in a choir who infected dozens of choir members. https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-01/coronavirus-choir-singing-cdc-warning

yup. it's like saying everyone wore condoms and only took them off when it was time to fk

[pugboy]

The man real name is Johnny Seukeran eh

^ Is Feris's pants so tight he has to tuck his phone in his belt??

[MaxPower]

Any evidence that tear gas kills Covid-19 in the air?

If it does, they should stop using it.

This is a pandemic and these protestors/rioters have no consideration for this, themselves and the elderly that they are going home to.

I want the cases to increase high enough for them to now understand the consequences of their actions.

Lives Lost, Lessons Learnt.

[Gladiator]

Any evidence that tear gas kills Covid-19 in the air?

If it does, they should stop using it.

This is a pandemic and these protestors/rioters have no consideration for this, themselves and the elderly that they are going home to.

I want the cases to increase high enough for them to now understand the consequences of their actions.

Actually one medical expert said that it causes you to cough with mucus production in the eyes and respiratory tract which will accelerate COVID19 spread 10X

[MaxPower]

Any evidence that tear gas kills Covid-19 in the air?

If it does, they should stop using it.

This is a pandemic and these protestors/rioters have no consideration for this, themselves and the elderly that they are going home to.

I want the cases to increase high enough for them to now understand the consequences of their actions.

Actually one medical expert said that it causes you to cough with mucus production in the eyes and respiratory tract which will accelerate COVID19 spread 10X

God bless America

[KM_2NR]

Honeymoon over , back to work

[MaxPower]

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[sMASH]

not if u keep the borders closed.
and if we get a second wave, that would be what, 8 additional deaths?

[MaxPower]

not if u keep the borders closed.
and if we get a second wave, that would be what, 8 additional deaths?

Oh sheit,

Posted in the wrong thread.

But yeh i agree.

[adnj]

A study published in The New England Journal of Medicine shows that, at least, the drug is not effective in preventing a person from contracting the virus once exposed to it.

“This was a large, randomized controlled trial done by very good people. Hydroxychloroquine did not provide a notable advantage,” Dr. William Schaffner, a specialist at Vanderbilt University, said.

The study, conducted by researchers from the University of Minnesota and Canada, used 821 participants who had been exposed to the virus. The participants were health care workers and people who may have been exposed to an infected family member.

None of the participants, ranging from ages 33 to 50, exhibited symptoms and did not exhibit any underlying health problems. Within four days of exposure, researchers randomly provided either hydroxychloroquine or a placebo.

Researchers found "hydroxychloroquine did not prevent illness compatible with COVID-19 or confirmed infection when used as postexposure prophylaxis within four days after exposure."

“The take-home message for the general public is that if you’re exposed to someone with COVID-19, hydroxychloroquine is not an effective post-exposure, preventive therapy,” the lead author of the study, Dr. David R. Boulware, from the University of Minnesota, said in an interview with the New York Times.

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[goalpost]

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It's like everything lining up perfectly in the US for mass death from this disease.