Covid-19 and 5G networks?

[matix]

[shogun]

lol...

[hydroep]

Talk yuh talk, but vandalism is crossing the line. However I don't agree with using "these are not normal times" to legitimize censorship..

Coronavirus: Tech firms summoned over 'crackpot' 5G conspiracies
By Leo Kelion Technology desk editor


The culture secretary is to order social media companies to be more aggressive in their response to conspiracy theories linking 5G networks to the coronavirus pandemic.

Oliver Dowden plans to hold virtual meetings with representatives from several tech firms next week to discuss the matter.

It follows a number of 5G masts apparently being set on fire.

The issue will test the companies' commitments to free speech.

Earlier in the week, blazes were reported at masts in Birmingham, Liverpool and Melling in Merseyside.

A spokesman for Vodafone's mobile network told the BBC there had been a total of four further incidents over the past 24 hours at both its own sites and those shared with O2, but did not identify the locations.

"We have received several reports of criminal damage to phone masts and abuse of telecoms engineers apparently inspired by crackpot conspiracy theories circulating online," a spokeswoman for the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport told the BBC.

"Those responsible for criminal acts will face the full force of the law.

"We must also see social media companies acting responsibly and taking much swifter action to stop nonsense spreading on their platforms which encourages such acts."

DCMS has yet to confirm which tech companies are being summoned.

'Complete rubbish'

False theories are being spread on smaller platforms such as Nextdoor, Pinterest and the petitions site Change.org as well as larger ones including Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and TikTok.

Scientists have said the idea of a connection between Covid-19 and 5G is "complete rubbish" and biologically impossible.

Several of the platforms have already taken steps to address the problem but have not banned discussion of the subject outright.

Pinterest, for example, limits its search results for coronavirus and related terms to showing pinned information from recognised health organisations but does not have a comparable restriction for 5G.

Facebook said it had also removed a number of groups that were encouraging attacks on 5G masts.

However, a post entitled "burn baby burn - it's begun", which accompanied videos of telecoms equipment ablaze, was only taken down about six hours after it was flagged to the company's press office.

YouTube bans some types of bogus posts about Covid-19, but classes conspiracy theories linking the virus to 5G as "borderline content". As a result, it said it tries to reduce the frequency its algorithms recommend them, but does not delete the videos from its platform.

A spokeswoman for the Google-owned service said it intended to "evaluate the impact" of this approach. It did, however, remove one video flagged by the BBC that featured threatening language.

Change.org said its open nature allowed anyone to set up a petition about any issue they cared about, but added they must comply with its guidelines to stay online.

"We have removed a number of petitions making unsubstantiated health claims about 5G from the platform," a spokeswoman added.

Vodafone has said the attacks are "now a matter of national security".

"It beggars belief that some people should want to harm the very networks that are providing essential connectivity to the emergency services, the NHS, and rest of the country during this difficult lockdown period," wrote UK chief executive Nick Jeffery.

"It also makes me angry to learn that some people have been abusing our engineers as they go about their business.

"Online stories connecting the spread of coronavirus to 5G are utterly baseless. Please don't share them on social media - fake news can have serious consequences."

The GSMA - a trade body that represents the wider mobile industry - also urged social media and other content-hosting providers to "accelerate their efforts to remove fake news" relating to the problem.

The campaign against 5G has been flourishing on social media for the last year.

Facebook in particular has been full of groups claiming the technology is dangerous, with many of them also pushing anti-vaccine messages.

Until recently, apart from the odd fact-checking message alongside posts, the companies have done little to combat this trend. Neither Twitter nor YouTube, for instance, has an option in their reporting systems to flag misinformation.

Even on Friday, complaints to Facebook moderators about a group that appeared to encourage arson attacks on 5G masts received replies saying the page did "not violate our community standards" - although after the BBC contacted Facebook's press office it was taken down.

In normal times, social media platforms are very reluctant to curb what they regard as an essential part of their mission: giving people the right to free expression, however outlandish or unscientific their views.

But these are not normal times.

The government is effectively waging a war against a deadly virus, and keyworkers looking after vital infrastructure are facing abuse, possibly inspired by these social media campaigners.

That means there is now intense pressure on the likes of Facebook, YouTube, TikTok and Twitter to combat what one minister has called "dangerous nonsense" - and they will want to be seen to be acting responsibly, even if some of their users cry censorship.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52172570

[bluefete]

Coronavirus: Scientists brand 5G claims 'complete rubbish'
By Rachel Schraer & Eleanor Lawrie
Reality Check



Conspiracy theories claiming 5G technology helps transmit coronavirus have been condemned by the scientific community.

Videos have been shared on social media showing mobile phone masts on fire in Birmingham and Merseyside - along with the claims.

The posts have been shared on Facebook, YouTube and Instagram - including by verified accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers.

But scientists say the idea of a connection between Covid-19 and 5G is "complete rubbish" and biologically impossible.

The conspiracy theories have been branded "the worst kind of fake news" by NHS England Medical Director Stephen Powis.

Conspiracy theory
Many of those sharing the post are pushing a conspiracy theory falsely claiming that 5G - which is used in mobile phone networks and relies on signals carried by radio waves - is somehow responsible for coronavirus.

These theories appear to have first emerged via Facebook posts in late January, around the same time the first cases were recorded in the US.

They appear to fall broadly in to two camps:

One claims 5G can suppress the immune system, thus making people more susceptible to catching the virus.
The other suggests the virus can somehow be transmitted through the use of 5G technology.

Both these notions are "complete rubbish," says Dr Simon Clarke, associate professor in cellular microbiology at the University of Reading.

"The idea that 5G lowers your immune system doesn't stand up to scrutiny," Dr Clarke says.

"Your immune system can be dipped by all sorts of thing - by being tired one day, or not having a good diet. Those fluctuations aren't huge but can make you more susceptible to catching viruses."

While very strong radio waves can cause heating, 5G is nowhere near strong enough to heat people up enough to have any meaningful effect.



"Radio waves can disrupt your physiology as they heat you up, meaning your immune system can't function. But [the energy levels from] 5G radio waves are tiny and they are nowhere near strong enough to affect the immune system. There have been lots of studies on this."

The radio waves involved in 5G and other mobile phone technology sit on the low frequency end of the electromagnetic spectrum. Less powerful than visible light, they are not strong enough to damage cells - unlike radiation at the higher frequency end of the spectrum which includes the sun's rays and medical x-rays.

It would also be impossible for 5G to transmit the virus, Adam Finn, professor of paediatrics at the University of Bristol, adds.

"The present epidemic is caused by a virus that is passed from one infected person to another. We know this is true. We even have the virus growing in our lab, obtained from a person with the illness. Viruses and electromagnetic waves that make mobile phones and internet connections work are different things. As different as chalk and cheese," he says.

It's also important to note another major flaw with the conspiracy theories - coronavirus is spreading in UK cities where 5G has yet to be deployed, and in countries like Iran that have yet to roll out the technology.

There were plenty of scare stories about 5G circulating before the coronavirus outbreak which Reality Check has already looked into, such as this piece: Does 5G pose health risks?

Earlier this year, a long-running study from the watchdog the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP) rebutted these claims, saying there was no evidence that mobile networks cause cancer or other illnesses.

But if anything, the misinformation seems to have escalated.



Trade body Mobile UK has said false rumours and theories linking 5G and coronavirus were "concerning," while the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport has reiterated there is "absolutely no credible evidence for the link".

Viruses invade human or animal cells and use them to reproduce, which is what causes infection. Viruses cannot live very long outside a living thing, so they have to find a way in - usually via droplets of liquid from coughs or sneezes.

Genome sequencing of this coronavirus suggests it jumped from animals to humans - and then began to pass from human to human.

https://www.bbc.com/news/52168096?fbcli ... 5FeK9uEFHY

[rspann]

Aalyuh sure ? I hear if you don't have an anti virus program on yuh computer , people does send you the virus and it does go thru the internets and could cross over from the phone through the microwaves in the atmosphere and invade yuh body. That is how Corona spread. So either you download a good anti virus program or stop use the internets . It's the only way to stop the spread.

[zoomedic]

this might be too nuch for some of you all but

time will tell

covid 19 is the 5g and
if toy dont belive me go and look for doubles to buy
you cant get any
toy see its the 5 g

i tell you

[zoomedic]

dont waste tour time on me your.already a voice in side my head .....

[gastly369]

Doh study dem bai do like me and wrap yuh house in foil
Follow me at nextlvlwraps.com


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[eurotuner]

Ah reach! Lets go!

[ScHoolboySoloQ]

Poof is d 5G cawzin d corvid

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[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ She says 80ºF temperature can kill it - but the internal temperature of a human is on average 98.6 °F - so won't it die inside us?

if she is a medical professional why is she wearing a hair cap but almost all her hair is flowing outside it?

[maj. tom]

This really picking up speed eh? This "discussion" really going on in the world?
Universal internet access has turned out to be such a boon and a curse to humanity that will just get better and worse at the same time. What a paradox of human nature.

[ProtonPowder]

People looking for something to scapegoat, and this just happen to be up on the chopping block.

Expect it to last a lil while, even if it just stay a few weeks in the forefront. When microwaves were getting more accessible to the public, people were saying it caused cancer. Same thing for cellphones, same thing when TSTT was upgrading to GSM from TDMA.

How EM wavelengths can transmit viruses made of matter is beyond me, but I suppose people think of them as the same thing, seeing as you cant see either of them.

[SMc]

Ill just leave this here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52198946 it good

Coronavirus: YouTube tightens rules after David Icke 5G interview



YouTube has banned all conspiracy theory videos falsely linking coronavirus symptoms to 5G networks.

The Google-owned service will now delete videos violating the policy. It had previously limited itself to reducing the frequency it recommended them in its Up Next section.

The move follows a live-streamed interview with conspiracy theorist David Icke on Monday, in which he had linked the technology to the pandemic.

YouTube said the video would be wiped.

During the interview, Mr Icke falsely claimed there "is a link between 5G and this health crisis".

And when asked for his reaction to reports of 5G masts being set on fire in England, he responded: "If 5G continues and reaches where they want to take it, human life as we know it is over... so people have to make a decision."

Several users subsequently called for further attacks on 5G towers in the comments that appeared alongside the feed.

Mr Icke also falsely claimed that a coronavirus vaccine, when one is developed, will include "nanotechnology microchips" that would allow humans to be controlled. He added that Bill Gates - who is helping fund Covid-19 vaccine research - should be jailed. His views went unchallenged for much of the two-and-a-half-hour show.

Policy violation
The interview was watched by about 65,000 people as it was streamed, some of whom clicked an on-screen button to trigger payments to make their live chat reactions stand out.

YouTube only deleted the content after the session had ended, despite being aware of the broadcast while it was ongoing.

It changed its rules after the BBC asked why it had not taken action earlier.

"We have clear policies that prohibit videos promoting medically unsubstantiated methods to prevent the coronavirus in place of seeking medical treatment, and we quickly remove videos violating these policies when flagged to us," a spokeswoman for YouTube told the BBC.

"Now any content that disputes the existence or transmission of Covid-19, as described by the WHO [World Health Organization] and local health authorities is in violation of YouTube policies.

"This includes conspiracy theories which claim that the symptoms are caused by 5G.

"For borderline content that could misinform users in harmful ways, we reduce recommendations. We'll continue to evaluate the impact of these videos on communities around the world."

Users who repeatedly break the rules now face being prevented from being able to use YouTube's Live tool.

The firm may also prevent repeat offenders from earning money, and said it would terminate channels as a last resort.

In this case, YouTube is allowing the interview's host to keep earnings generated via the Super Chats tool while the video was still online.

But it is giving its own cut of the proceeds to charity, and has put the channel involved under review.

Unfounded theories

Conspiracy theories linking 5G signals to the coronavirus pandemic continue to spread despite there being no evidence the mobile phone signals pose a health risk.

Fact-checking charity Full Fact has linked the claims to two flawed theories.


Vodafone and Three have reported attacks on their telecoms equipment over recent days
One falsely suggests 5G suppresses the immune system, the other falsely claims the virus is somehow using the network's radio waves to communicate and pick victims, accelerating its spread.

While 5G uses different radio frequencies to its predecessors, it's important to recognise that the waveband involved is still "non-ionising", meaning it lacks enough energy to break apart chemical bonds in the DNA in our cells to cause damage.

Earlier this year, scientists at the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection completed a major study of related research into the topic.

While it recommended slightly tighter limits on the transmitting capabilities of handsets themselves to minimise any chance of damage caused by human tissue being heated, its key finding was that there was no evidence that either 5G networks or earlier systems could cause cancer or other kinds of illness.

The second theory appears to be based on the work of a Nobel Prize-winning biologist who suggested bacteria could generate radio waves.

But this remains a controversial idea and well outside mainstream scientific thought.

There's another major flaw with both these theories. Coronavirus is spreading in UK cities where 5G has yet to be deployed, and in countries like Japan and Iran that have yet to adopt the technology.

[maj. tom]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_teleportation
DNA teleportation is a pseudoscientific claim that DNA produces electromagnetic signals (EMS), measurable when highly diluted in water. This signal can supposedly be recorded, transmitted electronically, and re-emitted on another distant pure water sample, where DNA can replicate through polymerase chain reaction despite the absence of the original DNA in the new water sample.[1] The idea was introduced by the Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier in 2009.[2] It is similar in principle to water memory, another pseudoscientific concept, popularised by Jacques Benveniste in 1988.[3]

Yeah, so even Nobel Prize winners can be kooks as well. Let's not forget the infamous Linus Pauling and his Mega-Vitamin C obsession that filtered into popular unscience to every human on the planet. With no scientific proof in innumerable repeated experiments, that myth is still propagated today.

[bluefete]

Best vitamin C: eat an orange, cherry, grapefruit, portugal, suck lime, mango, local fruits.

[coltspeed]

Adds foil to panic buying list!!!

[nismotrinidappa]

https://youtu.be/06gRVUgWonQ

[screwbash]

so i turn off 5G on all my wifi AP at home and i find my mood change we. cud be power of suggestion but without the 5g i seeing a difference.

[zoomedic]

all the persin eho wrte affected becsuse of travel is because they meaning the ppl who is the 5G technocrats
tesyed abd sent out radio active waves
recently and most ppl eho wete in the air got affected abd eho wete on ships also

because they wete not grounded

[rspann]

Zoo , one of the animals walking in the keyboard .

[rspann]

all the persin eho wrte affected becsuse of travel is because they meaning the ppl who is the 5G technocrats
tesyed abd sent out radio active waves
recently and most ppl eho wete in the air got affected abd eho wete on ships also

because they wete not grounded

[gastly369]

5ghz not same as 5G brhh lol

so i turn off 5G on all my wifi AP at home and i find my mood change we. cud be power of suggestion but without the 5g i seeing a difference.

5 gigahertz vs 5th Generation different terms

[maj. tom]

5ghz not same as 5G brhh lol

so i turn off 5G on all my wifi AP at home and i find my mood change we. cud be power of suggestion but without the 5g i seeing a difference.

5 gigahertz vs 5th Generation different terms

hahahahahahahahaaaaa wheeze *deads*
This man eh play he swamp dotish

[maj. tom]

[aaron17]

Lol

[rspann]

so maj tom don't know somebody could ketch it from the 5G and then spread it by travel and contact ? Wey sah everything I does have to explain so ?

[nismotrinidappa]

Looks so

[maj. tom]

no boy it cyah spread like that because inside a plane does charge up when it crossing the earth magnetic field and disinfect the covid 5g signals at 27,000 ft. The virus only forming on the ground level from the cell towers and when it passing through people brain.