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Riots in the USA

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 30th, 2020, 1:03 am

CNN's Nick Valencia reports live from inside the CNN Center in Atlanta where demonstrations over the killing of George Floyd have turned violent.


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Postby adnj » May 30th, 2020, 5:13 am

Trump’s controversial tweet has deep connections to Miami’s race riots in the 1960s

Trump\'s controversial tweet has deep connections to Miami\'s race riots in the 1960s



MIAMI (WSVN) - President Donald Trump’s tweet, which sparked controversy around the nation, has a deep connection to Miami’s history, dating back to the 1960s.

South Florida was a very different place in the 1960s, and tension between the African American community and police was mounting.

“The white community has not and still does not realize that the black community is still being totally segregated, and there are just few areas of integration that are creeping in, but all is not well in Dade County,” a man said.

“The situation is tense in Liberty City, where Frances Henderson is struggling with a year-old program to keep the kids occupied and out of site,” a news report said. “She is especially critical of the recent crackdown by the Miami Police Department.”

“I don’t think people in Florida and in Miami will take this too much longer because it is a shame to have the cops mess with you,” a second man said.

The tension exploded into the first of Miami’s race riots in 1968.

At around the same time, then Miami Police Chief Walter Headley said, “When the looting starts, the shooting starts.”

On Friday, that phrase came to the center of attention in modern America once again when the president, 53 years later, tweeted the same thing: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts.”

Miami Historian Dr. Paul George said that quote was a defining moment in Miami’s history, and what is occurring in Minneapolis is not all that different from what happened in Miami in the late ’60s.

“I read it within the last 12 hours, and I was like, ‘That is what Headley said 50-plus years ago!’ This is unbelievable that it has come full circle in that respect,” George said. “The conditions for the almost identical quotes are quite similar — unrest to the point of rioting.”

The rioting from over 50 years ago displays similar scenes to the Minneapolis riots following the tragic killing of George Floyd.

Longtime Miami Police leader Delrish Moss, now a Florida International University Police captain, was formerly the police chief in Ferguson, Missouri.

“It should never be at the point of violence and mayhem and tearing things up,” Moss said. “It should never get to that, but secondly, we as a society have to stop showing that those are the only things that get us to listen to a public that is hurting.”

When asked about the phrase at the White House, Trump said, “Well, I’ve heard that phrase for a long time. I don’t know where it came from, where it originated. I’ve heard it for a long time, as most people have, and frankly, it means when there’s looting, people get shot, and they die, and if you look at what happened last night and the night before, you see that is very common.”

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Postby screwbash » May 30th, 2020, 5:46 am

d way dem guntas acting and dressing dese days is y yuh go more of this action from the whites. is like dem still in the jungle in africa. if guntas stop committing crimes and d bad boy arseness all guntas aint go pay for it.

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Postby MaxPower » May 30th, 2020, 6:55 am

It is unbelievable how so many people are supporting the actions of these violent protests and condoning this unruly and criminal behavior.

Need Rodrigo Duterte.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 30th, 2020, 7:09 am

Isnt there another thread relating to this??

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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Isnt there another thread relating to this??


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Postby Redman » May 30th, 2020, 7:21 am

With 10 ,000,000 arrests a year..in the US..there will have to be problems.

With 800,000 police officers in the US...you will have some bad apples.

The officers are being dealt with...and will prolly never work again.

These riots help no one...and certainly do more damage to race relations, and helping to polarize the segments of the population.

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Postby adnj » May 30th, 2020, 7:50 am

How the 1960s' Riots Hurt African-Americans

"The riots had economically significant negative effects on blacks' income and employment. Further, those effects may have been larger in the long run - from 1960 to 1980 - than in the short run - from 1960 to 1970."

"The riots significantly depressed the median value of black-owned property between 1960 and 1970, with little or no rebound in the 1970s."

Any American of a certain age remembers the race-related riots that tore through U. S. numerous cities in the 1960s. Between 1964 and 1971, civil disturbances (as many as 700, by one count) resulted in large numbers of injuries, deaths, and arrests, as well as considerable property damage, concentrated in predominantly black areas.

Although the United States has experienced race-related civil disturbances throughout its history, the 1960s events were unprecedented in their frequency and scope. Law enforcement authorities took extraordinary measures to end the riots, sometimes including the mobilization of National Guard units. The most deadly riots were in Detroit (1967), Los Angeles (1965), and Newark (1967). Measuring riot severity by also including arrests, injuries, and arson adds Washington (1968) to that list. Particularly following the death of Martin Luther King in April 1968, the riots signaled the end of the carefully orchestrated, non-violent demonstrations of the early Civil Rights Movement.

Social scientists have studied the causes of the riots for a long time. Now two NBER papers by William Collins and Robert Margo instead examine the economic impact of the riots on African Americans and on the cities where they took place. In the first paper, The Labor Market Effects of the 1960s Riots (NBER Working Paper No. 10243), they find that the riots had economically significant negative effects on blacks' income and employment. Further, those effects may have been larger in the long run - from 1960 to 1980 - than in the short run - from 1960 to 1970.

The exact mechanisms through which the riots affected economic activity over a long period of time are difficult to identify, but a large number of potentially reinforcing channels exist. Property risk might seem higher in central city neighborhoods than before the riots, causing insurance premiums to rise; taxes for income redistribution or more police and fire protection might increase, and municipal bonds may be more difficult to place; retail outlets might close; businesses and employment opportunities might relocate; middle and higher income households might move away; burned out buildings might be an eyesore; and so on. These damaging aspects of riots, the authors find, apparently outweighed outside assistance directed toward the riot areas in the wake of the disturbances.

https://www.nber.org/digest/sep04/w10243.html

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Postby MaxPower » May 30th, 2020, 8:00 am

Redman wrote:With 10 ,000,000 arrests a year..in the US..there will have to be problems.

With 800,000 police officers in the US...you will have some bad apples.

The officers are being dealt with...and will prolly never work again.

These riots help no one...and certainly do more damage to race relations, and helping to polarize the segments of the population.


Hello Redman,

I agree with your comments.

It’s so unfortunate that the message of the peaceful protestors are going unheard. The pleas for rightful justice in this particular incident/alleged accident are being overpowered by these violent and criminal actions.

I look at the media and all i can see is anger. Anger from people who genuinely do NOT care about themselves, their city, their Mayor, George Floyd and even the severity/consequences from an ongoing pandemic.

There will be little outcome from this riot other than a broken city. Looting, damaging property and violence changes nothing and only shows the despicable, disgusting, carless and self centered behavior of these citizens. It’s so sad that Altanta Mayor Keisha Bottom’s speech was so powerful but yet the fires kept burning.

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Postby maj. tom » May 30th, 2020, 8:59 am

Let it burn. This time it may go further than ever because of the current politics and clown-in-office at the White House.
Millions are unemployed due to the virus. 100, 000 dead. Plenty more grievances coming out now. Too much inequality in society. Is every time they have to beg for justice over the hundreds of incidents of wrongful cop killing civilians? Is every time they have to end up protesting for basic human rights?

Let it continue to burn and move to more cities. Let it reach Washington D.C. I think this going to escalate into something big. A dividing point in America's history. The people are letting the Government know that in the future if they don't want these consequences of mass destruction, then just do the right thing from the start, instead of all the corruption by the law offices to hide these crimes.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 30th, 2020, 9:31 am

MaxPower wrote:It is unbelievable how so many people are supporting the actions of these violent protests and condoning this unruly and criminal behavior.

Need Rodrigo Duterte.


MSNBC and CNN has been praising these riots from day one constantly calling them "peaceful protests" this is how the mainstream liberal media fans the flames of racial tension and anarchy all in the name of journalism and selling news.

Bacchanal sells so they fan the flames of hate even more the evidence is clear as day.

The ONLY news network in the mainstream media that actually called this a Riot in the early stages was Tucker Carlson on Fox News and nobody else.

The big big problem here is BLACKS are being affected the MOST by these riots. Black businesses are being burnt to the ground by the same black protestors.

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Postby zoom rader » May 30th, 2020, 9:34 am

maj. tom wrote:Let it burn. This time it may go further than ever because of the current politics and clown-in-office at the White House.
Millions are unemployed due to the virus. 100, 000 dead. Plenty more grievances coming out now. Too much inequality in society. Is every time they have to beg for justice over the hundreds of incidents of wrongful cop killing civilians? Is every time they have to end up protesting for basic human rights?

Let it continue to burn and move to more cities. Let it reach Washington D.C. I think this going to escalate into something big. A dividing point in America's history. The people are letting the Government know that in the future if they don't want these consequences of mass destruction, then just do the right thing from the start, instead of all the corruption by the law offices to hide these crimes.
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Postby zoom rader » May 30th, 2020, 9:35 am

rspann wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Isnt there another thread relating to this??


Watch who the op is and bat in yuh crease .
Yeah joker mods like the one that locked a chead and then another open one of the same

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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:CNN's Nick Valencia reports live from inside the CNN Center in Atlanta where demonstrations over the killing of George Floyd have turned violent.




This same CNN was saying that anybody who calls these protestors "rioters" were Racists and no different to Fox News.
They swore that everything was PEACEFUL while buildings were burning because at the time they didn't think it would affect them as CNN continued to spread their fake news.

Now that sh!t falls in CNN Back Yard the monsters they have created has reached their doorsteps now suddenly the tune changes. Although CNN is calling it "violent floyd protestors" because they can't use the word "Rioters" since CNN claims it is a racist word.

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Postby zoom rader » May 30th, 2020, 9:44 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:CNN's Nick Valencia reports live from inside the CNN Center in Atlanta where demonstrations over the killing of George Floyd have turned violent.




This same CNN was saying that anybody who calls these protestors "rioters" were Racists and no different to Fox News.
They swore that everything was PEACEFUL while buildings were burning because at the time they didn't think it would affect them as CNN continued to spread their fake news.

Now that sh!t falls in CNN Back Yard the monsters they have created has reached their doorsteps now suddenly the tune changes. Although CNN is calling it "violent floyd protestors" because they can't use the word "Rioters" since CNN claims it is a racist word.
1% media better watch their arse with bias reporting.

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Postby Redman » May 30th, 2020, 9:58 am

Would the supporters of the riots be rioting if it was a black cop and a white victim.

Police killings are nor correlated to who is in office.

But toting all kinda external issues into the mix to make an excuse for what is crap...is exactly what makes it harder to determine and solve the actual cause.

Which probably is a stupid cop

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Postby zoom rader » May 30th, 2020, 10:06 am

Redman wrote:Would the supporters of the riots be rioting if it was a black cop and a white victim.

Police killings are nor correlated to who is in office.

But toting all kinda external issues into the mix to make an excuse for what is crap...is exactly what makes it harder to determine and solve the actual cause.

Which probably is a stupid cop
Bro black folk are just fed up and its one of the avenues they have to vent their anger.

White folk will just go with law and tie up things in court cause they have the financial means to and Support from other white folk and anti black groups.

Remember this also happened in the UK in 2011 when Matk Dugan was killed by police. London was in a mess.
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Postby ruffneck_12 » May 30th, 2020, 10:08 am

This is a textbook case of police brutality if I ever saw one.
But rioting ain't helping their cause nah.


Also, imma leave this right here
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Despite making up 13 percent of the populat.......... *gets zucked*

Brb gonna listen to some rap, a peaceful genre of music founded by the Chinese community I believe.

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Postby zoom rader » May 30th, 2020, 10:16 am

ruffneck_12 wrote:This is a textbook case of police brutality if I ever saw one.
But rioting ain't helping their cause nah.


Also, imma leave this right here
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Source: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/20 ... he-numbers



Despite making up 13 percent of the populat.......... *gets zucked*

Brb gonna listen to some rap, a peaceful genre of music founded by the Chinese community I believe.
These Roits show how the US is racist around the world.

There are thousands of cases of black folk getting killed in the hands of US police but it's goes unoticed.

US and France independence was all stated with Roits and it was by white folk

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Postby cornfused » May 30th, 2020, 10:27 am

As with many social issues one should not seem to castigate or paint with such a broad brush. Look rioting by way of looting and fires on private or public property is wrong.One needs to look at the defined images of some of the catalyst s of this situation an see that not only one race is responsible. In particular the persons starting the fire at the police station.
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Postby pugboy » May 30th, 2020, 10:40 am

the french actually pride themselves as a protesting nation
they are very quick to protest anything


zoom rader wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:This is a textbook case of police brutality if I ever saw one.
But rioting ain't helping their cause nah.


Also, imma leave this right here
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Source: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/20 ... he-numbers



Despite making up 13 percent of the populat.......... *gets zucked*

Brb gonna listen to some rap, a peaceful genre of music founded by the Chinese community I believe.
These Roits show how the US is racist around the world.

There are thousands of cases of black folk getting killed in the hands of US police but it's goes unoticed.

US and France independence was all stated with Roits and it was by white folk

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Postby Rovin » May 30th, 2020, 10:54 am

rspann wrote:
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Isnt there another thread relating to this??


Watch who the op is and bat in yuh crease .


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Postby zoom rader » May 30th, 2020, 11:02 am

pugboy wrote:the french actually pride themselves as a protesting nation
they are very quick to protest anything


zoom rader wrote:
ruffneck_12 wrote:This is a textbook case of police brutality if I ever saw one.
But rioting ain't helping their cause nah.


Also, imma leave this right here
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Source: https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/20 ... he-numbers



Despite making up 13 percent of the populat.......... *gets zucked*

Brb gonna listen to some rap, a peaceful genre of music founded by the Chinese community I believe.
These Roits show how the US is racist around the world.

There are thousands of cases of black folk getting killed in the hands of US police but it's goes unoticed.

US and France independence was all stated with Roits and it was by white folk
In banana republic of Trinidad a select group of idiots protess against non PNM parties and groups. They won't ever protest how they live , hardships that they face or their relatives in Jail ect.

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:shock: :shock: :shock:

well according to this we shud have been seeing white ppl behaving violently , rioting & looting on d streets too , not so ? .... :| :| :|

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 30th, 2020, 12:02 pm

^ Don't point out facts here nah boy this is Tuner and facts doh matter here.

More nonsense reporting by the NYT about how Mr Islam doesn't mind his building burning is more what we needs. Just imagine NYT wrote a rubbish piece about some man named Mr Islam who said let his building burn because it is worth it for justice.

Mind you this fella building is likely INSURED so he eh losing nothing if anything he will GAIN AND PROFIT.

So much for the rest of Black Owned Businesses without Insurance right? it's ok to loot and burn those buildings right? But yeah NYT should just keep encouraging riots since that is what their base loves.

Sensible thinking people realize these riots have nothing to do with Floyd at all, you don't harm innocent people, steal their flat screen OLED TV, burn their cars because you think Mr Floyd deserves justice but ooh well what do I know... I guess you got to honor Mr Floyd's death by stealing that new Nike Shoes and OLED TV then set the whole building on fire as you leave.

Reminds me of the scene from Robocop 1

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » May 30th, 2020, 12:15 pm

People love to sit on social media and promote chaos and rioting because it doesn't affect them, let this sh!t happen in Trinidad and see how fast these people change their tune nah, you feel any of them want to wake up one morning and see their house on fire and their new Corolla or Hyundai burned to the ground after they catch they c0nt all their life to pay for it?

Same way CNN suddenly changed their tune from "Peaceful Protest to Violent Protest" as soon as the rioters showed up to their doorsteps. People especially News Media that promote rioting and vandalism of private property should be shot with dog sh!t

But hey Bacchanal is the best selling news right? times of Chaos is when News Media makes all the money so its all good.
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Postby Country_Bookie » May 30th, 2020, 12:18 pm

This is such a contrast to Sweet TnT, where black ppl applaud and celebrate black police officers for killing black youths. All police have to do is label it gang related or say the suspect was known to police (not actually convicted of anything) and trinis lap it up and celebrate 1 less criminal on the streets.

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Postby mero » May 30th, 2020, 12:46 pm

Watching from the outside, this may mean nothing to many us and the unaffected, but to others this means everything, absolutely everything.

Burn it down. Have no dey coulda,dey shoulda.

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Postby zoom rader » May 30th, 2020, 1:50 pm

mero wrote:Watching from the outside, this may mean nothing to many us and the unaffected, but to others this means everything, absolutely everything.

Burn it down. Have no dey coulda,dey shoulda.
But you not oppressed in TT , you have it nice under a black goverment

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Postby adnj » May 30th, 2020, 3:04 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:This is a textbook case of police brutality if I ever saw one.
But rioting ain't helping their cause nah.


Also, imma leave this right here
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Despite making up 13 percent of the populat.......... *gets zucked*

Brb gonna listen to some rap, a peaceful genre of music founded by the Chinese community I believe.
You are highlighting 600 interracial killings. You fail to illustrate that is about 4% of about 15,000 killings per year in the US.

You can conclude that the vast majority of murders in the US are not interracial at all. The actual issue is not interracial police killings but the fact that a disproportionate number of minorities are killed by police, irrespective of the race of the officer in question.

** I am specifically addressing the widespread problem of police brutality that exits in the US, Latin America, North Africa, Asia, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe.

The practice of police targeted police agression against minorities not only makes the problem worse, it makes it completely unacceptable.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... n-the-u-s/

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs ... puar.12956

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