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Ben_spanna wrote:Does it really matter what happened in the past? its DONE, get over all of it, move on with your lives...…………...
teems1 wrote:The_Honourable wrote:the American Indians getting mother-loads of money right now from the US
What the native Americans went through is not comparable to the others. There are still butt loads of Africans/Indians/Jews/Chinese still around.
It's near impossible to find someone who is 100% native in the Caribbean/North America as they were wiped out by the colonizers through disease, genocide etc.
Daran wrote:Reparations, especially after many generations does not work. And while there are few precedents set, there are many many many other groups who have suffered worse than African slaves.
Daran wrote:There are many who disagree with the reparations even some Native Americans themselves. Look at how they live today? Many are alcoholics, depressed and are barely contributing to society. Also, what native american received wasn't reparations but based on treaties.
Reparations, especially after many generations does not work. And while there are few precedents set, there are many many many other groups who have suffered worse than African slaves.
Caricom asking for reparations just makes the region look like backward and entitled. You run things now, you have your own independent country, make something of it rather than begging for handouts because your great great great grandfather made some European rich by being a slave.
speedmelter wrote:Nobody owes anybody anything and i think we need to thank the white man for not sending us back to the motherlands after they were done with us. Im sure the Caribbean couldve been the little Americas populated with white European settlers if they wished. Pumping oil and living on nice beaches. We wouldve been a story about a little boy in africa or india begging or going through garbage.
FordeG wrote:As a black man, I am telling you, even here in TRINIDAD, we face extensive racism. May I remind you of these situations:
1. Prestige school placements
2. UWI admissions (why do you think Manning formed UTT?)
3. In any high-end establishment, blacks are only allowed if you mixed or have money or clout (aka Rowley, the Oreo).
4. Job discrimination, they will always prefer a pushover indo vs a strong black person
5. Loan applications, some many Ps and Qs they asking for, but my indo colleague with the same job gets through in record time. Also, why are all the mid level management in RBC and Scotia Indo?
Many of you say slavery shouldn't affect us, but how do you think it feels being black in this world. From the time you born you are being reminded that your people are the lowest rung of society. You all were slaves and now we let you go free, please don't fight too hard over our scraps. How do think it feels knowing that other than safe places like our Church, we are constantly being judged and assumed to be criminals.
Do you have any idea how many times I have to see indian and white women clutching their purse or cell phone when we pass by?
Do you not see the discrepancies in funding being given to black schools and health centers?
FordeG wrote:As a black man, I am telling you, even here in TRINIDAD, we face extensive racism. May I remind you of these situations:
1. Prestige school placements
2. UWI admissions (why do you think Manning formed UTT?)
3. In any high-end establishment, blacks are only allowed if you mixed or have money or clout (aka Rowley, the Oreo).
4. Job discrimination, they will always prefer a pushover indo vs a strong black person
5. Loan applications, some many Ps and Qs they asking for, but my indo colleague with the same job gets through in record time. Also, why are all the mid level management in RBC and Scotia Indo?
Many of you say slavery shouldn't affect us, but how do you think it feels being black in this world. From the time you born you are being reminded that your people are the lowest rung of society. You all were slaves and now we let you go free, please don't fight too hard over our scraps. How do think it feels knowing that other than safe places like our Church, we are constantly being judged and assumed to be criminals.
How do you think it feels knowing that there are many countries and places that we can't visit because of racism? I've been told countless times black people should never visit Russia or Australia, yet I've had indian colleagues visit there regularly.
Indian ppl will often say, when they go US they are treated like they're black. But I am TELLING YOU that is RUBBISH. I have travelled with Church groups to Florida, and Indians are basically treated the same as whites, they get respect, they aren't admonished or ignored. Blacks are treated like errand boys and are mostly ignored.
Imagine going to an olive garden with my kids, and being ignored while persons of ALL races will get prompt service.
Do you have any idea how many times I have to see indian and white women clutching their purse or cell phone when we pass by?
Do you not see the discrepancies in funding being given to black schools and health centers?
Further to points 1 and 2 when SEA, CSEC, CAPE results comes out, who do you see dominating the top spots in these exams. So who do you expect to excel and get accepted to these prestige schools and universities. D gunman in yuh hole?alfa wrote:FordeG wrote:As a black man, I am telling you, even here in TRINIDAD, we face extensive racism. May I remind you of these situations:
1. Prestige school placements
2. UWI admissions (why do you think Manning formed UTT?)
3. In any high-end establishment, blacks are only allowed if you mixed or have money or clout (aka Rowley, the Oreo).
4. Job discrimination, they will always prefer a pushover indo vs a strong black person
5. Loan applications, some many Ps and Qs they asking for, but my indo colleague with the same job gets through in record time. Also, why are all the mid level management in RBC and Scotia Indo?
Many of you say slavery shouldn't affect us, but how do you think it feels being black in this world. From the time you born you are being reminded that your people are the lowest rung of society. You all were slaves and now we let you go free, please don't fight too hard over our scraps. How do think it feels knowing that other than safe places like our Church, we are constantly being judged and assumed to be criminals.
How do you think it feels knowing that there are many countries and places that we can't visit because of racism? I've been told countless times black people should never visit Russia or Australia, yet I've had indian colleagues visit there regularly.
Indian ppl will often say, when they go US they are treated like they're black. But I am TELLING YOU that is RUBBISH. I have travelled with Church groups to Florida, and Indians are basically treated the same as whites, they get respect, they aren't admonished or ignored. Blacks are treated like errand boys and are mostly ignored.
Imagine going to an olive garden with my kids, and being ignored while persons of ALL races will get prompt service.
Do you have any idea how many times I have to see indian and white women clutching their purse or cell phone when we pass by?
Do you not see the discrepancies in funding being given to black schools and health centers?
With referenced to you first two points I believe any one who carefully analyses the situation would realize it has to do with grades and not race. In the US they give preference to minority races for application to certain colleges over grades which is itself racist and I hope to God it never happens here. As to utt it was created for those who couldn't get into uwi because of grades again and not race. Is simple, you want your kids to go to prestige schools tell them to work harder. And these schools are part privately funded as well. As to the discrepencies in funding to black schools and health centres as you it, well we have a black majority govt so what's their excuse?
Since we on race why don't you address the lack of indos in the armed forces. I'd like to hear your views on that
FordeG wrote:As a black man, I am telling you, even here in TRINIDAD, we face extensive racism. May I remind you of these situations:
1. Prestige school placements
2. UWI admissions (why do you think Manning formed UTT?)
3. In any high-end establishment, blacks are only allowed if you mixed or have money or clout (aka Rowley, the Oreo).
4. Job discrimination, they will always prefer a pushover indo vs a strong black person
5. Loan applications, some many Ps and Qs they asking for, but my indo colleague with the same job gets through in record time. Also, why are all the mid level management in RBC and Scotia Indo?
Many of you say slavery shouldn't affect us, but how do you think it feels being black in this world. From the time you born you are being reminded that your people are the lowest rung of society. You all were slaves and now we let you go free, please don't fight too hard over our scraps. How do think it feels knowing that other than safe places like our Church, we are constantly being judged and assumed to be criminals.
How do you think it feels knowing that there are many countries and places that we can't visit because of racism? I've been told countless times black people should never visit Russia or Australia, yet I've had indian colleagues visit there regularly.
Indian ppl will often say, when they go US they are treated like they're black. But I am TELLING YOU that is RUBBISH. I have travelled with Church groups to Florida, and Indians are basically treated the same as whites, they get respect, they aren't admonished or ignored. Blacks are treated like errand boys and are mostly ignored.
Imagine going to an olive garden with my kids, and being ignored while persons of ALL races will get prompt service.
Do you have any idea how many times I have to see indian and white women clutching their purse or cell phone when we pass by?
Do you not see the discrepancies in funding being given to black schools and health centers?
MaxPower wrote:adnj wrote:MaxPower wrote:Redman wrote:Here is the thing.
In those days everybody had a tribe.
That tribe expanded by war.
The losers were enslaved or killed in general.
Asia...japan China Korea all have slavery in their past.
Africa...West and East ..South as .well ask Shaka about his methods.
LATAM...Aztecs and Mayas had their systems of slavery...The Incas AFAIK didn’t..they were socialist.
North American Indians also used to slavery for economic purposes.
In all these cases slavery pre existed the white folk arrival.
All these civilizations were well structured and advanced in their own cultures, of which slavery was part.
What has BLM said about this?
What are their excuses and reasoning for their actions?
Listen, black people need to step up and get out of the bad image that THEY put themselves in. They are making it very unfair for other blacks who are being classed with their behavior.
So many other black people are doing better for themselves, the rest need to follow and stop the blasted complaining.
I haven't seen anything about slavery or Black boys being able to date Indian girls in Trinidad. You probably have it twisted.
Black Lives Matter (BLM) is an organized movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality against African-American people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Liv ... ter%20(BLM)%20is,brutality%20against%20African%2DAmerican%20people.
Ripped from their website:
"#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."
https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/
Who is talking about Trinidad here bro? I think you have it twisted.
Nice history on BLM, where is the part where they condone looting, destruction, violence and racism against white people?
I think you left that part out.
De Dragon wrote:FordeG wrote:As a black man, I am telling you, even here in TRINIDAD, we face extensive racism. May I remind you of these situations:
1. Prestige school placements
2. UWI admissions (why do you think Manning formed UTT?)
3. In any high-end establishment, blacks are only allowed if you mixed or have money or clout (aka Rowley, the Oreo).
4. Job discrimination, they will always prefer a pushover indo vs a strong black person
5. Loan applications, some many Ps and Qs they asking for, but my indo colleague with the same job gets through in record time. Also, why are all the mid level management in RBC and Scotia Indo?
Many of you say slavery shouldn't affect us, but how do you think it feels being black in this world. From the time you born you are being reminded that your people are the lowest rung of society. You all were slaves and now we let you go free, please don't fight too hard over our scraps. How do think it feels knowing that other than safe places like our Church, we are constantly being judged and assumed to be criminals.
Do you have any idea how many times I have to see indian and white women clutching their purse or cell phone when we pass by?
Do you not see the discrepancies in funding being given to black schools and health centers?
FordeG yuh talking sheit. Almost all of our 58 years of self determination were of black majority GORTT's, so are you claiming black on black racism When you endure apartheid/1960's US/Gaza type discrimination, then you would realize what true, brutal racism is. Your problem, like many Trinis, is your arse is too happy.
Redman wrote:De Dragon wrote:FordeG wrote:As a black man, I am telling you, even here in TRINIDAD, we face extensive racism. May I remind you of these situations:
1. Prestige school placements
2. UWI admissions (why do you think Manning formed UTT?)
3. In any high-end establishment, blacks are only allowed if you mixed or have money or clout (aka Rowley, the Oreo).
4. Job discrimination, they will always prefer a pushover indo vs a strong black person
5. Loan applications, some many Ps and Qs they asking for, but my indo colleague with the same job gets through in record time. Also, why are all the mid level management in RBC and Scotia Indo?
Many of you say slavery shouldn't affect us, but how do you think it feels being black in this world. From the time you born you are being reminded that your people are the lowest rung of society. You all were slaves and now we let you go free, please don't fight too hard over our scraps. How do think it feels knowing that other than safe places like our Church, we are constantly being judged and assumed to be criminals.
Do you have any idea how many times I have to see indian and white women clutching their purse or cell phone when we pass by?
Do you not see the discrepancies in funding being given to black schools and health centers?
FordeG yuh talking sheit. Almost all of our 58 years of self determination were of black majority GORTT's, so are you claiming black on black racism When you endure apartheid/1960's US/Gaza type discrimination, then you would realize what true, brutal racism is. Your problem, like many Trinis, is your arse is too happy.
Well said.
Im willing to bet that poor educational results in TnT, ignoring the failures of the system, are causal with social issues and not skin color.
But that isnt a convenient reality for those with their agenda
ETA.
Im willing to agree with the position that the slave trade is responsible for major issues on the African continent-being the source.
Im less inclined-even doubtful that the descendants of the slaves that made it to the destination countries are able to claim the same.
zoom rader wrote:Big up to FordeG as the only tuner to express the black man plight in TT.
Every body else come down on de man .
That's why I never migrated.Ben_spanna wrote:All of you who are standing up to defend your fellow blacks, i commend you, many of you think you are discriminated against, how many of you have ever experienced whats it like to grow up in a country where you are a minority and the entire populations seems to think its ok to mock you or call you by sounds that have been associated with your ethnic culture?
Many of you think making fun of people in the minority is ok, or acceptable, maybe you dont even realise you are being racial... but yes it happens every day.. its been happening everday and people still think its ok to do it...
zoom rader wrote:That's why I never migrated.Ben_spanna wrote:All of you who are standing up to defend your fellow blacks, i commend you, many of you think you are discriminated against, how many of you have ever experienced whats it like to grow up in a country where you are a minority and the entire populations seems to think its ok to mock you or call you by sounds that have been associated with your ethnic culture?
Many of you think making fun of people in the minority is ok, or acceptable, maybe you dont even realise you are being racial... but yes it happens every day.. its been happening everday and people still think its ok to do it...
Make trinidad great agian
FordeG wrote:As a black man, I am telling you, even here in TRINIDAD, we face extensive racism. May I remind you of these situations:
1. Prestige school placements
2. UWI admissions (why do you think Manning formed UTT?)
3. In any high-end establishment, blacks are only allowed if you mixed or have money or clout (aka Rowley, the Oreo).
4. Job discrimination, they will always prefer a pushover indo vs a strong black person
5. Loan applications, some many Ps and Qs they asking for, but my indo colleague with the same job gets through in record time. Also, why are all the mid level management in RBC and Scotia Indo?
Many of you say slavery shouldn't affect us, but how do you think it feels being black in this world. From the time you born you are being reminded that your people are the lowest rung of society. You all were slaves and now we let you go free, please don't fight too hard over our scraps. How do think it feels knowing that other than safe places like our Church, we are constantly being judged and assumed to be criminals.
How do you think it feels knowing that there are many countries and places that we can't visit because of racism? I've been told countless times black people should never visit Russia or Australia, yet I've had indian colleagues visit there regularly.
Indian ppl will often say, when they go US they are treated like they're black. But I am TELLING YOU that is RUBBISH. I have travelled with Church groups to Florida, and Indians are basically treated the same as whites, they get respect, they aren't admonished or ignored. Blacks are treated like errand boys and are mostly ignored.
Imagine going to an olive garden with my kids, and being ignored while persons of ALL races will get prompt service.
Do you have any idea how many times I have to see indian and white women clutching their purse or cell phone when we pass by?
Do you not see the discrepancies in funding being given to black schools and health centers?
Ben_spanna wrote:All of you who are standing up to defend your fellow blacks, i commend you, many of you think you are discriminated against, how many of you have ever experienced whats it like to grow up in a country where you are a minority and the entire populations seems to think its ok to mock you or call you by sounds that have been associated with your ethnic culture?
Many of you think making fun of people in the minority is ok, or acceptable, maybe you dont even realise you are being racial... but yes it happens every day.. its been happening everday and people still think its ok to do it...
Excuses.FordeG wrote:As a black man, I am telling you, even here in TRINIDAD, we face extensive racism. May I remind you of these situations:
1. Prestige school placements
2. UWI admissions (why do you think Manning formed UTT?)
3. In any high-end establishment, blacks are only allowed if you mixed or have money or clout (aka Rowley, the Oreo).
4. Job discrimination, they will always prefer a pushover indo vs a strong black person
5. Loan applications, some many Ps and Qs they asking for, but my indo colleague with the same job gets through in record time. Also, why are all the mid level management in RBC and Scotia Indo?
Many of you say slavery shouldn't affect us, but how do you think it feels being black in this world. From the time you born you are being reminded that your people are the lowest rung of society. You all were slaves and now we let you go free, please don't fight too hard over our scraps. How do think it feels knowing that other than safe places like our Church, we are constantly being judged and assumed to be criminals.
How do you think it feels knowing that there are many countries and places that we can't visit because of racism? I've been told countless times black people should never visit Russia or Australia, yet I've had indian colleagues visit there regularly.
Indian ppl will often say, when they go US they are treated like they're black. But I am TELLING YOU that is RUBBISH. I have travelled with Church groups to Florida, and Indians are basically treated the same as whites, they get respect, they aren't admonished or ignored. Blacks are treated like errand boys and are mostly ignored.
Imagine going to an olive garden with my kids, and being ignored while persons of ALL races will get prompt service.
Do you have any idea how many times I have to see indian and white women clutching their purse or cell phone when we pass by?
Do you not see the discrepancies in funding being given to black schools and health centers?
Eh No.Dizzy28 wrote:zoom rader wrote:That's why I never migrated.Ben_spanna wrote:All of you who are standing up to defend your fellow blacks, i commend you, many of you think you are discriminated against, how many of you have ever experienced whats it like to grow up in a country where you are a minority and the entire populations seems to think its ok to mock you or call you by sounds that have been associated with your ethnic culture?
Many of you think making fun of people in the minority is ok, or acceptable, maybe you dont even realise you are being racial... but yes it happens every day.. its been happening everday and people still think its ok to do it...
Make trinidad great agian
You have migrated. By your own admissions you lived in the UK and Caymans
You have never immigrated
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