TriniTuner.com  |  Latest Event:  

Forums

Riots in the USA

this is how we do it.......

Moderator: 3ne2nr Mods

User avatar
MaxPower
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 14209
Joined: October 31st, 2010, 2:37 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » July 2nd, 2020, 7:24 am

88sins wrote:@ redmanjp, he eh bright enough to figure that out.
First he eating vene culo, then is make believe minimarts and rum shops, now he wanna start suckin on Wong schlong.

Stupid people are easily confused, so us understandable that he can't make up his little mind


Reek,

I see you and your family start roasting used pampers early this morning.

You should be the last person to speak of make believe and confusion. Wasn’t your illiteracy proven when you were quoting things that i never said? Hospitality and Spain trips etc? Hhahaha

Where do you leave your brain when you type?

#fullydunce

Anyways, moving on Reek. I asked about the dogs recently. You got a chance to peruse and respond?
Read it carefully this time, think and respond.

User avatar
88sins
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10173
Joined: July 22nd, 2007, 3:03 pm
Location: Corner of Everywhere Avenue & Nowhere Drive

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby 88sins » July 3rd, 2020, 1:05 pm

meanwhile in other news about murica
https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.j.m91 ... 910487634/

RedVEVO
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 8191
Joined: March 8th, 2017, 1:05 am

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby RedVEVO » July 3rd, 2020, 1:11 pm

MaxPower wrote:
88sins wrote:@ redmanjp, he eh bright enough to figure that out.
First he eating vene culo, then is make believe minimarts and rum shops, now he wanna start suckin on Wong schlong.

Stupid people are easily confused, so us understandable that he can't make up his little mind


Reek,

I see you and your family start roasting used pampers early this morning.

You should be the last person to speak of make believe and confusion. Wasn’t your illiteracy proven when you were quoting things that i never said? Hospitality and Spain trips etc? Hhahaha

Where do you leave your brain when you type?

#fullydunce

Anyways, moving on Reek. I asked about the dogs recently. You got a chance to peruse and respond?
Read it carefully this time, think and respond.


88 times I tell you tuner people de man eating gerra rabbit ..

De rabbit have rabies ..

Hence addiction to stupidity ..

You ever see a smart rabbit ?

User avatar
88sins
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10173
Joined: July 22nd, 2007, 3:03 pm
Location: Corner of Everywhere Avenue & Nowhere Drive

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby 88sins » July 3rd, 2020, 3:44 pm

U eh see u sharing a bunk with rats and roaches?

User avatar
Duane 3NE 2NR
Admin
Posts: 27244
Joined: March 24th, 2003, 10:27 am
Location: T&T
Contact:

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 5th, 2020, 3:06 pm


bluefete
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 13304
Joined: November 12th, 2008, 10:56 pm
Location: POS

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby bluefete » July 5th, 2020, 3:09 pm

^^ If the USA is not careful, they could end up in another civil war.

Now for some history - You will never see this in the mvies or on tv:

Image

User avatar
MaxPower
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 14209
Joined: October 31st, 2010, 2:37 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » July 5th, 2020, 5:30 pm

bluefete wrote:^^ If the USA is not careful, they could end up in another civil war.

Now for some history - You will never see this in the mvies or on tv:

Image


Yeh blues thanks for the history.

What’s the point we getting at here bro?

What is the black people want from this? Money?

They could work for it yunno

adnj
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10100
Joined: February 24th, 2014, 2:55 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby adnj » July 6th, 2020, 2:56 pm

bluefete wrote:^^ If the USA is not careful, they could end up in another civil war.

Now for some history - You will never see this in the mvies or on tv:

Image
Bass Reeves is the opening story from HBO's Watchmen series pilot. The creator/producer/head writer is Jewish, white, was born in NJ, and lives in LA.

User avatar
88sins
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10173
Joined: July 22nd, 2007, 3:03 pm
Location: Corner of Everywhere Avenue & Nowhere Drive

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby 88sins » July 7th, 2020, 12:56 pm

imma just leave this here
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-shows- ... 44516.html

do with it what you will

User avatar
maj. tom
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10976
Joined: March 16th, 2012, 10:47 am
Location: ᑐᑌᑎᕮ

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby maj. tom » July 7th, 2020, 1:08 pm

If it wasn't for the video what would they have said? The same thing like the 3,446 lynchings of black people in US history? If it wasn't for all these videos exposing these incidents, what would have happened? What would have been done?

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 27347
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » July 7th, 2020, 1:22 pm

88sins wrote:imma just leave this here
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-shows- ... 44516.html

do with it what you will


Dem White folk behavior look like PNM ppl behaviors

User avatar
88sins
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10173
Joined: July 22nd, 2007, 3:03 pm
Location: Corner of Everywhere Avenue & Nowhere Drive

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby 88sins » July 7th, 2020, 3:31 pm

maj. tom wrote:If it wasn't for the video what would they have said? The same thing like the 3,446 lynchings of black people in US history? If it wasn't for all these videos exposing these incidents, what would have happened? What would have been done?

you mean besides the usual nothing?

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Redman » July 8th, 2020, 7:21 am

Meanwhile Chicago live seem irrelevant.

Besides the tokenism and knees being taken....do you all see any meaningful change?

alfa
Shifting into 6th
Posts: 2150
Joined: January 19th, 2015, 4:15 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby alfa » July 8th, 2020, 7:37 am

Redman wrote:Meanwhile Chicago live seem irrelevant.

Besides the tokenism and knees being taken....do you all see any meaningful change?

It's like the US press secretary said, she received twelve questions at least from reporters about the Confederate flag but none about the unusually high amount of murders over this holiday weekend in the states. Or about the little black girl that was killed by folks claiming that black lives matter. See a parallel to what's happening here locally? I'm inclining more and more to the belief that these protests have nothing to do with the people they claim to represent or the monuments they want removed. It's about people hating their country their government and the police

Ben_spanna
punchin NOS
Posts: 3055
Joined: October 28th, 2016, 9:25 am

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Ben_spanna » July 8th, 2020, 7:47 am

No video of C. Columbus doing all those things hes been accused of doing , so it didnt happen, ................

User avatar
Duane 3NE 2NR
Admin
Posts: 27244
Joined: March 24th, 2003, 10:27 am
Location: T&T
Contact:

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 20th, 2020, 12:05 am


User avatar
MaxPower
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 14209
Joined: October 31st, 2010, 2:37 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » July 20th, 2020, 12:17 am

^ looks like he is attacking them.

Disability is no excuse for unruly behavior.

Look at him, he is an animal.

But yeh, the Cops wrong.

User avatar
shogun
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 14213
Joined: May 6th, 2008, 12:24 pm
Location: Gone Rogue.

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby shogun » July 20th, 2020, 1:22 am

Damn, I see "buh what about Chicago" is the new "buh Hillary's emails" and reigning dead horse to beat to help deflect from having an honest discussion here? Chicago's murder rate has fallen about 35% in 2017 and a further 13% since 2018, because of huge pushes to curb the violence. Sure, there will still be troubling incidents of violence, but It's primarily gang violence, with an ease of acquiring guns mixed in... it's not going to be stopped overnight. Worse still, Chicago isn't even the leading violent crime/murder per-capita city in the US? Even a state like Alaska is more notorious for violent crime? lol Again, I guess narratives won't push themselves?

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Redman » July 20th, 2020, 7:33 am

Nope narratives don’t push themselves.

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/black-pe ... brutality/

Black People Do Not Suffer Disproportionately From Police Brutality
By James D. Agresti
July 15, 2020

A recent New York Times article by Jeremy W. Peters claims it is a “fact” “that black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” He also asserts that President Trump’s rejection of this accusation is “racially inflammatory” and “racially divisive.” To the contrary, comprehensive facts show that this allegation against police is false. Furthermore, this deception has stoked racial divides and driven people to despise and even murder police officers.

In an interview with CBS News that is slated to air in full tonight, reporter Catherine Herridge asked Trump, “Why are African-Americans still dying at the hands of law enforcement in this country?” He responded that this is a “terrible question” and that “more white people” are killed by police than black people.

CBS News, the New York Times, and many other media outlets are criticizing Trump’s response because blacks are a much smaller portion of the U.S. population than whites. Thus, the odds of being killed by police are higher for each black person than each white person. This frequent argument is highly misleading because it omits facts that are vital to this issue. As detailed in a 2018 paper in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science:

“The most common means of testing for racial disparity in police use of deadly force is to compare the odds of being fatally shot for blacks to the odds of being fatally shot for whites.”
That logic is flawed because it relies upon the false assumption that white and black people commit life-threatening crimes at the same rates.
The rational way to analyze this issue is to compare the odds of being fatally shot to each race’s “involvement in those situations where the police may be more likely to use deadly force.”
Based on four different national datasets on “murder/nonnegligent manslaughter, violent crime, and weapons violations,” “in nearly every case, whites were either more likely to be fatally shot by police or police showed no significant disparity in either direction.”
The facts about murder and police killings underscore this reality. Black people represent about 13% of the U.S. population, at least 53% of murder offenders, and roughly 33% of people killed by police.

The Supreme Court’s 1985 ruling in Tennessee v. Garner forbids police from using lethal force except in situations where there is a genuine risk of “death or serious physical injury.” In 2015, the Washington Post found that over the prior decade an average of about five police officers per year were indicted for violating this standard, and only one per year was convicted.

Likewise, a study conducted by the left-leaning Center for Policing Equity reveals that police are 42% less likely to use lethal force when arresting black people than when arresting whites. Yet, the authors of this study buried that data on the 19th page of a 29-page report and wrote an overview that gives the opposing impression.

Taken together, the facts above disprove the claim that “black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” Yet, media outlets routinely ignore these facts or report them in isolation so that their implications are obscured. Meanwhile, they widely spread the counterfactual message that has inspired racial strife, hatred of the police, and slayings of officers. For example:

Before Ismaaiyl Brinsley murdered New York City policemen Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in 2014, he posted on Instagram: “I’m Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours….. Let’s Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice, #RIPErivGardner and # This may be my final post.”
During a 2016 Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas, TX in which the crowd chanted “Hands up, don’t shoot,” Micah Johnson killed five police officers. During standoff negotiations, he said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. All of the policemen he murdered were white.
Ten days later, Gavin Eugene Long shot six Baton Rouge, Louisiana police officers, killing three of them. His suicide note stated: “I must bring the same destruction that bad cops continue to inflict upon my people,” meaning people of color.
Beyond this, the Times and other media outlets that propagate those racially provocative falsehoods are accusing people who challenge them of stirring racial hostilities.

There are more than 800,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the U.S., and they commit roughly one murder per year. This amounts to an annual murder rate of 0.13 per 100,000—or about 38 times lower than the general U.S. murder rate of 5.0 per 100,000. Police are vetted for criminality, and thus, they should be much less likely to commit murder than the average person. However, police are also faced with life-threatening situations more often than the general public, and this opens doors for violent tendencies to emerge.

Regardless, it is irrational to accuse police or any other group of people of brutality or systemic racism based on the actions of an infinitesimal portion of them. Yet, the media and activists repeatedly do this, even though it is a hallmark tactic of racists and demagogues

Ben_spanna
punchin NOS
Posts: 3055
Joined: October 28th, 2016, 9:25 am

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Ben_spanna » July 20th, 2020, 7:48 am

ameeri-kans know allyuh place- when a police shows up do as they say and shut yuh pie hole! uless you wanna be another dumb kornt like a blm protester

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 27347
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » July 20th, 2020, 8:06 am

Redman wrote:Nope narratives don’t push themselves.

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/black-pe ... brutality/

Black People Do Not Suffer Disproportionately From Police Brutality
By James D. Agresti
July 15, 2020

A recent New York Times article by Jeremy W. Peters claims it is a “fact” “that black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” He also asserts that President Trump’s rejection of this accusation is “racially inflammatory” and “racially divisive.” To the contrary, comprehensive facts show that this allegation against police is false. Furthermore, this deception has stoked racial divides and driven people to despise and even murder police officers.

In an interview with CBS News that is slated to air in full tonight, reporter Catherine Herridge asked Trump, “Why are African-Americans still dying at the hands of law enforcement in this country?” He responded that this is a “terrible question” and that “more white people” are killed by police than black people.

CBS News, the New York Times, and many other media outlets are criticizing Trump’s response because blacks are a much smaller portion of the U.S. population than whites. Thus, the odds of being killed by police are higher for each black person than each white person. This frequent argument is highly misleading because it omits facts that are vital to this issue. As detailed in a 2018 paper in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science:

“The most common means of testing for racial disparity in police use of deadly force is to compare the odds of being fatally shot for blacks to the odds of being fatally shot for whites.”
That logic is flawed because it relies upon the false assumption that white and black people commit life-threatening crimes at the same rates.
The rational way to analyze this issue is to compare the odds of being fatally shot to each race’s “involvement in those situations where the police may be more likely to use deadly force.”
Based on four different national datasets on “murder/nonnegligent manslaughter, violent crime, and weapons violations,” “in nearly every case, whites were either more likely to be fatally shot by police or police showed no significant disparity in either direction.”
The facts about murder and police killings underscore this reality. Black people represent about 13% of the U.S. population, at least 53% of murder offenders, and roughly 33% of people killed by police.

The Supreme Court’s 1985 ruling in Tennessee v. Garner forbids police from using lethal force except in situations where there is a genuine risk of “death or serious physical injury.” In 2015, the Washington Post found that over the prior decade an average of about five police officers per year were indicted for violating this standard, and only one per year was convicted.

Likewise, a study conducted by the left-leaning Center for Policing Equity reveals that police are 42% less likely to use lethal force when arresting black people than when arresting whites. Yet, the authors of this study buried that data on the 19th page of a 29-page report and wrote an overview that gives the opposing impression.

Taken together, the facts above disprove the claim that “black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” Yet, media outlets routinely ignore these facts or report them in isolation so that their implications are obscured. Meanwhile, they widely spread the counterfactual message that has inspired racial strife, hatred of the police, and slayings of officers. For example:

Before Ismaaiyl Brinsley murdered New York City policemen Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in 2014, he posted on Instagram: “I’m Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours….. Let’s Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice, #RIPErivGardner and # This may be my final post.”
During a 2016 Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas, TX in which the crowd chanted “Hands up, don’t shoot,” Micah Johnson killed five police officers. During standoff negotiations, he said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. All of the policemen he murdered were white.
Ten days later, Gavin Eugene Long shot six Baton Rouge, Louisiana police officers, killing three of them. His suicide note stated: “I must bring the same destruction that bad cops continue to inflict upon my people,” meaning people of color.
Beyond this, the Times and other media outlets that propagate those racially provocative falsehoods are accusing people who challenge them of stirring racial hostilities.

There are more than 800,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the U.S., and they commit roughly one murder per year. This amounts to an annual murder rate of 0.13 per 100,000—or about 38 times lower than the general U.S. murder rate of 5.0 per 100,000. Police are vetted for criminality, and thus, they should be much less likely to commit murder than the average person. However, police are also faced with life-threatening situations more often than the general public, and this opens doors for violent tendencies to emerge.

Regardless, it is irrational to accuse police or any other group of people of brutality or systemic racism based on the actions of an infinitesimal portion of them. Yet, the media and activists repeatedly do this, even though it is a hallmark tactic of racists and demagogues


Total Bogus

A Trump and Republican Party supporter

Looks to be a white supremacist

When Peters was in his senior year at the University of Michigan he was a reporter and editor for The Michigan Daily and began contributing to The New York Times as a freelancer. He then worked for two years in the Virgin Islands for The Virgin Islands Daily News before returning to the Times as a reporter for the business and national desks based in Detroit.[4][5] His beats at the Times have included breaking financial news, the media and New York politics. In 2009, while assigned to the Albany bureau, he was part of the team that won the Pulitzer Prize for breaking news [6] for its coverage of the sex scandal that resulted in the resignation of Gov. Eliot Spitzer.

He currently covers the Republican Party and the conservative movement for The New York Times politics desk, and is the author of the forthcoming and tentatively titled "Insurgency: The Inside Story of the Battle for the Soul of the Republican Party." The book is scheduled to be published by Crown Publishing Group in 2021.[5] He was one of several Times journalists featured in the 2018 Showtime documentary "The Fourth Estate."

Redman
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10430
Joined: August 19th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Redman » July 20th, 2020, 8:58 am

zoom rader wrote:
Redman wrote:Nope narratives don’t push themselves.

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/black-pe ... brutality/

Black People Do Not Suffer Disproportionately From Police Brutality
By James D. Agresti
July 15, 2020

A recent New York Times article by Jeremy W. Peters claims it is a “fact” “that black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” He also asserts that President Trump’s rejection of this accusation is “racially inflammatory” and “racially divisive.” To the contrary, comprehensive facts show that this allegation against police is false. Furthermore, this deception has stoked racial divides and driven people to despise and even murder police officers.

In an interview with CBS News that is slated to air in full tonight, reporter Catherine Herridge asked Trump, “Why are African-Americans still dying at the hands of law enforcement in this country?” He responded that this is a “terrible question” and that “more white people” are killed by police than black people.

CBS News, the New York Times, and many other media outlets are criticizing Trump’s response because blacks are a much smaller portion of the U.S. population than whites. Thus, the odds of being killed by police are higher for each black person than each white person. This frequent argument is highly misleading because it omits facts that are vital to this issue. As detailed in a 2018 paper in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science:

“The most common means of testing for racial disparity in police use of deadly force is to compare the odds of being fatally shot for blacks to the odds of being fatally shot for whites.”
That logic is flawed because it relies upon the false assumption that white and black people commit life-threatening crimes at the same rates.
The rational way to analyze this issue is to compare the odds of being fatally shot to each race’s “involvement in those situations where the police may be more likely to use deadly force.”
Based on four different national datasets on “murder/nonnegligent manslaughter, violent crime, and weapons violations,” “in nearly every case, whites were either more likely to be fatally shot by police or police showed no significant disparity in either direction.”
The facts about murder and police killings underscore this reality. Black people represent about 13% of the U.S. population, at least 53% of murder offenders, and roughly 33% of people killed by police.

The Supreme Court’s 1985 ruling in Tennessee v. Garner forbids police from using lethal force except in situations where there is a genuine risk of “death or serious physical injury.” In 2015, the Washington Post found that over the prior decade an average of about five police officers per year were indicted for violating this standard, and only one per year was convicted.

Likewise, a study conducted by the left-leaning Center for Policing Equity reveals that police are 42% less likely to use lethal force when arresting black people than when arresting whites. Yet, the authors of this study buried that data on the 19th page of a 29-page report and wrote an overview that gives the opposing impression.

Taken together, the facts above disprove the claim that “black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” Yet, media outlets routinely ignore these facts or report them in isolation so that their implications are obscured. Meanwhile, they widely spread the counterfactual message that has inspired racial strife, hatred of the police, and slayings of officers. For example:

Before Ismaaiyl Brinsley murdered New York City policemen Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in 2014, he posted on Instagram: “I’m Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours….. Let’s Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice, #RIPErivGardner and # This may be my final post.”
During a 2016 Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas, TX in which the crowd chanted “Hands up, don’t shoot,” Micah Johnson killed five police officers. During standoff negotiations, he said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. All of the policemen he murdered were white.
Ten days later, Gavin Eugene Long shot six Baton Rouge, Louisiana police officers, killing three of them. His suicide note stated: “I must bring the same destruction that bad cops continue to inflict upon my people,” meaning people of color.
Beyond this, the Times and other media outlets that propagate those racially provocative falsehoods are accusing people who challenge them of stirring racial hostilities.

There are more than 800,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the U.S., and they commit roughly one murder per year. This amounts to an annual murder rate of 0.13 per 100,000—or about 38 times lower than the general U.S. murder rate of 5.0 per 100,000. Police are vetted for criminality, and thus, they should be much less likely to commit murder than the average person. However, police are also faced with life-threatening situations more often than the general public, and this opens doors for violent tendencies to emerge.

Regardless, it is irrational to accuse police or any other group of people of brutality or systemic racism based on the actions of an infinitesimal portion of them. Yet, the media and activists repeatedly do this, even though it is a hallmark tactic of racists and demagogues


Total Bogus

A Trump and Republican Party supporter

Looks to be a white supremacist

When Peters was in his senior year at the University of Michigan he was a reporter and editor for The Michigan Daily and began contributing to The New York Times as a freelancer. He then worked for two years in the Virgin Islands for The Virgin Islands Daily News before returning to the Times as a reporter for the business and national desks based in Detroit.[4][5] His beats at the Times have included breaking financial news, the media and New York politics. In 2009, while assigned to the Albany bureau, he was part of the team that won the Pulitzer Prize for breaking news [6] for its coverage of the sex scandal that resulted in the resignation of Gov. Eliot Spitzer.

He currently covers the Republican Party and the conservative movement for The New York Times politics desk, and is the author of the forthcoming and tentatively titled "Insurgency: The Inside Story of the Battle for the Soul of the Republican Party." The book is scheduled to be published by Crown Publishing Group in 2021.[5] He was one of several Times journalists featured in the 2018 Showtime documentary "The Fourth Estate."


ROFL.
you should stop using the internet to justify your position.


Black People Do Not Suffer Disproportionately From Police Brutality

By James D. Agresti
July 15, 2020


Did you make it past the second line?


A recent New York Times article by Jeremy W. Peters claims it is a “fact” “that black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” He also asserts that President Trump’s rejection of this accusation is “racially inflammatory” and “racially divisive.” To the contrary, comprehensive facts show that this allegation against police is false. Furthermore, this deception has stoked racial divides and driven people to despise and even murder police officers.

User avatar
zoom rader
TunerGod
Posts: 27347
Joined: April 22nd, 2003, 12:39 pm
Location: Grand Cayman

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby zoom rader » July 20th, 2020, 11:34 am

Redman wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Redman wrote:Nope narratives don’t push themselves.

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/black-pe ... brutality/

Black People Do Not Suffer Disproportionately From Police Brutality
By James D. Agresti
July 15, 2020

A recent New York Times article by Jeremy W. Peters claims it is a “fact” “that black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” He also asserts that President Trump’s rejection of this accusation is “racially inflammatory” and “racially divisive.” To the contrary, comprehensive facts show that this allegation against police is false. Furthermore, this deception has stoked racial divides and driven people to despise and even murder police officers.

In an interview with CBS News that is slated to air in full tonight, reporter Catherine Herridge asked Trump, “Why are African-Americans still dying at the hands of law enforcement in this country?” He responded that this is a “terrible question” and that “more white people” are killed by police than black people.

CBS News, the New York Times, and many other media outlets are criticizing Trump’s response because blacks are a much smaller portion of the U.S. population than whites. Thus, the odds of being killed by police are higher for each black person than each white person. This frequent argument is highly misleading because it omits facts that are vital to this issue. As detailed in a 2018 paper in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science:

“The most common means of testing for racial disparity in police use of deadly force is to compare the odds of being fatally shot for blacks to the odds of being fatally shot for whites.”
That logic is flawed because it relies upon the false assumption that white and black people commit life-threatening crimes at the same rates.
The rational way to analyze this issue is to compare the odds of being fatally shot to each race’s “involvement in those situations where the police may be more likely to use deadly force.”
Based on four different national datasets on “murder/nonnegligent manslaughter, violent crime, and weapons violations,” “in nearly every case, whites were either more likely to be fatally shot by police or police showed no significant disparity in either direction.”
The facts about murder and police killings underscore this reality. Black people represent about 13% of the U.S. population, at least 53% of murder offenders, and roughly 33% of people killed by police.

The Supreme Court’s 1985 ruling in Tennessee v. Garner forbids police from using lethal force except in situations where there is a genuine risk of “death or serious physical injury.” In 2015, the Washington Post found that over the prior decade an average of about five police officers per year were indicted for violating this standard, and only one per year was convicted.

Likewise, a study conducted by the left-leaning Center for Policing Equity reveals that police are 42% less likely to use lethal force when arresting black people than when arresting whites. Yet, the authors of this study buried that data on the 19th page of a 29-page report and wrote an overview that gives the opposing impression.

Taken together, the facts above disprove the claim that “black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” Yet, media outlets routinely ignore these facts or report them in isolation so that their implications are obscured. Meanwhile, they widely spread the counterfactual message that has inspired racial strife, hatred of the police, and slayings of officers. For example:

Before Ismaaiyl Brinsley murdered New York City policemen Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in 2014, he posted on Instagram: “I’m Putting Wings On Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours….. Let’s Take 2 of Theirs #ShootThePolice, #RIPErivGardner and # This may be my final post.”
During a 2016 Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas, TX in which the crowd chanted “Hands up, don’t shoot,” Micah Johnson killed five police officers. During standoff negotiations, he said he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. All of the policemen he murdered were white.
Ten days later, Gavin Eugene Long shot six Baton Rouge, Louisiana police officers, killing three of them. His suicide note stated: “I must bring the same destruction that bad cops continue to inflict upon my people,” meaning people of color.
Beyond this, the Times and other media outlets that propagate those racially provocative falsehoods are accusing people who challenge them of stirring racial hostilities.

There are more than 800,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the U.S., and they commit roughly one murder per year. This amounts to an annual murder rate of 0.13 per 100,000—or about 38 times lower than the general U.S. murder rate of 5.0 per 100,000. Police are vetted for criminality, and thus, they should be much less likely to commit murder than the average person. However, police are also faced with life-threatening situations more often than the general public, and this opens doors for violent tendencies to emerge.

Regardless, it is irrational to accuse police or any other group of people of brutality or systemic racism based on the actions of an infinitesimal portion of them. Yet, the media and activists repeatedly do this, even though it is a hallmark tactic of racists and demagogues


Total Bogus

A Trump and Republican Party supporter

Looks to be a white supremacist

When Peters was in his senior year at the University of Michigan he was a reporter and editor for The Michigan Daily and began contributing to The New York Times as a freelancer. He then worked for two years in the Virgin Islands for The Virgin Islands Daily News before returning to the Times as a reporter for the business and national desks based in Detroit.[4][5] His beats at the Times have included breaking financial news, the media and New York politics. In 2009, while assigned to the Albany bureau, he was part of the team that won the Pulitzer Prize for breaking news [6] for its coverage of the sex scandal that resulted in the resignation of Gov. Eliot Spitzer.

He currently covers the Republican Party and the conservative movement for The New York Times politics desk, and is the author of the forthcoming and tentatively titled "Insurgency: The Inside Story of the Battle for the Soul of the Republican Party." The book is scheduled to be published by Crown Publishing Group in 2021.[5] He was one of several Times journalists featured in the 2018 Showtime documentary "The Fourth Estate."


ROFL.
you should stop using the internet to justify your position.


Black People Do Not Suffer Disproportionately From Police Brutality

By James D. Agresti
July 15, 2020


Did you make it past the second line?


A recent New York Times article by Jeremy W. Peters claims it is a “fact” “that black people suffer disproportionately from police brutality.” He also asserts that President Trump’s rejection of this accusation is “racially inflammatory” and “racially divisive.” To the contrary, comprehensive facts show that this allegation against police is false. Furthermore, this deception has stoked racial divides and driven people to despise and even murder police officers.


James D. Agresti is a Mechanical Engineer and is bogus

adnj
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10100
Joined: February 24th, 2014, 2:55 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby adnj » July 20th, 2020, 11:51 am

Tens of thousands of Americans set to strike in protest over racial inequality | US news


Martin Belam and agencies

Mon 20 Jul 2020 15.06 BST

Organisers of the Strike For Black Lives said tens of thousands of Americans were set to walk out of work in more than two dozen cities at noon on Monday, to protest against systemic racism and economic inequality.

At noon in each time zone, workers were expected to take a knee for just short of nine minutes, the amount of time prosecutors say white police officer Derek Chauvin held his knee on George Floyd’s neck before Floyd died in Minneapolis on 25 May.

Labour unions and social and racial justice organizations from New York to Los Angeles were set to participate. Where work stoppages were not possible for a full day, participants would either picket during a lunch break or observe moments of silence to honour black lives lost to police violence, organisers said.

“We are … building a country where Black lives matter in every aspect of society, including in the workplace,” Ash-Lee Henderson, an organiser with the Movement for Black Lives, told the Associated Press.

“The Strike for Black Lives is a moment of reckoning for corporations that have long ignored the concerns of their black workforce and denied them better working conditions, living wages and healthcare.”

Among the strikers will be essential workers including nursing home employees, janitors and delivery men and women. Fast food, ride-share and airport workers are also expected to take part.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... inequality

matr1x
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 7126
Joined: February 25th, 2017, 7:46 am

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby matr1x » July 20th, 2020, 12:20 pm

Fire dey MC

adnj
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10100
Joined: February 24th, 2014, 2:55 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby adnj » July 20th, 2020, 7:19 pm

Michigan judge denies release of teenage girl who was jailed after not doing homework


"There's a lot of students like Grace. They're put into the criminal justice system as children instead of getting the help they really need," she said. "Why does mental health and behavioral health treatment have to come at a cost of being held in a detention center?"


July 20, 2020, 4:35 PM EDT

By Erik Ortiz

A 15-year-old Black girl who has been incarcerated in Michigan since mid-May after she failed to do her online schoolwork won't be returning home, a judge decided Monday, in a case that has stoked outrage that it is emblematic of systemic racism and the criminalization of Black children.

Oakland County Judge Mary Ellen Brennan determined that the girl has been benefiting from a residential treatment program at a juvenile detention center, but is not yet ready to be with her mother. Brennan, the presiding judge of the court's Family Division, scheduled another hearing for September, NBC affiliate WDIV reported.

The girl, who is being identified only by her middle name, Grace, was the subject of a report published last week by ProPublica Illinois, with politicians and community activists expressing outrage over her incarceration.

During a three-hour proceeding, Brennan told Grace that it was in her best interest to stay in the program after all of the progress she had been making.

"Give yourself a chance to follow through and finish something," Brennan said, according to the Detroit News. "The right thing is for you and your mom to be separated for right now."

Grace, however, told the judge that she wanted to go home: "I miss my mom. I can control myself. I can be obedient."

After the hearing, an attorney for the family, Jonathan Biernat, confirmed that Grace had been making strides, but the "fight for her release" is ongoing. He was unavailable for further comment later Monday.

This past school year, Grace was a sophomore at Groves High School in the Birmingham Public Schools, which is 79 percent white, according to school district data.

Over the past few days, parents and students in suburban Detroit have protested in support of Grace's release from the Children's Village in Oakland County, the detention center where she's been held in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

At Monday's hearing, Brennan stressed that police had responded to incidents between the mother and the daughter three times, and that Grace's detainment was the result of that, the Detroit News reported.

"She was not detained because she didn't turn her homework in," Brennan said. "She was detained because she was a threat to her mother."

Brennan also addressed the scrutiny the case has come under.

"My role is to make decisions that are in this young lady's best interest, period," Brennan said. "I took an oath that I would not be swayed by public clamor or fear of criticism."

Rep. Debbie Dingell, D-Mich., is among those who have questioned whether race was a factor in detaining Grace. Black youth in Michigan are more than four times as likely to be detained or committed than white youth, according to 2015 data analyzed by the nonprofit Sentencing Project.

"If it was a white young person, I really question whether the judge would have done this," Dingell said Monday on MSNBC. "Putting a young person in a confined area in the midst of COVID isn't the answer."

On Thursday, the Michigan Supreme Court said it would review the circumstances surrounding Grace's detainment.

Her case not only touches upon the issue of racial bias within the criminal justice system, but is also entwined with larger concerns over the coronavirus' spread in juvenile detention centers, as well as how children with learning disabilities are being disparately affected during the pandemic as a result of home schooling.

According to ProPublica, Grace has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and receives special education services.

The girl and her mother, identified as Charisse, had bouts of conflict. In 2018, Grace was placed into a court diversion program for "incorrigibility," but was released from it early, Charisse told ProPublica.

In November, an assault charge was filed against Grace after police were called to an incident in which the mother said Grace became violent because she was upset she couldn't go to a friend's house. Weeks later, according to ProPublica, Grace was charged with larceny after she was caught on surveillance video stealing another student's cellphone from a school locker room. The phone was subsequently returned.

A juvenile court hearing was held virtually in April, and a caseworker told the judge that Grace should receive mental health and anger management treatment at a residential facility; the prosecutor agreed. A court-appointed attorney asked for probation for Grace because she had not been in any further trouble since November and because of COVID-19 concerns at detention facilities, ProPublica reported.

"My mom and I are working each day to better ourselves and our relationship, and I think that the removal from my home would be an intrusion on our progress," Grace said at the time, according to ProPublica.

Brennan sentenced Grace to "intensive probation," with several requirements, including staying home, checking in with a caseworker, no phone use and completing her schoolwork. But the girl was unable to focus properly while learning from home, and she told a new caseworker in April that she felt anxious about the probation and overwhelmed.

After her caseworker learned she had fallen back asleep one day and failed to do her homework, a hearing was held in May and the judge decided she had violated the terms of her probation.

ProPublica noted that Grace's teacher had told the caseworker in an email that Grace was "not out of alignment with most of my other students," and how she was coping was "no one's fault because we did not see this unprecedented global pandemic coming."

Grace was ordered to juvenile detention because she was deemed a "threat to community as original charge was assault and theft," according to court records.

Grace's supporters say the court's decision to incarcerate her simply underscores the racial disparities in even the juvenile system. According to ProPublica, from January 2016 through June 2020, about 4,800 juvenile cases were referred to the Oakland County Circuit Court. About 42 percent involved Black youth, although the population in the county is about 15 percent.

Tylene Henry, who has a teenage son in the local school district and was among several supporters outside of the courthouse Monday, said she doesn't know Grace, but her situation has "opened up my eyes to the school-to-prison pipeline problem."

Henry said she supports Grace's release and a larger overhaul of the juvenile system.

"There's a lot of students like Grace. They're put into the criminal justice system as children instead of getting the help they really need," she said. "Why does mental health and behavioral health treatment have to come at a cost of being held in a detention center?"

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mi ... r-n1234377

User avatar
MaxPower
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 14209
Joined: October 31st, 2010, 2:37 pm

Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » July 20th, 2020, 10:00 pm

matr1x wrote:Fire dey MC


Hello Slim,

I agree with your comments.

This BLM racist nonsense has to stop.

adnj
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 10100
Joined: February 24th, 2014, 2:55 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby adnj » July 21st, 2020, 5:06 am

And again...

Ripped from their website:
"#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

MaxPower wrote:
matr1x wrote:Fire dey MC


Hello Slim,

I agree with your comments.

This BLM racist nonsense has to stop.


adnj wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
adnj wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
Redman wrote:Here is the thing.

In those days everybody had a tribe.
That tribe expanded by war.
The losers were enslaved or killed in general.

Asia...japan China Korea all have slavery in their past.
Africa...West and East ..South as .well ask Shaka about his methods.
LATAM...Aztecs and Mayas had their systems of slavery...The Incas AFAIK didn’t..they were socialist.
North American Indians also used to slavery for economic purposes.

In all these cases slavery pre existed the white folk arrival.
All these civilizations were well structured and advanced in their own cultures, of which slavery was part.


What has BLM said about this?

What are their excuses and reasoning for their actions?

Listen, black people need to step up and get out of the bad image that THEY put themselves in. They are making it very unfair for other blacks who are being classed with their behavior.

So many other black people are doing better for themselves, the rest need to follow and stop the blasted complaining.


I haven't seen anything about slavery or Black boys being able to date Indian girls in Trinidad. You probably have it twisted.

Black Lives Matter (BLM) is an organized movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality against African-American people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Liv ... ter%20(BLM)%20is,brutality%20against%20African%2DAmerican%20people.

Ripped from their website:
"#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/


Who is talking about Trinidad here bro? I think you have it twisted.

Nice history on BLM, where is the part where they condone looting, destruction, violence and racism against white people?

I think you left that part out.


You are posting in a thread that you haven't read... sign held by a protester in front of the US Embassy in Trinidad.

User avatar
Les Bain
3ne2nr Toppa Toppa
Posts: 5063
Joined: May 17th, 2012, 9:46 pm
Location: Cruising for chicks

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby Les Bain » July 21st, 2020, 5:56 am

Speaking of Travon Martin's murderer, where is he lately?

I know a few years ago he would pop up for attention buy he appears to finally have gone quiet.

User avatar
MaxPower
TriniTuner 24-7
Posts: 14209
Joined: October 31st, 2010, 2:37 pm

Re: Riots in the USA

Postby MaxPower » July 21st, 2020, 5:57 am

adnj wrote:And again...

Ripped from their website:
"#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

MaxPower wrote:
matr1x wrote:Fire dey MC


Hello Slim,

I agree with your comments.

This BLM racist nonsense has to stop.


adnj wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
adnj wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
Redman wrote:Here is the thing.

In those days everybody had a tribe.
That tribe expanded by war.
The losers were enslaved or killed in general.

Asia...japan China Korea all have slavery in their past.
Africa...West and East ..South as .well ask Shaka about his methods.
LATAM...Aztecs and Mayas had their systems of slavery...The Incas AFAIK didn’t..they were socialist.
North American Indians also used to slavery for economic purposes.

In all these cases slavery pre existed the white folk arrival.
All these civilizations were well structured and advanced in their own cultures, of which slavery was part.


What has BLM said about this?

What are their excuses and reasoning for their actions?

Listen, black people need to step up and get out of the bad image that THEY put themselves in. They are making it very unfair for other blacks who are being classed with their behavior.

So many other black people are doing better for themselves, the rest need to follow and stop the blasted complaining.


I haven't seen anything about slavery or Black boys being able to date Indian girls in Trinidad. You probably have it twisted.

Black Lives Matter (BLM) is an organized movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality against African-American people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Liv ... ter%20(BLM)%20is,brutality%20against%20African%2DAmerican%20people.

Ripped from their website:
"#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/


Who is talking about Trinidad here bro? I think you have it twisted.

Nice history on BLM, where is the part where they condone looting, destruction, violence and racism against white people?

I think you left that part out.


You are posting in a thread that you haven't read... sign held by a protester in front of the US Embassy in Trinidad.


Lol again,

Copying and pasting doesn’t make you appear smart eh. You have book sense, but no common sense.

BLM fights violence with violence and racism with racism......stop using your fingers and use your eyes to see what’s happening around you.

But while you are at it....copy paste me some articles on how BLM burns cities and harm the innocent everytime a criminal is killed.

Advertisement

Return to “Ole talk and more Ole talk”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: wx_klb and 133 guests