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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dohplaydat » April 1st, 2021, 9:23 pm

sMASH wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
sMASH wrote:Train 1 saved, m4 and m5 sowweee.

And is a good ting proman had their own source of natgss, or m2 and m3 was down too. d2d161675962906938355eeadefca30a.0.jpeg

StinkFack Red Colostomy Bag should hang his dotish head in utter shame for defending LFD RFD PNM and their continued decimation of Pt, Lisas. Imagine 7150 MT of methanol per day lost for JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels incompetence. Imagine $300M spent on a plant we don't even own, but BILLIONS in revenue evaporating before our very eyes at Pt. Lisas and this absolute kant of a arse Red Colostomy Bag talking about he husband and dem managing the energy economy.


wE dOnT kNo EkOnOmIkS oR fInAnCe So We DoNt KnOw RoWlEy HaNdLiNg It WeLl

m5000 was world renowned for tying for the largest meoh plants in the world, then it took the mantle by an additional 400mt capacity from a purge gas reactor.

u know how bobolie we looking that we let that plant shut down due to gas shortage? we also had the largest cooling tower in the western hemisphere, in pcs, now nutrien.

the other people when they find out we let the 5400mt meoh plant shut down to funnel gas to an lng plant, and still pay the whole 300m TAR... they prolly laffing... cause lng is jess chilling the natural gas, till it liquefies and then ship it to 'muricah.
lng is jess a big ice factory, using methane instead of water.


Who's fault is this? Honest question

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » April 1st, 2021, 9:32 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
sMASH wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
sMASH wrote:Train 1 saved, m4 and m5 sowweee.

And is a good ting proman had their own source of natgss, or m2 and m3 was down too. d2d161675962906938355eeadefca30a.0.jpeg

StinkFack Red Colostomy Bag should hang his dotish head in utter shame for defending LFD RFD PNM and their continued decimation of Pt, Lisas. Imagine 7150 MT of methanol per day lost for JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels incompetence. Imagine $300M spent on a plant we don't even own, but BILLIONS in revenue evaporating before our very eyes at Pt. Lisas and this absolute kant of a arse Red Colostomy Bag talking about he husband and dem managing the energy economy.


wE dOnT kNo EkOnOmIkS oR fInAnCe So We DoNt KnOw RoWlEy HaNdLiNg It WeLl

m5000 was world renowned for tying for the largest meoh plants in the world, then it took the mantle by an additional 400mt capacity from a purge gas reactor.

u know how bobolie we looking that we let that plant shut down due to gas shortage? we also had the largest cooling tower in the western hemisphere, in pcs, now nutrien.

the other people when they find out we let the 5400mt meoh plant shut down to funnel gas to an lng plant, and still pay the whole 300m TAR... they prolly laffing... cause lng is jess chilling the natural gas, till it liquefies and then ship it to 'muricah.
lng is jess a big ice factory, using methane instead of water.


Who's fault is this? Honest question

Primarily the LFD RFD PNM. While curtailments started on the Estate during 2010 under the UNC, companies coped by increasing efficiencies elsewhere, however since Red Colostomy Bag's Gods JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels went and "negotiated" a gas price which made companies unable to profitably continue operations, we have seen for the very first time, closures with price being cited as the contributory factor.
Don't worry, our 20% stake in 2 LNG plants, one of which presently has no gas supply, and which we fully funded a TAR to the tune of $300M, will more than make up for the shortfall, according to LFD RFD PNM economist Red Colostomy Bag.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby timelapse » April 1st, 2021, 9:50 pm

You sound like a jilted ex-lover there hoss.
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timelapse wrote:Ngc is the new petrotrin


Thank Bandit Jamka for that. They looted the NGC of BILLIONS, but fools like De Ms. man and Zoomie so dotish they go deny it

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » April 1st, 2021, 10:23 pm

De Dragon wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
sMASH wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
sMASH wrote:Train 1 saved, m4 and m5 sowweee.

And is a good ting proman had their own source of natgss, or m2 and m3 was down too. d2d161675962906938355eeadefca30a.0.jpeg

StinkFack Red Colostomy Bag should hang his dotish head in utter shame for defending LFD RFD PNM and their continued decimation of Pt, Lisas. Imagine 7150 MT of methanol per day lost for JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels incompetence. Imagine $300M spent on a plant we don't even own, but BILLIONS in revenue evaporating before our very eyes at Pt. Lisas and this absolute kant of a arse Red Colostomy Bag talking about he husband and dem managing the energy economy.


wE dOnT kNo EkOnOmIkS oR fInAnCe So We DoNt KnOw RoWlEy HaNdLiNg It WeLl

m5000 was world renowned for tying for the largest meoh plants in the world, then it took the mantle by an additional 400mt capacity from a purge gas reactor.

u know how bobolie we looking that we let that plant shut down due to gas shortage? we also had the largest cooling tower in the western hemisphere, in pcs, now nutrien.

the other people when they find out we let the 5400mt meoh plant shut down to funnel gas to an lng plant, and still pay the whole 300m TAR... they prolly laffing... cause lng is jess chilling the natural gas, till it liquefies and then ship it to 'muricah.
lng is jess a big ice factory, using methane instead of water.


Who's fault is this? Honest question

Primarily the LFD RFD PNM. While curtailments started on the Estate during 2010 under the UNC, companies coped by increasing efficiencies elsewhere, however since Red Colostomy Bag's Gods JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels went and "negotiated" a gas price which made companies unable to profitably continue operations, we have seen for the very first time, closures with price being cited as the contributory factor.
Don't worry, our 20% stake in 2 LNG plants, one of which presently has no gas supply, and which we fully funded a TAR to the tune of $300M, will more than make up for the shortfall, according to LFD RFD PNM economist Red Colostomy Bag.

in the 2010 to 2015 period u made a few plant rate adjustments a month for the most, and was practically tweaking. from 2015 onwards, u adjust plants from the minimum steady state to its max, some times each shift. one time i know we did it 3 times in one shift. some plants, like m1 used to be the sacrificial plant to take off line totally, to share that feed to the other plants, and still sometimes ngc called to cut back.
loquan played srs hard ball from 2015 later. it got so bad, what methanex and proman is doing now, u heard all the way back then those numbers were being crunched on the shareholders side in the amonia division. cause they also had plants where shale gas is ready... so dont really need to suffer trinidad shortages. they had options.
although it was one company doing workers and one company doing plants, the shareholdings within each site were vastly different, to the decisions making was differnt from site to site.

the 'unitizing' that red plastic talking bout, as being a big deal in how to negotiate, is a bunch of hogwash. within the complex the shareholding and decision making clout remains the same. its only when they deal with external parties, they have some means of power of saying that they have 4 trains worth of raw material or product to deal with, instead of each train negotiating with their own selves.
trinidad has 10% in one train and 11% in another after u unitize, trinidad will buss down to 5% shares of the whole lng complex. ur bargaining power just cut in half.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » April 1st, 2021, 10:44 pm

sMASH wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
sMASH wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
sMASH wrote:Train 1 saved, m4 and m5 sowweee.

And is a good ting proman had their own source of natgss, or m2 and m3 was down too. d2d161675962906938355eeadefca30a.0.jpeg

StinkFack Red Colostomy Bag should hang his dotish head in utter shame for defending LFD RFD PNM and their continued decimation of Pt, Lisas. Imagine 7150 MT of methanol per day lost for JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels incompetence. Imagine $300M spent on a plant we don't even own, but BILLIONS in revenue evaporating before our very eyes at Pt. Lisas and this absolute kant of a arse Red Colostomy Bag talking about he husband and dem managing the energy economy.


wE dOnT kNo EkOnOmIkS oR fInAnCe So We DoNt KnOw RoWlEy HaNdLiNg It WeLl

m5000 was world renowned for tying for the largest meoh plants in the world, then it took the mantle by an additional 400mt capacity from a purge gas reactor.

u know how bobolie we looking that we let that plant shut down due to gas shortage? we also had the largest cooling tower in the western hemisphere, in pcs, now nutrien.

the other people when they find out we let the 5400mt meoh plant shut down to funnel gas to an lng plant, and still pay the whole 300m TAR... they prolly laffing... cause lng is jess chilling the natural gas, till it liquefies and then ship it to 'muricah.
lng is jess a big ice factory, using methane instead of water.


Who's fault is this? Honest question

Primarily the LFD RFD PNM. While curtailments started on the Estate during 2010 under the UNC, companies coped by increasing efficiencies elsewhere, however since Red Colostomy Bag's Gods JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels went and "negotiated" a gas price which made companies unable to profitably continue operations, we have seen for the very first time, closures with price being cited as the contributory factor.
Don't worry, our 20% stake in 2 LNG plants, one of which presently has no gas supply, and which we fully funded a TAR to the tune of $300M, will more than make up for the shortfall, according to LFD RFD PNM economist Red Colostomy Bag.

in the 2010 to 2015 period u made a few plant rate adjustments a month for the most, and was practically tweaking. from 2015 onwards, u adjust plants from the minimum steady state to its max, some times each shift. one time i know we did it 3 times in one shift. some plants, like m1 used to be the sacrificial plant to take off line totally, to share that feed to the other plants, and still sometimes ngc called to cut back.
loquan played srs hard ball from 2015 later. it got so bad, what methanex and proman is doing now, u heard all the way back then those numbers were being crunched on the shareholders side in the amonia division. cause they also had plants where shale gas is ready... so dont really need to suffer trinidad shortages. they had options.
although it was one company doing workers and one company doing plants, the shareholdings within each site were vastly different, to the decisions making was differnt from site to site.

the 'unitizing' that red plastic talking bout, as being a big deal in how to negotiate, is a bunch of hogwash. within the complex the shareholding and decision making clout remains the same. its only when they deal with external parties, they have some means of power of saying that they have 4 trains worth of raw material or product to deal with, instead of each train negotiating with their own selves.
trinidad has 10% in one train and 11% in another after u unitize, trinidad will buss down to 5% shares of the whole lng complex. ur bargaining power just cut in half.

Red Colostomy Bag said that is a normal practice :roll: This dross kant doesn't realize that in addition to production cuts and the attendant drop in revenue, when you cycle the plants like that, you reduce the life span of critical equipment.
He'll pull his usual dotish routine of staying quiet, then come with some sheit spin about Poten and transfer price nonsense.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » April 1st, 2021, 11:02 pm

can he buy a reformer tube?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Dohplaydat » April 1st, 2021, 11:06 pm

Makes us long for the days when we had competent ministers like Kevin Ramnarine, too bad Kamla kicked him out.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » April 1st, 2021, 11:10 pm

sMASH wrote:can he buy a reformer tube?

I doubt he could even spell reformer tube :roll:

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » April 2nd, 2021, 10:57 am

Dragon yuh toting.. that's for children.

.....meanwhile you should go back in the threads and see what the recommendation is...re PTL and LNG...just get past the exec summary.

Yep Poten and Associates and Farrell talking crap.
Ramnarine know what he was doing.
He hired Poten and Associates.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » April 2nd, 2021, 11:27 am

Hard to decide Tuner Bobolee

Redman or Pastor P¤rnhabit 7

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » April 2nd, 2021, 8:55 pm

zoom rader wrote:Hard to decide Tuner Bobolee

Redman or Pastor P¤rnhabit 7

It's a tie, dem equally dotish. :lol: :lol:

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » April 3rd, 2021, 10:39 am

Explain
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby DreamWeaver » April 3rd, 2021, 11:29 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Explain


Well the ngc's gas price is too high now for interim short term contracts and proman/mhtl decided it isnt profitable to run the plants like that. The contract ended back in september 2020 and they've had interim agreements since then while they continued to negotiate for a longer 3 to 5 yr contract. After 6 months, no agreement has been made on a long term contract. Plants shut down while the negotiations continue. If there is an agreement, they get gas and start back. If not, see the Titan plant's outcome

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » April 6th, 2021, 1:19 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Explain

Basically the price deemed by Proman to be the absolute highest that they can pay, and still be economically feasible is not the price being offered by NGC. Maybe when the negotiating "Dans" JUHN Scarfy and Goebbels recover from Covid-19, they'll lend their expertise to this issue, like they did with Shell/BP :roll:

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Gladiator » April 11th, 2021, 1:30 am

Somebody crack open the barrel of worms...

https://www.facebook.com/578621119/post ... 260426120/

Senior Government official suspected of being involved in “criminal conspiracy :
Minister writes Gary Griffith, Requests Probe.
Via the Express Newspaper

"I have no comment to make. It is going to be war this time.”

That was the response of a senior Government official suspected of being involved in “criminal conspiracy” involving the granting of several tenancies for State land.

Minister of Agriculture, Lands and Fisheries Clarence Rambharat has written to Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith asking for a probe into the matter.

Contacted by the Sunday Express on April 2 and informed of the details of Rambharat’s complaint and the fact it was sent to the Prime Minister and the Commissioner of Police, and it alleged involvement in a criminal-level conspiracy to grant a benefit to a daughter and other relatives, the official said: “I have no comment to make.”

Minister of Agriculture, Lands and Fisheries Clarence Rambha­rat has written to Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith requesting an investigation into a possible “criminal conspiracy” involving two senior public officers in the granting of several tenancies for State lands.

In a letter dated November 3, 2020, Rambharat asked Griffith to have the matters referred to the Fraud Squad.

“These matters require further investigation and urgent action to defeat any interest or expectation created by the tenancy agreements executed by the parties,” the minister wrote.

Rambharat said in the letter that his examination of the documents raised serious concerns regarding his view (held) since 2017 that in relation to several State Land matters, the conduct of a top Government official “was collusive and conspi­ratorial”.

He said it “points to the strong prospect that conflict of interest ­ri­sing to the level of a criminal conspiracy between (names of two officials called) for the benefit of close relatives and associates of relatives of one of the officials to abandon the required oversight of the Ministry’s Land Management Division, and the other (a subordinate), in particular, notwithstanding my continuous cautions”.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » April 11th, 2021, 6:41 am

Gladiator wrote:Somebody crack open the barrel of worms...

https://www.facebook.com/578621119/post ... 260426120/

Senior Government official suspected of being involved in “criminal conspiracy :
Minister writes Gary Griffith, Requests Probe.
Via the Express Newspaper

"I have no comment to make. It is going to be war this time.”

That was the response of a senior Government official suspected of being involved in “criminal conspiracy” involving the granting of several tenancies for State land.

Minister of Agriculture, Lands and Fisheries Clarence Rambharat has written to Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith asking for a probe into the matter.

Contacted by the Sunday Express on April 2 and informed of the details of Rambharat’s complaint and the fact it was sent to the Prime Minister and the Commissioner of Police, and it alleged involvement in a criminal-level conspiracy to grant a benefit to a daughter and other relatives, the official said: “I have no comment to make.”

Minister of Agriculture, Lands and Fisheries Clarence Rambha­rat has written to Commissioner of Police Gary Griffith requesting an investigation into a possible “criminal conspiracy” involving two senior public officers in the granting of several tenancies for State lands.

In a letter dated November 3, 2020, Rambharat asked Griffith to have the matters referred to the Fraud Squad.

“These matters require further investigation and urgent action to defeat any interest or expectation created by the tenancy agreements executed by the parties,” the minister wrote.

Rambharat said in the letter that his examination of the documents raised serious concerns regarding his view (held) since 2017 that in relation to several State Land matters, the conduct of a top Government official “was collusive and conspi­ratorial”.

He said it “points to the strong prospect that conflict of interest ­ri­sing to the level of a criminal conspiracy between (names of two officials called) for the benefit of close relatives and associates of relatives of one of the officials to abandon the required oversight of the Ministry’s Land Management Division, and the other (a subordinate), in particular, notwithstanding my continuous cautions”.

Somebody vex Pepper Spray, first Ainsley Gill, now whoever these allegedly LFD RFD PNM are. Hope he knows the chances of this going anywhere are slim to none.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » April 11th, 2021, 11:34 pm

aksin gg to investigate land fraud?... hmmmm.

didnt come here for all dat.
just came to chook that malcom jones gave the country the now NiQUAN wgtl project, and kevin ramnarine gave the country the Mitsubishi CGCL project

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby De Dragon » April 12th, 2021, 12:39 pm

sMASH wrote:aksin gg to investigate land fraud?... hmmmm.

didnt come here for all dat.
just came to chook that malcom jones gave the country the now NiQUAN wgtl project, and kevin ramnarine gave the country the Mitsubishi CGCL project

Well old/refurb/foreign used can't really compare to brand spanking new, so maybe a better comparison was how much mismanagement, theft and corruption took place for both projects.......

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » April 15th, 2021, 7:04 am

While the rest of the western hemisphere begins to back slowly out of the epidemic, we listen to promises about when TT will get vaccines, at least to boost our confidence in being able to do almost-forgotten things like go to a Machel Montano concert, eat in a restaurant and send our children back to school.

We all know that the 33,600 doses of vaccine that hit the headlines last week amount to enough to inject
less than one per cent of the population. Do the maths and let everybody know how many days or months it will take, at 1,000 vaccinations a day, if you can get through to the 23 clinics, to get around to the rest of us.

We live on promises, like the vaccines from India, which finally arrived this week, the 2011 promise from the then minister of energy that the price of gas that sustained virtually all our downstream industries would be fixed (but wasn’t), or the promise by the subsequent minister of energy in 2017 that his administration, through the prime minister, would fix it (but didn’t).

Those are just some of the political promises we listen to as we watch what is left of our economy steadily dwindle. Business may not be able to offer the inflexibility of employment or the frozen protection that the public service offers, but it is the business sector that must generate income and pay taxes upon which the public service lives. It was ever so.

I remember one high official on the government benches in the Senate boasting that she had joined the teaching service many years earlier because “that meant I would never be fired, no matter what.”

There was an audible gasp in the chamber at the time at the unabashed honesty and lack of humility the statement portended. If you do not believe me, check Hansard. It was recorded.

There used to be a perfume ad that said: “Promise her anything, but give her Arpege”: the implied recipe for seduction. Politicians are even more dependent on that concept than perfume manufacturers.

However, as we witnessed this week, some politicians tell it like it is. The President and the Prime Minister both spoke of the non-productive but very expensive public service. Even the Ministry of Education bemoaned the paucity of truly committed and steadfast teachers in that service.

We must accept that as a cultural fact. We were stuck with service commissions at independence and have never admitted since that they are slow, cumbersome, inefficient and obstruct social and economic progress. In other words, we have not admitted, much less noticed, their obsolescence. I have no idea why they have not been abolished. Do you?

In the past two decades we have seen the closure of our income-generating energy resources, and as two very perceptive economists pointed out last week, in the face of its own advisers, ignored such advice as not to close the Petrotrin refinery. The advice, as I recall it, was to re-organise. It was vastly overstaffed and over-managed, a cash cow for the Boys, dominated by the union and badly in need of re-structuring. Well, we all knew that.

The advice was not accepted by a Cabinet which included only a single energy professional, whose 2017 recorded comments indicate he actually knew what had to be done, and the refinery was closed down. That the government-owned energy company owed a reported $3 billion per year in tax, which, like WASA, it did not pay, did not matter. Politicians knew better than industry experts. No one forces state operations to pay their taxes.

It sounds like the WASA report. In Trini-speak, "it is déjà vu all over again." Overstaffed, union-dominated, vastly over-managed, with double the numbers of managerial staff it needs (aka "a cash cow for the Boys"), so many that they are falling over each other giving contradictory orders. A consultant has been put in charge to clear up the mess.

When it was Petrotrin, it was committee after committee. The Prime Minister himself is quoted as saying about the government-owned energy company “there have been many instances and or arrangements which can only be described as gross mismanagement of the national patrimony, massive cost overruns, lengthy delays." He spoke of the gas-to-liquid plant which cost the country $3.15 billion and was sold for $215 million, and the de-sulphurisation plant for which we paid $2.89 billion and never opened because the structure was so faulty.

Who hired these people anyway? Who oversaw the contracts? Did anyone?Who is in charge here? Captain, the ship is sinking!

And now, is it true that because of the gas contracts that were negotiated unfavourably, the many downstream companies that depend on gas inputs are collapsing as well? Methanol Holdings has announced the closure of two of its plants in Point Lisas, affecting not just the employees there but all the small ring-fenced businesses, the service operators, the food vendors, the commercial assistants, the small entrepreneurs.

Economist Dr Terrence Farrell warned about this in the study he did on petrochemicals three or four years ago; so did journalist Curtis Williams. They were ignored by the decision-makers.

At one time, TT led the world in production and sale of methanol, urea and ammonia. It is as though, step by step, a decline has been forced on the country.

At one time people would emigrate to save their families. Now there is nowhere to flee to. Even the Venezuelans are leaving
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/04/15/living-on-promises-in-the-pandemic/

Meanwhile . Idiots like P()rnHabit 7 says everything is ok

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » April 15th, 2021, 7:06 am

Camille McEachnie

Heads of Tobago’s hospitality industry say they support the rollback restrictions implemented by the Ministry of Health (MOH) to address the recent increase in COVID-19 cases, noting it’s “unfortunate” everyone had not followed COVID protocols, leading to increased cases.

Chris James, Kaye Trotman, and Nicholas Hardwicke said the new restrictions may not have further weakened Tobago’s economy if the usual financial cushion from the Easter vacation had materialised.

They said occupancy rates fell below the expected over 90 per cent, and restrictions on restaurants’ sale of alcohol and seating capacity, prevented the food and beverage sector from accessing the increased visitors’ arrivals benefits.

At the MoH media briefing yesterday, Health Minister Terrance Deyalsingh announced beaches would close again except for turtle conservationists, restaurants revert to curbside pickup, and public gatherings reduced from 10 to five, for the next three weeks.

Reacting to the the announcement, James, who is president of Tobago’s Bed and Breakfast, Self-Catering Association Unique Accommodation and Trotman, president of the Hotel and Tourism Association, said the Government must save citizens’ lives regardless of the economic consequences.

James said the occupancy rate for the four-day Easter weekend was 79.1 per cent.

Going forward, the figures show that we are looking at 18 per cent for the remainder of April. We do not have figures for further ahead than that,” James told Guardian Media.

Trotman said the bed and breakfast sector reported less than 60 per cent occupancy rate for Easter–some members had no guests while others were fully booked.

Restaurateur Hardwicke said he did well for the Easter season

“Under the limits of not being able to sell alcohol and with only 50 per cent seating capacity at the restaurant,” he said

Hardwicke, who owns Seahorse Inn Restaurant and Bar, said having to revert to curbside pickup is “an exercise in a slow death.”

He says he hoped the Government is using scientific data to reintroduce the rollback of the measures.

All the hospitality veterans say they look forward to this country’s vaccination rollout plan and residents doing their part to allow the economy to reopen.

According to Tobago’s Health Division, as of yesterday, there are 23 active COVID cases on the island– two new cases in the last 24 hours. Since last year when testing began in Tobago, there have been 185 positive cases and two persons have died.


https://guardian.co.tt/news/brace-for-f ... 2a4c1a316f

All going good Rowlair and the Red government mis management

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » April 15th, 2021, 7:10 am

SENIOR secondary school students who sit the Caribbean Advanced Proficiency Examination (CAPE) cannot expect to receive scholarships “either at all or in any specific quantity or awarded on any specific criteria.”

This is the position of the Cabinet in its response to a pre-action protocol letter sent to attorneys representing the Sanatan Dharma Maha Sabha, which has threatened to take the Cabinet to court over Government’s scholarship and bursary programme.

The new system reduced the number of national scholarships and introduced bursaries.

“There can only properly be a legitimately expectation that whatever policy is in place at the relevant time will be rationally undertaken and administered fairly with respect to eligible students.”

On Monday, attorney Zelica Haynes-Soo Hon, from the firm Al-Rawi, Haynes-Soo Hon and Co, which is representing the Cabinet, wrote to Rhea Khan, one of the Maha Sabha’s attorneys, telling them their pre-action letter did not set out any arguable claim.

Haynes-Soo Hon also said a number of applications for bursaries have already been received and any application filed by the Maha Sabha for an injunction “will only serve to adversely affect the many vulnerable and needy third parties who would stand to benefit from the bursary programme.”

She said it would be an “undesirable outcome” which would be contrary to the public interest and would strongly militate against the grant of any interim order sought by the Hindu body, and asked the Maha Sabha to reconsider its proposed threat of legal action.

On March 23, attorneys for the Maha Sabha wrote to Cabinet secretary Cheryl Hem-Lee complaining of the cut in the number of national scholarships and of the new bursary system.

They claimed there was no subjectivity in the process and the new system gave no guidance on how a student could qualify. They also complained of the “deliberate removal and complete absence" of academic performance as a criterion.

In previous correspondence, the Maha Sabha’s attorneys were told the March 11 policy, published by the Education Ministry, was final.

In her letter on Monday, Haynes-Soo Hon said the Cabinet was “unable to accept” the "legitimate expectation" claim of the Maha Sabha that the religious body expected that scholarships would continue to be awarded on the basis of merit and academic achievement “as opposed to other arbitrary and subjective criteria.”

She denied another of the Maha Sabha’s assertions. that there had always been a “consistent and unequivocal practice” that scholarships were only ever awarded on the basic of academic grades. She pointed to various categories of government scholarships and financial assistance based on financial need and/or extra-curricular assessment, including developmental scholarships similar to the new bursary system.

Haynes-Soo Hon said there was nothing improper in providing financial assistance “not exclusively limited to academic grades,” since reliance on extra-curricular activities and/or means testing for financial aid were well established internationally and demonstrated by consideration in international tertiary matriculation.

She said means-testing was not unprecedented and was a “perfectly rational and sensible tool” to be used where resources were limited.

“The decision to provide financial assistance of any sort is necessarily and obviously a function of economic and social policy on a macro-scale and is informed by dynamic national development objectives, community needs and circumstances, as well as the allocation of limited national resources.

“These concerns have only become heightened in the present economic milieu,” Haynes-Soo Hon said, adding that the new system focused on the most vulnerable groups, talented students and targeted areas for national development.

Haynes-Soo Hon further told Khan, “There being no expectation that could be engendered that any person would receive financial assistance upon completion of their exams, there can be no complaint of any diminution in the scholarships or in the provision of a new system of bursaries for which applications may be made.”
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/04/14/attorney-for-cabinet-there-can-be-no-expectation-of-scholarships/


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Postby zoom rader » April 16th, 2021, 7:12 am

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With the $178 million rehabilitation of the Moruga Road two years overdue, angry residents yesterday set fire to tyres along the roadway demanding the Government use some of that money to repair dangerous landslips on the Lengua and Mandingo Roads in Princes Town.

The protest came hours after the Government reimplemented COVID-19 restrictions on gatherings more than five. There were more than a dozen incensed residents in the action who claimed that the Government was not prioritising work. Showing an excavator at a landslip along the Moruga Road, they said the Ministry of Works and Transport was starting repairs to a slippage that does not threaten homes.

Meanwhile, houses are crumbling in Lengua and Mandingo.

As unusual dry season rains continued, the landslip, which has already demolished one family’s home, has begun to take another. When Guardian Media visited the community on Tuesday, another part of Shamina Mohamed’s front wall had collapsed into the moving soil. Even the ruins of the Ali family’s home, which crumbled down the hill last August, had broken up even more. Last month, Sinanan said the ministry would do a temporary shoring up of the roadway to get at least one lane passable. 

At yesterday’s protest, Robin Singh said since February 2018, the Government had promised to fix their road but did nothing. Last year, he said the ministry did soil testing and surveys but no work started. He said he was not asking for his home to be fixed, only the road repaired and the landslip stabilised.

“It is very unfair. The road has totally collapsed. Our houses are caving and slipping away, the rainy season is upon us right now, and we need to have this project rerouted to Lengua Road and Mandingo Road,” Singh said.

For Indian Walk resident Bronson Charlo, the rehabilitation of the Moruga Road is long overdue. Although the portion of the road he protested on was paved in the past few years, potholes are everywhere and the land movements damage vehicles.

“We are begging to get the road fixed and nobody is doing anything. Here, inside Mandingo, inside Lengua, the whole road is bad. This morning when I was coming up here, I got a flat tyre on this same spot,” Charlo said.

He asked people to compare the roads in Moruga to Port-of-Spain, Arima and Diego Martin.

“Here is the bush, so they do not care about us down here.”

Moruga/Tableland MP Michelle Benjamin said while some work on the Moruga Road Rehabilitation Programme had started, most of the road surface remains uneven. Benjamin said in Cachipe, Champion Hill, where works began, the contractor stopped, complaining that there was no funding.

“The prioritisation of projects is not being done, so we are in this problem here today; $178 million and our roads do not reflect that,” Benjamin said.

She said the repairs to a retaining wall in Indian Walk could withstand the rainy season. However, the villagers said that the landslips in Lengua, Mandingo and Cachipe cannot. She asked that the Government show some compassion and reallocate money to fund urgent repairs.

Sinanan: We are working on the wider issue

On Tuesday, Minister of Works and Transport Rohan Sinanan noted numerous landslips and stabilisation works in Mandingo Road and surrounding areas. Sinanan told Guardian Media that his ministry is collaborating with the Ministry of Energy and Energy Industries (MEEI). He said MEEI geologists are carrying out tests in the area to determine the underlying issue of landslips. He said based on the findings, the ministry could revisit how it carries out stabilisation works in the communities. Sinanan provided an excerpt from a report which showed 78 landslips in the area, of which 10, including the Mandingo Road landslip, are receiving attention. The report showed that five factors contributing to the occurrence of landslips in Trinidad were roads built on ridges, construction type, soil type, sloping ground and water (rainfall).

Other extended factors include leaks from the Water and Sewerage Authority pipelines and poor water drainage from privately owned properties.

 “The repair strategy for landslips, especially in expansive clay, is complex and requires completion of geo-technical investigations to understand the failure, the soil properties and identify the slip plane. Once complete, they can develop a suitable strategy for repairs,” he said.

The report states that the Mandingo Road landslip falls into this category and to date, the technical staff has completed the preliminary geo-technical investigation and designs for a suitable, cost-effective repair solution. Subject to confirmation of funds, the work on the landslip should begin in three weeks. The project should restore connectivity and stabilise the slip from further movements.


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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby bluefete » April 18th, 2021, 3:44 pm

NEVER, EVER, EVER FORGET!


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Postby matr1x » April 18th, 2021, 5:12 pm

bluefete wrote:NEVER, EVER, EVER FORGET!




We must never forget. And never ever forgive

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Postby Kickstart » April 18th, 2021, 8:46 pm

bluefete wrote:NEVER, EVER, EVER FORGET!

Well no one Complains and if you protess I think the police will be instructed to use full force for order. They are really playing the public.

Those are the words " they haven't rioted yet"

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Gladiator » April 18th, 2021, 10:40 pm

bluefete wrote:NEVER, EVER, EVER FORGET!



But they voted them back and installed them right in the same place. Forget... most of them don't even remember what they had for breakfast yesterday!!! but they have they have the "right" to vote

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby elec2020 » April 19th, 2021, 8:08 am

Kickstart wrote:
bluefete wrote:NEVER, EVER, EVER FORGET!

Well no one Complains and if you protess I think the police will be instructed to use full force for order. They are really playing the public.

Those are the words " they haven't rioted yet"


isn't it common knowledge that if u protest there will be ramifications for it? how much times have we seen that? and that is protests against policing/weed... small things... u wanna protest about the government. good luck buddy. tell me how unemployment feels. the only thing the average citizen can do to show there disdain against the government is vote them out. and they woulda get vote out in 2020 if there was a viable opposition. thats the only thing keeping pnm in power. the lack of a viable opposition.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Kickstart » April 19th, 2021, 8:48 am

elec2020 wrote:
Kickstart wrote:
bluefete wrote:NEVER, EVER, EVER FORGET!

Well no one Complains and if you protess I think the police will be instructed to use full force for order. They are really playing the public.

Those are the words " they haven't rioted yet"


isn't it common knowledge that if u protest there will be ramifications for it? how much times have we seen that? and that is protests against policing/weed... small things... u wanna protest about the government. good luck buddy. tell me how unemployment feels. the only thing the average citizen can do to show there disdain against the government is vote them out. and they woulda get vote out in 2020 if there was a viable opposition. thats the only thing keeping pnm in power. the lack of a viable opposition.
It appears that people have very short memories and just goes about a care free life. Take abuse for 4 years and the last year get treated very nice with whatever rewards, then goes back normal.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby elec2020 » April 19th, 2021, 12:10 pm

as i said before. viable opposition. for example. why on earth i as a blank man would vote for a party that keeps on pushing racial politics. so the racial politics will stop after u get into power? sure. btw i did not vote last elections. i only voting again when i see a viable non pnm non unc led party

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » April 19th, 2021, 12:32 pm

The issue is not which political party in power because it seems that ppl have "short memories" to realise that the same Moruga road had potholes and landslides under past govts.

Firstly, the soil type south of the central range is prone to landslides so you could pave until the cows come home and there will still be landslides

Secondly, in other countries, they have a tax regime to finance the fixing of roads. In TT we mostly depend on taxes from O&G to do everything. Despite popular opinion, TT taxes are very low, one of the lowest in the region. As O&G revenues are becoming less dependable, we need to have a new method of financing road maintenance among other things. But we are in a culture where ppl don't want to pay more taxes and they still want to receive high subsidies.

Until a govt can develop a way of financing efficient road maintenance, we are in the same monkey pants, PNM or UNC.

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