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The announcement was made by Energy Minister Franklin Khan who gave details to the Parliament on Monday following more a year of negotiations. He revealed that Shell agreed to pay government $2.5 billion by the end of 2019, the money to be paid in US to the sum of US $397 million.
Like the BPTT payment last year to government of $1 billion, Shell is making its payment but not admitting to cheating the country of large sums of revenue in transfer pricing.
“The outcome of these phase 1 negotiations, with Shell, resulted in an agreement to pay the government approximately, US$397m to the end of 2019 and the parties are moving into phase 2 of the negotiations which surround the restructuring of Atlantic LNG,” Khan told the Parliament
De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Never said that moron, I said it was sold in spite of the agreement not to dispose of assets while getting bailed out. Your lack of comprehension at Level 10 today.
It was sold according to the parameter of their internal shareholder agreement and according to the MOU with govt, it was not sold by Duprey as you said.Yes I know. The case was dropped because of the witness statement and Ravi wanted to see it.De Dragon wrote:Dumb Dumb the case dropped prior to the FOIA request Why you insist on easily disproven lies amazes, but doesn't surprise me because, well, LFD RFD PNM.
Where is the lie?
So if the MOU was observed, and the sale on the up and up, why did the matter end up in court? This was a GORTT initiated court matter, so don't even bother.
Your lie is saying the matter was dropped after the FOIA was granted, when it was the actual opposite. Again, if that was transparent and above board, why did it have to reach all the way to the Privy Council? The same PC who rinsed out the GORTT for their conduct by the way
The plain facts are that Nelson went 180 degrees on his opinion only AFTER the LFD RFD PNM got into power. Are you seriously asking sensible people to believe that this was a coincidence and not Arse-Wari's way of letting a LFD RFD PNM stalwart like Malcolm Jones off the hook? Now the salt in the LFD RFD PNM self-inflicted wound is we owe him
sMASH wrote:hoss, that is nonsense.
but i learn sumting new. duprey DID actually sell the shares to proman. but the govt stopped that citing their MOU.
gortt stopped it cause they wanted to keep it, NOT becuase they wanted to protect it for the minority shareholder. that is why CEL had to sue gortt to get to the right to buy the shares as they were entitled to in their contract as the minority share holder.
That was according to Former Minister of Finance, Winston Dookeran73. From the information that came to me it appeared that at the time that the MOU was signed the intention had been that certain valuable group assets,such as shares in RBL and MHTL, could be sold or collateralised. However, it became apparent that this could not happen, because:
(a) the majority of Clico's RBL shares were held in its statutory fund (which was significantly in deficit);
(b) the remainder of Clico's RBL shares were subject to security in favour of CIB;
(c) most of the RBL shares owned by CIB were
hypothecated to secure that company's borrowings;
(d) dealings in the MHTL shares owned by the Group were subject to the terms of a shareholders' agreement.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2. ... 64cbba857a
newsday wrote:News
Govt bids to set aside Clico Energy sale to Proman
Andre Bagoo Thursday 4 June 2009
Newsday understands that an application to have the sale set aside, which may involve moves by the State to have the CL Financial assets traced and recouped, is carded to come up for case management hearing in the Port-of-Spain High Court on July 20.
The action to set aside the controversial sale of shares in Clico Energy Company to Proman AG was said to have triggered the court action which saw an injunction issued to preserve the status quo of the CL Financial assets portfolio.
Proman AG is a Swiss company involved in the construction of the largest single methanol facility in the world in Trinidad. The company is currently constructing the methanol plant for the Oman Methanol Company in Sohar, Sultanate of Oman.
The Central Bank first approached the court under the terms of the recently amended Insurance Act to seek an order to stop CL Financial from disposing of Clico assets. The move was only made possible by the amendments to the Insurance Act which were assented to in February, shortly after the signing of a memorandum of understanding which gave the Government management control over Clico and other CL Financial subsidiaries.
On Tuesday, High Court judge Justice Judith Jones amended the terms of a three-part injunction issued against CL Financial in order to tighten the State’s hold on Clico assets which may be subject to the control of CL Financial and its subsidiaries.
The key changes to the injunction were the expansion of its second and third parts allowing for subsidiaries and affiliates of the CL Financial group to be better caught under the order’s net. Subsidiaries and affiliates of CL Financial which have interests in or powers to deal over Clico assets are now barred from disposing of them. Jones also ordered that the parties to the court proceedings limit the use to which they put information disclosed by CL Financial on the breadth of its assets to the court proceedings only.
Lawyers for the Central Bank are considering whether to appeal this order. On February 22, High Court judge Justice Gregory Delzin ordered that CL Financial, its directors, senior management, subsidiaries or affiliated companies be restrained from “doing or causing to be done the following acts without prior notice to and the prior approval of the Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago.”
Under the restraining order CL Financial must also “disclose to the Inspector of Financial Institutions, or his designated officer, the identity, and location of all or any assets of Clico in or out of the jurisdiction.”
CL Financial was further mandated to make “full disclosure to the claimants of all or any information relevant to the existence of any interest held in any of the said assets in Clico.”
icis wrote:Correction: In the ICIS story headlined “Trinidad sells MHTL to holding company for $1.175bn” dated 10 October 2014, the wrong percentage was given in the MHTL stake that Trinidad sold to CEL. Please read in the third paragraph… 56.53% …instead of… 53.56% … A corrected story follows.
HOUSTON (ICIS)--Methanol Holdings (Trinidad) Ltd (MHTL) has been sold to its minority partner, a Houston-based law firm said on Friday.
MHTL, which operates five methanol plants on the island and currently is controlled by the government, was sold to Consolidated Energy Ltd (CEL), a holding company that already owned 43.47% of MHTL.
The remaining 56.53% was bought by CEL for $1.175bn.
The government has been considering this move for months.
The law firm Ware, Jackson, Lee & Chambers, which represented CEL in the case, said in a press release that the purchase price was less than what the government had sought.
Earlier this year, an arbitration court ruled on a claim by MHTL's minority shareholders challenging a 2009 deal that effectively gave majority ownership in the methanol producer to CLICO, a government-controlled insurer.
In November 2013, the court ruled in favour of MHTL's minority shareholders and had set a deadline of 31 January this year for negotiating a sale. As there was no sale by that date, the ruling said the court could set a price for the sale based on market valuations. The minority owners of MHTL include the Proman Group, which runs the methanol plants.
CLICO signed over all shares MHTL to CEL in Port of Spain, Trinidad, on Thursday morning, the law firm said.
MHTL is the island's largest methanol producer; Methanex also operates two plants there.
guardian wrote:Duprey wanted to sell MHTL in February 2009
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Tue Nov 15 2011
Asha Javeed
Shortly after signing a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with the Government of Trinidad and Tobago for his cash-strapped companies, former CL Financial chairman Lawrence Duprey was negotiating to sell one of the Group's most lucrative assets, Methanol Holdings (MHTL). In his cross-examination of MHTL chief executive Rampersad Motilal, attorney for Proman Holdings, Christopher Hamel-Smith produced an email string from February 3, 2009 which showed the chairman of Clico Energy Limited (CEL), Duprey's German partners in MHTL, accepting CL Financial's offer subject to terms and conditions. Word of the proposal by Duprey to sell CL Financial's 56 per cent stake in MHTL to the methanol company's 44 per cent foreign shareholders was disclosed yesterday as attorneys continued to cross-examine Motilal on the sale of Clico Energy Ltd.
Hamel-Smith also produced an email which showed that corporate secretary Gita Sakal forwarded a 2007 valuation of MHTL for CEL to pursue. Motilal told the on-going Clico Commission of Enquiry yesterday that while he was copied on that letter, he simply drew that letter to the attention of the CLF board for their consideration. Hamel-Smith questioned whether CEL's offer was being considered given the risks posed by the world environment for MHTL. Motilal maintained that it was an option but said it would be incorrect to say there was need for him personally to consider anything. "I would deny having any interest or being involved in any activity for consideration of the sale," Motilal told the COE.
And despite Motilal's consistent defense that he remained unaware of the sale OF Clico Energy Limited, he admitted that he did not interrogate the sale at the board level as he should have. In answer to an earlier question by attorney Fyard Hosein SC, Motilal said while he was not "alarmed" by the sale, he did not raise the issue with the CLF board. He told the Commission he was waiting for a more competent person to raise the issue as he did not have all the facts at his disposal. When it was pointed out that he was a member of the sub-committee of the board with a mandate to be responsible for the disposal of assets, Motilal said he interpreted his role differently.
In his resignation letter, which he produced for the COE, Motilal wrote: "The sub-committee was mindful at all times to work within the framework established by the MOU. This task became more challenging after an injunction was filed against CL Financial restraining the company, its officers, etc from dealing, negotiating, selling etc assets of Clico as it appears that the injunction was granted on the basis of another transaction by CL Financial ie.the sale of its shareholding and the shareholding OF Clico IN Clico Energy Ltd without the prior notification or sanction of the Minister of Finance of the Central Bank and which to date has not also been brought to the attention of the CLF Board for discussion approval pr ratification as may be applicable."
Of Duprey, Motilal later told the COE that: "I am sure he spent many sleepless nights trying to cajole subordinates and subsidiaries to report." Motilal will continue his cross examination today. Former corporate secretary Gita Sakal is also expected to take the witness stand today. Meanwhile, Commission Colman has ruled that the means of remuneration for CL Financial officials should be disclosed to the Commission but not the actual quantification of them.
that was with a young asha javeed or editor that thought that clico energy was a big name in the soap opera. not realizing that more of a shell with less things to do than the consolidated energy ltd. the chairman of both clico energy and mhtl was the same guy, seeing as clico had 17% and clf had 34% shares in mhtl, think rampersad motilal was his name. but from there on out, most parties tend to just say clico or clf for duprey stuff, and leave the CEL for proman, but oft times stick to proman.Habit7 wrote:
Secondly, you say, "i have never read any report or artilce that referenced clico energy as cel." But then you post an article with "Clico Energy Limited (CEL)" which makes me wonder if you read what you post.
Ent asha javeed is a red government mattress.sMASH wrote:that was with a young asha javeed or editor that thought that clico energy was a big name in the soap opera. not realizing that more of a shell with less things to do than the consolidated energy ltd. the chairman of both clico energy and mhtl was the same guy, seeing as clico had 17% and clf had 34% shares in mhtl, think rampersad motilal was his name. but from there on out, most parties tend to just say clico or clf for duprey stuff, and leave the CEL for proman, but oft times stick to proman.Habit7 wrote:
Secondly, you say, "i have never read any report or artilce that referenced clico energy as cel." But then you post an article with "Clico Energy Limited (CEL)" which makes me wonder if you read what you post.
we used to just say duprey and shultz.
sMASH wrote:they wanted assets, either to sell or keep and earn the dividends.
Energy Minister Franklin Khan has made a bold prediction that by 2025 crude oil production will increase to 92,000 barrels of oil per day (bopd), up from its present production of 57,000 bopd.
The minister said this projected increase does not take into account any additional major discovery that may be made in the intervening period and which may quickly be brought into production.
Khan would no doubt have based part of his prediction on the already sanctioned BHP Ruby project which at peak will add 16,000 bopd and the ability of state-owned Heritage to increase its production based on its significant and under utilised assets.
In an interview with Guardian Media Khan alluded to the potential of Heritage and said, “Now I am speaking to them very regularly and I have told them I want a laser-beam focus on production and they are doing that. They have evaluated the Trinmar acreage, there is the Jubilee field that they are going out to a joint venture for, there is South-West Soldado which they will be going on a joint venture for, to bring in the investment level, to bring in the production.”
According to the Energy Minister, Heritage will also seek to increase the lease operatorship/farm-out onshore and he has told them they have to come up with their own drilling programme for the land-based assets.
The minister also promised to have a bid round for further deep exploration in what is called the Siparia syncline for Herreras, similar to where Touchstone has made several discoveries.
He said, “This will probably take about two years but I can see Heritage ramping up to over 60/70,000 barrels of oil per day by 2024.”
All of this sounds impressive and makes sense. For years, almost two decades to be honest, energy ministers have promised to do something about declining production on land and on the West Coast. Nothing has actually worked.
Former energy minister Kevin Ramnarine, like Khan, had made a bold promise of increased oil production, mainly led by what was the then Petrotrin.
Ramnarine in 2011 told a meeting of the Energy Chamber; “As a country, we must move quickly to maximise on the high oil prices both from a WTI and Brent perspective. The ministry’s forecasting of oil production indicates that oil production which averaged around 94,000 bopd for January to October 2011 should edge back up towards the 100,000 bopd mark in 2012.”
He also had this to say on natural gas production, “There continues to be a shortage of natural gas to the Point Lisas Industrial estate. This problem is not due to a lack of reserves. It is a result of poor coordination. The Ministry of Energy starting January 2012 will be chairing a quarterly production optimisation meeting that will ensure that this never happens again. In terms of a solution, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
“We expect that the EOG Toucan Platform would commence production in mid January to mid February and that this would provide relief to the problem at Point Lisas.
“The NGC has also commenced works on the NGC pipeline network to ensure that we have more flexibility in the deliverability of natural gas. This involves connecting BG at Beachfield into the NGC domestic grid.
We must understand that the system of supply and demand for natural gas is tightly optimised and any disruption will now be immediately felt at Point Lisas. I will also add that new developments of natural gas have proven to “dry gas” and therefore we have a commensurate decline in the production of liquids in T&T. This places even greater emphasis on getting oil production back up above 100,000 bopd.”
History has shown that on both counts Ramnarine and the Ministry of Energy failed to deliver.
I make the point about Ramnarine to say that it is easier said than done and that increased oil production from Heritage will require significant investment of hard cash, something the country does not have and Heritage is short on.
To be clear, the company has declared significant profits but when one considers the costs of wells and the risks associated with drilling then one understands that Heritage is going to require either significant joint ventures or a different approach has to be taken to allow private capital access to the oil resources now under the control of the state.
With the climate change challenge facing the world and the move away from fossil fuel and in particular liquid fuels, the country has to be focused on moving quickly to get the oil out of the ground or risk having a product that no one wants.
Crude oil and natural gas are only important based on the value of the product and most experts feel there is a window within which they will remain relevant.
The announcement by the world’s leading car makers of their move away from the production of combustion engines by between 2030 and 2040, if successful, will deal a hefty blow to oil prices and production and even now there is real doubt about oil and gas majors investing in any new search for crude, unless that oil can be discovered quickly and sold into the market for profit.
It is why the failure of this government to act quickly in the energy sector to solve the myriad of problems facing it is inexplicable and tantamount to political malpractice.
This column has been on the record on calling for Khan to be replaced as the Energy Minister, and it is to his credit that he was prepared to sit down with Guardian Media and have a frank discussion about his tenure as the Minister of Energy and explain his side of why things are where they are.
In the interview Khan also promised by 2025 the natural gas shortage that Ramnarine spoke about in 2011 will be finally solved. Fourteen years later and with several petrochemical plants already gone.
As a country we have to wish Khan good luck. We need the revenue that can be generated by the energy sector and we need to get the oil and gas out of the ground quickly and invest it in areas that will lead to sustainable revenue streams into the future.
We have already lost billions due to LNG transfer pricing that neither the PNM nor UNC seem to have a problem with and one can only hope this time we get it right in the important, but sunset sector.
We are running out of time and while Khan and this government say the right things, their actions fail to back up their promises.
Those who felt we would be well on our way to herd immunity by now, see how old talk and basket doh hold water
Habit7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Petrotrin made ah profit of 800mill but no account for where the money was spent or where it went.sMASH wrote:trinidad: first world restrictions and taxation, with fourth worth world debt and conditions.
thank u, rowliar
On top of that 1.5 billion gone from HSF
I think we seeing Panama all over again
see goalpost change below
Habit7 wrote:^^^This is what you get when Petrotrin is not burdened with a loss-making refinery and can make a profit to invest in E&P
Production grows.
Heritage wells are mostly in mature fields where pressures are low. Normally companies would employ EOR methods to increase flow but Petrotrin was limited by funds. Now that Heritage has the profits to be reinvested into these wells, I won't be surprised to see a 1000 bopd well.
Habit7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Petrotrin made ah profit of 800mill but no account for where the money was spent or where it went.sMASH wrote:trinidad: first world restrictions and taxation, with fourth worth world debt and conditions.
thank u, rowliar
On top of that 1.5 billion gone from HSF
I think we seeing Panama all over again
see goalpost change below
Redman wrote:lol
more tootz.
oel Julien
joel.julien@guardian.co.tt
Trinidad and Tobago’s proven crude oil reserves have increased by more than 20 million barrels according to a recent audit done by Netherland, Sewell and Associates Inc, Energy Minister Franklin Khan has revealed.
Khan said in addition to this the audit states that T&T’s probable and possible reserves have also increased significantly.
He said this is a hopeful sign. The audit was as at December 31, 2018.
“All categories of Reserves increased between the 2012 audit and the 2018 audit. Proved Reserves jumped by 10.3 per cent from 199.5 million barrels to 220.1 million barrels. Probable Reserves rose by 16.6 per cent from 85.5 million barrels to 99.7 million barrels and Possible Reserves climbed by 8.5 per cent from 124.8 million barrels to 135.5 million barrels,” Khan said.
“The 20.6 million barrel increase in Proved Reserves is a hopeful sign, and is thanks to the maturity of, and operator commitment to proved undeveloped opportunities onshore Trinidad and in the West Coast Marine Area,” he said.
Khan said the nation’s Contingent Resources also rose by 17.2 per cent—from 58 million barrels in 2012 to 68 million barrels in 2018.
“A 36.8 per cent decrease in the estimates for the East Coast Marine Area between audits was offset by a 25.7 million barrel addition from Onshore Trinidad in 2018.
He said this contribution came from several well-known fields such as Barrackpore, Penal and Parrylands, as well as one operational and one proposed flooding project.
“I’m proud to announce that NSAI’s independent, Best Estimate of our Unrisked Prospective Resources is now a mammoth 3.2 billion barrels. This is an increase of 773.4 per cent over the Unrisked Prospective Resources at 1 January 2012 of only 368.2 million barrels. This notable Resource estimate, more than 90 per cent of which was identified in the Deepwater would not be possible without the achievements of BHP and its partner Shell in acquiring, processing and interpreting prospects identified in the Southerly Deepwater Blocks,” Khan said.
‘With the Invictus drillship now in transit to Trinidad and Tobago from the Gulf of Mexico to drill the Broadside prospect, a commercial discovery in any of its several stacked Miocene targets, would de-risk the prospective resources identified by NSAI significantly and be very good news for Trinidad and Tobago,” he said.
Khan said when the proven reserves of condensate for 2018, estimated by the Ryder Scott Company, are added to the proven crude oil reserves, our proven reserves of crude oil and condensate are 256.9 million barrels.
This exceeds the figure at 1 January 2012 by 14.0 million barrels or 5.7 per cent, he said.
“Upward Revisions based on better production performance and committed projects resulted in a reserves replacement ratio of 107.2 per cent between audits. The reserves to production ratio based on the oil and condensate production and reserves in 2018 on a proved basis is 11.1 years,” he said.
“This is an increase of 54.2 per cent from the 2012 figure of 7.2 years. This change is in part due to the decreased production of 23.2 million barrels in 2018, which was 10.4 million barrels less than was produced in the year preceding the 2012 audit. But our significantly higher proved reserves of crude oil and condensate in 2018, relative to 2012 was another factor,” Khan said.
Khan said besides the potential oil windfall in the Deepwater, since the December 31, 2018 cut-off date for this audit there have been several encouraging oil discoveries and continued exploration and development by operators that can have a positive impact on reserves.
He highlighted:
· BHP’s Block 3a Ruby field, which will boost the country’s production by 15,000 bopd in 2022, has been approved and could be promoted from Contingent Resources to Reserves in a future oil audit.
· Exploration is continuing in the 2013 Onshore Competitive Bid Round Blocks of Ortoire and Rio Claro as Touchstone and Lease Operators Limited respectively follow up on the Barakat, Coho, Cascadura discoveries.
· Columbus Energy announced in April an oil discovery in the Lower and Middle Cruse sands at the Saffron Well, located in the South West Peninsula.
· The 2020 DeepWater Nomination Period is almost completed and should result in a Competitive Bid Round that would permit the continued development of reserves and resources for the future.
· Trinmar began using the Mobile Offshore Production and Compression Unit (MOPU) since December 2019 to perform production and compression duties. It is expected to add approximately 1,840 bopd on average incremental production for 2019/2020.
Asked if he thought with the potential increase in Heritage production and the additional 15,000 barrels of oil per day from BHP if he thought this country’s production could return to 100,000 bo/d, Khan said with some luck it was possible.
The Energy Minister said the Year End 2019 Trinidad and Tobago Natural Gas Reserves Audit Report is in final draft form and will be completed in a matter of a week or two.
Redman wrote:The only tootz here is your theory.
Weve been through this before.
You know everything.
you have all the experience blah blah blah.
what you dont have is anything other than a heap of contradictory unsubstantiated old wives tales based on 'we who know' and the crookedness of the oil industry.
I’m proud to announce that NSAI’s independent, Best Estimate of our Unrisked Prospective Resources is now a mammoth 3.2 billion barrels. This is an increase of 773.4 per cent over the Unrisked Prospective Resources at 1 January 2012 of only 368.2 million barrels. This notable Resource estimate, more than 90 per cent of which was identified in the Deepwater would not be possible without the achievements of BHP and its partner Shell in acquiring, processing and interpreting prospects identified in the Southerly Deepwater Blocks,” Khan said.
They deliberately cut oil and gas supplies just to Close Petrotrin refinery . send home 3500 and shut down Pt lisas . State wells was capped under the red government to halt production . Now all of sudden they can produced 100k barrels. Those of us in oil knows what going on with those wells.
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Rowlair sold his bamcee begging China.Gladiator wrote:bluefete wrote:THERE ARE NO WORDS, TUNERS, NO WORDS!!!
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How much beg they beg China for money to do useless crap over the decades..... This man is Ignorant, stupid and feel everybody brainless like his supporters.
Gladiator wrote:How much beg they beg China for money to do useless crap over the decades..... This man is Ignorant, stupid and feel everybody brainless like his supporters.
You a bigger clown than I expected. Line up the dots sonRedman wrote:There is no correlation between what you are saying and that article.They deliberately cut oil and gas supplies just to Close Petrotrin refinery . send home 3500 and shut down Pt lisas . State wells was capped under the red government to halt production . Now all of sudden they can produced 100k barrels. Those of us in oil knows what going on with those wells.
This has nothing to do with the reserves.
The reserve story has nothing to do with our day to day production-----Production has dropped 30% since 2012 (81k)yet the reserves have increased 700% in the same time frame....your info.
Why would the GORTT artificially reduce oil production if they are relying on Heritage to be the lynchpin in refinancing the Petrotrin debt?
Certainly they would need oil production to be high as possible....yet we are down 10% since 2018....
UNC didnt increase production
PNM didnt either.
No conspiracy- just same sht different party
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