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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby adnj » August 19th, 2018, 3:39 pm

I don't know about Castrol vs. Shell but oil will blacken depending on the kind of additives in that particular brand.

The number one cause of oil blackening in a diesel engine is soot from unburned fuel/oil during combustion.

All things considered, black oil is still an effective lubricant.
Dave wrote:Castrol has more detergents than shell hence the dirtiness quicker. Castrol however has a lower flash so burn off will be higher.

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby *KRONIK* » August 19th, 2018, 4:39 pm

Calor wrote:What oil/body would you folks recommend for a 2010 ranger/BT50 gearbox & rear diff(LSD)?
What the manufacturer recommend.

Those ranger are LSD so you will need to get a lsd specific oil.
Most likely gl5 lsd 75w90 for the rear diff
And a gl4 for the gearbox.

Try to get the the specs some someone with a manual.

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby Dave » August 19th, 2018, 5:02 pm

kamakazi wrote:
Dave wrote:Castrol has more detergents than shell hence the dirtiness quicker. Castrol however has a lower flash so burn off will be higher.
Do you have proof of that.
Oil bible empirical data. Numbers are old but have noticed even though they are a bit old the properties that I have heard in discussion still seems to represent those findings. I have noticed some manufacturers started publishing that data on their products. I started doing my own but time didn't permit.

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby Dave » August 19th, 2018, 5:07 pm

Some shots of pages I had printed and had on my phone. 10/30 and 10/40 products.
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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby Dave » August 19th, 2018, 5:10 pm

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby kamakazi » August 19th, 2018, 5:35 pm

Ok..pal... I'm glad you acknowledge the age of the information you possess cause those formulations would have undergone significant revisions by now. Also note that the formulation is different in different regions, so I can't see how that document is still relevant today.

That document can be used to make some connections however... Like high tbn oils tend to have more sulfated Ash.

Anyhow... Once the oils are certified and approved by the same groups ... There should be no problem using it as it was intended.

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby *KRONIK* » August 23rd, 2018, 10:58 am

900kms so far

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What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby ru$$ell » August 24th, 2018, 5:18 pm

Dave wrote:Np oils are very good. Just because ppl feel it is local it isn't good. However our garage was sponsored by Np and we got oils free and no race care ever suffered an engine oil failure. Now that they have the many different blends I am sure they can compete with the best of them.


What this guy said, been running NP for the past 11 years in heavy equipment vehicles and never had any issues regarding oil whatsoever

As for personal vehicle, running bel-ray 10w-40 some years now, no issues whatsoever

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby nick639v2 » August 24th, 2018, 8:53 pm

Anyone here running diesel additives in between???

I tried the fuel medic off and on.. dunno if it makes a difference, i just do it in case it has benefits

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby kamakazi » August 25th, 2018, 3:49 am

Usually run redline 85 plus. Right now I'm using power service diesel clean. Now and again I use a little bit of two stroke oil.
When I don't use anything the Diesel rattle is a bit louder

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby *KRONIK* » August 25th, 2018, 7:33 am

Using the deisel kleen right now. Not sure if it makes a difference.
But i bought the big bottle in pricesmart so i have to use it out....

Last time i used a liqui moly...
That made a noticable difference.
I also made a lot of black smoke for about 2 days, but the van was like scary faster.

I find the fuel medic is a waste.
A padna who selling it recommended it but i dont find it does do anything. I think any treatment that work on both gas and deisel is a gimmick.

I have to try the redline and the amsoil still.

Its good to run something still tho, even tho you cant feel a noticable difference as the treatments provide pump and injector lubrication, and help with the high sulphur content and boosts the cetane rating.

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby PariaMan » August 25th, 2018, 9:49 am

Used to blue smoke on start up since I started using regular absolutely no smoke finds quieter too

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby Big Z » August 25th, 2018, 6:34 pm

Big Z wrote:Running Kendall 10W30 syn blend in the 2012 Hilux. Switching to Amsoil 10W30 upcoming weekend.

Finally got around to this oul change. Ended up running about 5000km on the kendall.

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby nick639v2 » August 26th, 2018, 12:51 am

PariaMan wrote:Used to blue smoke on start up since I started using regular absolutely no smoke finds quieter too


What you using?

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby PariaMan » August 26th, 2018, 7:54 am

Mostly red line that blue smoke on morning startup was real irritating

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby ADONI » August 27th, 2018, 9:11 am

Was using Redline for quite a while. Mix it up now between liqui moly and Diesel Kleen. Also when I change fuel filters, I does fill it with some liqui moly diesel purge and idle it out.

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby PariaMan » August 27th, 2018, 11:29 am

Yea I mix it up with the unipet one to save on cost that one is 11$ per bottle

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby Youngstar1989 » September 22nd, 2018, 6:43 am

Hi Tuners I am using Mobil 1 Delvac on my hilux 2013 3.0 engine. I change oil and filters every 5000km.
I replace my fitlers with original Toyota filters.

Is Mobile 1 Delvac 5w40 a good oil for me to use?
Whats the best oil change interval with this oil and original Filters?

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby supernedd » September 22nd, 2018, 6:50 am

Youngstar1989 wrote:Hi Tuners I am using Mobil 1 Delvac on my hilux 2013 3.0 engine. I change oil and filters every 5000km.
I replace my fitlers with original Toyota filters.

Is Mobile 1 Delvac 5w40 a good oil for me to use?
Whats the best oil change interval with this oil and original Filters?
i used to use that on my mazda bt50 .. but mechanic say as d engine got older . i needed a thicker body of oil to use

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby supernedd » September 22nd, 2018, 6:51 am

Calor wrote:What oil/body would you folks recommend for a 2010 ranger/BT50 gearbox & rear diff(LSD)?
castrol.. the manual have the body .. i forgot

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby supernedd » September 22nd, 2018, 6:53 am

*KRONIK* wrote:Allyuh, doh laugh at me eh...i accustomed to a set of ole van.

I changed oil for the 1st time in the hilux since i bought it and the next morning i was trying to check the oil level. Everytime i pull the dipstick, i eh seeing no oil, but i feeling the liquid at the end of the dipstick. Turns out the oil was there, just not black....i always thought oil does turn black 1 time in diesel vehicles because thats what i got accustomed to over the years with 2 different ld20t mazdas, 2 fontiers and a l300.

I feel shame
after a few days of driving..it will build soot n change color

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby *KRONIK* » September 22nd, 2018, 6:54 am

supernedd wrote:
*KRONIK* wrote:Allyuh, doh laugh at me eh...i accustomed to a set of ole van.

I changed oil for the 1st time in the hilux since i bought it and the next morning i was trying to check the oil level. Everytime i pull the dipstick, i eh seeing no oil, but i feeling the liquid at the end of the dipstick. Turns out the oil was there, just not black....i always thought oil does turn black 1 time in diesel vehicles because thats what i got accustomed to over the years with 2 different ld20t mazdas, 2 fontiers and a l300.

I feel shame
after a few days of driving..it will build soot n change color
Yea
It took around 900km to start to get dark

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby adnj » September 22nd, 2018, 9:42 am

Info from an old article for all of the 3000 mile/5000km oil changers:

The majority of automakers today call for oil changes at either 7,500 [12,000km] or 10,000 miles [16,000km], and the interval can go as high as 15,000 miles [24,000km] in some cars. Yet this wasteful cycle continues largely because the automotive service industry, while fully aware of the technological advances, continues to preach the 3,000-mile gospel as a way to keep the service bays busy. As a result, even the most cautious owners are dumping their engine oil twice as often as their service manuals recommend.

"Vehicles are so sophisticated that oil is one of the last things that customers can have a direct influence over," said Matt Snider, project engineer in GM's Fuels and Lubricants Group. "There's maybe some feeling that they're taking care of their vehicle if they change their oil more often."

The 3,000-mile myth is also promoted by the quick-lube industry's "convenient reminder" windshield sticker. It is a surprisingly effective tool that prompts us to continue following a dictate that our fathers (or grandfathers) drummed into our heads: It's your duty to change your oil every 3,000 miles — or your car will pay the price. But as former service advisor David Langness put it, the 3,000-mile oil change is "a marketing tactic that dealers use to get you into the service bay on a regular basis. Unless you go to the drag strip on weekends, you don't need it."

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/tips-advice/stop-changing-your-oil.html

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby nick639v2 » September 22nd, 2018, 9:59 am

supernedd wrote:
Youngstar1989 wrote:Hi Tuners I am using Mobil 1 Delvac on my hilux 2013 3.0 engine. I change oil and filters every 5000km.
I replace my fitlers with original Toyota filters.

Is Mobile 1 Delvac 5w40 a good oil for me to use?
Whats the best oil change interval with this oil and original Filters?
i used to use that on my mazda bt50 .. but mechanic say as d engine got older . i needed a thicker body of oil to use




Boy i use spec oil and never used thicker bodies in no vehicle especially my diesels.. i would say stick to whats recommended.

On a next note, oil change coming soon for the nav, Motul to be used again.. The Fortuner will get same. Been using the recommended shell on 2018 bt50, soon to be Motul.

Very very Slight injector rattle starting to come up on the nav at 270k kms. Will be sorting that out and post back when it gets completed

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby kamakazi » September 22nd, 2018, 1:10 pm

So manufactures list a longer drain internal so that it reduces the overall cost of ownership.
Dealers recommend the shorter intervals so they can get you to spend more doing services with them.
Thing is the manufacturer really doesn't care for your vehicle after a certain amount of time or mileage and the dealer is trying to make as much money form you as possible.

I personally change between 5000-7000kms and use conventional 15w40 oil (gulf superfleet supreme or wolf vitaltech)

Manual lists 5w30 as preferred but allows for higher viscosities up to 20w50.

Run Valvoline branded Purolator filters

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby nick639v2 » September 23rd, 2018, 9:12 am

^^ where you get the valvoline filler??? Anyone knows in central where i could get for d40?? Cant seem to find any..

Paging valvoline dealer!!

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby kamakazi » September 23rd, 2018, 10:21 am

I bought a box from the previous Valvoline dealer...
The new dealer should have as well.

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby GixxerMan » September 26th, 2018, 3:25 pm

hey guys my frontier TD27 engine is nearing the 300k mileage mark, i will like to try the NP high mileage oil, is this a good to use? and what grade?....

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby supernedd » October 16th, 2018, 3:14 am

gas brainz wrote:well ill tell u that sum how oil isnt being thrown out to the turbo/ blow by
it performs a bit better but personally i was expecting more but ill give it till next oil change 7400km and run it again cus i used ah restore together wit it which i shouldnt do. it is a bit quieter and runs smoothly
previously used rimula R3 X and it "was back pressuring" badly but now no oil is showing up on the catch can level
yd25 frontier
same thing i did ..lol . i use eengine restore n put in a catch can .lol

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Re: What oil u using in ur diesel van?

Postby kamakazi » February 8th, 2019, 2:28 pm

Gulf Superfleet supreme 15w40: $101/gal (the catch: you have to buy a 20L container)

Currently using the above mixed with one litre of Total Quartz 9000 Future NFC 5w30 (Ford Spec) in my Toyota Hilux
(that name is a mouthful)

I also have a 20l container of Wolf Vitaltech 15w40 to be used next oil change and might stick with it until.

For what its worth, Wolf is now the title sponsor of the World Rally Championship.

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