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Dohplaydat wrote:shogun wrote:
Impressive despite the circumstances.
And we taking 3 years to build a freaking interchange in Curepe, big f*cking steups yes.
Ben_spanna wrote:Just out of curiosity - how equipped or unprepared are any of our medical institutions if they had to Properly quarantine mass amounts of people AND ensure that their medical staff maintained minimum exposure and lack of contact with people for an extended time for any type of Virus?
Ben_spanna wrote:Just out of curiosity - how equipped or unprepared are any of our medical institutions if they had to Properly quarantine mass amounts of people AND ensure that their medical staff maintained minimum exposure and lack of contact with people for an extended time for any type of Virus?
Slartibartfast wrote:I love how people are saying this virus isn't that serious because the effects aren't as bad as other viruses yet they completely ignore the response that this virus had. They locked down an entire city, built a new hospital and restricted air travel. Not to mention started working on a vaccine/ cure for a strain of virus that was isolated last time there was an outbreak in 2003. People also know how to protect themselves better from spreading it now (proper face masks and sanitation etc.)
It is true that the death rate for this virus is not as high as other viruses but it is far more contagious. If this thing hits Trinidad, believe me, the effects would be far worse that China because we are not physically or mentally equipped to consider that hitting us. The most that we can do is use the same response that we use for other natural disasters. Say "God is a Trini" and hope it doesn't hit us.
sMASH wrote:i too say the threat to trinidad is low.
simply because, most people from the affected regions would not come here, directly from there. they would more easily come via other countries, and big countries. and so, they woudl be screened there first, and most likely not allowed to go any farther past those stations.
im more interested in finding out what quarantine measures are set up to isolate people in the regular medical facilities, because there might be the first places a person might find out they have the virus. after they are found its a simple step to transport them to caura or where ever, and that will be the end of that.
Nah wasn't an attack on you. Sorry if it came across that way. Just a general comment on inaccurate posts that I have been seeing on social media.Devourment wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:I love how people are saying this virus isn't that serious because the effects aren't as bad as other viruses yet they completely ignore the response that this virus had. They locked down an entire city, built a new hospital and restricted air travel. Not to mention started working on a vaccine/ cure for a strain of virus that was isolated last time there was an outbreak in 2003. People also know how to protect themselves better from spreading it now (proper face masks and sanitation etc.)
It is true that the death rate for this virus is not as high as other viruses but it is far more contagious. If this thing hits Trinidad, believe me, the effects would be far worse that China because we are not physically or mentally equipped to consider that hitting us. The most that we can do is use the same response that we use for other natural disasters. Say "God is a Trini" and hope it doesn't hit us.
I'm not sure if you're attacking me here. I firstly never said it's not serious. But as of the latest mutation (3 strains of 2019-nCoV) none have been very severe. A 2-3% mortality rate is bad but luckily also very manageable, and it indicates that it's killing those who don't have the immunity to fight it. Awareness is important, ensuring those who are vulnerable aren't exposed to it will lead to far lower mortality rates.
All I was saying is that until there is an outbreak in a country that has high travel to Trinidad, it's extremely unlikely it'll end up here.
The Chinese have done a lot to contain it. Xi knows this would be a big blow to China's international credibility. And they have put a lot of effort into containing it.
It's been 2 weeks since the initial outbreak and there still hasn't been an outbreak anywhere but China, despite it landing up I'm dozens of countries. Take good news when you see it. That is extremely good news and let's hope it stays that way.
It's fine to worry, but realism is needed. Short of closing our borders (which we literally can't do because look at all the Venezuelans here anyway) we will always be at some risk.
The risk from those coming from China and Asia are exponentially higher than those coming down for Carnival unless they coming from China.
We are a very reactionary population and love to blame the government. I'm not a PNM, but a lot of the procedures in place falls under general operations and even ODPM and individuals who have no party affiliation and are doing it because it is their job. So essentially, MoH will do the PR but us, the workers, know what we need to do. Talking specifically about how to handle individual cases. We have received a lot of training under the PP and procedures are in place.
Handling a handful of cases and quarantining them we can do, an outbreak.... hell freaking no, it would be a small disaster for trinidad. Everyone is right in saying we not prepared for an outbreak and that is 100% true.
Saying there's no risk due to Carnival is wrong (I do apologize), but the risk almost every big city in the West is facing is far far far worst. Yet borders aren't closed.
WHO will only recommend closing borders for a diseases that has an R naught of 3+ and mortality rate of 10% (not strict but those are generally accepted), and not to everyone.
Closing borders and cancelling events is not the correct course of action many times.
Read this, it will explain why an over zealous reaction of cancelling or postponing Carnival is not a smart nor effective move.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.co ... travel-ban
Coronavirus: Disabled boy dies in China after father quarantined
Two officials in China have been removed from their posts after a teenager with cerebral palsy died when his father - and sole carer - was quarantined for suspected coronavirus.
Yan Cheng, 16, was found dead on Wednesday, a week after his father and brother were placed in quarantine.
The boy was fed only twice during this time, according to reports.
Both the local Communist Party secretary and mayor in Huajiahe town have been dismissed over the case.
Yan Cheng's story has been trending on social media websites.
The family lived in China's central Hubei province, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak.
According to local media, the teenager's father had posted on Chinese social media platform Weibo appealing for help and explaining that his son had been left alone without food or water.
Cerebral palsy is the name for a group of conditions that appear in early childhood, and affect movement and co-ordination. Symptoms vary, and can include tremors, stiff or weak muscles, problems swallowing, and trouble with vision, speech and hearing. Those affected may be severely disabled.
Officials had previously announced that an investigation would be carried out into the boy's death.
In China, 361 people have died of coronavirus and more than 17,000 cases of the virus have been confirmed. There have also been more than 150 confirmed cases of the virus outside China, including one death in the Philippines.
The World Health Organisation (WHO) has warned the number of cases is likely to rise further, and Chinese authorities have introduced a number of measures to try to halt the virus's spread.
maj. tom wrote:stand up in your house, lock all the doors and windows, and then light it a fire. That way you sure to never get the virus.
VexXx Dogg wrote:To the people calling for the cancellation of carnival - what does this mean?
Seems a bit open ended, I want a clear explanation of what you want.
Gladiator wrote:This thing killing 50-60 people a day... and infecting over 2000 everyday
Some scary sheit...
Phone Surgeon wrote:That's a stupid comparison. Dengue cant pass from simple contact with each other.
Devourment wrote:Just to calm down some of you, worst case situation in China is 1 in 10,000 people have it.
To put that in perspective, that's like if 150 trinis got it.
Over 1000 people get dengue annually here, Dengue has a mortality rate worse than Coronavirus (best case they're the same).
Very different type of diseases, but I hope these numbers can put things in perspective.