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eitech wrote:When i started servicing my vehicle after i got a manual i can say that most mechanics overfill engine oil and ive been to a few of them, from small man to big companies
eitech wrote:When i started servicing my vehicle after i got a manual i can say that most mechanics overfill engine oil and ive been to a few of them, from small man to big companies
*KRONIK* wrote:Never understood thiseitech wrote:When i started servicing my vehicle after i got a manual i can say that most mechanics overfill engine oil and ive been to a few of them, from small man to big companies
eitech wrote:If your dipstick has a low and hi mark, why overfill? I have seen ppl do oil changes for me and the level is one inch above the high mark
The low level on the dipstick is sufficient for pump efficiency for all day operation on a 6°/10% grade. Unless you're driving on a high speed oval, you won't be in a turn long enough to diminish lubricant film unless perhaps your engine is overheating.kamakazi wrote:Cause the roads aren't always flat, and I corner pretty hard. Any little thing I could do to avoid an oil starvation event. In my case, a little more than the F on my dip stick I will addeitech wrote:If your dipstick has a low and hi mark, why overfill? I have seen ppl do oil changes for me and the level is one inch above the high mark
adnj wrote:The low level on the dipstick is sufficient for pump efficiency for all day operation on a 6°/10% grade. Unless you're driving on a high speed oval, you won't be in a turn long enough to diminish lubricant film unless perhaps your engine is overheating.kamakazi wrote:Cause the roads aren't always flat, and I corner pretty hard. Any little thing I could do to avoid an oil starvation event. In my case, a little more than the F on my dip stick I will addeitech wrote:If your dipstick has a low and hi mark, why overfill? I have seen ppl do oil changes for me and the level is one inch above the high mark
Although it may not be an issue for your particular situation, overfilling your engine oil can cause foaming or seal failure.
The safest and most economical bet is to fill to capacity and change oil according to schedule.
kamakazi wrote:All I'm saying, following my owners manual will actually have the oil level over the upper mark on the dip stick.(in terms of recommended volume)
I can't remember reading how or when I should check the level in manual. So if I check it after the engine has been stationary for 7 hrs its above the upper mark. If I start the vehicle and check after 10 minutes it will show between the lower and upper mark
Just today changed the oil in my sister's Civic; filled up just below the upper mark on the district. Started the car and let it run for just a minute. Checked oil level after 5 minutes, bone dry (nothing showing on the stick). Poured in more oil to the upper dipstick mark... Almost certain that it will be above that mark tomorrow
BTW... Trinidad has three hill ranges and Tobago also has some long hill climbs
adnj wrote:kamakazi wrote:All I'm saying, following my owners manual will actually have the oil level over the upper mark on the dip stick.(in terms of recommended volume)
I can't remember reading how or when I should check the level in manual. So if I check it after the engine has been stationary for 7 hrs its above the upper mark. If I start the vehicle and check after 10 minutes it will show between the lower and upper mark
Just today changed the oil in my sister's Civic; filled up just below the upper mark on the district. Started the car and let it run for just a minute. Checked oil level after 5 minutes, bone dry (nothing showing on the stick). Poured in more oil to the upper dipstick mark... Almost certain that it will be above that mark tomorrow
BTW... Trinidad has three hill ranges and Tobago also has some long hill climbs
In general, engine oil level should be checked when the engine is cold to the touch and the vehicle is parked on a level surface. Checking your oil after every tank of fuel or at least once per month is recommended by many.
Correct oil level is achieved when the oil level is between the two extreme marks on the oil dipstick. There can be exceptions so consult your owner's manual for the definitive answer.
When changing your oil, fill to recommended volume as given in the owner's manual or add to maximum level as shown by checking the dipstick. Start the engine and allow it to idle for five to ten minutes. Oil will be deposited throughout the engine, air will be purged and the oil filter will be filled.
Shut down the engine and allow it to cool to the touch, recheck the oil level and adjust as necessary.
Check the oil more often soon after an oil change to check for oil loss caused by improperly reinstalled oil filters and oil fill caps.
kamakazi wrote:Let's look at a Subaru
Oil capacity of about 5 quarts
Oil change interval 3000-6000 miles
Normal oil consumption listed as high as 1 quart per 1000 miles
Not everyone checks their dipstick between oil changes. Before an owner's next oil change that engine can potentially burn through half to all its oil.
If I am a mechanic servicing your vehicle and I know you are not doing/checking anything until your next oil change; if over decides to go over the interval by another 1k miles... I'm definitely going to put a little more than that level on the dipstick.
Endorsedadnj wrote:The low level on the dipstick is sufficient for pump efficiency for all day operation on a 6°/10% grade. Unless you're driving on a high speed oval, you won't be in a turn long enough to diminish lubricant film unless perhaps your engine is overheating.kamakazi wrote:Cause the roads aren't always flat, and I corner pretty hard. Any little thing I could do to avoid an oil starvation event. In my case, a little more than the F on my dip stick I will addeitech wrote:If your dipstick has a low and hi mark, why overfill? I have seen ppl do oil changes for me and the level is one inch above the high mark
Although it may not be an issue for your particular situation, overfilling your engine oil can cause foaming or seal failure.
The safest and most economical bet is to fill to capacity and change oil according to schedule.
eitech wrote:If you over filling cuz ur abnormally burning off oil between oil changes then you have an excuse. You have a problem to fix otherwise. Overfilling is not a requirement of a well functioning engine regardless if you driving on steep slopes or cornering hard
kamakazi wrote:It is just a scenario I gave... And that is what is stated as being normal for Subaru.
That light on japanese cars is a low oil pressure light... And usually if it comes on while you are driving, the pressure sensor has failed or the engine is toast.eitech wrote:If you over filling cuz ur abnormally burning off oil between oil changes then you have an excuse. You have a problem to fix otherwise. Overfilling is not a requirement of a well functioning engine regardless if you driving on steep slopes or cornering hard
adnj wrote:kamakazi wrote:It is just a scenario I gave... And that is what is stated as being normal for Subaru.
That light on japanese cars is a low oil pressure light... And usually if it comes on while you are driving, the pressure sensor has failed or the engine is toast.eitech wrote:If you over filling cuz ur abnormally burning off oil between oil changes then you have an excuse. You have a problem to fix otherwise. Overfilling is not a requirement of a well functioning engine regardless if you driving on steep slopes or cornering hard
The low oil warning light will come on when oil pressure falls below 5 to 10 psi, depending on manufacturer. It will also come on if the oil pressure circuit or the sensor itself fails. The oil pressure warning lamp will light when the vehicle is switched on to prove-out its function.
The low oil warning light function and prove-out is regulated by vehicle safety standards in every world region.
It seems as if you are working very hard to rationalize certain practices that are not recommended and are, in fact, relatively common causes of failure.
Your father was correct.Musical Doc wrote:My dad always taught me that overfilling can cause the seals to damage and leak. Just because your oil level is on the low mark doesn't mean there is almost no oil in the engine. My car takes 3.5 qts of oil and to fill from the low mark to the high mark it takes maybe 3/4 qt. So even if it is on the low mark there is still at least 2 qts circulating in the engine.
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