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chris1388 wrote:...we have done this a few times now....by now we know the limits of times competitors do on the course i.e the slowest times and the fastest times. You all need to come up with the classes BEFORE hand and publish this so that it is known by all the particular bracket limit of that class. This way we the competitors will know for example.....GT2 is from 58-60seconds....so on the day now when you hear you in GT2 we know what the limit is for that class already so that we know how close our qualifying time was to potentially breaking the bracket.
chris1388 wrote:At every event aren't we all running the course that is put down on THAT day??? So if we all run that same course be it different by a little or not from the last event and should everyones times vary from the last event..... so what???
chris1388 wrote:You guys not really understanding what I saying...
There are too many variables in this event and that is why the organizers are having a hard time...they need to standardize some stuff
X2 wrote:There are not too many variables.... there are two main ones.... car and driver. The organizers are trying to minimize the car variable by using the times.... it's the inconsistency of the drivers that remains the key variable. Not saying its perfect eh, I've been burned by the rules just as others have... but you can't expect perfection after just 5 events. Even CARS modifies the rules to solodex from time to time and dex has been going on for years.
These discussions I'm sure will help formulate a more stable platform for D&W rules.
That is not at all practical, from both an organisational and marketing standpoint. Five or Six classes for the most, at this point! If we get a permanent facility where the layout can be standardized and we can host an event over two (or more) days then we may consider somthing similar to this suggestion.chris1388 wrote:Tell me why then we can't look at the competition times from all the events and get some sort of time range....slowest to fastest and just make classes before hand?
Example
class 1 - 65 seconds upward
class 2 - 63 to 64.99
class 3 - 61 to 62.99
class 4 - 59 to 60.99
and so on and on and keep adding classes if need be?
ARC still planning to pave that surface in 2012?!X2 wrote:Likely people will eventually get a bit bored with the same layout over and over. So you gotta also consider the course MIGHT change in the future.... if that happens we are back to square one.
I won't lie... it is prolly hard as hell to sort out an acceptable list of rules with something like this as there is not a lot of history to compare to... maybe the Race of Champions... but even that is different !
I'm sure the organisers will be reading thru the comments listed in this thread to help the next event come off even better. Just keep driving hard meng !
AutoSport wrote:Ok, so having sat back and taken in the sparring that has been going on, I have to admit that what was clearly stated to the competitors at the meeting at 1;00pm, was NOT adhered to by the officials in the control tent. Apologies for that from the start. And also for the errors that WERE made on the day.
I really appreciate the many and varied suggestions, all intended and made to have as fair a competition as possible.
Funny, but I do agree with Chris, because it was actually what was intended but MURPHY stormed the party. The major flaw occurred after the 1:00pm testing, when competitors were Not told the Class they should have been running in, and this being discovered later on, we had to step in and try to regroup from where we were at the time.
For those with the positive and constructive comments, and criticism I say thanks. For the one talking about making money, go check to find out what others paid just to get through the gate to compete elsewhere, and then come back and show the real comparisons, And to the one who talk about the freshwater yankee… here we have gotten a knowledgable Trini, residing away, invited to bring a different outlook and that is your best shot.
As I have said to many, I/we have absolutely no interest in favouring one competitor over the other or in deliberately hindering a competitor in his/her attempt to enjoy a day of racing.
We will work with all parties to eventually achieve the best mix and really develop this to its highest potential.
MG Man wrote:I am pissed because I wasn't there
Mr. Autosport, as always, your supporters and friends by far outweigh your detractors...we all look forward to a great 2012 season
*kicks car*
AutoSport wrote:MG Man wrote:I am pissed because I wasn't there
Mr. Autosport, as always, your supporters and friends by far outweigh your detractors...we all look forward to a great 2012 season
*kicks car*
And herein lies your problem, you need to be loving to the car, you know like to plants I killed a pepper tree and a spanish thyme....and a cactus..., animals u mean like Team Loco?, the wifey...she kicks me - of course I am not sure if I have the order correct??!
professor wrote:Ronnie and I decided not to run and to give the EVOs' a day for themselves, and what happened ? They blew it, literally.
Sorry to hear about the problems guys, Motor Racing is a beyotch. Heard it was still a good day though.
I imagine these cars would be even faster next year.
Season Greetings to all. Take care.
Porn Star wrote: NO SUBARU is going to win any GT5 class race in 2012.
paparazzi wrote:Porn Star wrote: NO SUBARU is going to win any GT5 class race in 2012.
Neither is an EVO.......
Porn Star wrote:paparazzi wrote:Porn Star wrote: NO SUBARU is going to win any GT5 class race in 2012.
Neither is an EVO.......
if yuh stop dealin with that obeahman I may have a chance.
AutoSport wrote:Ok, so having sat back and taken in the sparring that has been going on, I have to admit that what was clearly stated to the competitors at the meeting at 1;00pm, was NOT adhered to by the officials in the control tent. Apologies for that from the start. And also for the errors that WERE made on the day.
I really appreciate the many and varied suggestions, all intended and made to have as fair a competition as possible.
Funny, but I do agree with Chris, because it was actually what was intended but MURPHY stormed the party. The major flaw occurred after the 1:00pm testing, when competitors were Not told the Class they should have been running in, and this being discovered later on, we had to step in and try to regroup from where we were at the time.
For those with the positive and constructive comments, and criticism I say thanks. For the one talking about making money, go check to find out what others paid just to get through the gate to compete elsewhere, and then come back and show the real comparisons, And to the one who talk about the freshwater yankee… here we have gotten a knowledgable Trini, residing away, invited to bring a different outlook and that is your best shot.
As I have said to many, I/we have absolutely no interest in favouring one competitor over the other or in deliberately hindering a competitor in his/her attempt to enjoy a day of racing.
We will work with all parties to eventually achieve the best mix and really develop this to its highest potential.
BANzai Rastafarai wrote:AutoSport wrote:Ok, so having sat back and taken in the sparring that has been going on, I have to admit that what was clearly stated to the competitors at the meeting at 1;00pm, was NOT adhered to by the officials in the control tent. Apologies for that from the start. And also for the errors that WERE made on the day.
I really appreciate the many and varied suggestions, all intended and made to have as fair a competition as possible.
Funny, but I do agree with Chris, because it was actually what was intended but MURPHY stormed the party. The major flaw occurred after the 1:00pm testing, when competitors were Not told the Class they should have been running in, and this being discovered later on, we had to step in and try to regroup from where we were at the time.
For those with the positive and constructive comments, and criticism I say thanks. For the one talking about making money, go check to find out what others paid just to get through the gate to compete elsewhere, and then come back and show the real comparisons, And to the one who talk about the freshwater yankee… here we have gotten a knowledgable Trini, residing away, invited to bring a different outlook and that is your best shot.
As I have said to many, I/we have absolutely no interest in favouring one competitor over the other or in deliberately hindering a competitor in his/her attempt to enjoy a day of racing.
We will work with all parties to eventually achieve the best mix and really develop this to its highest potential.
uncle...congrats on you and your awesome team on getting it right bit by bit...as mentioned by a few...its all fun. Whilst i got the "NAAAAAAAAAH BOY you get beat by THREE WOMAN?" comments...i also got th converse where some are considering entering the 2012 seasonjust to try it out and get a taste for what its like.
for 2012, i would love personally to see three things (i think the classing issue is being covered by the hard core racers)
1. A Masters class. Where the first and second placed GT5 guys go up against the likes of Rawle Mahabir, Oswald Stoute, Carrington, Frankie Boodram (ducks..wait he's TTASA right?), Ainsley Lochan, Christian Borne....those guys.... i dunno if these guize are afraid of the talent of Myself (lol) Sharelicks, Ronnie or even Nebert Marin to come out and run. Maybe an event just before the start of the 2012 rally season so we ketch dem in dey prime.
2. Ever considered a 2 wheel/motorcycle class? two bikes on a course like that will have ppl on dey feet...tight turning circle...ridiculous acceleration, caution on the top corners....WIN!!!
3. An "Outlaw" class. Open wheel cars/creations. I know of at least 3 such projects (i know of a modified kart that has a 4 stroke trail bike engine WITH electronic/clutless shifting ) that would prove to be entertaining to see on a closed course. Clearly the regulations for this class would be different from Scrutineering come forward, but it would allow some "home projects" to flex thier muscles..
just ideas to keep the fans coming and the sport alive until we can do better...
BTW...Kudos to DWO and their participation...showing maturity in competing and yet cud "balls out" at the end with that EPIC drifting demonstration.....
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