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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Remind me again why humans deserve better treatment than other animals?
Historically? There is great historical evidence, even empirical scientific evidence of man worshipping animals for many millennia and even today.Habit7 wrote:Well historically it was because of man being 'imago dei' (created in God's image) and all our rights, morals and fundamental laws coming from God. But in our modern humanistic secular worldview the holocaust isn't as bad the slaughter of millions of chickens everyday or keeping a chimp in cage is tantamount to the imprisonment without trial of many, even in the US.
But to live consistent with that ideology I don't expect one to eat meat or have pets of any kind.
I thought you said that our laws come from God?Habit7 wrote:By historically I mean western history, the one that influences our laws.
I actually just tried to kill one that was about to bite me. Self preservation / defense is a natural thing in the animal kingdom. A cheetah can be seriously harmed or even killed by the kick of a zebra it is trying to kill to eat. Animals will pick and kill ticks off themselves or others in their group.Habit7 wrote:If animals deserve equal treatment then killing mosquitoes should be homicide (same-killing).
Yes, the ten commandments influenced our fundamental laws in the west.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:I thought you said that our laws come from God?Habit7 wrote:By historically I mean western history, the one that influences our laws.
So is it homicide?Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:I actually just tried to kill one that was about to bite me. Self preservation / defense is a natural thing in the animal kingdom. A cheetah can be seriously harmed or even killed by the kick of a zebra it is trying to kill to eat. Animals will pick and kill ticks off themselves or others in their group.Habit7 wrote:If animals deserve equal treatment then killing mosquitoes should be homicide (same-killing).
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Historically? There is great historical evidence, even empirical scientific evidence of man worshipping animals for many millennia and even today.
Habit7 wrote:Yes, the ten commandments influenced our fundamental laws in the west.Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:I thought you said that our laws come from God?Habit7 wrote:By historically I mean western history, the one that influences our laws.So is it homicide?Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:I actually just tried to kill one that was about to bite me. Self preservation / defense is a natural thing in the animal kingdom. A cheetah can be seriously harmed or even killed by the kick of a zebra it is trying to kill to eat. Animals will pick and kill ticks off themselves or others in their group.Habit7 wrote:If animals deserve equal treatment then killing mosquitoes should be homicide (same-killing).
meccalli wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Historically? There is great historical evidence, even empirical scientific evidence of man worshipping animals for many millennia and even today.
Those cultures had great respect for attributes of that animal and usually assigned particular functions to certain animals. Ultimately, they were representations of a particular god, usually planetary or spiritual in nature. This is made clear when you look at places like Egypt and across the globe to the Aztecs and Mayans where gods possessed traits of creatures such as snakes and birds(Quetzalcoatl). Some Indians may worship cobras, but it's as a respect of Shiva, monkeys- Hanuman etc.
Habit7 wrote:A foetus is human, yet in the US it is sliced up and vacuumed out of the womb as a means of birth control. And someone thinks that chimp is so human it deserves not be in cage?
#mixedpriorities
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:People in this day and age still deny things like Evolution etc?
I wonder what causes otherwise educated people to believe in magic and a sky fairy over scientific evidence? Can people really be this gullible? indoctrination is a hell of a thing yes!!!
In the words of the eminent scientist Dr Richard Dawkins, anyone not brought up in the faith who believe these stories from scriptures has to be none other than barking mad.
X2 wrote:Deport them all...
Habit7 wrote:By historically I mean western history, the one that influences our laws.
If animals deserve equal treatment then killing mosquitoes should be homicide (same-killing).
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