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Postby tourniquet » February 12th, 2017, 2:02 pm

Good to see that in these rough times, at least the trolls are well fed

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Postby nervewrecker » February 13th, 2017, 3:23 pm

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i asked today and heard it from an old lady who saw a la diabless and lives by herself in the heights of guanapo.


Sounds legit

Same woman with the hog plum tree in front she house at the side of the road?

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Postby dude2014 » February 15th, 2017, 10:15 pm

Dont know about the tunnel, but the Americans left quite a few installation around the country, some in plain sight, some underground, etc. People way back who worked with the Americans talked about the Americans returning. Who Knows ..........

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Re: underground tunnel, cumuto to toco

Postby sam1978 » February 15th, 2017, 10:22 pm

Does anybody here have concrete evidence about this ? Very interesting. I would have liked to hear Angelo Bissesarsinghs input on this, but it's too late now.

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Postby Redman » February 15th, 2017, 10:30 pm

kelshalls books references many training installations through out the island.
With multiple airstrips...

Uboat war in the Caribbean.

I will see if I can scan and post some stuff

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Postby dude2014 » February 15th, 2017, 10:32 pm

sam1978 wrote:Does anybody here have concrete evidence about this ? Very interesting. I would have liked to hear Angelo Bissesarsinghs input on this, but it's too late now.


Al Ramsewak still around, there are world war two veterans, (I think they lay wreaths at some place in town).
Men have plenty true stories line up. I am not too hurry to check out these things. Carlsen Field still has the air strip and persons are living underground down there.

Google map may throw some light on the lay of the land. Who knows? Try ah ting and report back .........

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Re: underground tunnel, cumuto to toco

Postby area6 » February 15th, 2017, 10:46 pm

This post is very intriguing, too bad it was posted since May 2015 and to date we haven't even seen a picture of the tunnel entrance or the area its suppose to be in, even the old machinery that's still down there

Keep us up to date, would love to see more ...should really make it an investigative lime and go and see....all we need is a drone and an entrance and we in an order

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Postby Mercenary » February 15th, 2017, 11:16 pm

Interesting

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Postby Mercenary » February 15th, 2017, 11:16 pm

Interesting

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Postby carmelo » March 7th, 2017, 4:55 pm

guy as much as this sounds like a very good idea to go exploring these tunnels . in reality it is not . interestingly enough there are several underground networks built by the us military during ww2 in various parts of the country. most of which are under military control and not accessible to civillians if persons are found to be trespassing they will be subject to persecution under military law. with that said it is also worth mentioning that some of these bunkers do contain sensitive military surplus, hardware amongst other things left by the Americans and are under the control of the our military agencies. someone in the posts before did mention that americans are coming back ... the reality is that the land that has been returned to govt after war under several conditions one of which is that in event of any major offensive to occur in the atlantic region which threatens the security of this hemisphere or US the US armed forces can reclaim its former bases / territories for the purpose of any strategic military operations if the need arises . which give reason as to why there has been no major land development in the areas where former US military installation were. fyi did you guys know that the precursor to GPS was the omega positioning system and trinidad was one of 5 omega stations in the world . this was used for ship and submarine navigation by the us military. to the north of this in tucker valley was the BEWMS tracking dish and ionospheric grid radar which was used for tracking missiles in the southern firing range on the southern hemisphere it was said that if the Russian launched an ICBM's in the southern hemisphere due to its low azimuth it would not be picked up by other missile defense systems hence this tracking station played a crucial role in detecting low orbit missiles and to monitor any threats during the cold war. this tracking station was also the site where the first radio signal was sent during shuttle flights from from kennedy and cape canaveral.

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Postby cornfused » March 7th, 2017, 8:42 pm

Guys, as much as this sounds like a very good idea to go exploring these tunnels,. in reality it is not . Interestingly enough there are several underground networks built by the US military during WW2 in various parts of the country. most of which are under military control and not accessible to civilians. Note if persons are found to be trespassing they will be subject to persecution under military law.

With that said it is also worth mentioning that some of these bunkers do contain sensitive military surplus, hardware amongst other things left by the Americans and are under the control of the our military agencies. Someone in the posts before did mention that Americans are coming back. The reality is that the land that has been returned to govt after war under several conditions. One of which is that in event of any major offensive to occur in the Atlantic region which threatens the security of this hemisphere or US .. The US armed forces can reclaim its former bases / territories for the purpose of any strategic military operations if the need arises .

Which give reason as to why there has been no major land development in the areas where former US military installation were. FYI , did you guys know that the precursor to GPS was the omega positioning system and trinidad was one of 5 omega stations in the world? .This was used for ship and submarine navigation by the us military. to the north of this in tucker valley was the BEWMS tracking dish and ionospheric grid radar was used for tracking missiles in the southern firing range on the southern hemisphere.
It was said that if the Russian launched an ICBM's in the southern hemisphere due to its low azimuth it would not be picked up by other missile defense systems hence this tracking station played a crucial role in detecting low orbit missiles and to monitor any threats during the cold war. This tracking station was also the site where the first radio signal was sent during shuttle flights from from Kennedy and Cape Canaveral.
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Postby *KRONIK* » March 8th, 2017, 6:15 am

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Guys, as much as this sounds like a very good idea to go exploring these tunnels,. in reality it is not . Interestingly enough there are several underground networks built by the US military during WW2 in various parts of the country. most of which are under military control and not accessible to civilians. Note if persons are found to be trespassing they will be subject to persecution under military law.

With that said it is also worth mentioning that some of these bunkers do contain sensitive military surplus, hardware amongst other things left by the Americans and are under the control of the our military agencies. Someone in the posts before did mention that Americans are coming back. The reality is that the land that has been returned to govt after war under several conditions. One of which is that in event of any major offensive to occur in the Atlantic region which threatens the security of this hemisphere or US .. The US armed forces can reclaim its former bases / territories for the purpose of any strategic military operations if the need arises .

Which give reason as to why there has been no major land development in the areas where former US military installation were. FYI , did you guys know that the precursor to GPS was the omega positioning system and trinidad was one of 5 omega stations in the world? .This was used for ship and submarine navigation by the us military. to the north of this in tucker valley was the BEWMS tracking dish and ionospheric grid radar was used for tracking missiles in the southern firing range on the southern hemisphere.
It was said that if the Russian launched an ICBM's in the southern hemisphere due to its low azimuth it would not be picked up by other missile defense systems hence this tracking station played a crucial role in detecting low orbit missiles and to monitor any threats during the cold war. This tracking station was also the site where the first radio signal was sent during shuttle flights from from Kennedy and Cape Canaveral.
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Postby ruffneck_12 » March 8th, 2017, 8:12 am

thanks cornfused lol

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Postby Dizzy28 » March 8th, 2017, 10:03 am

carmelo wrote:guy as much as this sounds like a very good idea to go exploring these tunnels . in reality it is not . interestingly enough there are several underground networks built by the us military during ww2 in various parts of the country. most of which are under military control and not accessible to civillians if persons are found to be trespassing they will be subject to persecution under military law. with that said it is also worth mentioning that some of these bunkers do contain sensitive military surplus, hardware amongst other things left by the Americans and are under the control of the our military agencies. someone in the posts before did mention that americans are coming back ... the reality is that the land that has been returned to govt after war under several conditions one of which is that in event of any major offensive to occur in the atlantic region which threatens the security of this hemisphere or US the US armed forces can reclaim its former bases / territories for the purpose of any strategic military operations if the need arises . which give reason as to why there has been no major land development in the areas where former US military installation were. fyi did you guys know that the precursor to GPS was the omega positioning system and trinidad was one of 5 omega stations in the world . this was used for ship and submarine navigation by the us military. to the north of this in tucker valley was the BEWMS tracking dish and ionospheric grid radar which was used for tracking missiles in the southern firing range on the southern hemisphere it was said that if the Russian launched an ICBM's in the southern hemisphere due to its low azimuth it would not be picked up by other missile defense systems hence this tracking station played a crucial role in detecting low orbit missiles and to monitor any threats during the cold war. this tracking station was also the site where the first radio signal was sent during shuttle flights from from kennedy and cape canaveral.


Then how come the GORTT spent billions in developing the Tamana Intech Park at Wallerfield?

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Postby carmelo » March 8th, 2017, 12:42 pm

[/quote]Then how come the GORTT spent billions in developing the Tamana Intech Park at Wallerfield?[/quote]

before i answer that question i will reiterate what someone here on this post said a few pages back.... the military was called in to do a survey of the area to ascertain that the proposed site have no evidence of any military material present and also to ensure that the construction site will not affect any subterranean structures present.

now to answer the other part of the question the propsed plan for the tamana inteck park at wallerfield was to be used as a central repository and ICT hub for the GORTT among other things. while plans reagrding the development of a technology park were being considered through one of the state agencies was attached to invitations were recieved to attend several symposiums held regarding ICT and disaster recovery operations for the GORTT in event of any major disaster and natural or otherwise. there were representatives from various arms of state and other foreign companies with invested intrests eg. latnic, icann, google, bamboo networks, cisco , microsoft etc. the idea was to have a DR site housed there where all state agencies will be connected to house all govt related info. latnic , icann were to provide a DNS and IP repo failover for the caribbean and latam. as well as the GORTT were considering a partnership with google to have a google Datacenter and a gogle tech campus through UTT for development of several ICT initiatives which the govt would have benefitted from. bamboo networks were to provide the infrastructure but the entire deal fell through after the may 24th 2010 GE. there was also consultation between the GORTT and 2 french aerospace companies which expressed interest in setting up operations here to work on several military and national security initiatives among other thing.

after the change in govt post may 24th 2010 GE as you would have seen alot of these initiatives were scrapped or never materialized since the last regime had no intention and expressed no desire to continue any of the projects. you would have heard of the bamboo network lawsuit , opv arbitration et al .... this country lost out on a 5billion usd injection from direct foreign investment if that eteck wallerfied tech park was to be developed.

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Postby carmelo » March 8th, 2017, 12:51 pm

dude2014 wrote:
sam1978 wrote:Does anybody here have concrete evidence about this ? Very interesting. I would have liked to hear Angelo Bissesarsinghs input on this, but it's too late now.


Al Ramsewak still around, there are world war two veterans, (I think they lay wreaths at some place in town).
Men have plenty true stories line up. I am not too hurry to check out these things. Carlsen Field still has the air strip and persons are living underground down there.

Google map may throw some light on the lay of the land. Who knows? Try ah ting and report back .........
google maps will not show this as it would be overlayed with cloud cover or vegetatation to puposely mask out these areas ..... as it would be flagged as sensitive areas by our natsec agencies

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Postby rspann » March 8th, 2017, 12:59 pm

carmelo, tell us some more about this bamboo networks lawsuit and the opv arbitration you speak of.

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Postby rspann » March 8th, 2017, 1:02 pm

Court clears way for eTeck lawsuit




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Tuesday, October 29, 2013

High Court judge Devindra Rampersad yesterday ruled that the State was free to pursue its US$5 million lawsuit against the former members of the Evolving Technologies and Enterprise Development Company (eTeck) board, even though it was filed after the four-year statutory limitation period. The judgment, which was delivered in the San Fernando High Court yesterday afternoon, is expected to be used as precedent in several ongoing civil lawsuits involving former members of state boards accused of impropriety, which were all filed after the 2010 general election. In his 22-page judgment, Rampersad said: “Public scrutiny of public posts must exist to secure public funds.”





Rampersad agreed with the State’s contention that it only found the alleged breaches by boards after the change in government and said it would be “highly unlikely and most improbable” for the breaches to be found otherwise. He also dismissed allegations of victimisation in the case. “Political victimisation, as alluded to, as real as it may be, does not feature in the court’s mind in the exercise of its function as the determiner of facts related to deliberate breaches of duty,” Rampersad said. He dismissed submissions made by some of the board members, who claimed that the by-passing of the limitation period in the case would be a disincentive to prospective board members. “The potential subjection of any director to legal proceedings is a reality which hovers over every board to ensure that decisions made and conduct carried out are properly done to the appropriate standard and can be policed and remedied as appropriate,” Rampersad said.



In the substantive lawsuit, filed in 2011, the State alleges the board entered into a $30 million agreement with Chinese-based company, Bamboo Network Ltd, between January 18 and May 17, 2005, without carrying out a due diligence exercise into the company’s financial records beforehand. The directors being sued for breach of fiduciary duties and negligence are former chairman Prof Ken Julien and board members Ulric Mc Nicol, Brian Copeland, Rene Monteil, Eugene Tiah, Sonia Noel, Wendy Fitzwilliam and John Soo Ping Chow. In March last year, the directors filed an application to have the lawsuit struck out, saying it was an abuse of process as it was statute-barred under the Limitations of Certain Actions Act. In defence of the claim, the State relied on Section 14 of the legislation, which postpones the limitation period when facts have been deliberately concealed.



Rampersad initially rejected the preliminary application, saying it could be dealt with in the substantive case. The directors appealed and in December the Appeal Court reverted the issue to Rampersad for his consideration. The State was represented by Queen’s Counsel Vincent Nelson, Israel Khan, SC, and attorneys Gerald Ramdeen and Varun Debideen.
The directors’ legal team included Senior Counsel Douglas Mendes and John Jeremie and attorneys Michael Quamina, Stuart Young, Kerwin Garcia and Stephen Singh.

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Postby carmelo » March 8th, 2017, 1:19 pm

http://flightspiritmagazine.weebly.com/ ... bases.html this site has some pics of waller AFB and carlsen AFB

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Postby Dave » March 8th, 2017, 1:23 pm

Nice piece of history!

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Postby carmelo » March 8th, 2017, 1:25 pm

rspann wrote:Court clears way for eTeck lawsuit




Derek Achong
Published:
Tuesday, October 29, 2013

High Court judge Devindra Rampersad yesterday ruled that the State was free to pursue its US$5 million lawsuit against the former members of the Evolving Technologies and Enterprise Development Company (eTeck) board, even though it was filed after the four-year statutory limitation period. The judgment, which was delivered in the San Fernando High Court yesterday afternoon, is expected to be used as precedent in several ongoing civil lawsuits involving former members of state boards accused of impropriety, which were all filed after the 2010 general election. In his 22-page judgment, Rampersad said: “Public scrutiny of public posts must exist to secure public funds.”





Rampersad agreed with the State’s contention that it only found the alleged breaches by boards after the change in government and said it would be “highly unlikely and most improbable” for the breaches to be found otherwise. He also dismissed allegations of victimisation in the case. “Political victimisation, as alluded to, as real as it may be, does not feature in the court’s mind in the exercise of its function as the determiner of facts related to deliberate breaches of duty,” Rampersad said. He dismissed submissions made by some of the board members, who claimed that the by-passing of the limitation period in the case would be a disincentive to prospective board members. “The potential subjection of any director to legal proceedings is a reality which hovers over every board to ensure that decisions made and conduct carried out are properly done to the appropriate standard and can be policed and remedied as appropriate,” Rampersad said.



In the substantive lawsuit, filed in 2011, the State alleges the board entered into a $30 million agreement with Chinese-based company, Bamboo Network Ltd, between January 18 and May 17, 2005, without carrying out a due diligence exercise into the company’s financial records beforehand. The directors being sued for breach of fiduciary duties and negligence are former chairman Prof Ken Julien and board members Ulric Mc Nicol, Brian Copeland, Rene Monteil, Eugene Tiah, Sonia Noel, Wendy Fitzwilliam and John Soo Ping Chow. In March last year, the directors filed an application to have the lawsuit struck out, saying it was an abuse of process as it was statute-barred under the Limitations of Certain Actions Act. In defence of the claim, the State relied on Section 14 of the legislation, which postpones the limitation period when facts have been deliberately concealed.



Rampersad initially rejected the preliminary application, saying it could be dealt with in the substantive case. The directors appealed and in December the Appeal Court reverted the issue to Rampersad for his consideration. The State was represented by Queen’s Counsel Vincent Nelson, Israel Khan, SC, and attorneys Gerald Ramdeen and Varun Debideen.
The directors’ legal team included Senior Counsel Douglas Mendes and John Jeremie and attorneys Michael Quamina, Stuart Young, Kerwin Garcia and Stephen Singh.



here are some court docs ... these are in the public domain http://webopac.ttlawcourts.org/LibraryJ ... ug2014.pdf
http://webopac.ttlawcourts.org/LibraryJ ... ec2012.pdf
https://prezi.com/tbalw4qtbkab/eteck-bamboo-networks/

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Postby wavehunter » March 8th, 2017, 6:24 pm

Monos Island has one of these tunnels in the mountain with a train track, heard this from an old guy back in the day.

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Postby Mercenary » March 18th, 2017, 12:07 pm

I goin an see what it have there. Hope I return

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Postby carmelo » April 11th, 2017, 11:22 am

ministry of works just demolished the site of an old ww2 airstrip located behind the old colonial womens prison in mt hope.... the hangars were used are a vehicle repair depot ... but before that it was an american airstrip used to reconn aircraft.... then it was repurposed by the govt after the americans left for light airplanes used for cane crop dusting

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Postby shaha87 » April 11th, 2017, 12:17 pm

carmelo wrote:http://flightspiritmagazine.weebly.com/trinidad-bases.html this site has some pics of waller AFB and carlsen AFB


There's a scrapyard on the concrete part of the base in Carlsen Field atm, there's quite a network of underground tunnels as well.
Heard there's still old military stuff still in some of the Carlsen Field tunnels from the guy who owns the scrapyard.

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Postby nos_specialist » April 16th, 2017, 6:51 am

Wats the latest with this? Pics.. proof.. restored army vehicle in a thread somewhere?

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Postby Dave » April 16th, 2017, 8:56 am

carmelo wrote:ministry of works just demolished the site of an old ww2 airstrip located behind the old colonial womens prison in mt hope.... the hangars were used are a vehicle repair depot ... but before that it was an american airstrip used to reconn aircraft.... then it was repurposed by the govt after the americans left for light airplanes used for cane crop dusting

Would this be the old structure that can now be seen where hdc are erecting some housing blocks?

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Postby rspann » April 16th, 2017, 1:43 pm

It's on the EMR, next to CPI. opposite American Stores.

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Postby Dave » April 16th, 2017, 2:16 pm

Yes same place. I live almost next door and only until they removed that ministry building did I realise that old structure is there. Would love to go on the site

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Postby GixxerMan » April 17th, 2017, 2:30 pm

shaha87 wrote:
carmelo wrote:http://flightspiritmagazine.weebly.com/trinidad-bases.html this site has some pics of waller AFB and carlsen AFB


There's a scrapyard on the concrete part of the base in Carlsen Field atm, there's quite a network of underground tunnels as well.
Heard there's still old military stuff still in some of the Carlsen Field tunnels from the guy who owns the scrapyard.

He's a flicking liar!!!......

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